Do you think the opposition parties will succesfully form a coalition government?


Tyler
#1
First of all, I'm liking this new layout on CanadianContent!

Now, there has been a lot of talking of forming a coalition government. What are your thoughts? Are they going to succeed? How much support would they need, and receive from the Blocs? Do you think Stephan Dion will actually end up being Prime Minister afterall? (I, personally, can't picture it.)

- Tyler

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taxslave
Free Thinker
#2
Somehow I do not see the Libs and the Dippers hanging together for very long. Even though Taliban Jack wants to be PM so bad he has wet dreams thinking about getting control of the public cheque book. There is also the rather significant issue of letting the party that wants to destroy Canada share power. That alone will cause a revolt in the west. They also do NOT have a mandate from the people to form a government and whoever forces another election will face the wrath of voters. Perhaps if the Libs brought back Martin it could work ut currently they are a rudderless ship whose captan is already in the lifeboat.
 
Ron in Regina
Free Thinker
#3
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

Somehow I do not see the Libs and the Dippers hanging together for very long. Even though Taliban Jack wants to be PM so bad he has wet dreams thinking about getting control of the public cheque book. There is also the rather significant issue of letting the party that wants to destroy Canada share power. That alone will cause a revolt in the west. They also do NOT have a mandate from the people to form a government and whoever forces another election will face the wrath of voters. Perhaps if the Libs brought back Martin it could work ut currently they are a rudderless ship whose captan is already in the lifeboat.


If today, as just the beginning, is any indication, you're right on the money.
 
Socrates the Greek
#4
Flaherty sounded unusually subdued. While his future was not discussed, questions about his role as finance minister can be expected now that the economic strategy has blown up in the government's face
 
Socrates the Greek
#5
 
scratch
#6
It would be nice to see him go, after all he is a spoke in the wheel of PO & Co.
 
Socrates the Greek
#7
Quote: Originally Posted by Socrates the Greek View Post

Agreement in principle, with a huge stimulus package on the way.......
Duceppe would be a fool to make noise and he is not..............


 
scratch
#8
He has no reason .....yet.
 
Risus
#9
Quote: Originally Posted by Socrates the Greek View Post

The three Scrooges... with nothing to offer. Just undemocratic power grabbing dreams... Nothing will come of it.
 
Praxius
Free Thinker
#10
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

Somehow I do not see the Libs and the Dippers hanging together for very long. Even though Taliban Jack wants to be PM so bad he has wet dreams thinking about getting control of the public cheque book. There is also the rather significant issue of letting the party that wants to destroy Canada share power. That alone will cause a revolt in the west. They also do NOT have a mandate from the people to form a government and whoever forces another election will face the wrath of voters. Perhaps if the Libs brought back Martin it could work ut currently they are a rudderless ship whose captan is already in the lifeboat.

Well looks like you might have a revolt either way, cuz I sure as hell am sick and tired of this current crap going on with Western lovy dovy BS and shoving all the money into the oil sands while the rest of the country dries up and everybody heads off to work in the oil sands for a living and die young.... once one starts, you can sure as expect the other to start, and no matter what, you will have a divided nation which will no longer be called Canada.... because nobody will trust anybody anymore and have their own interests at play, the economy will be gone and we will all die.

Horay!!!

It's either that or we continue to see the government play out as they should..... take your pick, cuz I've already prepared for the worst a couple years back. I might be crazy, but I ain't dumb..... this is only going to go one of three ways..... mmm..... maybe four.... the majority of the options are not good.
 
Praxius
Free Thinker
#11
Quote: Originally Posted by Risus View Post

The three Scrooges... with nothing to offer. Just undemocratic power grabbing dreams... Nothing will come of it.

Yeah ya got anything to back that up with or are you just trying to make a funny? Tell me... in fact list me off all the great things Harper has done so far since he's been Prime Minister.

I would have been the first to jump on the Military spending which was a good thing..... too bad half the crap we're fighting with is still half ass for our troops and they have very little support for PTSD... need I go on?
 
Socrates the Greek
#12
Quote: Originally Posted by scratch View Post

He has no reason .....yet.

Good evening scratch, this is better than hockey, front seat watching it happen before our eyes great entertainment I must say, enjoy this wonderful movie,
lets call it THE INDISPENSABLES Staring Steven Harper and the gang........
 
Risus
#13
Quote: Originally Posted by Praxius View Post

Yeah ya got anything to back that up with or are you just trying to make a funny? Tell me... in fact list me off all the great things Harper has done so far since he's been Prime Minister.

I would have been the first to jump on the Military spending which was a good thing..... too bad half the crap we're fighting with is still half ass for our troops and they have very little support for PTSD... need I go on?

LOL, the three stooges had no answer when asked what they would be doing...
 
Risus
#14
Quote: Originally Posted by Socrates the Greek View Post

Good evening scratch, this is better than hockey, front seat watching it happen before our eyes great entertainment I must say, enjoy this wonderful movie,
lets call it THE INDISPENSABLES Staring Steven Harper and the gang........

Soc, maybe you can joke about it, but the future of the Canada is no joke, and that is what the 3 stooges will turn it into. A laughing stock to the world, and a three ring circus.
 
Socrates the Greek
#15
Quote: Originally Posted by Risus View Post

LOL, the three stooges had no answer when asked what they would be doing...

What are you talking about Risus, Harper during the election would not clearly lay out his platform, while after the election he started looking to implement financial strategies that were introduced by the Liberals during the election.....
Harper is on the way out and they are already making appointments on the movers, from Sussex .
Today there was an extraordinary scene on Parliament Hill late this afternoon, Dion and Layton signed a formal deal to work together through to June, 2011.
 
Socrates the Greek
#16
Quote: Originally Posted by Risus View Post

The three Scrooges... with nothing to offer. Just undemocratic power grabbing dreams... Nothing will come of it.

Risus pal in a free democracy 3 verses 1 is a distinct democratic majority, anything else is Alice and wander land, or if you will in self serving terms denial or lala land.
Harper is the odd man out and that is the way politics work.........
We are all friends here.

 
Risus
#17
Quote: Originally Posted by Socrates the Greek View Post

They look like 3 pigs at the trough... Oh thats what they are!
 
Socrates the Greek
#18
Many Conservatives had been gleeful about the "poison pill" item in the update: the plan to slash $30 million in taxpayer subsidies for political parties. But as the political fallout takes hold, Harper's move is widely seen as a terrible political miscalculation.
A Conservative government source said yesterday the idea was Harper's.
 
Socrates the Greek
#19
Quote: Originally Posted by Risus View Post

They look like 3 pigs at the trough... Oh thats what they are!

A Conservative government source said yesterday the idea was Harper's.



Risus be a good sport, to be fair explains that you are not selfish, if you are not selfish you make an effort to work with others, if you want to talk about pigs on the trough was what happened to Germany, back in the Mulroney days when the German arms dealer was planted by the Conservative party of Germany to set up industry in Canada, the German Conservatives then had bought the Liberals in Germany in order so there is a one party system, heavy political manipulation to create as a country a political party so wealthy to be able to buy the opposition and thus insure a majority.......Monopoly Governments suck, once they are in they are like mold, you breath they appear....... and that Risus is why the Cons as a political force they suck, always have and always will.....
 
mit
Free Thinker
#20
Something I am curious about but the political TV pundits have missed is the recording of the NDP caucus meeting that the Harper government had it's hands on prior to the fiscal update. Now if Harper knew these talks were going on is he
A: So infatuated with himself that he proceeded with his fiscal update thinking his government could not fail
B: Made a tactical move by not adding an economic plan and adding 3 items that he knew would inflame the opposition and force another election on Canadians thereby giving him his majority and being able to blame the opposition - in particular the Liberals for the mess.

I think Harper did this on purpose - I can not see any logical reason for his fiscal update - I could see in Mr Flatulence's eyes that even he did not believe in the update but was following orders - You will note that Harper has Baird and Clements out as spokespersons now - gleefully expousing the Conservative plan and tearing down the opposition coalition. I think Harper is playing with Canadians minds not acting as a Prime Minister.
 
mit
Free Thinker
#21
Where is the ill wind from Oshawa - Mr Flaherty? Do not hear him on the radio/TV defending his fiscal update!
 
Praxius
Free Thinker
#22
Quote: Originally Posted by Risus View Post

Soc, maybe you can joke about it, but the future of the Canada is no joke, and that is what the 3 stooges will turn it into. A laughing stock to the world, and a three ring circus.

Oh give me a break, our country already is a laughing stock to the world and what do you call the circus we've had for the last..... how many years now?

Harper hasn't done anything, he hasn't planned on doing anything productive, he didn't do anything during the election except bitch and pit the other guys as the bad guys, all the while still doing nothing.... then we get right back into it and he creates this situation when there were clearly many more obvious solutions to the problem other then trying to attack the other parties..... oh yeah, and not to mention that he planned on doing nothing for the thousands of people who are out of work and just decided to let them go homeless.

Cuz that's Harpers plan.... let him stay in power and we're all fuct because he doesn't know what he's doing and he really doesn't have a plan.

And if you think this switch in government will make us into a joke, then it sure as hell can't be anymore worse then the farce of a government we've been dealing with for years now.
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
#23
Quote: Originally Posted by Tyler View Post

First of all, I'm liking this new layout on CanadianContent!

Now, there has been a lot of talking of forming a coalition government. What are your thoughts? Are they going to succeed? How much support would they need, and receive from the Blocs? Do you think Stephan Dion will actually end up being Prime Minister afterall? (I, personally, can't picture it.)

- Tyler

Moderator's Edit: Link in signature removed.

I personally don't like it but that's a moot point as the political pundits seem to think it will work- I'm guessing it won't as I don't think a majority of the electorate are happy with a coalition which includes a party trying to break up the country.
 
scratch
#24
In my personal opinion the Bloc is not trying to break up the country. Duceppe is keeping an eye on the interests of his province and besides that he is favourably viewed across the country.

rgs
scratch
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
#25
Quote: Originally Posted by scratch View Post

In my personal opinion the Bloc is not trying to break up the country. Duceppe is keeping an eye on the interests of his province and besides that he is favourably viewed across the country.

rgs
scratch

You make a good point, Scratch- I think Duceppe is 3 times the man that both Layton and Dion are and probably has some good principles plus he's smart BUT his sentiments are with an independent Quebec.
 
Praxius
Free Thinker
#26
Quote: Originally Posted by Risus View Post

LOL, the three stooges had no answer when asked what they would be doing...

Here's your answer: More then what Harper ever bothered to do......

Quote:

Layton said the accord's proposed multibillion-dollar stimulus package for the troubled economy, which includes support for the auto and forestry sectors, is "prompt, prudent, competent and, most important, effective."

Which is a lot more then what Haper has planned to do.
 
Colpy
Conservative
#27
Quote: Originally Posted by scratch View Post

In my personal opinion the Bloc is not trying to break up the country. Duceppe is keeping an eye on the interests of his province and besides that he is favourably viewed across the country.

rgs
scratch

Scratch...Please.....

denial is not appropriate here.....the reason d'etre of the BQ is to take Quebec out of Canada. It has always been so........if it were not so, Duceppe would be seeking cabinet positions for his MPs, as his faction significantly outnumbers the NDP......but the BQ does not, because it will not participate in national gov't because it wants the country as it is to cease to exist.

Read up on the BQ, please.

You are engaged in denial.

These guys are the political enemies of patriotic Canadians. To include them in gov't is completely outrageous.
 
Praxius
Free Thinker
#28
Quote: Originally Posted by scratch View Post

In my personal opinion the Bloc is not trying to break up the country. Duceppe is keeping an eye on the interests of his province and besides that he is favourably viewed across the country.

rgs
scratch

I don't have many issues with Duceppe.... sure he may want Quebec to seperate and be their own country, but that's nomore different then any of the others in the past who ran the Bloc. The one thing that makes him different from the others before him, is he hasn't been harping all over hell and creation on becoming their own country like the last Bloc leaders of the past..... sure he still has Quebec's interests at play, but who gives a hell?

At least he's representing someone and doing his job unlike the other idiots in the Conservative party. He wants what's best for Quebec? I can respect that. Will Quebec seperate? Who knows and who cares? If this is a true democracy, then they should have every right to do so.

The NDP are socialist? OMFG Uber No!? Say it ain't so!! Still beats capitalistic greedy pigs who don't do their job.

Dion doesn't have a clue? He's a poor leader of the Liberals? Well good thing Layton and Duceppe (The two who actually did the best in the debates in the last election) are there to keep him in check.

three heads are better then one.
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scratch
#29
Can't argue that Prax.
 
Praxius
Free Thinker
#30
Quote: Originally Posted by Colpy View Post

Scratch...Please.....

denial is not appropriate here.....

Yeah tell that to Harper.

Quote:

the reason d'etre of the BQ is to take Quebec out of Canada. It has always been so........if it were not so, Duceppe would be seeking cabinet positions for his MPs, as his faction significantly outnumbers the NDP......but the BQ does not, because it will not participate in national gov't because it wants the country as it is to cease to exist.

Read up on the BQ, please.

You are engaged in denial.

These guys are the political enemies of patriotic Canadians. To include them in gov't is completely outrageous.

Who are you to sit there and tell us what it is to be a patriotic Canadian? Being Patriotic doesn't mean you force an entire population to stay under your rule if/when they don't want to be, just so you can say you're a part of a unified nation..... that's not patriotic, that's living a joke and a lie through oppression..... all because of selfish desires of what will work best for you, rather then what is best for those in question.

And yes, we're all in question in regards to that type of situation (Quebec Seperating) but nothing last forever and things will either change and adapt or suffer and die..... much like what our nation is doing now.

I imagine so long as Duceppe keeps making sure Quebec is represented and gets treated decently, nobody's going to really care about seperation at this time.

Let Harper stay in power and continue to play this joke of a government as he wishes, and you can very well expect them to want to seperate regardless..... so it really doesn't matter anymore now does it? Hell, I'd want to seperate too if I had to continue to face this farce.