Brits happy to ditch civil liberties


mrmom2
#1
Note from RNU Donna: At the 1991 Bilderberger Conference in Evians, France, Henry Kissinger reportedly said, "Today, America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead for deliverance from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government." In the article below, The Register says the Brits are ready to do just that.

Brits happy to ditch civil liberties

By Lucy Sherriff

Three out of four Brits would happily hand over their civil liberties in exchange for better security against terrorist attacks, according figures from pollsters ICM.

It is interesting to note that this is the same general public that rails against any attempts to make them drive more slowly, or with more care. This is in spite of the fact that in 2004, 671 pedestrians were killed in traffic accidents, and a further 2,550 people died in other road accidents.

The ICM/Guardian-backed survey found that 73 per cent of Brits overall support a trade-off between liberty and security. Tory voters are even keener than average to do so, with 79 per cent of respond ants backing the idea. Labour voters and Lib Dems came in at 72 per cent and 70 per cent in favour, respectively.

Further, 62 per cent of respondents were in favour of deporting foreign radical Islamists, even if that deportation was to a country that used torture. Only 19 per cent directly opposed this idea.

Similarly only 19 per cent opposed calls for terror suspects to be held for three months without charge, with 62 per cent welcoming the proposal. Currently, the upper limit is 14 days.

However, the poll also revealed that a sizeable minority was still in favour of having an independent judiciary.

Although 52 per cent of those polled said judges should not be able to rule against government measures, 40 per cent said they agreed that judges should "protect our civil liberty and continue to overturn anti-terrorist measures if they feel it is right to do so".

A spokesman for Liberty told The Guardian that the results of the poll were a cause for concern, but cautioned against knee jerk legislation.

He added that people would realise that defending our basic values would be a better way to protect our society, rather than passing "counterproductive" and "superficially attractive" security measures.

What is your take on this Henry
 
jimmoyer
#2
Liberty and Security are incestuous cousins.

Both need each other.

To exist.

Without the other, neither survives.

But most people who view this incestuous relationship are very wary.

And every country at one time or another has been on this seesaw, this balancing act.

It is a necessity to consider the value of both.

It would be childish to wish you did not have to make such a choice.

We can only wish, but we still have to make decisions.
 
missile
Conservative
#3
There was a Canadian Press Poll earlier this week that stated we would be willing to give up many of our liberties for security's sake;for ex. more video surveilance. I'm in agreement with ideas like those.
 
mrmom2
#4
I'm not about to let the powers that be stuff a chip in my arm or a camera on my house FECK them my relatives did not die in the first and second world wars to let me stand back and let these feckers take my rights and my kids rights away .You let them they will never stop they will keep taking our politicians have proven that over and over GIVING UP YOUR RIGHTS WILL NOT MAKE YOU ANY SAFER
 
jjw1965
#5
Quote:

I'm not about to let the powers that be stuff a chip in my arm or a camera on my house FECK them my relatives did not die in the first and second world wars to let me stand back and let these feckers take my rights and my kids rights away .You let them they will never stop they will keep taking our politicians have proven that over and over GIVING UP YOUR RIGHTS WILL NOT MAKE YOU ANY SAFER


Giving up liberty only brings tyranny and not security!
 

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