Tesla to cut thousands of jobs as Elon Musk warns the ‘road ahead is very difficult’


Cannuck
#961
https://www.thehindu.com/news/nation...cle8009482.ece

https://auto.howstuffworks.com/car-d...-car-fires.htm

https://abcnews.go.com/US/mysterious...ry?id=60843215

https://www.capegazette.com/article/...es-home/176714

https://www.wsaw.com/content/news/No...505286532.html

https://www.wcnc.com/article/news/ca.../275-546780808
Last edited by Cannuck; Nov 9th, 2019 at 01:39 PM..
 
petros
+2
#962
Hehehehe

You're upset.

*hugs*
 
Jinentonix
+3
#963
Quote: Originally Posted by Cannuck View Post

https://www.thehindu.com/news/nation...cle8009482.ece

https://auto.howstuffworks.com/car-d...-car-fires.htm

https://abcnews.go.com/US/mysterious...ry?id=60843215

https://www.capegazette.com/article/...es-home/176714

https://www.wsaw.com/content/news/No...505286532.html

https://www.wcnc.com/article/news/ca.../275-546780808

Seems Tesla and BMW have a lot in common. And you do realize that most fires in ICE powered vehicles that aren't relatively new are a result of either lack of maintenance or lousy work. Christ, Tesla has had 6 recalls (as of 2018 )just for their 'S' model and that model has only been in production since 2012-13. 6 recalls, 7 years. What a piece of shit.
 
Hoid
#964
lol Tesla is the company that ended planned obsolesence
 
taxslave
+3
#965
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

lol Tesla is the company that ended planned obsolesence

ROFLMFAO. They have batteries that are way too expensive to replace when they expire. Worth more than the value of the car. If that isn't planned obsolescence I don't know what is.
 
MHz
#966
Quote: Originally Posted by Durry View Post

What about your toy train set, is it electric as well?

Sterno, steam powered. Whoo, whoo hoot, tweet. Chug-a-lug.

Is a NG Hydrate fuel going to be available anytime this century.
 
Hoid
#967
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

ROFLMFAO. They have batteries that are way too expensive to replace when they expire. Worth more than the value of the car. If that isn't planned obsolescence I don't know what is.

As usual your facts are totally wrong, and only prove your intellectual sloth.
 
pgs
+2
#968
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

As usual your facts are totally wrong, and only prove your intellectual sloth.

Where is he wrong ?
 
taxslave
+3
#969
Quote: Originally Posted by pgs View Post

Where is he wrong ?

Doesn't fit with his dogma.
 
taxslave
+4
#970
Besides what would a mechanic that fights fires as a hobby know about cars?
 
Hoid
#971
lets see: Tesla batteries are made to go 300-500K miles

They are warrantied up to 120k miles -/ 8 years nobody even knows how long they will last

In the near future they will be built to go a million miles.

Model 3 battery replacement costs are $5-7000 thousand dollars - which is far less than an engine replacement on any comparable ice vehicle.

But continue lying about ev costs.

You provide me with a much needed laugh every now and then
 
Twin_Moose
+2
#972
Have you bought one to support the company yet?
 
Hoid
#973
one of your lies?

no

nobody buys any of your juvenile bullshit
 
captain morgan
+2
#974
Oops
 
captain morgan
+3
#975
Model S.... Probably will still go half a million klicks


 
Hoid
#976
Model S taxi with high mileage

https://electrek.co/2018/07/17/tesla...miles-3-years/

Tesloop has incurred a combined maintenance cost of roughly $19,000 or about $0.05/mile. This cost breaks down to $6,700 for general vehicle repairs and $12,200 for regularly scheduled maintenance. The Model S’ full service record is available here. The record includes comparable estimated costs of running the service with a Lincoln Town Car instead of a Model S or Mercedes GLS class instead of a Model X. Tesloop estimates that a Lincoln Town Car or Mercedes GLS class’ combined maintenance cost to be around $88,500 ($0.22/mile) and $98,900 ($0.25/mile) respectively over 400,000 miles.
 
Twin_Moose
+1
#977
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morgan View Post

Oops

Haha typical all talk no action from Hoid and his ilk
 
captain morgan
+3
#978
No doubt, but I do especially love the references to estimated costs and projected mileage, etc, etc


Seeing how they have no real time data, they can estimate and project all they want... Much like the company, those projections/estimations are entirely worthless
 
Hoid
#979
https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2...evolution.html

Tesla’s Model 3 Success Hits BMW the Hardest

Two years after the Model 3’s rocky debut, drivers like Woodruff have startled automakers with a sudden rush toward electric vehicles. In the U.S., Tesla’s sedan has taken over the luxury class, outselling the category-defining BMW 3 Series and Mercedes Benz C-Class combined. And it’s doing so at a higher price: The average Model 3 goes for around $50,000, which is more than any of the top 10 vehicles that buyers traded in from other brands, according to responses to Bloomberg’s Model 3 owners survey. No other sedan in America is generating more revenue.
 
Hoid
#980
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffmcm.../#60e0cf5d36e3

In 10 years there will be enough EVs on the road in America to power the grid 10 times over.

So rather than worrying about EV's overwhelming the grid the world comes to understand that EV's will enable the grid
 
pgs
+3
#981
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2...evolution.html

Tesla’s Model 3 Success Hits BMW the Hardest

Two years after the Model 3’s rocky debut, drivers like Woodruff have startled automakers with a sudden rush toward electric vehicles. In the U.S., Tesla’s sedan has taken over the luxury class, outselling the category-defining BMW 3 Series and Mercedes Benz C-Class combined. And it’s doing so at a higher price: The average Model 3 goes for around $50,000, which is more than any of the top 10 vehicles that buyers traded in from other brands, according to responses to Bloomberg’s Model 3 owners survey. No other sedan in America is generating more revenue.

Yet you still haven’t ordered one , go figure .
 
taxslave
+2
#982
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

lets see: Tesla batteries are made to go 300-500K miles
They are warrantied up to 120k miles -/ 8 years nobody even knows how long they will last
In the near future they will be built to go a million miles.
Model 3 battery replacement costs are $5-7000 thousand dollars - which is far less than an engine replacement on any comparable ice vehicle.
But continue lying about ev costs.
You provide me with a much needed laugh every now and then

So still no clue what you babble on about.
 
taxslave
+2
#983
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffmcm.../#60e0cf5d36e3
In 10 years there will be enough EVs on the road in America to power the grid 10 times over.
So rather than worrying about EV's overwhelming the grid the world comes to understand that EV's will enable the grid

Sure. As long as they are plugged into diesel generators to charge the batteries first.
 
Hoid
+1
#984
because only diesel generators can charge ev batteries.

little known white natty fact
 
Hoid
#985
https://electrek.co/2019/11/13/la-ad...ce-to-plug-in/

Los Angles installing hundreds of ev chargers in street lights.

Well who would ever have guessed that you could use the existing electric grid to deliver electricity

what a world we live in
 
Blackleaf
#986
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

But but but...
Tesla Inc. will cut its full-time employee headcount by 7 per cent, with Chief Executive Officer
Elon Musk saying "the road ahead is very difficult to make electric cars affordable for the mass market."
The shares fell 7.6 per cent in pre-market trading after the Palo Alto, California-based company said it managed to eke out a profit in the fourth quarter — though a narrower one than the hard-won third-quarter profit it reported in October, according to a blog post on Friday.
Tesla is under pressure to limit spending as it emerges from what Musk called the “most challenging” year in its history.
BY BLOOMBERG NEWS
ORIGINALLY PUBLISHED: JAN 18, 2019
https://business.financialpost.com/t...res-tumble/amp

It's what happens when you aren't in the EU, I'm afraid.
 
petros
+1
#987
Green energy is killing jobs in Germany.

Germany’s economy may have narrowly avoided a recession, but the pressure on the country’s industry shows no sign of abating.


Daimler AG said this week it will shed 10% of management positions at its Mercedes unit, lifting the tally of job cuts announced this year across Germany’s manufacturing sector to more than 80,000, according to Bloomberg calculations.

Companies from Volkswagen AG to Siemens AG are letting go workers as Germany’s powerful automotive industry is struggling with a shift toward electrification and self-driving cars, and makers of machinery and robots are hit by slower exports and trade disputes.

Short-term work is at its highest in more than 3 years
While the country’s unemployment rate, at 5%, remains close to its historic low, the number of freelancers is rising and short-term work has been creeping up since last year. Automotive companies in particular have also started to shed thousands of jobs. Daimler alone pledged to cut a total of at least 1.4 billion euros ($1.5 billion) in personnel expenses -- potentially putting many more jobs at risk.


The full effect of the cuts may not be felt immediately. German labor laws and powerful unions make it difficult to fire workers, and many large companies have agreements banning forced dismissals, meaning job-cut programs have voluntary elements and sometimes run for years.

Still, the deteriorating prospects for employment could turn into a headache for the German government, which has been considering following countries from China to the U.K. in beefing up investments to stimulate its economy.

Here is a rundown of the main job cuts announced since the beginning of the year by German industrial companies. The tally includes foreign corporations that have announced cuts affecting staff in Europe’s biggest economy. It excludes the financial industry, cuts that remain unconfirmed, and programs where companies have not yet specified how many jobs will go.

COMPANYTOTALWHEREDATE ANNOUNCEDCOMMENT
Airbus1,100GermanyApril 11At Premium Aerotec in Augsburg
BASF6,000GlobalJune 27Half of those in Germany
Bilfinger200GermanyNov. 13Admin and IT jobs
Bosch2,840GermanyOct 22At three sites
Brose2,000GermanyOct 17Bamberg, Hallstadt, Coburg, Wurzburg
Continental20,000GlobalSept 257,000 in Germany
Daimler1,100GlobalNov. 14Managerial positions
Enercon3,000GermanyNov. 8Jobs to go at Enercon and its suppliers
Diehl Aviation240GermanyOct. 7
Duerr350GermanyNov. 6Closure of production in Hemmoor at Homag
Ford5,000GermanyJune 27Part of 12,000 cuts across Europe
GEA Group800GlobalSept 26By the end of 2020
Goodyear1,050GermanyMar 19Fulda, Hanau factories
Krones400Mostly GermanyOct. 30Between 300 and 500
Kuka350GermanyMarch 28Augsburg headquarters
Leoni2,000GlobalMarch 18500 in high-wage countries
Mann+Hummel1,200GlobalApril 11300 in Germany
Michelin858GermanySept 25French tire maker closes German site
Miele1,720GloballyOct. 30890 in Germany
Philip Morris950GermanyMay 28Ends cigarettes production in Berlin
Sanofi466France, GermanyJune 19French drugmaker cuts R&D jobs
Schaeffler2,200Mostly GermanyMar 6, Oct 10
Schuler500GermanyJuly 29Production jobs
Siemens13,100GlobalMay 8, June 182,700 at its power and gas unit, 4,900 in digital industries, 3,000 at smart infrastructure, 2,500 corporate
Stabilo-Schwan200GermanyJuly 17Jobs moved to Czech Republic, U.S.
Stahl Holding Saar1,500GermanySept. 27Jobs in Saar region
Thyssenkrupp6,000Germany, elsewhereMay 104,000 in Germany
Vestas500GermanySept 27Danish wind turbine maker shrinks German plant
Voith Turbo230GermanyOct 14Closing two plants
Vossloh200April 23Cuts 5% of staff
Volkswagen4,000GermanyJune 5VW brand will cut as many as 4,000 general and administrative jobs through 2023
WMF400July 10
 
petros
+2
#988
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

https://electrek.co/2019/11/13/la-ad...ce-to-plug-in/
Los Angles installing hundreds of ev chargers in street lights.
Well who would ever have guessed that you could use the existing electric grid to deliver electricity
what a world we live in

Only in old neighbourhoods. New streetlights are LED and don't need the current the old HIDs required.

It only took 60 years to improve the lux output of an LED.

The grid still needs expensive upgrades to handle EVs and all the damn electric heat, AC,cooking and gadgets hitting the market.

Do you know the cheapest way for power companies to meet the needs of the future of an antiquated grid?

Create a boogieman and get you to pay for solar panels on your roof. They will gladly pay you 1/3 of the market value per kWh of extra energy you think you will sell to offset the costs.

Guess what? You'll pay income tax and carbon tax on what you produce as well and will never recover your investment.

Do you really think you won't be paying a buck a kilowatt or more to charge an EV?
Last edited by petros; 4 weeks ago at 06:47 AM..
 
Danbones
+1
#989
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

https://electrek.co/2019/11/13/la-ad...ce-to-plug-in/
Los Angles installing hundreds of ev chargers in street lights.
Well who would ever have guessed that you could use the existing electric grid to deliver electricity
what a world we live in

To bad the rest of the state is burning down supplying the current.

Also, you'd figure they would also put toilet paper rollers on those lamp posts.
 
Curious Cdn
+1 / -1
#990
I sure see one hell of a lot of Teslas on my daily commute. Tesla deniers are just like climate change deniers .... Oh, wait! They're the same people!