Are Mormons Christians?


Liberalman
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Are Mormons Christians?

http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2011/10/professions-faith

Mitt Romney is a Mormon and he is running for the Republican Party’s choice for president of USA.

There was a statement made by other Republicans that Mormons are not Christians they are more of an occult.

Are Mormons Christians or not?

What do you think?

 
CDNBear
+2
#2
They're not.

It's a cult, created by a fraud. Believed by nutters and morons.
 
CDNBear
#3
Are you still drunk?
 
Liberalman
#4
Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBear View Post

Are you still drunk?

An article in The Economist
 
CDNBear
#5
An OP you already posted...

http://forums.canadiancontent.net/sp...ml#post1497362
 
SLM
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#6
Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBear View Post

An OP you already posted...

http://forums.canadiancontent.net/sp...ml#post1497362

At least it's not another anti-US thread.
 
CDNBear
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#7
Quote: Originally Posted by SLM View Post

At least it's not another anti-US thread.

We have those here?
 
SLM
#8
Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBear View Post

We have those here?

So I've heard anyway. Apparently some guy started a thread about just how many we have too.

You should check it out.
 
CDNBear
#9
Quote: Originally Posted by SLM View Post

So I've heard anyway. Apparently some guy started a thread about just how many we have too.

You should check it out.

Gotta link?
 
SLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBear View Post

Gotta link?

Not handy. It'll be the one all the US bashers are posting in.
 
WLDB
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Quote: Originally Posted by Liberalman View Post

Are Mormons Christians?

http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2011/10/professions-faith

Mitt Romney is a Mormon and he is running for the Republican Party’s choice for president of USA.

There was a statement made by other Republicans that Mormons are not Christians they are more of an occult.

Are Mormons Christians or not?

What do you think?

I'm indifferent. Mormonism is no more crazy than Christianity when you look at the details of what they believe.
 
CDNBear
#12
Quote: Originally Posted by WLDB View Post

I'm indifferent. Mormonism is no more crazy than Christianity when you look at the details of what they believe.

Actually, I can understand how the populace could be swayed with the mythology in the Bible, in the era it was first presented to said populace.

If one were to examine the birth of the Mormon Church, the era it was created in, you would think that the people would have been smarter, and less likely to be swayed with such obviously dubious nuttery.

And lets not even get started on the moronic CoS and the nutters that fell for that.
 
WLDB
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Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBear View Post

Actually, I can understand how the populace could be swayed with the mythology in the Bible, in the era it was first presented to said populace.

If one were to examine the birth of the Mormon Church, the era it was created in, you would think that the people would have been smarter, and less likely to be swayed with such obviously dubious nuttery.

And lets not even get started on the moronic CoS and the nutters that fell for that.

Sure, for 2000 years ago I can also understand that. But people are still buying it today. Not nearly as many but some do. As for when Joseph Smith was doing his thing, well it was still the wild west of the 19th century. His followers weren't exactly well educated or anything. There are always people willing to believe something crazy in any time period regardless of evidence.
 
SLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBear View Post

If one were to examine the birth of the Mormon Church, the era it was created in, you would think that the people would have been smarter, and less likely to be swayed with such obviously dubious nuttery.

You would think so, but then in walks L.Ron Hubbard in what, 50s or 60s?

To say nothing of the David Koresh's and Jim Jones' of the world too.
 
CDNBear
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Quote: Originally Posted by WLDB View Post

Sure, for 2000 years ago I can also understand that. But people are still buying it today. Not nearly as many but some do.

Once ingrained, it's hard to shake. New converts puzzle me, but something can be said for desperation. Indoctrination of children, what child would think mom and dad would lead them astray?
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As for when Joseph Smith was doing his thing, well it was still the wild west of the 19th century. His followers weren't exactly well educated or anything.

Paper education is one thing, but these people were ground breakers. Survivors that lived by their wits. How they got scammed, I'll never figure out.

Quote:

There are always people willing to believe something crazy in any time period regardless of evidence.

I concede.

Quote: Originally Posted by SLM View Post

You would think so, but then in walks L.Ron Hubbard in what, 50s or 60s?

Who said straight out "I'm going to create a religion".
 
SLM
#16
Quote: Originally Posted by WLDB View Post

Sure, for 2000 years ago I can also understand that. But people are still buying it today. Not nearly as many but some do. As for when Joseph Smith was doing his thing, well it was still the wild west of the 19th century. His followers weren't exactly well educated or anything. There are always people willing to believe something crazy in any time period regardless of evidence.

Believing in something bigger than yourself is one thing, but accepting this man made structure of a belief system verbatim and then denying it is a man made belief system is the part I can't wrap my head around.

Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBear View Post

Who said straight out "I'm going to create a religion".

That should have been the first clue.
 
WLDB
+1
#17
Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBear View Post

Once ingrained, it's hard to shake. New converts puzzle me, but something can be said for desperation. Indoctrination of children, what child would think mom and dad would lead them astray?

*raises hand*

Raised by die-hard Catholics. Called BS on it when I started reading the Bible alone. I was about 10 when I started having doubts then became an all out non-believer by 12. Didn't sit to well with the folks, but I don't care. They can have their fairy tales.
 
CDNBear
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Quote: Originally Posted by SLM View Post

Believing in something bigger than yourself is one thing, but accepting this man made structure of a belief system verbatim and then denying it is a man made belief system is the part I can't wrap my head around.

I'm still waiting for someone to show me where it says the Pope is Gods front man on earth.

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That should have been the first clue.

Some people don't recognize clues. These pages are filled with them.

Quote: Originally Posted by WLDB View Post

*raises hand*

Raised by die-hard Catholics. Called BS on it when I started reading the Bible alone. I was about 10 when I started having doubts then became an all out non-believer by 12. Didn't sit to well with the folks, but I don't care. They can have their fairy tales.

I was raised Catholic as well. I think it was the abuse, while being told about Jesus' mercy, that confused me, and made me seek my own path.
 
SLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBear View Post

I'm still waiting for someone to show me where it says the Pope is Gods front man on earth.

Good luck with that one.


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I was raised Catholic as well. I think it was the abuse, while being told about Jesus' mercy, that confused me, and made me seek my own path.

My mother was raised Catholic, but I was not. The only "formal" instruction I ever received as a child was briefly in Sunday school, some non-Catholic Christian church but I cannot remember which one. So my impression of Jesus, to this day, is of someone who surrounded himself with all those who were 'cast out' by society at large. The poor, the homeless, the diseased and disabled. Which is why I cannot reconcile any kind of hatred or rejection of anyone who is different then themselves with anyone calling themselves a Christian.
 
CDNBear
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Quote: Originally Posted by SLM View Post

My mother was raised Catholic, but I was not. The only "formal" instruction I ever received as a child was briefly in Sunday school, some non-Catholic Christian church but I cannot remember which one. So my impression of Jesus, to this day, is of someone who surrounded himself with all those who were 'cast out' by society at large. The poor, the homeless, the diseased and disabled. Which is why I cannot reconcile any kind of hatred or rejection of anyone who is different then themselves with anyone calling themselves a Christian.

That's the part I kept with me too.
 
wulfie68
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What is sad is that Romney's religious denomination is possibly a bar to his obtaining the nod from the Republicans. The US was founded and prides itself on the ideals of religious freedom and seperation of Church and State. That fundamentalists of any religion have taken such a large degree of control in the process is disheartening. I realize that people elect leaders based on social values as well as economic ones, but if someone espouses similar values, why should it matter what altar he bows before (or if he bows at all)?

Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBear View Post

I'm still waiting for someone to show me where it says the Pope is Gods front man on earth.

You might be waiting a long time as thats been a bone of contention among the various sects of Christianity for hundreds of years...
 
Goober
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Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBear View Post

Actually, I can understand how the populace could be swayed with the mythology in the Bible, in the era it was first presented to said populace.

If one were to examine the birth of the Mormon Church, the era it was created in, you would think that the people would have been smarter, and less likely to be swayed with such obviously dubious nuttery.

And lets not even get started on the moronic CoS and the nutters that fell for that.

Ah so - Remember the Kool Aid fellow - Mass suicide in South America - A US Cult.
 
karrie
+1
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Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBear View Post


Who said straight out "I'm going to create a religion".

My husband's said that before. He's just waiting for the kids to move out so he can open the Royale Church of Looo-oove. I can't possibly convey the tone in which its name gets said, as it requires a whiskey or ten, and a french background, to get it quite right. It's all planned out on cocktail napkins, and if instituted as he plans, would bring about many loud exultations in God's name.
 
Dexter Sinister
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Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBear View Post

I'm still waiting for someone to show me where it says the Pope is Gods front man on earth.

Well, you're in luck today ol' buddy. It's rooted in standard Roman Catholic dogma called the apostolic succession, a claim that all duly constituted bishops have had the Spirit instilled in them by men authorized to do so by performing the proper rituals, all the way back to Jesus' disciples. The Pope, as Bishop of Rome, traces his succession directly back to the church's founders, Paul and most particularly Peter, the first Bishop of Rome and the nominal rock on which the church is built, so he gets to be first among equals in the crowd of bishops.

Apostolic Succession | Catholic Answers
 
Goober
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Quote: Originally Posted by Dexter Sinister View Post

Well, you're in luck today ol' buddy. It's rooted in standard Roman Catholic dogma called the apostolic succession, a claim that all duly constituted bishops have had the Spirit instilled in them by men authorized to do so by performing the proper rituals, all the way back to Jesus' disciples. The Pope, as Bishop of Rome, traces his succession directly back to the church's founders, Paul and most particularly Peter, the first Bishop of Rome and the nominal rock on which the church is built, so he gets to be first among equals in the crowd of bishops.

Apostolic Succession | Catholic Answers

They decided to have the Spirit- Not God, nor Jesus who picked his disciples. So what they created is man made. And as such open to change.
 
Spade
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Quote: Originally Posted by Goober View Post

They decided to have the Spirit- Not God, nor Jesus who picked his disciples. So what they created is man made. And as such open to change.

All religions are human constructs, except perhaps Woden and Thor.
 
VanIsle
+1
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Quote: Originally Posted by Liberalman View Post

Are Mormons Christians?

http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2011/10/professions-faith

Mitt Romney is a Mormon and he is running for the Republican Party’s choice for president of USA.

There was a statement made by other Republicans that Mormons are not Christians they are more of an occult.

Are Mormons Christians or not?

What do you think?

Occult???? Do you mean cult??? The two are very different from each other.
 
Goober
#28
Quote: Originally Posted by Spade View Post

All religions are human constructs, except perhaps Woden and Thor.

Do you agree with my point or not.

Next the universe has such an order that I do believe in a Creator. To have such order did not happen by chance?????

Until Einsteins "E=MC2" could be proven to be in error. That will send all the Physicists back to the blackboard now won't it. Then oh my what will they think????????????

And what about Loki. He does run rampant does he not??

Loki - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
Spade
#29
I agree Mormonism is man made. But, so are all other religions.
 
taxslave
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Quote: Originally Posted by SLM View Post

Good luck with that one.




My mother was raised Catholic, but I was not. The only "formal" instruction I ever received as a child was briefly in Sunday school, some non-Catholic Christian church but I cannot remember which one. So my impression of Jesus, to this day, is of someone who surrounded himself with all those who were 'cast out' by society at large. The poor, the homeless, the diseased and disabled. Which is why I cannot reconcile any kind of hatred or rejection of anyone who is different then themselves with anyone calling themselves a Christian.

It was the part about having the one true god that got me. I asked for proof, which I didn't think was an unreasonable request but never got an answer.
Then there was one I read but can't remember who the nut was that said" GOd does not hear the prayers of a Jew". Now I confess to never having met god despite some good drugs but I'm fairly certain that Jews would not bother praying if they thought this was true.
I know that many native cultures have more than one god so how can some so called christian call them pagans or heathens?
 

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