Israel

DaSleeper
+1
#181
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/?s=ht...uardian.com%2F
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
+2
#182
UAE formally ends Israel boycott amid US-brokered deal

See what's Trump done now for full article
 
Serryah
Free Thinker
#183
Quote: Originally Posted by Twin_Moose View Post

UAE formally ends Israel boycott amid US-brokered deal

See what's Trump done now for full article


Late to the party, already brought this up.


Interesting that because the UAE was supposed to get F-35's out of this. Now it seems like that's a nogo?


https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/20/polit...jet/index.html


https://thehill.com/opinion/internat...ndanger-israel


Cause heaven forbid anyone else get more advanced than Israel (which isn't just opinion but fact).
 
Girth
+1
#184
Quote: Originally Posted by Serryah View Post

Cause heaven forbid anyone else get more advanced than Israel (which isn't just opinion but fact).


Yes, because it is so irrational for a nation that was born out of the horrors of the Holocaust, and constantly threatened by it's Arab neighbors to "finish the job Hitler started" and "push the Jews into the sea," would want to be the most powerful state in the region.

Damn those selfish Jews!
 
Walter
#185
Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeper View Post

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/?s=ht...uardian.com%2F

Media bias fact check is a prog outfit.
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
#186
Quote: Originally Posted by Serryah View Post

Late to the party, already brought this up.
Interesting that because the UAE was supposed to get F-35's out of this. Now it seems like that's a nogo?
https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/20/polit...jet/index.html
https://thehill.com/opinion/internat...ndanger-israel
Cause heaven forbid anyone else get more advanced than Israel (which isn't just opinion but fact).

Late to what party I was one of the first to post the development from the start this article was only a few hours old and it said it is now enacted and laid out the terms to how it effects each party.
 
Serryah
Free Thinker
#187
Quote: Originally Posted by Girth View Post

Yes, because it is so irrational for a nation that was born out of the horrors of the Holocaust, and constantly threatened by it's Arab neighbors to "finish the job Hitler started" and "push the Jews into the sea," would want to be the most powerful state in the region.

Damn those selfish Jews!


You, of course, missed my point entirely.


Not surprised.
 
Serryah
Free Thinker
#188
Quote: Originally Posted by Twin_Moose View Post

Late to what party I was one of the first to post the development from the start this article was only a few hours old and it said it is now enacted and laid out the terms to how it effects each party.


And yet it's already in contention because how dare someone other than Israel have up to date military equipment?

That's not peace. That's blackmail.
 
Girth
+1
#189
Quote: Originally Posted by Serryah View Post

And yet it's already in contention because how dare someone other than Israel have up to date military equipment?
That's not peace. That's blackmail.

It's called self-preservation.
 
Serryah
Free Thinker
#190
Quote: Originally Posted by Girth View Post

It's called self-preservation.


Oh my gods, really? Self-preservation???

The US selling F35's to the UAE shouldn't be any of Israel's business (capitalism is supposed to be a good thing to them, isn't it?) Yet it is a thing because the US is their money daddy and Israel is the Place the Right Wing Christians WANT to have their little End of the World Apocalypse happen so they gotta keep Israel happy so it happens.

That's not self-preservation, that's just effin' blackmail, plain and simple.
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
+1
#191
Quote: Originally Posted by Serryah View Post

And yet it's already in contention because how dare someone other than Israel have up to date military equipment?
That's not peace. That's blackmail.

You do know that if the US was to agree to sell arms that UAE would have to cancel Russian contracts and turn over any Russian military equipment they have right? Just ask Turkey which was denied F35 planes after purchasing Russian missiles.

First direct Israel-UAE flight lands in Abu Dhabi amid deal

Quote:

El Al spokesman Stanley Morais said the 737-900 is equipped with a missile-defence system, a standard feature on these types of planes and a requirement for this flight. After grounding its fleet due to the coronavirus, it is the airline’s first flight since July 1.

The plane was decorated with the the words for peace in Arabic, Hebrew and English above the pilot’s window. Journalists were handed special face masks decorated with the Israeli and Emirati flags. The seat protectors said “Making History” in all three languages, and Israeli folk music played in the background.

The plane's captain, Tal Becker, said he has not worked for several months and received a call out of the blue asking him to prepare for the flight.

The 45-year veteran, who is the senior captain in El Al’s 737 fleet, said he never dreamed of flying to Abu Dhabi, calling it a “very special feeling.”

The Israeli delegation will stay in the capital, Abu Dhabi, for one night before returning home on El Al flight LY972, a nod to Israel’s international calling code.

Private jets have earlier flown between the two nations as part of covert talks, and Abu Dhabi’s Etihad Airways flew cargo freighters to Israel before to deliver coronavirus aid to the Palestinians. But the high-profile flight Monday, eagerly promoted by U.S. officials, looks to place a solid stamp on the surprise Aug. 13 White House announcement of Israel and the UAE establishing ties.

Since then, telephone calls were connected, and the UAE’s ruler issued a decree formally ending the country’s decades-long boycott of Israel. Some Israeli firms have already signed deals with Emirati counterparts, but Monday’s visit is expected to usher in a slew of further business co-operation. The official repeal of the boycott looks to open the door to more joint ventures, such as in aviation, banking and finance.

The UAE has touted the deal as a tool to force Israel into halting its contentious plan to annex parts of the West Bank sought by the Palestinians for their future state. It also may help the Emirates acquire advanced U.S. weapons systems that have been previously unattainable, such as the F-35 fighter jet. Currently, Israel is the only country in the region with the stealth warplanes.

The Palestinians, however, have fiercely opposed the normalization as peeling away one of their few advantages in moribund peace talks with Israel. Palestinians have held public protests and burned the UAE flag in anger.

Palestinian Prime Minister Mohammad Shtayyeh said it was “very painful” to see the flight, which he said was a “clear violation of the Arab position on the Arab-Israeli conflict.”

"We had hoped to see an Emirati plane landing in a liberated Jerusalem,” he added.

Israelis eagerly anticipate the prospect of mutual embassies, expanding tourism to the Gulf and solidifying business opportunities with another country that shares its penchant for technology and innovation.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has touted the deal as validation of his vision that regional peace doesn’t have to go through Palestinian acquiescence and come at the cost of ceding land. But he has come under fire from supporters at home for seemingly giving up on dreams of annexation and tacitly agreeing to a questionable arms sale that could undermine Israel’s regional superiority. Netanyahu denies such a deal exists.

In a Facebook post, Netanyahu said Monday “is a historic day for the state of Israel that I have worked to achieve for decades."

For Trump, the accord delivers a key foreign policy victory as he faces a tough reelection campaign.

On Sunday, Kushner said “the stage is now set” for other Arab countries to follow the UAE. However, he gave no indication that any other deals are imminent, despite a swing through the region last week by U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo......More

 
Serryah
Free Thinker
+1
#192
Quote: Originally Posted by Twin_Moose View Post

You do know that if the US was to agree to sell arms that UAE would have to cancel Russian contracts and turn over any Russian military equipment they have right? Just ask Turkey which was denied F35 planes after purchasing Russian missiles.

First direct Israel-UAE flight lands in Abu Dhabi amid deal




It has nothing to do with Russian contracts but with Israeli power in the region. As in it has to be absolute.

Personally I don't think the US should be arming ANY nation in the Middle East, whether it's Israel, the UAE or especially Saudi (goes for Canada too). It creates a power structure that keeps the ME unstable.

But that's the point, because at this point in time, the Uber Religious Right Wing Christians WANT Israel to be dominant, so it can start Armageddon. That's why they push to protect Israel. It has nothing to do with Israel being able to protect itself, but to fulfill religious prophecy. Or at least, that's what they believe.

And not only should anyone sell arms in the ME (black market aside), I'd prefer everyone quit the entire region until there is a peace in the area. But that won't happen because Oil.
 
pgs
Free Thinker
+1
#193
Quote: Originally Posted by Serryah View Post

It has nothing to do with Russian contracts but with Israeli power in the region. As in it has to be absolute.

Personally I don't think the US should be arming ANY nation in the Middle East, whether it's Israel, the UAE or especially Saudi (goes for Canada too). It creates a power structure that keeps the ME unstable.

But that's the point, because at this point in time, the Uber Religious Right Wing Christians WANT Israel to be dominant, so it can start Armageddon. That's why they push to protect Israel. It has nothing to do with Israel being able to protect itself, but to fulfill religious prophecy. Or at least, that's what they believe.

And not only should anyone sell arms in the ME (black market aside), I'd prefer everyone quit the entire region until there is a peace in the area. But that won't happen because Oil.

No oil in Israel .
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
+2
#194
Unlimited access to Saudi airspace for commercial flights

Saudi Arabia says flights to, from UAE can fly over kingdom
 
Hoid
+1
#195
Quote: Originally Posted by Serryah View Post

It has nothing to do with Russian contracts but with Israeli power in the region. As in it has to be absolute.

Personally I don't think the US should be arming ANY nation in the Middle East, whether it's Israel, the UAE or especially Saudi (goes for Canada too). It creates a power structure that keeps the ME unstable.

But that's the point, because at this point in time, the Uber Religious Right Wing Christians WANT Israel to be dominant, so it can start Armageddon. That's why they push to protect Israel. It has nothing to do with Israel being able to protect itself, but to fulfill religious prophecy. Or at least, that's what they believe.

And not only should anyone sell arms in the ME (black market aside), I'd prefer everyone quit the entire region until there is a peace in the area. But that won't happen because Oil.

Canadian arms sales to Saudi Arabia are evil and need to stop.

We are being used to funnel American arms into the middle east and taking our cut of the profits.

While it was easy to understand how the Harper government could set it all up it is beyond all comprehension how the Trudeau government simply keeps it going.

Very disappointing for anyone who wants and expects ethical government.
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
+2
#196
But it is good for an Ontario company and it saves jobs just ask Trudie.
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
+2
#197
Israel, UAE to sign deal at White House next week
 
Ocean Breeze
Free Thinker
+2
#198
Trump announces that Bahrain will be latest Arab nation to establish diplomatic ties with Israel

https://www.washingtonpost.com/?utm_...location=alert
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
+1
#199
Next shoe to drop and link a deal with Israel?


Sudan rejects linking removal from U.S. terrorism list with Israel ties

Quote:

KHARTOUM (Reuters) - Sudan does not want to link its removal from a U.S. terrorism list that is hindering access to foreign funding for the country's economy with a normalisation of relations with Israel, Prime Minister Abdalla Hamdok said on Saturday......More

Iran's sphere of influence is shrinking fast thanks to the US sanctions.
 
Blackleaf
+3
#200
Israel is a great country, certainly the best in the Middle East.
 

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