Two dead in shooting at Oregon mall: Report


SLM
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Two dead in shooting at Oregon mall: Report
By Teresa Carson, Dan Whitcomb and Alex Dobuzinskis, Reuters

A gunman opened fire at an Oregon shopping mall outside Portland on Tuesday and several people were believed to have been shot, authorities said, while local media reported two had been killed.
The gunman remained at large at the Clackamas Town Center near the Portland suburb of Happy Valley, said Steve Campbell, spokesman for the city.
“There is an active shooter at the Clackamas Town Center,” Campbell said.
The Oregonian newspaper reported on its website that two people had been killed by a man using a semi-automatic rifle who may have also been wearing body armor. The paper said the shooting occurred near the mall’s food court.
“The scene outside as I was leaving was just chaos,” witness Isabel Valentine told the paper. “Police were everywhere, people were crying and screaming, and we still don’t know exactly why this all happened.”
Oregonian sports reporter John Canzano, who said he was at the mall when the shooting began, tweeted that “panicked people are running from the mall” and later urged his followers simply to “pray.”


Police and SWAT teams established a perimeter around the scene and worked to evacuate the mall as they searched for the shooting suspect. The Clackamas County Sheriff’s office urged members of the public to avoid the area.
A spokeswoman for the mall said she had no immediate information and directed calls to law enforcement.



Two dead in shooting at Oregon mall: Report - World - Canoe.ca


And apparently now the shooter has been 'neutralized'


Police 'neutralize' gunman in Portland-area mall shooting | Sympatico.ca News


Which I assume means dead or else they probably would have said arrested.
 
bill barilko
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Gee people in the USA are largely gun crazy homicidal maniacs-who knew?
 
Cliffy
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If it happened in the food court, it may have been a mercy killing. Most of that "food" can kill you.
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

If it happened in the food court, it may have been a mercy killing. Most of that "food" can kill you.

Oooooooooooooops sorry Cliffy, meant to hit the green.
 
Cliffy
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Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

Oooooooooooooops sorry Cliffy, meant to hit the green.

No worries mate!
 
CanIrish
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wow.. I guess they better all run out and buy more guns to protect themselves...
 
Colpy
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Quote: Originally Posted by bill barilko View Post

Gee people in the USA are largely gun crazy homicidal maniacs-who knew?

Actually, the murder rate in the United States is 4.2 per 100,000.

The world murder rate is 6.9 per 100,000.

The United States is one of the safer nations in which to live.
 
Cliffy
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List of countries by firearm-related death rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Twice the rate of Canada and rating 12 highest in the world, although, most are suicides.
 
Colpy
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Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

List of countries by firearm-related death rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Twice the rate of Canada and rating 12 highest in the world, although, most are suicides.

Cliffy, the rate of firearms related death is completely irrelevant.

If the murder rate is low, which it is, then the prevalence of firearms has not caused undue death.

People are just as dead if stabbed, bludgeoned, burned, strangled, tossed off high buildings, run over, beaten to death, drowned, etc etc.........
 
IdRatherBeSkiing
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Quote: Originally Posted by Colpy View Post

Cliffy, the rate of firearms related death is completely irrelevant.

If the murder rate is low, which it is, then the prevalence of firearms has not caused undue death.

People are just as dead if stabbed, bludgeoned, burned, strangled, tossed off high buildings, run over, beaten to death, drowned, etc etc.........

True but in this case, could 1 man have gone to 1 mall with 1 knife and injured so many or killed 2? The gun made it easier for one crazed individual to do more damage quicker.

That being said, I have little doubt that controlled or not, a lunitic will get he weapon he wants. So the gun control argument in these cases is moot (IMHO).
 
Niflmir
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Quote: Originally Posted by Colpy View Post

Cliffy, the rate of firearms related death is completely irrelevant.

If the murder rate is low, which it is, then the prevalence of firearms has not caused undue death.

People are just as dead if stabbed, bludgeoned, burned, strangled, tossed off high buildings, run over, beaten to death, drowned, etc etc.........

Or exploded by a nuclear bomb. Should we therefore just declare a free for all on nuclear arms since there is no biological difference between death by drowning and death by nuclear explosion?

Ignoring tactical functionality of certain weapons for a focus on biological deadness serves no other purpose than rhetorical confusion.

I'll agree to your first two points though. Although I become more and more convinced that the murder rate decrease can be attributed to the extreme incarceration rate. Other nations are able to obtain their low murder rates without such extreme incarceration rates, and that confounding variable may obscure the worrying trend of violence.
 
Locutus
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http://i.imgur.com/XRhrn.png

Could be fake though.

Last edited by Locutus; Dec 12th, 2012 at 02:11 PM..
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

List of countries by firearm-related death rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Twice the rate of Canada and rating 12 highest in the world, although, most are suicides.

Yeah, but the countries on the low end have a higher incidence of axe murders! -
 
L Gilbert
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Jeeezez some people author weird shyte.
Quote: Originally Posted by SLM View Post

Two dead in shooting at Oregon mall: Report
By Teresa Carson, Dan Whitcomb and Alex Dobuzinskis, Reuters

A gunman opened fire at an Oregon shopping mall outside Portland on Tuesday and several people were believed to have been shot, authorities said, while local media reported two had been killed.

.... but they aren't sure?
Quote:

The gunman remained at large at the Clackamas Town Center near the Portland suburb of Happy Valley, said Steve Campbell, spokesman for the city.
“There is an active shooter at the Clackamas Town Center,” Campbell said.
The Oregonian newspaper reported on its website that two people had been killed by a man using a semi-automatic rifle who may have also been wearing body armor. The paper said the shooting occurred near the mall’s food court.

Yet the people were only believed to have been shot?

Quote:

Oregonian sports reporter John Canzano, who said he was at the mall when the shooting began, tweeted that “panicked people are running from the mall” and later urged his followers simply to “pray.”

lmao Oh, that'd definitely ward off any flying projectiles. I'd have suggested something like, "RUN!" or "HIDE!".



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Two dead in shooting at Oregon mall: Report - World - Canoe.ca


And apparently now the shooter has been 'neutralized'


Police 'neutralize' gunman in Portland-area mall shooting | Sympatico.ca News


Which I assume means dead or else they probably would have said arrested.

lol

Oh, and BTW, yes, a person with a knife can be quite devastating in a crowd. The only difference is that the gun-weilder wouldn't have to be as quick and could stay in a small area to do the damage. If a dude that's adept with a knife is agile and fast, he could certainly do as much damage without having to stop and reload occasionally.
 
shadowshiv
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Thank goodness this idiot's gun jammed, otherwise I'm sure a lot more people may have been murdered. Gutless little coward was able to unjam it in time to blow his slimy little head off. Too bad he couldn't have just done it first, and those two people would still be alive.
 
SLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by L Gilbert View Post

Jeeezez some people author weird shyte.

It's a good thing they don't write for a living eh? lol

Quote: Originally Posted by shadowshiv View Post

Thank goodness this idiot's gun jammed, otherwise I'm sure a lot more people may have been murdered. Gutless little coward was able to unjam it in time to blow his slimy little head off. Too bad he couldn't have just done it first, and those two people would still be alive.

Gutless slimeballs should always shoot themselves first and ask questions later. Why they feel the need to take other people down with them I'll never understand.
 

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