The Evils of Socialism


Tecumsehsbones
#31
Quote: Originally Posted by gopher View Post

Yes, these do constitutes different aspects of socialism. Blame the following for believing in all that:

Jefferson believed in free education

Washington believed in roads and bridges

Thomas Paine believed in old age pension/social security

Alexander Hamilton believed in federal government building up the infrastructure.
Significantly, not one of these socialists believed in a standing army while they believed in separation of church and state.

Damn commies!
 
petros
+1
#32
Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

Hospitals.
Public education.
Police.
Fire and emergency medical services.
Health care.
Food and drug safety.
Consumer product safety.
Old age pensions.
Roads and bridges.
Sewers.
And, depending on your definition. . .
Laws.

All investments in Human Capital that is used by Govt to borrow money on your potential.


If your business relies on a truck do you not do everything you can to keep that truck earning?
 
gopher
No Party Affiliation
#33
Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmack;

They also owned slaves... thanks to Socialism I suppose.



Nope. Thanks to Christianity.
 
gopher
No Party Affiliation
#34
Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones;

Damn commies!

One of the greatest ironies in American history in that many delusionals of the far right believe socialists influenced modern American politics, particularly of the Democratic party when in reality it was our Founding Fathers who influenced socialists.
No surprise that history reveals this reality:

cartoonist Robert Minor was a communist
 
Danbones
Free Thinker
+1
#35
The bankers have been funding communism since it was invented because it is the easiest way to get control of a nation's assets.

it has effe all to do with politics.

Jacob Schiff was openly supportive of the Russian Revolution and in a letter published in the New York Times on 17 March, he ‘thanked the Almighty that a great and good people had been freed from their autocratic Czarist shackles’. [3] Two days later he voiced his opinion that Russia would, before long, rank financially amongst the most favoured nations in the money markets of the world. [4] Interestingly, that same issue of the New York Times reported that there had been a rise in Russian exchange transactions in London 24 hours preceding the revolution. Ah, the Rothschilds, as ever, a day ahead of the rest of the world. It was explained away as mere coincidence.
https://firstworldwarhiddenhistory.w...t-benefactors/

Why did Jacob H. Schiff decide to financially sponsor the Russian Revolutions of 1917?
(Ummm...see link above.)

Schiff encouraged and financed armed revolt against the Czar. He provided financial support for Jewish self-defence groups in Russia, including Bolshevik and other socialist revolutionaries. He was set on fomenting revolution in Russia. The America author, G. Edward Griffin, pondered the question of Schiff’s involvement and unequivocally stated that Schiff ‘was one of the principle backers of the Bolshevik revolution and personally financed Trotsky’s trip from New York to Russia’. [8] Years later, Jacob Schiff’s grandson admitted that his grandfather had given about $20 million for the triumph of communism in Russia. [9]...

...Professor Spence agreed that Schiff ‘had a track record of financing revolutionaries’, and was ‘pro-German’. [10] This latter observation somewhat lets his thesis down. The German born Schiff was not pro-German. He and his German born Warburg partners in Kuhn, Loeb bank on Wall Street, and his good friend (and their brother) Max Warburg in Germany, together with their close Rothschild links in France and London, were not operating a nationalist agenda, whether it be German, British or American, but an internationalist agenda. And that agenda was the domination of the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. [11]

(PRO HINT: the US LOST WW 1 and 2, AND the cold war... duh! They just SAID you won!)

...They were globalists, first and last, seeking control of the entire world. It is why the question of their support for political Zionism, and how that fitted into their agenda, is of critical importance when considering both the Bolshevik Revolution and the Balfour Declaration. The time-scale within which the Anglo-American global-elites power-base moved from London to New York, and the ever growing influence of political Zionism

(Say, where the hell is das with a tin foil hat meme?)

http://www.schiffnaturepreserve.org/...chiffEssay.pdf
Last edited by Danbones; Dec 5th, 2018 at 05:51 AM..
 
Danbones
Free Thinker
#36
Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

Damn commies!

In communism the state owns all the slaves and resources, (like uranium one) in common...

It's why there is communion.
Last edited by Danbones; Dec 5th, 2018 at 05:41 AM..
 
EagleSmack
+1
#37
Quote: Originally Posted by gopher View Post

Nope. Thanks to Christianity.


Well that was a Grade A FAIL.
 
MHz
#38
Up here 'D' is the fail line, unless you have a pencil and then everybody is smarter than anybody else. Now there is an education system that would be hard to beat.
 
gopher
No Party Affiliation
#39
Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmack View Post

Well that was a Grade A FAIL.


Phooey. Read a few books on American history and learn that it was the truth.
 
gopher
No Party Affiliation
+1 / -1
#40
Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmack;

They also owned slaves... thanks to Socialism I suppose.


Major League




In case you didn't know it, Republican hero Marx was born one full generation later.
 
Danbones
Free Thinker
#41
Lol, I like Trumps line to Ortrz: "People would rather walk their dogs than eat them!"
 
Cliffy
Free Thinker
#42
 
MHz
#43
Better to just go ahead and reflect when it is in your rear view mirror. Sometime being 'from someplace' is a lot better than 'staying'.
 
EagleSmack
+1
#44
Quote: Originally Posted by gopher View Post

Phooey. Read a few books on American history and learn that it was the truth.


I've read plenty... and you still FAIL.
 
EagleSmack
+1
#45
Quote: Originally Posted by gopher View Post





In case you didn't know it, Republican hero Marx was born one full generation later.


Republican Hero Marx... Impossible to debate against such stupidity.


Slavery was around long before Christianity.
 
DaSleeper
+3
#46
Slavery probably started with neanderthal man...
But...

Can't teach an ideologue anything...
 
MHz
#47
You do know people with bigger brains and bigger bodies were (most likely) smarter than your 'average politician' around today and the end of the ice-age saw their food supply going extinct.

Do you have a link showing they were dumber than you??
 
MHz
#48
Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmack View Post


Slavery was around long before Christianity.

We could narrow it down, 'for profit' using money as the measuring stick.
 
DaSleeper
+2
#49
Go away FOOL
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
+2
#50
Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmack View Post

Republican Hero Marx... Impossible to debate against such stupidity.
Slavery was around long before Christianity.

Quote: Originally Posted by MHz View Post

We could narrow it down, 'for profit' using money as the measuring stick.

Especially by the Slave traders located in the Middle East, where it started and is still in practice.
 
Soldier
#51
Socialism did working Russia and Cuba across the world only those in the world.

Since 2014 the Social Democrats and Left Party and Greens in Government Sweden.

Since 2017 or 2016 its same Government in Greece in the EU.
 
MHz
+1 / -1
#52
What sort of sanctions are you under because of it?? You know, like Cuba.
 
Soldier
#53
Cuba is neighboor of the US Western land both those.
 
MHz
#54
Quote: Originally Posted by Soldier View Post

Cuba is neighboor of the US Western land both those.

You spelled 'victim' wrong.
 
Theend
-1
#55
Quote: Originally Posted by MHz View Post

I didn't see any comment on how natural resources are used to generate more income for the state than for the foreign businesses that develop the resources for their use outside of the nation. The IMF is not a socialist entity unless you admit they work only for the World Bank and their only desire is to the World Bank. Create an economic disaster that starves many of the least important citizens and they offer a solution that puts them into perpetual debt.
A socialist Nation would try to be as independent as possible while the IMF makes sure they cannot even grow enough food for themselves because 'denial of food' is one of the first economic weapons used by the IMF using their 'political entity' the UN.
What was Libya before NATO came calling??
https://www.africanexponent.com/post...e-to-live-2746
Education and medical treatment were free
Newlyweds received U.S $50,000 from the government
Gaddafi carried out the world’s largest irrigation project
Libya had no external debt and had reserves of $150 billion most of which were frozen globally
The price of petrol was $0,14 per litre
Having a home was considered a human right
Gender equality actually a reality
The Human Development Index was better than two-thirds of the countries reported on
People had enough food
Privatization of all Libyan oil to every citizen

The improvements made by NATO.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/...073901622.html
The country's deterioration has led many inside and out of the country to question whether the country was better off during Gaddafi's 42-year-long reign.
'Dream of return'
For one group, however, there is no hint of regret over the late leader's demise.
The self-styled "Brother Leader" left little room for dissenting political expression, and those who dared align themselves with opposition political movements risked imprisonment or death.
Spurred by the atmosphere of repression, thousands of Libyans fled the country seeking new homes in other Arab states or further afield in Europe or the US.
The visit is to confirm the war against then is getting the desired results. Not only foes starvation punish the least important it sends a clear message to the rest of the world what resisting UN guidelines will get you. Step #1, accept the IMF loan (to fix the same things they had wrecked through lack of spare parts of bombing by a NATO friendly entity who do what they are told or the same underhanded means would be used against them.
His visit a year ago should have resulted in the same conditions that exist today were there a year ago and when no improvements are made that has to be taken as part of the 'master plan' and the UN reports are confirming that both the war and the sanctions are doing just what they are intended to accomplish.
http://www.naharnet.com/stories/en/2...ass-starvation

U.N. aid chief Mark Lowcock will travel to Yemen this week amid intense diplomacy to end a war that has pushed millions to the brink of famine.
The three-day visit beginning Thursday will allow the U.N. under-secretary-general for humanitarian affairs to see first-hand the world's worst humanitarian crisis, a UN statement said Wednesday.
U.N. peace envoy Martin Griffiths is hoping to bring the Saudi-backed Yemeni government and the Huthi rebels to Sweden in the coming days for negotiations on ending the three-year conflict.
At least 8 million people are at risk of starvation in Yemen, but UN aid officials fear four million more will face mass hunger if the fighting continues.
Lowcock, who last visited Yemen in October 2017, will hold talks with officials in the rebel-held capital of Sanaa and in government-controlled Aden.
http://www.naharnet.com/stories/en/2...hting-in-yemen

U.N. aid chief Mark Lowcock appealed Thursday for a halt to fighting in Yemen amid intense diplomacy to end a war that has pushed millions to the brink of famine.
"I'd like to see a cessation of hostilities, especially around the key infrastructure, especially around Hodeida," Lowcock told reporters after arriving in the rebel-held capital Sanaa.
Under heavy international pressure, Saudi-backed pro-government forces have largely suspended a five-month offensive on the insurgent-held port city of Hodeida, a key entry point for imports and aid.
U.N. agencies say 14 million Yemenis are at risk of starvation and the closure of the port would exacerbate the humanitarian crisis gripping the impoverished Arabian Peninsula country.
"I have come because I am very concerned about the humanitarian situation here, which has deteriorated since I was here last," Lowcock said.
"I'd like to see the environment in which the aid system operates, made easier for the aid agencies.
"I would like to see stronger economic support, more resources injected into the economy, salaries paid, more foreign exchange so that ordinary people have more money to buy the essentials to survive."
Lowcock will spend three days in Yemen to see first-hand the world's worst humanitarian crisis, according to the U.N.
U.N. peace envoy Martin Griffiths is hoping to bring the Saudi-backed Yemeni government and the Iran-aligned Huthi rebels to Sweden in the coming days for negotiations on ending the more than three-year conflict.

And the great Satan set up Gaddafi to get the blame for Pan Am 103, the Lockerbie TERRORIST bombing... and he payed billions to the families. There was a coupleof unfortunate individuals who were trying to dothe right thing. It just goes on and on.

They blame Russia for everything.

Up until 6 months ago I thought Putin was pure evil. Unbelievable!!!.... Putin and Trump are the Angels!!!!!

All the GMO garbage fast foods, all the bs people believe, they're deliberately killing off all the insects and bees so they can control that as well.

All the poison they keep feeding the population through pharmaceuticals....radiation to treat cancer. They are 100% behind the opiod crisis. They are bringing in more fentanyl than anyone. Muthaphukkas.

Sorry off topic.

Socialism works, if the people are honest and work hard. And the slimey joo George Soros keeps the phukk out. They want capitalism so they can come take everything. But everything doesn't have to be run by the government.

How did you guys let this happen??????

They said "hey look" and you just kept on looking.
The "likeable" guys. "He's a nice guy"...

No body wants to be called the "niceguy".
 
Cliffy
Free Thinker
+1 / -1
#56
Too bad people can't wrap their heads around the fact that the Elite are behind both capitalism and socialism... capitalism to keep the machine moving along and socialism to keep the population managable... the left and right foot of the monster stomping it's way forward like godzilla through miniature tokyo while the useful idiots argue over which foot they want to run under.... - Jeff Lariviere
 
DaSleeper
+3
#57
 
MHz
#58
It must be from yourself, the internet is odor free, trolls do stink but they are spotted rather than 'smelled out'.


"You add nothing to the discussion in every thread you infect. You do not enter into conversation . You,re stuff
is like the scribbling on a breakfast cereal box."
 
Cliffy
Free Thinker
#59
 
Danbones
Free Thinker
#60
Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeper View Post

Then: Don't breath when you are talking you racist apartheid stooge.
 

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