Will we ever have an election again?


Blackleaf
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PM Boris Johnson has offered the opposition the election they claim to have been craving, again, and they appear set to reject it, again...

Will we ever have an election again?

This has become farcical. This zombie parliament must end.

TOM SLATER
DEPUTY EDITOR
25th October 2019
Spiked



The year is 2051. An 87-year-old Boris Johnson is still prime minister, commanding a majority of minus 200 in the House of Commons.

The taxidermied remains of Jeremy Corbyn looks lairily at him each day from across the chamber.

The Liberal Independent Group for Anti-Democratic Change, formed by breakaway elements of the other parties in the great merger of 2020, is by far the largest bloc.

For some reason it has never found the ‘right time’ to assert control of the Commons. But by some convoluted means it has successfully delayed some 187 attempts to hold a General Election.

The UK is still a member of the European Union. But no one else is. Long since collapsed, it is now just a portacabin outside the Mini-Europe miniature park in Brussels.

It employs one man, whose job it is to sweep up, sort the post, and respond to the United Kingdom’s periodic requests for an extension to Article 50.

Somehow, his expenses are exorbitant.

They say making predictions these days is a mug’s game. But I’m pretty sure that’s where we’re headed. Or rather, given the Kafkaesque turn British politics has taken, nothing could surprise me now.

PM Boris Johnson has offered the opposition the election they claim to have been craving, again, and they appear set to reject it, again.

Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn has indicated he will back a General Election once the European Union grants an extension to Article 50. But the EU is holding off on making that decision until MPs vote on the election.

You can see the problem here. But at least it will keep half of Corbyn’s parliamentary party happy, who are apparently dead-set against an election and would rather we go for a second Brexit referendum first.

Last night it was reported that Labour MPs have been instructed to abstain on Boris Johnson’s General Election motion, which will go before the Commons for a vote on Monday.

To call this behaviour dysfunctional just doesn’t cut it. It is depraved. This week, parliament once again blocked the government’s central legislation, but is refusing an opportunity to go to the country. There is no democratic justification for this.

Labour, the Lib Dems and the SNP are choosing to keep a man in power who they – in their more sassy moments – claim is basically Hitler because they think it suits their interests, either because they want him to sweat or (in Labour’s case) they fear the ballot box.

The upshot of all of this is that our immediate political impasse, and the deeper, more profound paralysis over Brexit, will go on – while people’s faith in democracy and the political class continues to drain away.

Three-and-half years since we voted to leave the EU, we are no closer to leaving, and no closer to any kind of resolution one way or another. These people want to overthrow our vote but still don’t have the balls – or the numbers – to do it decisively. At least not yet.

So what we have is endless, increasingly absurd, delay, perpetuated by a zombie parliament that, as Brendan O’Neill put it on spiked this week, is not so much out-of-touch as it is illegitimate. It has no mandate to lead and yet seemingly no desire to seek one.

How long can this go on? A long time, it seems – when you’ve got this shower in place. We at spiked never had that much faith in the political class. But the lack of principle and absence of shame on display at the moment is enough to surprise even the most hardened cynic.

Christ, we need an election.

It won’t in itself ‘settle’ Brexit. The Tories – the biggest, most viable Leave party – are after all offering us a ‘deal’ that falls far short of taking back control. And even then, the establishment is determined to fight that agreement tooth and nail.

But we need an election to bring us, the public, back into this process. And to give at least some members of the political class the shoeing they so clearly deserve.

We need to clear out those political fraudsters – the Anna Soubrys of this world – who have been squatting in parliament. Those who stood on pro-Brexit manifestos before defecting to other parties to thwart the wishes of their own constituents.

Seeing that lot lose their seats will be consolation enough for a Christmas election.

But more importantly, we need to remind the entire political class that we’re still here. That we haven’t gone away. That we know what is going on here.

This farce we’ve all been living through these past three years must come to an end. An election is the first essential step in that direction.

Tom Slater is deputy editor at spiked. Follow him on Twitter: @Tom_Slater_

https://www.spiked-online.com/2019/1...lection-again/
 
Cannuck
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The Brittish are a very silly people. Brexiters are dishonest
 
Serryah
Free Thinker
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Quote: Originally Posted by Cannuck View Post

The Brittish are a very silly people. Brexiters are dishonest


Monty Python has meme's for this.
 
Blackleaf
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Quote: Originally Posted by Serryah View Post

Monty Python has meme's for this.







 
Cannuck
No Party Affiliation
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You’re quite angry about all this aren’t you?
 
Blackleaf
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Quote: Originally Posted by Cannuck View Post

You’re quite angry about all this aren’t you?

Very.
 
Cannuck
No Party Affiliation
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You should be more angry at the lying Brexiters but you are too dishonest
 
Blackleaf
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Quote: Originally Posted by Cannuck View Post

You should be more angry at the lying Brexiters but you are too dishonest

I'm not angry at Brexiteers. Like most Britons, I am one.
 
Cannuck
No Party Affiliation
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Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

I'm not angry at Brexiteers.

I know. You like dishonesty
 
Blackleaf
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Quote: Originally Posted by Cannuck View Post

I know. You like dishonesty

I like Brexit, democracy, sovereignty and independence.

You don't.
 
Cannuck
No Party Affiliation
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Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

I like Brexit, democracy, sovereignty and independence.
You don't.

Why are you so dishonest?
 
Blackleaf
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Quote: Originally Posted by Cannuck View Post

Why are you so dishonest?

Are you saying I don't like those things?

And that you do?
Last edited by Blackleaf; Oct 28th, 2019 at 08:24 PM..
 
Blackleaf
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From one very intelligent man to a lesser intelligent man: your opposition to Brexit means you're an opponent of democracy, sovereignty, freedom and nationhood.
 
Serryah
Free Thinker
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So last I heard, Brexit is extended.


Are you angry at BoJo for not doing like he said? Or is he still saying Britain is leaving Oct 31 come hell or his body in a ditch?
 
Blackleaf
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Quote: Originally Posted by Serryah View Post

So last I heard, Brexit is extended.
Are you angry at BoJo for not doing like he said? Or is he still saying Britain is leaving Oct 31 come hell or his body in a ditch?

I'm not angry at Boris. It's not his fault. I'm angry at the Remoaners.
 
Serryah
Free Thinker
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Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

I'm not angry at Boris. It's not his fault. I'm angry at the Remoaners.


But he lied!


He said he'd rather see his body in a ditch than not leave 31 October.


So should we expect for Hallowe'en, Boris's body in a ditch somewhere????
 
Blackleaf
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Quote: Originally Posted by Serryah View Post

But he lied!

No, he didn't, dear.

You know that as well as I do. Don't lie.
 
Serryah
Free Thinker
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Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

No, he didn't, dear.

You know that as well as I do. Don't lie.


LOL - you are straining, so hard, to support your guy.


And now you're gaslighting because it's all you have left.


He lied.


It's there, in video and his own words.


The UK is NOT leaving the EU on 31 October.


Therefore. He. Lied.
 
Cannuck
No Party Affiliation
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Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

Are you saying I don't like those things?
And that you do?

I’m saying, why are you so dishonest.
 
Blackleaf
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Quote: Originally Posted by Serryah View Post

He lied.

LOL! No, he didn't.
 
Blackleaf
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Quote: Originally Posted by Cannuck View Post

I’m saying, why are you so dishonest.

More importantly for people's wellbeing, why do you have fascistic tendencies?
 
Cannuck
No Party Affiliation
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I see it’s a difficult question
 
Blackleaf
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The UK looks set for a December general election after Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn announced his party was ready to fight the "most radical campaign ever".

Mr Corbyn said his condition of taking a no-deal Brexit off the table had now been met after the EU agreed to extend the deadline until 31 January 2020.

Prime Minister Boris Johnson can only hold an election with the support of MPs - who have blocked it three times.

The PM will make a fresh attempt to get their backing in Parliament later.

The government bill published ahead of the Commons debate is for an early election on 12 December.

But the Scottish National Party and Liberal Democrats want a 9 December poll, saying it would prevent the prime minister from pushing his Brexit deal through Parliament.

No 10 sources have told the BBC they would accept 11 December to get opposition parties on-board - and they have agreed to put Brexit legislation on hold, for now.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50221856

Right, people, let's give Boris a huge majority and finally get Brexit done.
 
Serryah
Free Thinker
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Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

The UK looks set for a December general election after Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn announced his party was ready to fight the "most radical campaign ever".

Mr Corbyn said his condition of taking a no-deal Brexit off the table had now been met after the EU agreed to extend the deadline until 31 January 2020.

Prime Minister Boris Johnson can only hold an election with the support of MPs - who have blocked it three times.

The PM will make a fresh attempt to get their backing in Parliament later.

The government bill published ahead of the Commons debate is for an early election on 12 December.

But the Scottish National Party and Liberal Democrats want a 9 December poll, saying it would prevent the prime minister from pushing his Brexit deal through Parliament.

No 10 sources have told the BBC they would accept 11 December to get opposition parties on-board - and they have agreed to put Brexit legislation on hold, for now.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50221856

Right, people, let's give Boris a huge majority and finally get Brexit done.


Brexit should happen.


There should have been a general election vote before it to ensure that BoJo had an actual mandate. But there wasn't so... whatever. Anyway...


Brexit should happen on Thursday.


General election after a period of six months - give him and his time to figure out Brexit after it's done.


IMO THAT'S what should be going on. Not this BS.
 
Blackleaf
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Quote: Originally Posted by Serryah View Post

Brexit should happen.
There should have been a general election vote before it to ensure that BoJo had an actual mandate. But there wasn't so... whatever. Anyway...
Brexit should happen on Thursday.
General election after a period of six months - give him and his time to figure out Brexit after it's done.
IMO THAT'S what should be going on. Not this BS.

By law, there doesn't need to be an election until 2022.
 
Serryah
Free Thinker
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Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

By law, there doesn't need to be an election until 2022.


Fine, but then they're already talking 12 December as an early possible voting date.


So how do you feel about that?
 
Blackleaf
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Remainers Accept Defeat As Boris Confirms Brexit Election.

As Labour and Lib Dem MPs fail to pass their amendments to allow 16 and 17 year olds to vote, the government prepares for early general election. It’s now time for brexiteers to unite, whether you are Tory or Brexit Party.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=W0NvDb28ncs
 
Blackleaf
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The UK is set to go to the polls on 12 December after MPs backed Boris Johnson's call for an election following months of Brexit deadlock.

By a margin of 438 votes to 20, the House of Commons approved legislation paving the way for the first December election since 1923.

The bill is still to be approved by the Lords but could become law by the end of the week.

If that happens, there will be a five-week campaign up to polling day.

The prime minister has said the public must be "given a choice" over the future of Brexit and the country.

LIVE: Reaction as MPs back election
Did my MP vote for a 12 December election?
A really simple guide to the UK general election
Mr Johnson hopes the election will give him a fresh mandate for his Brexit deal and break the current Parliamentary deadlock, which has led to the UK's exit being further delayed to 31 January.

The PM said it was time for the country to "come together to get Brexit done", as he left a meeting of the 1922 Committee of backbench Conservatives held minutes after the vote.

He has readmitted 10 of the 21 Conservative MPs he threw out of the party for rebelling over Brexit, allowing them to stand as Conservative candidates.

Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn said: "This election is a once-in-a-generation chance to transform our country and take on the vested interests holding people back."

He said his party would "now launch the most ambitious and radical campaign for real change that our country has ever seen".



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-50229318

A victory for Boris. He wanted it on 12th December whereas the Remainers, who keep saying they don't want No Deal Brexit, were hoping it would be on 9th December to try and block Boris's deal.
 
Blackleaf
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This election is a fight for the soul of democracy

If we use our ballots wisely, we can seriously wound the anti-democratic elites.

BRENDAN O'NEILL
EDITOR
29th October 2019
Spiked



It’s on. At last. A General Election. For weeks Labour and the Lib Dems blocked Boris Johnson’s plea for an election. They engaged in a deeply cynical form of voter suppression, denying the public the thing we so urgently need: the democratic right to pass judgement on this zombie parliament and on its members who are brazenly reneging on the promise they made in their 2017 manifestos to uphold the vote for Brexit. But today, finally, Jeremy Corbyn and others, perhaps aware that continually preventing an election made them look like cowards and autocrats, have relented. They now say they will back a public vote. About time. Bring it on.

The importance of this election cannot be overstated. So much hinges on it – politically, historically, even psychologically. In this election, the people have a brilliant opportunity to push back against the most dangerous and authoritarian wing of the 21st-century establishment: the Remainer elite. All those sections of the political class who over the past three years have demonstrated their contempt for democratic principles, their fear and loathing of the judgement of the masses, and their willingness to upend hard-fought-for rights and freedoms in order to preserve their grip on political power, on the moral order and on the very parameters of public debate – we now have the chance to weaken these elitists and to make it clear to the entire establishment that such behaviour will not be tolerated again. It is a chance we must seize with vigour.

The great thing about this election is that it returns power to the people. The tragedy of Brexit is that this huge, unprecedented public vote for change, for a renewal of our democratic institutions, came to be co-opted and dominated by the fearful, technocratic establishment. It became entirely their property. The people’s cry for a break from the EU and a restoration of the ideal of democratic accountability ended up as little more than a talking point among politicians – mostly politicians who are of course opposed to breaking from the EU and submitting themselves to greater democratic accountability. So they frustrated the people’s cry; they stifled it, thwarted it, depicted it as something terrible and dangerous. It was one of the greatest betrayals of democracy in modern times.

But now the question of Brexit – and of democracy more broadly – is coming back to the people. Politicians are submitting themselves to our judgement. They have no choice. After all, we are their masters, however much they might hate or try to deny that fact. It is essential that we take seriously our recovery of political power. That we behave as democratic citizens who have the right and the authority to determine the fate of the political class and the future of the nation. There is one key task in this election: to frustrate the ambitions of the anti-democratic elites by voting against them in any way we can and by voting for the radical democratic change so many of us voted for in 2016.

The balance of power in this country has got to be shifted. We know that the Remainer establishment is fractured and on the defensive. We know it lives in dread of the people’s judgement. We know that the arrogance with which it demeans and frustrates the vote for Brexit is born more from desperation than confidence. And now we have it within our power to further isolate these elites. If we do so, we can hold back many of the backward trends they represent: anti-democracy, paternalism, PC, the urge to censor certain forms of political speech, a preference for globalism over social solidarity, and a greater trust in middle-class experts over the wisdom of the crowd. If we use our ballots wisely, we can temper and tame these trends, or certainly the people who rally around these trends.

spiked won’t be supporting a particular party. Our advice is to vote for the candidate who best represents or understands the Brexit spirit and whose victory would send the clearest possible message to the Remain establishment that their stranglehold on political progress is over. That could be a Tory candidate, a Labour candidate or a Brexit Party candidate: if they are committed to upholding the vote of 2016, consider giving them your vote in this election. The message to the establishment must be crystal clear: the people of this nation will never tolerate the usurping of a democratic vote, and we will push back against every one of you who has spent the past three years trying to do that.

Brendan O’Neill is editor of spiked and host of the spiked podcast, The Brendan O’Neill Show. Subscribe to the podcast here. And find Brendan on Instagram: @burntoakboy

Brendan will be speaking at the sessions ‘What can we learn from the English Civil War?’ and ‘Extinction or progress? Visions of the future’ at the Battle of Ideas festival in London this weekend. Get tickets here.

https://www.spiked-online.com/2019/1...-of-democracy/
 
Tecumsehsbones
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Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

Will we ever have an election again?

I hope not. You've certainly proven yourselves far too stupid to handle democracy.