The sanctimonious poppy police should perhaps spend more time in quiet remembrance


mentalfloss
+2
#1
I personally don't give a fukk about the poppy, but thought this was an interesting viewpoint.


The sanctimonious poppy police should perhaps spend more time in quiet remembrance

For some, it is an acutely specific tribute to those who lost their lives during the Great War. For others, it represents the sacrifice that any serviceman or woman has made for their country from that time forth. Others still perceive it as a very direct way of donating to an extremely worthy cause.

Sadly, the beautifully poignant and purposely humble symbol of the poppy has added connotations these days. Rather being an icon of pure remembrance, it has become an ominous precursor to rage, rushed judgement, sanctimony and frothing hatred. The only thing people remember is to get vexed.

Some folk choose to wear poppies, some do not. In previous years and decades that wasn't really an issue. Sadly no more. We now live in an age when those with far too much bitterness in their hearts and time on their hands engage in furious crusades to dictate how others look, feel and behave. They are the poppy police.

They want everyone to adorn themselves with the tribute, and demand that the small red flower is pinned absolutely everywhere - without exception. It is their strong belief that anyone sans poppy is a heartless bastard who needs to be outed and condemned for mocking the dead via their unpatriotic inaction.

The irony of remembering those who fought against fascism in such a totalitarian way is completely lost on them. Nor do they seem to accept that the physical replica of a poppy is not the be-all and end-all of remembrance. If you don't wear the poppy you can't possibly care; an empty lapel marks you out as heartless.

The likes of Irish international footballer James McClean is branded an enemy in our midst for opting out, despite the fact that he has very personal and valid reasons not to participate. For many it would be far preferable for the Derry man to act as a tremendous hypocrite and wear one regardless.

The sanctimonious poppy police should perhaps spend more time in quiet remembrance | JOE.co.uk
 
Tecumsehsbones
#2
We have a solution for that.


 
Johnnny
No Party Affiliation
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#3
I have never seen the "Poppy Police" in Canada and i live in one of those "They took our jobs" kind of place. And i live here so you can trust everything i say.

Question:

Do you think an article written in Britain pertains to our country? We have a great connection to the poppy but I've yet to meet the "Poppy Police"

Me personally i havent worn one since grade 8 and no one has given me or anyone else that i know of grief...
 
petros
#4
Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

We have a solution for that.


Colt 45s are sweet.
 
Murphy
Conservative
+2
#5
With very functional grips. They roll in your hand under recoil. Easier to control than the slab sided 45 Govt, for example.
 
Tecumsehsbones
+2
#6
Some folk like to piss and moan about how they only hold six and take a long time to reload. I just say "If you need more than six, you're a lousy shot."
 
Murphy
Conservative
+1
#7
That's why I carried a Model 64 and later a 686 for many years. Enough punch without being pretentious. My service sidearm was a Browning Hi Power. I was never a fan of the Browning or the 9mm however, but you gotta work with what you're given.

I am thinking of getting a CA revolver in 44 Special. If Keith and Skelton recommended the 44 special, that's all a fellow needs, I figure. And 6 shots is just fine, thank you.

Further to the above.


I just loaded up a bunch of 38 and 44 Special for a couple of lever guns - Pumas - that I use for deer and coyote hunting. Eastern coyotes can be called in close and hunted from deer stands.
 
Curious Cdn
Conservative
+2
#8
The irony of remembering those who fought against fascism in such a totalitarian way is completely lost on them.

Wrong war, Clyde.

In Flanders Fieids was written at a Battalion Aid Station in the Ypres Salient during the Second Battle of Ypres where poison gas was being used for the first time in history on the Canadian men that the author was treating. Hitler hadn't even made Corporal, yet.
 
darkbeaver
Republican
#9
Quote: Originally Posted by mentalfloss View Post

I personally don't give a fukk about the poppy, but thought this was an interesting viewpoint.


The sanctimonious poppy police should perhaps spend more time in quiet remembrance

For some, it is an acutely specific tribute to those who lost their lives during the Great War. For others, it represents the sacrifice that any serviceman or woman has made for their country from that time forth. Others still perceive it as a very direct way of donating to an extremely worthy cause.

Sadly, the beautifully poignant and purposely humble symbol of the poppy has added connotations these days. Rather being an icon of pure remembrance, it has become an ominous precursor to rage, rushed judgement, sanctimony and frothing hatred. The only thing people remember is to get vexed.

Some folk choose to wear poppies, some do not. In previous years and decades that wasn't really an issue. Sadly no more. We now live in an age when those with far too much bitterness in their hearts and time on their hands engage in furious crusades to dictate how others look, feel and behave. They are the poppy police.

They want everyone to adorn themselves with the tribute, and demand that the small red flower is pinned absolutely everywhere - without exception. It is their strong belief that anyone sans poppy is a heartless bastard who needs to be outed and condemned for mocking the dead via their unpatriotic inaction.

The irony of remembering those who fought against fascism in such a totalitarian way is completely lost on them. Nor do they seem to accept that the physical replica of a poppy is not the be-all and end-all of remembrance. If you don't wear the poppy you can't possibly care; an empty lapel marks you out as heartless.

The likes of Irish international footballer James McClean is branded an enemy in our midst for opting out, despite the fact that he has very personal and valid reasons not to participate. For many it would be far preferable for the Derry man to act as a tremendous hypocrite and wear one regardless.

The sanctimonious poppy police should perhaps spend more time in quiet remembrance | JOE.co.uk

I don't wear one because excepting the guys who did the trenches and foxholes the rest of us remember nothing but what's been spooned into us about a mountain of dead and thier good deeds. You remember nothing, you weren't there. You repeat the bankers limp regret annually. Making it certain that you will offer up your children to the fire of war. Wake up shjthead.



I don't remember any of them.

And neither do you.

And niether do you.
 
Curious Cdn
Conservative
+1
#10
I remember my kinsmen who's names are carved in the Menin Gate. That's all that was left of them after they were blown to atoms.
 
Murphy
Conservative
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#11
Yes, but it's more.

I often tell people that while the idea of using November 11th was decided many years ago, Remembrance Day isn't something that is frozen in time. Remembrance Day isn't just about WWI. It's about all the wars where men fought and died. When subsequent conflicts came along, names got added to the cenotaphs.

I'm thinking about Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, others.
 
darkbeaver
Republican
+1
#12
I bet if they had it to do again they might choose some other way of effecting change.
 
Murphy
Conservative
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#13
I doubt that most of them had a choice.
 
Curious Cdn
Conservative
#14
Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaver View Post

I bet if they had it to do again they might choose some other way of effecting change.

Like a Merican-style election?

Too much violence, too little result.
 
darkbeaver
Republican
#15
Violence is good for business, the results are easily quantifiable. You got it all, they got nothing.A very good deal if you don't actually have to get dirty. Lot's of young and stunned young men will follow your lead

Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

Like a Merican-style election?

Too much violence, too little result.

We,ll have to wait for a bit to see result, maybe this Trump is the real thing or maybe he isn't. What does he weigh? Can he punch? Will he fold for gold?
 
Bar Sinister
No Party Affiliation
#16
Actually I have never noticed this. I always buy a poppy, but find that it usually falls off within five minutes due to its cheap pin. I feel no pressure at all to wear one; after all I could give a detailed lecture on Canada's history regarding the various wars in which it has participated; particularly the two world Wars.
 
Cannuck
No Party Affiliation
#17
Reading the OP, all I could think about was Jordan Peterson. The poppy Nazis sound alot like the pronoun Nazis
 
mentalfloss
+1
#18
Forcing people to wear the poppy is there most egregious act of political correctness that can possibly exist.
 
petros
#19
Forced? By?
 
Tecumsehsbones
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#20
Quote: Originally Posted by Murphy View Post

Yes, but it's more.

I often tell people that while the idea of using November 11th was decided many years ago, Remembrance Day isn't something that is frozen in time. Remembrance Day isn't just about WWI. It's about all the wars where men fought and died. When subsequent conflicts came along, names got added to the cenotaphs.

I'm thinking about Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, others.

Which is why we call it Veterans Day.

Well, that and, to be honest, we don't see much good about the 1914-18 mess. We tend to see it as a family feud run by two sides that were so blindingly incompetent they beat themselves to a standstill and destroyed a continent, then when they were standing there staring at each other, too hurt and tired to throw a meaningful punch, we finally sighed and went over to wrap it up.
 
TenPenny
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#21
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

In Flanders Fieids was written at a Battalion Aid Station in the Ypres Salient during the Second Battle of Ypres where poison gas was being used for the first time in history on the Canadian men that the author was treating. Hitler hadn't even made Corporal, yet.



A relative of mine was a nurse working there when McCrae wrote the poem, she mentioned it and quoted early drafts in a letter home.
 
mentalfloss
#22
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

Forced? By?

The media.
 
DaSleeper
+3
#23
So Floosie was the first to go salty this year about remembrance day

Bravo

 
petros
#24
Quote: Originally Posted by mentalfloss View Post

The media.

The media? Do they write tickets or indict?
 
Tecumsehsbones
#25
Quote: Originally Posted by Murphy View Post

That's why I carried a Model 64 and later a 686 for many years. Enough punch without being pretentious. My service sidearm was a Browning Hi Power. I was never a fan of the Browning or the 9mm however, but you gotta work with what you're given.

I am thinking of getting a CA revolver in 44 Special. If Keith and Skelton recommended the 44 special, that's all a fellow needs, I figure. And 6 shots is just fine, thank you.

Further to the above.


I just loaded up a bunch of 38 and 44 Special for a couple of lever guns - Pumas - that I use for deer and coyote hunting. Eastern coyotes can be called in close and hunted from deer stands.

Hey, I like the Hi-Power! Beats the crap outta that Italian POS we had.

But as fond as I am of the good ol' guns, I have to admit, the Glock is a dream. I have a Glock 24, .40 cal, six-inch, that just don't miss.
 
Cannuck
No Party Affiliation
#26
Quote: Originally Posted by mentalfloss View Post

The media.

I'm carrying a flag at the local ceremony today and won't be wearing a poppy. I wonder if it'll make the national news
 
petros
#27
Take photos.
 
tay
+3
#28
Quote: Originally Posted by Bar Sinister View Post

Actually I have never noticed this. I always buy a poppy, but find that it usually falls off within five minutes due to its cheap pin. I feel no pressure at all to wear one; after all I could give a detailed lecture on Canada's history regarding the various wars in which it has participated; particularly the two world Wars.

I tried this and it's stayed on for 5 days..........

How to pin a poppy' After pushing the pin through your clothing like normal, make sure you finish by pushing it through the edge of the poppy itself.


 
mentalfloss
#29
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

The media? Do they write tickets or indict?

They're forcing us to be politically correct about war.


Down with them.
 
tay
+1
#30
Representatives from the Royal Canadian Legion have confirmed that their 2016 poppies were designed for optimal pointiness, size, and “gouge-ability”, to help Canadians better remember their soldiers’ sacrifices.

The newly redesigned poppy , nicknamed “The Pokey”, was developed by engineers in the Legion ’s Department of Applied Remembrance Science. By incorporating cutting edge cutting edge technology, Legion technicians were able to develop a pin so exposed and unsafe that Canadians would have no choice but to remember the nation’s fallen heroes.

Lest we forget the brave Canadians who fought at Vimy Ridge , Dieppe , or recently in Afghanistan ,” affirmed retired army colonel Jean-Marc Sampson, as a pool of blood seeped out from under his poppy pin. “Also, do you have any kleenex? I think I hit an artery.”

All across the country, ordinary Canadians have expressed approval for the new super-sharp poppies. Martin Banks, of Halifax, explained, “These extra-stabby pins are really (ouch!) helping me to imagine the pain and (OW!) bravery of our (Son of a…) Canadian (DAMMIT!) servicemen (YEOWCH!) and (OW!) women (RRRrrr…)”

Banks then excused himself to find the nearest first aid station.

As Canadians prepare to honour their fallen heroes on Remembrance Day , Canada Health Services reminds attendees not to wear more than one redesigned poppy at a time, and to keep them out of the reach of children and pets.

The Legion has also announced plans in 2017 to share their poppy technology with Canadian Blood Services.

https://www.thebeaverton.com/2016/11...ers-sacrifice/
 

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