Thai cave rescue


Hoid
#1
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/thailan...es-2018-07-06/

Former navy seal dies of anoxea after delivering oxygen to trapped kids. Could not make it back.

I do not see how a group of mostly non swimmer's are going to be able to get out of there.

I have read a couple of things on this and they are truly ****ed.
 
Jinentonix
#2
Cave diving is definitely NOT for the inexperienced diver. More divers have died in caves than in open water. I was thinking they might just work on keeping them supplied until the water level drops but I think it's the rainy season there right now so that's not likely an option.
 
spaminator
#3
playing soccer in a cave is not recommended.
 
Hoof Hearted
+1
#4
I read that the kids in the cave could hear children playing and animal noises. Perhaps they are close to the surface and they can possibly drill down to get them?
 
spaminator
#5
http://torontosun.com/news/world/mir...rescue-mission

http://torontosun.com/news/world/ope...ed-cave-begins
 
Danbones
#6
Ace in the Hole

Ace in the Hole, also known as The Big Carnival, is a 1951 American film noir[2] starring Kirk Douglas as a cynical, disgraced reporter who stops at nothing to try to regain a job on a major newspaper. The film co-stars Jan Sterling and features Robert Arthur and Porter Hall.[3]


Plot
Chuck Tatum (Kirk Douglas) is a fiercely ambitious, self-centered, wisecracking, down-on-his-luck reporter who has worked his way down the ladder. He has come west to New Mexico from New York City, along the way having been fired from eleven newspapers for libel, adultery, and heavy drinking, among other charges. Now that his car has broken down and he is broke, Tatum talks his way into a reporting job for the Albuquerque Sun-Bulletin, a paper of little consequence.

Tatum stays sober and works there uneventfully for a year. Then while unhappily on assignment to cover a rattlesnake hunt, he learns about Leo Minosa (Richard Benedict), a local man who has become trapped in a cave collapse while gathering ancient Indian artifacts.

Sensing a golden opportunity, Tatum manipulates the rescue effort, convincing an unscrupulous sheriff to pressure the construction contractor charged with the rescue into drilling from above, rather than the quicker method of shoring up the existing passages, so that Tatum can prolong his own stay on the front pages of newspapers nationwide.

Lorraine (Jan Sterling), the victim's wife, goes along with the reporter's scheme. She is eager to leave Leo and their struggling business, a combination trading post and restaurant in the middle of nowhere. Thanks to the publicity Tatum generates, she experiences a financial windfall, particularly from thousands of tourists who come to witness the rescue.

Herbie Cook (Robert Arthur), the newspaper's young photographer, slowly loses his idealism as he follows Tatum's lead and envisions himself selling pictures to Look or Life. The editor of the Albuquerque Sun-Bulletin tries to talk some sense into his employees, but Tatum quits on the spot, having sold the exclusive rights to his copy to a New York editor for $1000 per day and, more importantly, his old job back.

Thousands flock to the town. The rescue site literally becomes a carnival, with rides, entertainment, songs about Leo, even games of chance. Tatum begins drinking again. He takes up with Lorraine and is greeted heroically by the crowd each time he returns from visiting poor Leo in the cave.

After five days of drilling, the party atmosphere ends abruptly. Upon learning that Leo is fading fast, Tatum sends a news flash, saying that Leo will now be rescued by shoring up the cave walls. But when he speaks to the contractor, he learns that the vibration from drilling has made this impossible.

Tatum has mistreated Lorraine once too often as well, and she stabs him with a pair of scissors. Tatum gets the local priest, and takes him into the cave to administer Last Rites. Leo dies.

Tatum has neglected to send copy to the New York editor, and is fired. He calls the editor and tries to confess to killing Leo by delaying the rescue, but the editor hangs up on him. Tatum barely reaches his old office in Albuquerque. He enters calling for publisher Boot (Porter Hall). As Boot walks out of his office to deal with him, Tatum offers to work for nothing, saying that he's a 1000-dollar a day newspaperman. But before he can say any more to Boot, Tatum falls dead on to the floor.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ace_in...ole_(1951_film)
 
spaminator
#7
http://torontosun.com/news/world/tha...scue-operation

http://torontosun.com/news/world/res...l-phase-begins
 
Curious Cdn
+3
#8  Top Rated Post
Amazing story! Good ending (mostly). Remember the Thai Navy diver who died in the attempt.
 
Walter
+2 / -1
#9
Everybody is out of the cave. Great news.
 
Hoid
+1
#10
Amazing story. These divers are real heroes.
 
bill barilko
+1
#11
Now Thai authorities are left to manage the crowds of tourist idiots attracted by the cave's notoriety-and don't kid yourself they'll be coming after the monsoon.
 
Johnnny
#12
Quote: Originally Posted by bill barilko View Post

Now Thai authorities are left to manage the crowds of tourist idiots attracted by the cave's notoriety-and don't kid yourself they'll be coming after the monsoon.

5 bucks
 
petros
+1
#13
A happy ending.
 
Johnnny
+2
#14
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/thailan...es-2018-07-06/

Former navy seal dies of anoxea after delivering oxygen to trapped kids. Could not make it back.

I do not see how a group of mostly non swimmer's are going to be able to get out of there.

I have read a couple of things on this and they are truly ****ed.

Truly ****ed?

You have either no faith or no brain, believe in the determination of people kind
Last edited by Johnnny; Jul 10th, 2018 at 12:00 PM..
 
Walter
-1
#15
Quote: Originally Posted by Johnnny View Post

Truly ****ed?

You have either no faith or no brain, believe in the determination of people kind

Hoid = Avro =Troll
 
bill barilko
#16
[youtube]cRcm8fFqRLU[/youtube]

‘Narcissist’ Musk berated for pushing ‘impractical’ mini-sub on Thai cave rescuers

Elon Musk is being ridiculed online for his highly-publicized attempts to help rescue the trapped Thai boys in a music-playing mini-submarine – which local authorities deemed “impractical.”

Thai Navy SEALs have just completed the monumental three-day rescue mission to guide 12 boys and their 25-year-old coach to safety from deep inside a water-filled, winding cave. However, Tesla and SpaceX CEO Elon Musk appears to be getting a chunk of the praise for the rescue mission – without actually contributing to the efforts.

https://www.rt.com/usa/432480-elon-m...ailand-rescue/
 
Hoid
+1
#17
Quote: Originally Posted by Walter View Post

Hoid = Avro =Troll

Walter setting the white nationalist party line as usual
 
Walter
-1
#18
Quote: Originally Posted by bill barilko View Post

[youtube]cRcm8fFqRLU[/youtube]

‘Narcissist’ Musk berated for pushing ‘impractical’ mini-sub on Thai cave rescuers

Elon Musk is being ridiculed online for his highly-publicized attempts to help rescue the trapped Thai boys in a music-playing mini-submarine – which local authorities deemed “impractical.”

Thai Navy SEALs have just completed the monumental three-day rescue mission to guide 12 boys and their 25-year-old coach to safety from deep inside a water-filled, winding cave. However, Tesla and SpaceX CEO Elon Musk appears to be getting a chunk of the praise for the rescue mission – without actually contributing to the efforts.

https://www.rt.com/usa/432480-elon-m...ailand-rescue/

Russia hates capitalism.
 
Torch light
+1
#19
So now all the boys with their coach have been rescued .. and it is wonderful such cooperation of many people from all over the world .. so there is some kindness left among people and some humane feeling and work.
 
Hoid
#20
Quote: Originally Posted by Walter View Post

Russia hates capitalism.

Trump loves Russia
 
taxslave
#21
[QUOTE=Hoid;2636983][url]https://www.cbsnews.com/news/thailand-cave-rescue-former-thai-navy-seal-dead-today-lack-of-oxygen-authorities-2018-07-06/[/

Shitty thing to happen to a diver
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spaminator
#22
Australian medic, last to leave Thai cave, loses dad shortly after
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Published:
July 11, 2018
Updated:
July 11, 2018 7:34 AM EDT
Police man guard a junction for an ambulance believed to be carrying one of the rescued boys from the flooded cave, in the Mae Sai district of Chiang Rai province, northern Thailand, Monday, July 9, 2018.Vincent Thian / AP
The last member of the rescue team to leave the Thai cave, Australian doctor Richard Harris, has lost his father.
Harris’s boss Andrew Peace says in a statement the father had died shortly after the last of the 13 soccer team members was freed from the cave.
Peace says: “This is clearly a time of grief for the Harris family, magnified by the physical and emotional demands of being part of this week’s highly complex and ultimately successful rescue operation.”
Pearce says the anesthetist and experienced cave diver would return to his home in Adelaide city soon. Harris played a part in deciding the order in which the 13 were freed.
Pearce did not say how the father had died and asked for the family’s privacy to be respected.
http://torontosun.com/news/world/aus...-shortly-after
 
spaminator
#23
Thai cave rescue to be made into 'inspirational' film
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Published:
July 11, 2018
Updated:
July 11, 2018 1:48 PM EDT
Chiang Rai Governor Narongsak Osotthanakorn (C) and mission team celebrate after a press conference at a makeshift press centre in Mae Sai district of Chiang Rai province on July 11, 2018. (Ye Aung Thu/Getty Images)
One day after the 12 Thai boys and their coach were rescued from a flooded cave, it’s been revealed the miraculous incident will be made into an “inspirational” film!
Michael Scott, the CEO and co-founder of Pure Flix, lives in Thailand and has been at the scene for several days, taking notes for the upcoming movie.
“The bravery and heroism I’ve witnessed is incredibly inspiring, so, yes, this will be a movie for us,” Scott told The Hollywood Reporter.
As RadarOnline.com readers know, the 12 Thai soccer teens were exploring a remote cave with their 25-year-old coach on June 23 when suddenly heavy rains began to fall, trapping them inside. Family members quickly alerted authorities of their disappearance after they didn’t return home in a few days. Volunteer divers then found them inside the cave and launched a rescue mission which lasted about two weeks and included divers, engineers, police officers, etc.
The boys are now safe in the hospital, receiving treatment after living through such harsh conditions.
Scott told THR that he’s already spoken to several of the 90 volunteer divers, as well as various of the boys’ family members.
“This isn’t just about a movie, it’s about honoring everybody involved, including the soldier who died,” he added, explaining that Sgt. Saman Kunan, the volunteer diver that died in the mission was actually his wife’s friend.
“This was truly a team effort involving Brits, Aussies, Americans and Thais, and the divers told us incredibly stories,” Scott said. “They had less than five meters’ visibility, fought harsh currents and used a buddy system of two divers for each boy rescued. It was a monumental effort.”
The film will be made by the save production team that released God’s Not Dead and Little Women. It will carry a budget of $30 million to $60 million and will be filmed in Thailand.
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/20...made-into-film
http://torontosun.com/entertainment/...irational-film
 
spaminator
+1
#24
Elon Musk’s 'pedo' tweet about Thai cave rescuer and other flame wars may make Tesla investors wary
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Published:
July 17, 2018
Updated:
July 17, 2018 9:00 AM EDT
In a Thursday, June 14, 2018 file photo, Tesla CEO and founder of the Boring Company Elon Musk speaks at a news conference, in Chicago. Kiichiro Sato / AP
Whether it’s investors betting against his stock or reporters or analysts who ask tough questions, Elon Musk has fought back, often around the clock on Twitter.
In the past few months, the Tesla and SpaceX CEO has become a bigger, more snarling presence on social media. But when Musk called a British diver involved in the Thailand cave rescue a pedophile in front of 22.2 million Twitter followers Sunday, he may have gone one tweet too far.
The tweet, later deleted, sent investors away from Tesla stock and could expose the temperamental rocket scientist to a libel suit. In the tweets, Musk strayed from a vigorous defence of his companies into personal insult, with no facts to back it up.
“This has nothing to do with defending Tesla,” said Erik Gordon, a business and law professor at the University of Michigan. “This goes over a line where he can’t claim ‘Well, my big sin is that I go too far in defending the company.”‘
In a TV interview, British diver Vern Unsworth criticized Musk and SpaceX engineers for sending a small submarine to help divers rescue the 12 Thai soccer players and their coach from a flooded cave. The submarine was not used. Unsworth called it a “PR stunt” and said it wouldn’t have worked anyway.
Musk responded with a tweet branding Unsworth a “pedo.” In a second tweet, Musk said he bet the claim was true. Unsworth told CNN he is considering legal action.
A Tesla spokeswoman wouldn’t comment on the tweets.
For the first four months of the year, Musk was averaging around 100 tweets per month. But the tweets spiked to about 400 per month starting in May as Musk was under pressure to raise production of the Model 3 lower-priced electric car, which starts at US$35,000.
As the spike occurred, Musk gained thousands of Twitter followers. He has almost half as many as U.S. President Donald Trump, who likewise attacks his critics with relish on Twitter.
Mark Spiegel, an outspoken hedge fund manager who has been betting on Tesla’s stock falling for years, said the tweets are showing Musk’s fans his true personality.
The company, which has had only two profitable quarters, is deep in debt and will have trouble meeting Musk’s prediction of a profit in the second half of this year, Spiegel said.
“It’s all based around this rabid Elon Musk fan base. Once that fan base starts to see what kind of person they’ve been worshipping, they will turn on you on a dime,” he said.
Spiegel likened Musk to Trump, saying the two men have an “amazing amount of personality defects in common.”
Previous comparisons with Trump have angered Musk. This spring, critic Andrew J. Hawkins tweeted that Musk was transforming into a “media-baiting Trump figure screaming irrationally about fake news.”
Musk responded by lashing out at the media for the Trump comparisons, writing: “Why do you think he got elected in the first place? Because no one believes you any more.”
In his defence, Musk posted on Twitter that leaders of the Thai rescue, in which all the boys and their coach were safely extracted, had asked him to build the mini-sub.
Tesla stock fell nearly 3% Monday to $310.10 even though the broader market was up slightly.
Robert Drechsel, who taught media law at the University of Wisconsin, said if he were Tesla’s attorney, he would advise the CEO to stop tweeting.
“You can’t be doing yourself any favour minimally by creating this kind of a distraction, and at worst raising questions about your credibility,” he said. “I’m certain they wish he would be a more cautious tweeter.”
Big investors are in a difficult spot with Tesla, much as they were with Uber and ousted CEO Travis Kalanick, Gordon said. Like Uber, Tesla and SpaceX were built on their founder’s larger-than-life personality. Tesla is worth more than $52 billion, largely on the promise of Musk’s genius.
Until recently, Twitter and Musk’s personality worked well for Tesla. The company said in its filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission that it doesn’t need to advertise because it gets so much free media attention.
But Musk’s “pedo” comment and his Twitter skirmishes with analysts, reporters and others will make investors wary, Gordon said.
“It’s very dangerous if you just blurt things out,” he said.
http://torontosun.com/news/world/elo...investors-wary

http://abc.go.com/shows/2020/episode...ph-in-thailand
 
spaminator
#25
http://abc.go.com/shows/2020/episode...ph-in-thailand

http://abc.go.com/shows/2020/episode...nd-cave-rescue
 
hunterclail1221
+1
#26
I think it was a great rescue operation--one to remember for years.
 
spaminator
#27
Elon Musk says 'pedo guy' tweet did not suggest British cave diver was a pedophile
Reuters
Published:
September 16, 2019
Updated:
September 16, 2019 6:40 PM EDT
Tesla CEO Elon Musk speaks during the unveiling of the new Tesla Model Y in Hawthorne, California on March 14, 2019. Getty Images
Elon Musk on Monday said he did not intend to accuse a British diver of pedophilia by branding him a “pedo guy” on Twitter, as the Tesla Inc chief executive sought to dismiss a defamation lawsuit.
Musk posted the tweet, for which he later apologized, after Vernon Unsworth accused Musk in a CNN interview of grandstanding by offering to help Unsworth’s diving team rescue 12 boys and their soccer coach from a Thailand cave in July 2018.
Unsworth sued two months later in Los Angeles federal court, saying Musk falsely branded him a pedophile and child rapist, and denying those allegations.
L. Lin Wood, a lawyer for Unsworth, in an interview called his client “a good man whose efforts saved the lives of 13 people,” and said he will reply to Musk’s court filing discussing the tweet in three weeks.
“I’ll keep my powder dry for now, but I can assure you it will be explosive,” he said. He called Musk’s motion “as offensive to the truth as was his original tweet.”
Musk, 48, said “pedo guy” was “a common insult used in South Africa when I was growing up.”
He said the expression was “synonymous with ‘creepy old man’” and used to insult a person’s appearance and demeanor.
“I did not intend to accuse Mr. Unsworth of engaging in acts of pedophilia,” said Musk, who grew up in Pretoria. “In response to his insults in the CNN interview, I meant to insult him back by expressing my opinion that he seemed like a creepy old man.”
Musk also said his “off the record” August 2018 email to a BuzzFeed News reporter to “stop defending child rapists” was based on an aide’s summary of a private investigator’s report on Unsworth, and that he did not then know the statement was false.
Unsworth has said he had shared a house in the Thailand countryside with a 40-year-old woman who owned a nail salon.
The dispute arose after Unsworth told CNN that a mini-submarine offered for the rescue from the Tham Luang Nang Non cave by Musk’s company SpaceX was a “PR stunt” and Musk could “stick his submarine where it hurts.”
In a related court filing, Musk’s lawyers called Unsworth a public figure on matters related to the cave rescue.
They said this required Unsworth to show by clear and convincing evidence that Musk made his statements toward him with “actual malice,” a high standard.
Unsworth is seeking compensatory and punitive damages. A trial is scheduled for Dec. 2.
Musk recently settled a U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission lawsuit over his Twitter use.
The case is Unsworth v Musk, U.S. District Court, Central District of California, No. 18-08048.
http://torontosun.com/news/world/elo...as-a-pedophile
 
spaminator
#28
Elon Musk's defamation trial over 'pedo guy' tweet is narrowed
Reuters
Published:
November 29, 2019
Updated:
November 29, 2019 2:24 PM EST
SpaceX, Tesla and The Boring Company founder Elon Musk attends the 2018 SpaceX Hyperloop Pod Competition, in Hawthorne, Calif., on July 22, 2018.ROBYN BECK / AFP/Getty Images
The British cave explorer who sued Tesla Inc’s Elon Musk for branding him “pedo guy” in a tweet has narrowed his defamation case against the electric car maker’s chief executive, and is no longer seeking damages for an emailed suggestion he might be a child rapist.
Vernon Unsworth, who has denied the allegations, chose to pursue liability and damages claims at a scheduled Dec. 3 negligence trial only for Musk’s tweets allegedly calling him a pedophile, U.S. District Judge Stephen Wilson said in a Wednesday order.
The judge also decided not to split up the trial to assess liability and punitive damages separately because evidence of Musk’s “state of mind” would be similar on both issues, and Musk refused to concede he did not use reasonable care in criticizing Unsworth.
Alex Spiro, a lawyer for Musk, declined to comment on Friday. Unsworth’s lawyer, L. Lin Wood, did not immediately respond to requests for comment.
Wilson issued his order after hearings this week in Los Angeles. Musk is expected to testify at trial.
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The case arose after Unsworth and his diving team gained international renown in July 2018 by rescuing 12 boys and their soccer coach from a Thailand cave.
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Unsworth criticized Musk’s offering a mini-submarine from his SpaceX rocket company to help with the rescue, telling CNN it was a “PR stunt” and that Musk could “stick his submarine where it hurts.”
But he said that did not justify Musk’s July 15, 2018 tweets that he “never saw this British expat guy,” followed by “Sorry pedo guy, you really did ask for it” and, in an alleged clarification, “Bet ya a signed dollar it’s true.”
Wilson said Unsworth chose not to pursue damages claims over later emails by Musk to BuzzFeed News, including that a reporter “stop defending child rapists.”
The judge said Unsworth can use those emails to show Musk’s state of mind behind the July 15 tweets. Musk has apologized for the “pedo guy” comment.
To win, Unsworth must show the tweets were false, Musk did not use reasonable care to determine their truth, and people reasonably understood them to mean Unsworth was a pedophile.
Wilson said he will admit evidence suggesting that Musk might have leaked damaging information about Unsworth to the press, and Unsworth might have sued to capitalize on his fame.
Evidence of Musk’s $20 million civil settlement with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission in 2018 after he tweeted that Tesla had “funding secured” to go private was excluded because it might confuse jurors.
http://torontosun.com/news/world/elo...et-is-narrowed
 
spaminator
#29
Elon Musk testifies his 'pedo guy' tweet not meant to be taken literally
Reuters
Published:
December 3, 2019
Updated:
December 3, 2019 7:45 PM EST
SpaceX owner and Tesla CEO Elon Musk arrives on the red carpet for the automobile awards "Das Goldene Lenkrad" (The golden steering wheel) given by a German newspaper in Berlin, Germany, November 12, 2019. REUTERS/Hannibal Hanschke/File Photo ORG XMIT: FW1Hannibal Hanschke / REUTERS
LOS ANGELES — High-tech entrepreneur Elon Musk testified at his defamation trial on Tuesday that his “pedo guy” Twitter message at the center of the case was not meant to be taken literally and was sent in response to an “unprovoked” insult he received from the man now suing him.
Musk, the billionaire chief executive of electric carmaker Tesla Inc, was the first witness called to the stand in the lawsuit brought against him by a British cave diver who gained fame for his lead role in the rescue of 12 boys and their soccer coach from a flooded cave in Thailand last year.
The diver, Vernon Unsworth, says Musk, also founder of the rocket company SpaceX, falsely labeled him a pedophile on Twitter and should pay punitive and other damages.
The case stems from an offer Musk made to furnish a mini-submarine from SpaceX to assist in the Tham Luang Nang Non cave rescue in July 2018.
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Unsworth told CNN on July 13, 2018, three days after the rescue was successfully completed, that Musk’s offer was a “PR stunt” and that Musk should “stick his submarine where it hurts.”
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Two days later, Musk lashed out at Unsworth in a series of tweets, including one which called the cave diver a “pedo guy.” Musk later apologized for the comment, saying the term was a common insult in South Africa where he grew up.
Unsworth called the slur a lie that has harmed his reputation.
Musk was called to testify by plaintiff’s lawyers after a jury was selected to hear the case and the two sides delivered opening statements.
Musk said he was merely responding in kind to Unsworth’s remarks, a video of which Musk said he watched on Twitter. Those comments were “an unprovoked attack on what was a good-natured attempt to help the kids,” Musk testified. “It was wrong and insulting, and so I insulted him back.”
“I thought he (Unsworth) was just some random creepy guy,” Musk added. “I thought at the time that he was unrelated to the rescue.”
Pressed under questioning by lawyer Lin Wood, Musk testified that he did not mean for his tweet about Unsworth to be taken literally.
“I assume he did not mean to sodomize me with a submarine … Just as I didn’t literally mean he was a pedophile,” he said.
U.S. District Judge Stephen Wilson has explained the case hinges on whether a reasonable person would take Musk’s Twitter statement to mean that he was calling Unsworth a pedophile.
To win the defamation case, Unsworth needs to show that Musk was negligent in publishing a falsehood that clearly identified the plaintiff and caused him harm. “Actual malice” on Musk’s part does not need to be proven because the judge has deemed Unsworth a private individual rather than a public figure.
MUSK’S TWITTER FOLLOWERS
Although the case does not involve Tesla, Musk’s Twitter habits have long been under close scrutiny, with investors and regulators expressing concerns about his tweets.
With 29.8 million followers, Musk’s Twitter account is a major source of publicity for his Palo Alto, California-based electric car company, which does not advertise.
Wood, representing Unsworth, tried to establish that Musk knew he had a high degree of influence with his Twitter followers and the public, and that the veracity of what he said thus carried significant weight.
“People say a lot of things on Twitter that aren’t true,” Musk said.
In an opening statement earlier in the day, lawyer Taylor Wilson, another member of Unsworth’s legal team, said the tweet in question was more than a slip-up, and Musk had no business branding Unsworth a predator “in what should have been one of the proudest moments of his life.”
Musk lawyer Alex Spiro countered that Unsworth did not act after the tweet like a man who suffered because of it.
“The plaintiff is saying he has been horribly damaged, and deserves money,” Spiro said. “He doesn’t.”
http://youtube.com/watch?v=DjpO9O-dqOE
http://torontosun.com/news/world/elo...pedo-guy-tweet
 
spaminator
#30
British cave explorer felt 'branded a pedophile' by Elon Musk tweet
Reuters
Published:
December 4, 2019
Updated:
December 4, 2019 10:14 PM EST
British rescue diver Vernon Unsworth, arrives at US District Court on Dec. 3, 2019 in Los Angeles, Calif. (Apu Gomes/Getty Images)
LOS ANGELES — The British cave explorer suing Elon Musk testified on Wednesday he felt “branded a pedophile” by the billionaire entrepreneur, despite Musk’s assertion that his “pedo guy” tweet at the heart of the defamation case was not meant to be taken literally.
Vernon Unsworth, seeking unspecified damages in his lawsuit against Musk, took the witness stand on the second day of a trial stemming from their public squabble over last year’s rescue of 12 boys and their soccer coach from a flooded cave in Thailand.
Unsworth’s appearance in a packed federal courtroom in Los Angeles came hours after Musk, the chief executive of electric carmaker Tesla Inc and founder of rocket company SpaceX, concluded two days of testimony seeking to minimize his tweets as offhand comments.
But Unsworth, his voice cracking with emotion, said Musk’s remarks about him on Twitter left him feeling “humiliated, ashamed, dirtied.”
“Effectively, from day one, I was given a life sentence without parole. It hurts to talk about it,” Unsworth said.
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After helping coordinate the successful rescue of the soccer team and its coach from Thailand’s Tham Luang Nang Non cave in July 2018, Unsworth in a CNN interview mocked Musk’s offer of a mini-submersible as a “P.R. stunt” and said Musk could “stick his submarine where it hurts.”
Musk, who had traveled to the rescue site to deliver a mini-sub that was never used, has testified he took to Twitter to lash out at Unsworth after seeing the CNN interview because he found Unsworth’s remarks about him to be “extremely rude and contemptuous.”
OFF-THE-CUFF?
Musk apologized from the witness stand and expressed regret several times for his tweets, which he downplayed as “off-the-cuff” retorts he hurriedly wrote in anger and never intended to be taken seriously.
He also insisted in court, as he has before, that he did not believe Unsworth was a pedophile and was not even aware at the time that Unsworth, whom Musk also described then as a “British expat guy who lives in Thailand (sus)” – Twitter jargon for “I suspect” – was related to the cave rescue.
Unsworth, 64, who said he began caving as a hobby in 1971 and splits his time between Britain and Thailand, where he has a Thai girlfriend, said the force of Musk’s Twitter commentary was far from a casual insult.
“When you combine ‘sus’ and ‘ped guy,’ I took it to mean I was being branded a pedophile,” he testified.
Musk, 48, said the term “pedo guy” was a common epithet in South Africa, where he grew up.
“It’s an insult, like saying mother-effer doesn’t actually mean someone having sex with their mother,” he testified, using a sanitized version of a more vulgar expression.
Elon Musk testifies his 'pedo guy' tweet not meant to be taken literally
Elon Musk's defamation trial over 'pedo guy' tweet is narrowed
Musk capped his two-day appearance by acknowledging under questioning that his net worth, mostly from stock holdings in SpaceX and Tesla, ran about $20 billion.
“People think I have a lot of cash. I actually don’t,” he said.
U.S. District Judge Stephen Wilson has said Unsworth’s defamation case hinges on whether a reasonable person would take Musk’s tweets to mean that he was calling Unsworth a pedophile.
To win his lawsuit, Unsworth needs to show that Musk was negligent in publishing a falsehood that clearly identified him and caused him harm. “Actual malice” by Musk does not need to be proven because the judge deemed Unsworth a private individual, not a public figure.
Although the case does not involve Tesla, Musk’s Twitter habits have long been under close scrutiny, with the company’s investors and regulators expressing concerns about his tweets.
With 29.9 million followers, Musk’s social media account is a major source of publicity for the Palo Alto, California-based Tesla, which does not advertise.
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