Canadian Culture

SaintLucifer
#1
There is a Canadian culture? In a multicultural society??? WTF? The only culture Canada ever had was the British culture before Trudeau decided to increase any chance the Liberal Party of Canada had for winning elections by allowing unwanted immigrants into the country. Now this country is a chaotic mess. Disorder reigns here in Canada.

Multiculturalism was devised as a vote-rigging tool by the ruling Liberal Party of Canada under the worst traitor the world has ever seen, one Pierre Elliot Trudeau! It should be abolished immediately!
 
#juan
#2
Take off eh.....you hoser :P
 
Dexter Sinister
#3
Quote: Originally Posted by SaintLucifer

There is a Canadian culture?

Yes there is, and if you have to ask such a question there's no chance you'll understand a longer answer than that.
 
SaintLucifer
#4
Quote: Originally Posted by Dexter Sinister

Quote: Originally Posted by SaintLucifer

There is a Canadian culture?

Yes there is, and if you have to ask such a question there's no chance you'll understand a longer answer than that.

Alright then. I would ask you to explain this Canadian 'culture'. Please go ahead. Learn me.
 
I think not
#5
Oh geez not you again.
 
Dexter Sinister
#6
Quote: Originally Posted by SaintLucifer

Alright then. I would ask you to explain this Canadian 'culture'. Please go ahead. Learn me.

No. I've already concluded from your first post that there's no chance you'll understand it, so you might reasonably have concluded that I'm not prepared to make that effort. Your ignorance is your problem, not mine. You're just a troll.
 
SaintLucifer
#7
Quote: Originally Posted by I think not

Oh geez not you again.

Excuse me?
 
SaintLucifer
#8
Quote: Originally Posted by Dexter Sinister

Quote: Originally Posted by SaintLucifer

Alright then. I would ask you to explain this Canadian 'culture'. Please go ahead. Learn me.

No. I've already concluded from your first post that there's no chance you'll understand it, so you might reasonably have concluded that I'm not prepared to make that effort. Your ignorance is your problem, not mine. You're just a troll.

I ask a simple question so now I am a troll? Wonderful logic.
 
Kreskin
#9
Take out the immigrants and you have more people dying than being born. We need immigrants to exist.

Societies that work the best are the ones you can't peg as culturally this or that. Culture is simply leaning to traditions of certain groups. Aside from QC it isn't an issue. Works well. People get along. Few bigots.
 
tamarin
#10
Well, SL, I am sympathetic to your point of view and I can't possibly believe there exists a Canadian who reviles Pierre Trudeau as much as I. But I might have met him! Multiculturalism is a policy and it's one that has yet to prove itself. It could be our undoing. It also might turn out to be a stroke of genius. But I doubt it. I can only state what the locals here feel in the shadow of Toronto. They overwhelmingly despise a policy that demands Canadians defer to, tolerate and support the establishment of foreign customs as equal to their own. They're not anti-immigrant or anti-Canada. They're just anti the type of thinking in the country since the 70's that has marginalized Canada's past, people and founding institutions and traditions. Being the son of a WWII vet, the grandson of a WWI vet and raised in the heyday of a strong, vibrant and promising Canada, I'm partial to their views.
 
notme01
#11
. They overwhelmingly despise a policy that demands Canadians defer to, tolerate and support the establishment of foreign customs as equal to their own. They're not anti-immigrant or anti-Canada.

that is right immigrant should be allowed in Canadahould adapt to our ways not us to their's

imagine going to let say India and try to do the things that we are custom to do in Canada and make the India people follow our customs by law

do u think it would work ?
 
Dexter Sinister
#12
Quote: Originally Posted by SaintLucifer

I ask a simple question so now I am a troll? Wonderful logic.

Well, at least it's better logic than yours. If you'd ended your first post after the first sentence, that would have been a simple question. But you packed ignorant, inflammatory statements in after it, implicitly blamed immigrants for what you claim is the complete chaos of Canada, and libelled one of our prime ministers in a way that would be legally actionable if you published it, without offering any evidence or reason for your extreme views. That makes you a troll.
 
tamarin
#13
There is a huge in-house propaganda machine working full-time to support and embed multiculturalism in Canada. Kinda reminds me of the antics of the Jewish Defense League. There was a time, not long ago, in Canada when anything testy about Israel in the press was met with instant condemnation and reproach by the JDL and its affiliates. The shine's off the pumpkin now. Likewise, I increasingly see articles and columns in the Canadian press that cast doubts on multiculturalism's long term merits and prospects. Most folks about here still insist- if it's our country why don't we have a real say in what's happening to it?
 
Kreskin
#14
What countries are uni-cultural. You like them?
 
tamarin
#15
I like countries that stand up for their traditions. That honour their past. That believe implicitly that there's value in both. There is room for difference in every nation but before you can allow for difference you have to know who you are. What you stand for. What you believe in. The greatest danger in Canada's flirtation with multiculturalism is in the small size of its founding people's populations. There is such a thing as critical mass. We've already seen instances in Canada of newcomers demanding privilege once their population number leads them to be bold. Canadian politicians and policy makers have set the country on a dangerous course. There are red flags all over the place. How many do we need before we do some serious rethinking?
 
Kreskin
#16
No privileges in Afghanistan or Pakistan.
 
SaintLucifer
#17
Quote: Originally Posted by tamarin

I like countries that stand up for their traditions. That honour their past. That believe implicitly that there's value in both. There is room for difference in every nation but before you can allow for difference you have to know who you are. What you stand for. What you believe in. The greatest danger in Canada's flirtation with multiculturalism is in the small size of its founding people's populations. There is such a thing as critical mass. We've already seen instances in Canada of newcomers demanding privilege once their population number leads them to be bold. Canadian politicians and policy makers have set the country on a dangerous course. There are red flags all over the place. How many do we need before we do some serious rethinking?

Canada should be standing up to our traditions, those being the traditions of our founders - the British. You mention the small size of the population of said founding people. That would be thanks to the abolition of immigration for white people. It is only non-white immigrants who are being granted admission into Canada. Why? It is time the immigration laws were changed. I do recall reading about those Asians and Southeast Asians complaining that Canada is not letting enough of them in. It is time British-Canadians did the very same. I say we of British descent raise our voices and make ourselves hear at the ballot boxes! I say we create a new reformist party to advance the British culture here in Canada after all it was our people who founded this country.
 
Kreskin
#18
Have all the traditions you want. Why stop others from theirs?
 
SaintLucifer
#19
Quote: Originally Posted by Kreskin

Have all the traditions you want. Why stop others from theirs?

I will tell you why. China? Boxer Rebellion? India? Ghandi? Does this ring a bell? Why do I not see any little British neighbourhoods in China? In India? Why did so many nations seek to kick out the British colonials? I find it odd when the British colonised countries this was called evil imperialism yet when the immigrants from non-white countries arrive upon our doorstep it is called immigration . What exactly is the difference between the two? When my people immigrated to those colonies we were deemed evil yet we have the Chinese, Indians etc. settling into Canada as good immigrants . Why were we bad and they are good? I fail to understand this.
 
SaintLucifer
#20
Quote: Originally Posted by notme01

. They overwhelmingly despise a policy that demands Canadians defer to, tolerate and support the establishment of foreign customs as equal to their own. They're not anti-immigrant or anti-Canada.

that is right immigrant should be allowed in Canadahould adapt to our ways not us to their's

imagine going to let say India and try to do the things that we are custom to do in Canada and make the India people follow our customs by law

do u think it would work ?

Precisely my point.
 
SaintLucifer
#21
Quote: Originally Posted by Dexter Sinister

Quote: Originally Posted by SaintLucifer

I ask a simple question so now I am a troll? Wonderful logic.

Well, at least it's better logic than yours. If you'd ended your first post after the first sentence, that would have been a simple question. But you packed ignorant, inflammatory statements in after it, implicitly blamed immigrants for what you claim is the complete chaos of Canada, and libelled one of our prime ministers in a way that would be legally actionable if you published it, without offering any evidence or reason for your extreme views. That makes you a troll.

Quote:

libelled one of our prime ministers in a way that would be legally actionable if you published it

You sir are an idiot. Newspaper columnists did this on a daily basis. Please refrain from making stupid statements. Thank you.
 
Kreskin
#22
I wouldn't move to the far east if my life depended on it. I'm not interested in trying to adapt to a society that sticks it's head in the sand. I'm not interested in Canada going back to the stone age, like many of those societies.
 
SaintLucifer
#23
Quote: Originally Posted by Kreskin

I wouldn't move to the far east if my life depended on it. I'm not interested in trying to adapt to a society that sticks it's head in the sand. I'm not interested in Canada going back to the stone age, like many of those societies.

Yet some Canadians did go to the Far East. The result? Massive expulsions. Yet we are the racists. ????
 
Kreskin
#24
If we want cultures around the world to be more tolerant of us and each other, I suggest we don't mimick their stupidity. Lead by example, not by the actions of cave dwellers.
 
SaintLucifer
#25
Quote: Originally Posted by Kreskin

If we want cultures around the world to be more tolerant of us and each other, I suggest we don't mimick their stupidity. Lead by example, not by the actions of cave dwellers.

Why? So they may laugh at us as multiculuralism rots Canada to the core? 17 'Canadians' were arrested for planning to destroy portions of Canada. You may thank multiculturalism for this. Had Islam been banned from Canada this would never have happened. Protection of the State should take precedence over granting rights to groups who do not belong here.
 
Kreskin
#26
Multiculturalism or banning Islam? Ya, I can clearly see how we'd stop the terrorists with that one.
 
SaintLucifer
#27
Quote: Originally Posted by Kreskin

Multiculturalism or banning Islam? Ya, I can clearly see how we'd stop the terrorists with that one.

Why not? It is most difficult to commit atrocities on Canadian soil if they are not in Canada to being with yes? Ban multiculturalism and we ban them from Canada forever.

To continue with multiculturalism would be to continue Canada's destruction as a sovereign state.
 
Twila
#28
Quote:

Canada should be standing up to our traditions, those being the traditions of our founders - the British.

Are we only going to go that far? What about the Natives. Can they have their traditions upheld as part of Canadian culture? (truely asking, not meant to be inflammatory)

Could multiculturalism not be considered a form of evolution? The strongest culture survives and the weakest fades away?
 
Kreskin
#29
Good point. Survival of the fittest.
 
SaintLucifer
#30
Quote: Originally Posted by Twila

Quote:

Canada should be standing up to our traditions, those being the traditions of our founders - the British.

Are we only going to go that far? What about the Natives. Can they have their traditions upheld as part of Canadian culture? (truely asking, not meant to be inflammatory)

Could multiculturalism not be considered a form of evolution? The strongest culture survives and the weakest fades away?

I had been thinking about that one as I was uncertain. On the one hand the 'natives' are a conquered people but on the other hand this is originally their land. I have made a decision.

I would suggest the natives absolutely be allowed to keep their traditions as I consider them to be part of Canadian history. They were allies many times to my British ancestors and as such are worthy of keeping their culture. They did assist us in our war against the belligerent Americans who sought to aid Canada to their territory. It is my belief that without native assistance we would not have defeated the Americans as easily as we did. In summation I say yes, let them keep their culture as long as they do not keep making continually ridiculous demands as they did in Caledonia and Oka. Enough of that crap. We will be glad to talk with you but do not hold our country hostage.

Multiculturalism? A form of evolution? Never. Look no further than the former Yugoslavia. All those different ethnic groups living in peace. That was one truly multicultural nation. There is one major catch though. They were kept at peace through force. Communist aggression made certain Serbs did not go around killing Muslims and vice versa. Tito had ruled that state with a mailed fist. As we have no intention of ruling that way here multiculturalism would never work.

It is your belief under multiculturalism only the strong would survive. That is incorrect in a nation run the way Canada is. Original Canadians (whites of British and French descent) have given the non-white groups carte-blanche to grow as they wish. As a result their birth rates are greater than our own. Their numbers are climbing at alarming rates. They have a government bent on given them preferential treatment when it comes to jobs (see the recent RCMP drive for new recruits from the Southeast Asian community by playing baseball games with them etc. all at the expense of the white community). I had a friend who had a neighbour in the RCMP. He told the story of how many possible recruits were asked to complete written test and to complete physicals. Every single black male failed every test. Every single Chinese person failed. They were still admitted. The recruitment criteria for the RCMP was changed to accomodate the shorter Chinese people. It used to be that you had better be over 6' tall. This criteria was stricken from the list. Now we have Chinese RCMP officers who can barely reach 5'3". Would you want someone like that to come save you from a robbery? My friend's neighbour also told of being forced by the federal government to toss into the garbage all applications from white people at his precinct. All of them! Why? They were on a hiring drive to hire members from visible minorities.

Due to the aforementioned happenstances how are we of British descent expected to 'survive' as part of your survival of the fittest scenario when those visible minorities are given so many advantages?
 

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