NFL Suspension: Ray Rice


Kreskin
#1
The video evidence.

New video shows Ray Rice punch fianceé - CNN.com Video
 
gopher
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#2
The NFL has now announced Rice's contract has been terminated and he is banned by the league.

While the league should take corrective action but sports in general should apply a uniform standard. On another forum we discussed how Hope Solo who has a history of domestic violence was not suspended by the women's pro soccer league nor from the US National womens team. She, like Rice, should have the same league imposed sanction. Otherwise this will be a reverse sexist double standard and nobody who is fair minded wants any of that.
 
IdRatherBeSkiing
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Quote: Originally Posted by gopher View Post

The NFL has now announced Rice's contract has been terminated and he is banned by the league.

While the league should take corrective action but sports in general should apply a uniform standard. On another forum we discussed how Hope Solo who has a history of domestic violence was not suspended by the women's pro soccer league nor from the US National womens team. She, like Rice, should have the same league imposed sanction. Otherwise this will be a reverse sexist double standard and nobody who is fair minded wants any of that.

Correction, NFL suspeded him, Ravens released him.

This caught the NFL with their pants down with no policy in place. To their credit, they have since created one.
 
Tecumsehsbones
#4
As a fan of the team affected (I own a Ray Rice jersey), I have to say this is fair.

They already suspended him for two games and fined him three games' pay before this video came out. Hereabouts some folk are talking about "double jeopardy." Nonsense. The NFL isn't the government, and you have no right to make millions of dollars running around in colourful tights. The NFL made the wrong decision before, and put it right.

I would have expected Goodell to come up with some lame "The case has already been decided, and we can't go back on that." It's refreshing that he showed some sense for once.
 
wulfie68
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#5
Quote: Originally Posted by IdRatherBeSkiing View Post

To their credit, they have since created one.

Lets be real here: this isn't about a culture change for the NFL and its athletes, this is about protecting the logo of the most powerful marketing machine in North America. Goodell and the NFL could have taken a strong stand at the outset of this, but to their shame did not. Don't get me wrong, I don't think any other major sporting league would either: there have been numerous hockey players (including Patrick Roy) charged with domestic violence crimes over the years and we tend to ignore them. This case just became too difficult to ignore/downplay.
 
IdRatherBeSkiing
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Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

As a fan of the team affected (I own a Ray Rice jersey), I have to say this is fair.

They already suspended him for two games and fined him three games' pay before this video came out. Hereabouts some folk are talking about "double jeopardy." Nonsense. The NFL isn't the government, and you have no right to make millions of dollars running around in colourful tights. The NFL made the wrong decision before, and put it right.

I would have expected Goodell to come up with some lame "The case has already been decided, and we can't go back on that." It's refreshing that he showed some sense for once.

The Ravens reversed their support of Ray by claiming that they had been fed a much softer version of what happened. The NFL has also claimed to have asked for videos and stuff from law enforcement but has not received it (I think there would be a breach of privacy and disclosure laws if they were given it). So if you believe them, and there is no reason at this point not to, they believed their player and were embarrased by him when it turned out to be unwarrented.

The release is not punishment as well. That is the Ravens deciding they want nothing more to do with him. Perfectly legal to do to any player at any time.
 
Tecumsehsbones
+1
#7
Quote: Originally Posted by wulfie68 View Post

Lets be real here: this isn't about a culture change for the NFL and its athletes, this is about protecting the logo of the most powerful marketing machine in North America.

Of course it is. Is this a surprise?

Quote:

Goodell and the NFL could have taken a strong stand at the outset of this, but to their shame did not. Don't get me wrong, I don't think any other major sporting league would either: there have been numerous hockey players (including Patrick Roy) charged with domestic violence crimes over the years and we tend to ignore them. This case just became too difficult to ignore/downplay.

As an entertainment organisation, their mission is to reflect the values of their audience. Just like Disney with it's non-white heroes and strong girls lately. The NFL exists to make money, and does so by keeping the chumps comfortable and distracted. If anything, it's evidence of some small progress by our society.
 
Goober
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#8
NFL won’t be able to buy its way out of Ray Rice debacle | National Post

The assault occurred seven months ago, in an elevator of a casino in Atlantic City.

A casino. In Atlantic City.

Visibility: very high. Chances of not being caught on surveillance camera when you put your wife’s lights out with a left hook: very slim.

If it had been Joe Public assaulting Mrs. Public, or Joe knocking out his girlfriend or mistress, or pretty much any other female member of the human race, the police would have had the CCTV video within five minutes of opening the investigation.

Open-and-shut case.
 
Retired_Can_Soldier
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#9
The scumbag should be in jail.
 
spaminator
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JLM
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#11
The guy's a thug!
 
Tecumsehsbones
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#12
No, the guy's a person. He has been very active in anti-bullying charities, and put in more hours of charity work and community service than any other Raven.

Not defending him. His act was inexcusable, and no amount of good works can balance it out. It's up to him now to repair himself and his relationship (however that's done), and get on with his life, as something other than a front man or role model. That's the price of his act.
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

No, the guy's a person. He has been very active in anti-bullying charities, and put in more hours of charity work and community service than any other Raven.

Not defending him. His act was inexcusable, and no amount of good works can balance it out. It's up to him now to repair himself and his relationship (however that's done), and get on with his life, as something other than a front man or role model. That's the price of his act.


O.K. I should have said "acted like a thug". Rehabilitation is likely possible!
 
Tecumsehsbones
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Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

O.K. I should have said "acted like a thug". Rehabilitation is likely possible!

Agreed.
 
EagleSmack
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Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

O.K. I should have said "acted like a thug". Rehabilitation is likely possible!

I think your post was right on.
 
Retired_Can_Soldier
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Why is the guy not a thug. He beat his lady unconscious. Is it because of his celebrity? Anyone that hits a woman is a thug. And F his rehabilitation.
 
#juan
#17
We'll see how long his celebrity lasts now that he no longer gets big money to run with a football. I doubt if his "fiancee" will hang around either. She was probably gone as soon as she woke up. Wouldn't blame her.
 
Tecumsehsbones
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Quote: Originally Posted by Retired_Can_Soldier View Post

Why is the guy not a thug. He beat his lady unconscious. Is it because of his celebrity? Anyone that hits a woman is a thug. And F his rehabilitation.

Asked and answered.
 
skookumchuck
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#19
Everyone needs to watch that video again and discuss ALL you really see. Now hop off the bandwagon.
 
IdRatherBeSkiing
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Quote: Originally Posted by #juan View Post

We'll see how long his celebrity lasts now that he no longer gets big money to run with a football. I doubt if his "fiancee" will hang around either. She was probably gone as soon as she woke up. Wouldn't blame her.

She is now married to him and defending him on social media. Says media has been too harsh on him. Go figure.
 
JLM
#21
Quote: Originally Posted by #juan View Post

We'll see how long his celebrity lasts now that he no longer gets big money to run with a football. I doubt if his "fiancee" will hang around either. She was probably gone as soon as she woke up. Wouldn't blame her.


Nope, she married him since then! -
 
Nuggler
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#22
Fust o'all, they appeared high.

She takes a swing at him in front of the "lifts".............
On the lift, she comes at him
And holy Jesus, does he ever deck her
Left hook that came from nowhere
You see the punch.
I didn't
Out cold.

Hey, two kids out partying, and it went wrong.
Who gives a ****.?
Now he's gotta get a job.
 
#juan
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Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

Nope, she married him since then! -

That goes to show, that she is about as smart as he is.
 
JLM
#24
Quote: Originally Posted by #juan View Post

That goes to show, that she is about as smart as he is.


Some people just thrive on misery.
 
EagleSmack
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#25
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

Some people just thrive on misery.

Being married to an NFL star with all the money and luxuries that comes with it helps.
 
JLM
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#26
Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmack View Post

Being married to an NFL star with all the money and luxuries that comes with it helps.


Yep, nothing like being miserable in comfort!
 
EagleSmack
+1
#27
Time for Roger G. to step down. He knew of the vicious upper cut all along.
 
Zipperfish
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#28
Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

No, the guy's a person.


"Person: and "thug" are not mutually exclusive.

People don't change. Once a bully, always a bully.
 
Goober
#29
Longer version of Ray Rice video shows argument before punch, reaction of hotel staff | National Post

ATLANTIC CITY, N.J. — Ray Rice and Janay Palmer can be heard shouting obscenities at each other, and she appears to spit in the face of the three-time Pro Bowl running back right before he throws a brutal punch in a video shown to The Associated Press by a law enforcement official.

The video, shown to the AP Monday night, includes audio and is longer than the grainy TMZ Sports video released earlier that day. After the TMZ video made its way around the Internet, the Baltimore Ravens cut Rice and the league suspended him indefinitely. Rice was originally suspended for two games and coaches and others had praised his behaviour since the arrest for striking his then-fiancee in February.

The videos show Rice and Palmer in an elevator at an Atlantic City casino. Each hits the other before Rice knocks Palmer off her feet and into a railing. Months ago, a TMZ video showed Rice dragging Palmer, now his wife, from the elevator at the Revel casino, which closed on Sept. 2.

The higher-quality video shown to the AP shows Rice made no attempt to cover up the incident. After Palmer collapses, he drags her out of the elevator and is met by some hotel staff. One of them can be heard saying, “She’s drunk, right?” And then, “No cops.” But Rice didn’t respond.
 
Grievous
#30
Didn't she marry this guy?


Seems they made up, it's in the past.
 

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