Is Canada ready for the coming electric vehicle revolution?


Hoid
#1201
Ya any gas f150 can pull a million pounds easy.
 
Curious Cdn
#1202
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

Ya any gas f150 can pull a million pounds easy.

we have a Ford assembly plant literally two kilometers away from here and a lot of the line worker buy Fords because they get good deals on them. We see and hear supercharged F150s blasting up the plant entrance road.

Motor heads.

Holy crap.

They sound like those old radial engines in big Yankee WWII fighter aircraft.
 
spilledthebeer
#1203
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

Electric is not all it's cracked to be.




Oh that DEPENDS on your point of view!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


If you re an ordinary tax payer and regular commuter.......................................... ...


then LIE-beral electric TOYS are a costly DISASTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But if you are a LIE-beral.................................


then the electric TOYS ARE WONDERFUL THINGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Just THINK of all the BENEFITS TO LIE-berals that such TOYS can PROVIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !


First the age of the average gas powered car on our roads is over 11YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But by the TEN YEAR MARK an electric TOY car battery has LOST AT LEAST FIFTY PERCENT .............................


of its charge holding capacity and range........................................


meaning the ten year old TOY IS NOW VIRTUALLY USELESS...........................................


its SHORT RANGE that is INADEQUATE RIGHT OUT OF THE FACTORY...............................


will be FURTHER REDUCED...................................


BY RAPIDLY CRIPPLING AGE AND CDN COLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!



UNLESS YOU PAY huge money for ANOTHER COSTLY BATTERY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And that assumes that "PLANNED OBSOLESCENCE" is not blocking you..........................................



meaning WILL YOUR BATTERY still be IN STOCK in ten years??????????????????????


One has only to look at the number of computerized electronic sensors that are NO LONGER AVAILABLE..............................


for gas powered cars to..............................................



recognize car companies LOVE planned obsolescence...................................... ...


because it FORCES OLDER VEHICLES OFF THE ROAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals ARE DESPERATE FOR MORE GRAVY.........................................


and the chance to COMPEL YOU to replace your car way more frequently than you want to..........................


will pay MULTIPLE DIVIDENDS TO LIE-berals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


There would be SALES TAX if you bought a new battery for your toy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Abd he cost of the battery IS MORE than the money spent on maintenance for a gas car in ten years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Or there would be SALES TAX if you gave in and bought a new TOY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And you would NOT have needed to replace your ten year old gas car!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



There will be INCOME TAX from all the electricians installing the chargers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And there will be all sorts of sales tax on the charger parts and sales!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And MORE TAXES on the CONSTANT REPAIR of the SHODDY chargers LIE-berals have bought......................................


and are roughly installing AT TAX PAYER EXPENSE...........................................


for the dubious benefit of a PRIVILEGED FEW TOY owning LIE-beral PALS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



BEST OF ALL..................................


from the LIE-beral point of view...................................


forcing us ALL to drive electric TOY vehicles........................................


means that LIE-berals would be LEGALLY ABLE to snatch away ALL THE REVENUE.................................


that currently flows to oil companies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!


And LIE-berals would be able to KEEP THAT REVENUE FOR THEMSELVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !


Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


If LIE-berals can force us to buy electric TOYS............................................


just think of all the COSTLY electricity that they can sell to TOY OWNERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And JUST THINK of all the PRICE GOUGING that HYDRO HOGS can indulge in...................................


robbing their CAPTIVE AUDIENCE of TOY owners BLIND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


As it stands now.......................................


the price of oil DOES FLUCTUATE A LITTLE as various pressures affect the markets...................................


but the price of electricity NEVER FLUCTUATES.....................................


UNLESS LIE-berals are SCREWING WITH IT FOR THEIR PROFIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The LIE-beral promotion of electric TOY cars.............................................. ...


is THE WORST AND MOST DECEITFUL of ALL disgraced LIE-beral policies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
JLM
#1204
Quote: Originally Posted by spilledthebeer View Post

Oh that DEPENDS on your point of view!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


If you re an ordinary tax payer and regular commuter.......................................... ...


then LIE-beral electric TOYS are a costly DISASTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But if you are a LIE-beral.................................


then the electric TOYS ARE WONDERFUL THINGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Just THINK of all the BENEFITS TO LIE-berals that such TOYS can PROVIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !


First the age of the average gas powered car on our roads is over 11YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


For once you are starting to make a little sense...…………………….Good man!
 
spilledthebeer
#1205
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

Ya any gas f150 can pull a million pounds easy.


Oh hemerHOID..................................


DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE there was not.............................




an advertising GIMMICK IN THAT COMMERCIAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Are YOU THAT GULLIBLE???????????????????????????????


Take it from the guy who DROVE a 4 X 4..............................


if you anchor a truck to such a weight......................................


the wheels would just SPIN.............................................


The little thing called TRACTION...............................


is a BIG LIMIT on what can REALLY be pulled!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The ENDLESS PILES of Fake News spewed .................


by LIE-berals like hemerHOID are the BIGGEST



IMPEDIMENT to any acceptance of any LIE-beral policy!!!!!!!
 
Hoid
#1206
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

we have a Ford assembly plant literally two kilometers away from here and a lot of the line worker buy Fords because they get good deals on them. We see and hear supercharged F150s blasting up the plant entrance road.
Motor heads.
Holy crap.
They sound like those old radial engines in big Yankee WWII fighter aircraft.

the 150 ev is faster than any of those dinocars
What can a Ford pull? With those ancient gassers and diesels?



Here's a GM chart.

The ev just pulled a million pounds with a pickup truck wheelbase.

25,000 vs 1,000,000

That is the sort of technological advance we are talking about.
 
spilledthebeer
#1207
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

the 150 ev is faster than any of those dinocars
What can a Ford pull? With those ancient gassers and diesels?



Here's a GM chart.

The ev just pulled a million pounds with a pickup truck wheelbase.

25,000 vs 1,000,000

That is the sort of technological advance we are talking about.






Oh YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!


LIE-berals LOVE their charts............................................ ....


and their numbers...........................................


that can be made to SAY ANYTHING.....................................


ON PAPER......................................


WITHOUT the burden of real life FACTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


HemerHOID LOVES LIE-beral electric TOYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And he DEMANDS WE ALL RUN OUT AND BUY ONE.......................................



for the GREATER GOOD............................................


of LIE-beral party and its civil service union HOG ALLIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !


But hemerHOID DOES NOT ACTUALLY OWN AN ELECTRIC TOY CAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


HemerHOID is a MAJOR HYPOCRITE......................................... ..........


and a TRAITOR to the LIE-beral cause!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!


LIE-beral values and morals on LOATHSOME DISPLAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


AS usual!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
MHz
#1208
Maybe we should start with the electric chair and reserve it for Politicians that commit treason and Bankers who are loyal to the banks and not the country they are in.
 
Curious Cdn
#1209
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

the 150 ev is faster than any of those dinocars
What can a Ford pull? With those ancient gassers and diesels?

Here's a GM chart.
The ev just pulled a million pounds with a pickup truck wheelbase.
25,000 vs 1,000,000
That is the sort of technological advance we are talking about.

... infinite torque ...

Tuff gize don't like that sissy engineering stuff.

They like good old, down home VVRRROOOOM! VVRRROOOOM! because most of them are man children.
 
MHz
#1210

this is a 450 series rather than a 'pickup'


2019 Ford Super Duty F-450 DRWKing Ranch 4WD Crew Cab 8' BoxSpecs

2019 Ford Super Duty F-450 DRWKing Ranch 4WD Crew Cab 8' Box








Specs
N/A

Combined MPG

6.7

Engine (L)

4WD

Drivetrain

5

Passengers

450

Horsepower

N/A

Cargo Space FT³



Performance Specifications



Engine
6.7L 4V OHV POWER STROKE V8 TURBO DIESEL B20


Horsepower
450 @ 2800 RPM


Torque
935 @ 1800 RPM


Max Towing Capacity
21,000 lbs


Drivetrain
Four Wheel Drive


Transmission
Torqshift 6-Speed Automatic


Fuel Tank Capacity, Approx
48 gal


EPA Fuel Economy Est (MPG)
MPG estimates not available
 
JLM
#1211
Quote: Originally Posted by The Left View Post

Did play hockey but it was long time since.


Now, there's a scholarly conversation!
 
Curious Cdn
#1212
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

Now, there's a scholarly conversation!

I just watched an episode of Corner Gas and I can see you fitting right it.
 
MHz
#1213
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

I just watched an episode of Corner Gas and I can see you fitting right it.

You belong on Beavis and Butthead.
 
spilledthebeer
#1214
Quote: Originally Posted by MHz View Post

Maybe we should start with the electric chair and reserve it for Politicians that commit treason and Bankers who are loyal to the banks and not the country they are in.




How about we offer FREE electro shock therapy..........................................


to confused Muslim religious NUTBARS..........................................


who think all the troubles of the world...................................


are to be blamed on JEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!


NO MORE LSD for you MHz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



 
Hoid
#1215
https://jalopnik.com/porsche-says-th...911-1836835500

Porsche Says the Electric Taycan Will Outsell the 911

Porsche has already taken about 30,000 pre-orders for its all-electric sports sedan. The car has not yet been seen in final production specification, but simply the idea of an electric Porsche has people all over the world champing at the bit to get in line for one. The car won’t even be shown until September’s Frankfurt show, but Porsche has already increased scheduled production output for the sedan to 40,000 units annually in preparation for the surge.

Porsche set an initial target of 20,000 units, bumped that to 30,000 a few months ago, and has now further increased the number due to demand for the car. Porsche currently sells about 35,000 911s per year.
 
JLM
#1216
I doubt if electric vehicles should be a serious consideration for the next 10 years...………………...if then. My philosophy is if something works leave well enough alone. IF after 10 or 15 years there is an indication they are an improvement...………..go for it. Let the dummies wade in until the wrinkles are ironed out.
 
Curious Cdn
#1217
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

I doubt if electric vehicles should be a serious consideration for the next 10 years...………………...if then. My philosophy is if something works leave well enough alone. IF after 10 or 15 years there is an indication they are an improvement...………..go for it. Let the dummies wade in until the wrinkles are ironed out.

So, no sale to you.

Do you reckon that others should be actively discouraged from buying "electric"? ... or is it up to individual consumers how they spend their money?
 
Hoid
#1218
its up to every white natty to be afraid of EVs
 
JLM
#1219
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

its up to every white natty to be afraid of EVs


"Leery" is a better word!
 
Hoid
#1220
I would say "uneducated"
 
DaSleeper
#1221
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

I would say "uneducated"

Do you own one, an E V, or are you just blowing hot air?
 
JLM
#1222
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

So, no sale to you.

Do you reckon that others should be actively discouraged from buying "electric"? ... or is it up to individual consumers how they spend their money?


"You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink".
 
spilledthebeer
#1223
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

... infinite torque ...

Tuff gize don't like that sissy engineering stuff.

They like good old, down home VVRRROOOOM! VVRRROOOOM! because most of them are man children.




Oh its a lovely chart..........................................


and has WAY LESS truth and utility..................................


than ANY EPA FUEL CONSUMPTION "FACTS" ............


ever produced for gas powered vehicles!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


A million pounds!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Apparently Comrade Curious and hemerHOID have



confused POUNDS................................


WITH GRAMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
spilledthebeer
#1224
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

I would say "uneducated"




"White natty" is a phrase............................................ ......


hemerHOID STOLE someplace......................................


and continues to use.....................................


because he aint EDUCATED enough........................................


to come up with his own ideas.........................................


on anything!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!


This is why he so slavishly repeats.........................................


LIE-beral policy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!

 
Hoid
#1225
Harley Davidson is attempting to revive their failing business by introducing the Livewire.


0-60 in 3 seconds.

Although this bike is probably worth every penny of the $30K they want for it I kind of doubt many old men are going to want to strap one of these on.

They prefer to putt around on the gasser models like it was 1969.

This is an interesting move in that it needs to draw in a new young demographic and the young demographic don't generally want to spend $30K on a bike.

It has to work or Harley is dead.

I cannot remember that last time I saw a Harley rumbling down the road without a grey haired old guy on top of it.
 
MHz
+1
#1226
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

I doubt if electric vehicles should be a serious consideration for the next 10 years...………………...if then. My philosophy is if something works leave well enough alone. IF after 10 or 15 years there is an indication they are an improvement...………..go for it. Let the dummies wade in until the wrinkles are ironed out.

Along with that there should be parts that are interchangeable rather than the design is changed 1% just so it become useless a few years down the road. ie a car rim should fit any car that is the same size no matter how many different 'companies' there are.
Last edited by MHz; Aug 3rd, 2019 at 06:30 AM..
 
MHz
#1227
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

They prefer to putt around on the gasser models like it was 1969.

This is an interesting move in that it needs to draw in a new young demographic and the young demographic don't generally want to spend $30K on a bike.

Only baby-boomers have that kind of money for a part-time ride. The sales will go to collectors who just store them and say they are increasing in value. BTW most old time riders are getting around in wheelchairs because of the insistence a 'hard-tail' was 'more manly than something with a suspension.
 
JLM
#1228
How do we know we will be able to afford electricity? What will be the additional costs in terms of inundated land and habitat?
 
MHz
#1229
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

How do we know we will be able to afford electricity? What will be the additional costs in terms of inundated land and habitat?

They want the money. It will be just a fluke that welfare just manages to take care of the utilities, the rent and a few stale crackers to gnaw on. Welcome to your new world.
 
Hoid
#1230
https://cleantechnica.com/2019/08/01...rs-production/

Mexican company aiming for a 2020 debut of their all electric Thalia.

They are saying it will cost $18,000