where are our Media ?


petros
+1
#31
Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh View Post

Ya, so. What's that got to do with you dumb asses saying they are going to nationalize resources.

Watch for a PUSH to...

push
/po͝oSH/
(Noun)
2.
a vigorous effort to do or obtain something.
"many clubs are joining in the fund-raising push"

Going to and pushing for are the same?
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
+3
#32
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

The opposite is going to happen, there will be a shitload of new Parks that block access. Oil and Gas in the ground will be used as collateral along with the new Parklands.
It's a WWF tactic. If you hunt, you know how they blocked access to Crown land in SK. They did it to Parts of Porcupine FFS. Shand/Alameda was funded by locking up trillions of CBM of gas under Grasslands National.
Kind in mind who was with WWF before the PMO.

We seen that play out in Alberta under the last NDP Gov. cancelled and bought out exploration permits, declared a park and claimed tourism will be more profitable than resource extraction including logging.


Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh View Post

They can't nationalize resource extraction. That is under provincial jurisdiction. It is in the constitution. They would have to open the constitution , amend it, and get provincial approval. None of the provinces are going to give away their resources to the feds. It's not going to happen.

If they purchase the rights through buying out company's that are teetering on bankruptcy in the name of national interest, they directly negotiate with the Provinces over royalties and resource rights no? Also by taking over the NEB they can regulate resource companies right out of existence, we are seeing some of it in the Pipeline industry under their Environment and safety concerns costing facility owners Millions of extra costs that can't be simply passed on to the consumers.
 
pgs
Free Thinker
+3
#33
Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh View Post

Ya, so. What's that got to do with you dumb asses saying they are going to nationalize resources.

Hey Gerry you are the dumb ass . Quit trying to accuse others of your short comings .
 
Blackleaf
+1
#34
What really pisses me off about the media during all this nonsense is when the TV news or the newspapers tell us to stay at home whilst they themselves are working.

Cheeky f*ckers need a slap.
Last edited by Blackleaf; Apr 27th, 2020 at 12:56 PM..
 
pgs
Free Thinker
#35
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

What really pisses me off about the media during all this nonsense is when the TV news or the newspapers tell us to stay at home whilst they themselves are working.

Donít forget to wash your hands . And clean behind your ears .
 
DaSleeper
+1
#36
Quote: Originally Posted by pgs View Post

Donít forget to wash your hands . And clean behind your ears .

He should probably clean his ear wax....he doesn't hear too good!
 
petros
+2
#37
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

What really pisses me off about the media during all this nonsense is when the TV news or the newspapers tell us to stay at home whilst they themselves are working.

Working from home.
 
gerryh
+3
#38
Quote: Originally Posted by Twin_Moose View Post

If they purchase the rights through buying out company's that are teetering on bankruptcy in the name of national interest, they directly negotiate with the Provinces over royalties and resource rights no? Also by taking over the NEB they can regulate resource companies right out of existence, we are seeing some of it in the Pipeline industry under their Environment and safety concerns costing facility owners Millions of extra costs that can't be simply passed on to the consumers.

Agreed, that is all things that they have done and can do to make things more difficult. None of that nationalizes resources which was what the original claim was. That the east would call for nationalization of resources. When Trudeau senior tried it, it failed. Trudeau originaly created Petro canada to try and get around it by having a crown corp to bid on and extract resources. That failed and Petro canada ended up getting sold off to suncor.

Now this is a very simplistic explanation. Rest assured, the left wing and their parties will do everything they can to screw with resource extraction since they can't physically get their hands and pocket books on provincial resources.
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
+2
#39
Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh View Post

Agreed, that is all things that they have done and can do to make things more difficult. None of that nationalizes resources which was what the original claim was. That the east would call for nationalization of resources. When Trudeau senior tried it, it failed. Trudeau originaly created Petro canada to try and get around it by having a crown corp to bid on and extract resources. That failed and Petro canada ended up getting sold off to suncor.
Now this is a very simplistic explanation. Rest assured, the left wing and their parties will do everything they can to screw with resource extraction since they can't physically get their hands and pocket books on provincial resources.

Didn't I say it starts with a purchase of a single pipeline, and hijacking the NEB? By the way the NEB was started to regulate interprovincial petroleum transportation to a national standard after the failed NEP. Now it has morphed into all resource management and risk assessment, now there is a big backdoor into regulating the provincial jurisdiction.
 
spilledthebeer
#40
Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh View Post

It's in the constitution. Provincial jurisdiction. Christ man, do some research before you open your trap.






Oh my! Such angry vitriol re LIE-beral plans THAT ARE ACTUALLY QUITE CLEAR AND SPECIFIC!



LIE-berals DO NOT want to nationalize resource extraction nor any other industry!


LIE-berals JUST WANT CONTROLLING INTERESTS in industry! By such means they get the best of BOTH WORLDS!


LIE-berals TOLD US they wanted to push the price of fossil fuel SO HIGH that we could never afford to use the stuff!


There is NO REASON NOT to believe that LIE-beral statement!


LIE-berals TOLD US they wanted to KILL the entire Cdn oil patch!


And there is NO REASON not to believe that statement!


LIE-berals told us they HAD TO BUY the Kinder Morgan pipeline AND THAT IS TRUE!


LIE-berals fully intended to let radical natives BLOCK pipeline construction FOREVER!


Too bad for LIE-berals that the mostly Yankee Kinder Morgan stock owners HAD TO BE BOUGHT OFF in order to avoid a RUINOUS


TRADE WAR with United States! Thus LIE-berals DID have to buy the Kinder Morgan pipeline in order to FULFILL their



DESPICABLE PLAN to kill the Cdn oil patch and PUNISH those LIE-beral HATING oil people from out west!


LIE-berals then discovered in 2019 election that NOT NEARLY AS MANY CDNS AS THEY HOPED - had bought into the



LIE-beral policy BULLSH+T and the result was a minority govt and a LIE-beral NEED to mend some political fences!


Thus LIE-berals were grudgingly forced to approve Northern Gateway natural gas pipeline! LIE-berals regard natural gas as a much



more POLITICALLY ACCEPTABLE fossil fuel than oil - thus letting Northern Gateway be built was the SMALLEST compromise that



LIE-berals could publicly negotiate!



In summer 2019 - LIE-berals were facing an UNPLEASANT POLITICAL CHALLENGE - in that various investors wanted to build a



new LIQUID NATURAL GAS exporting facility near the Saguenay River - to send product over seas!


This meant LIE-berals had a VERY NASTY POLITICAL CHOICE TO MAKE!



LIE-berals DESPERATELY NEED as many Quebec voters as they can find - and WE ALL KNOW THIS - and Saguenay area has



HIGH UNEMPLOYMENT - the construction and ongoing operation of the LNG export plant would bring LOTS of money and jobs into the depressed region!


Even better - the plant was supposed to be getting supplied with WESTERN NATURAL GAS - which would mean some cash



going back to the fiscally strapped West! BUT HOW TO JUSTIFY building a natural gas pipeline across much of Ontari-owe and into



Quebec while at the same time OPPOSING Kinder Morgan oil pipe and Northern Gateway natural gas pipe?


POOR LIE-berals! Which way to turn? Do they stick with their HATE of fossil fuel and forbid Quebec to profit from Western gas?


Or do they EXPOSE their bigotry and double dealing and PERMIT Quebec to profit from Western gas?


Fortunately for LIE-berals - the Wuhan Pestilence appeared and the price of fossil fuel PLUMMETED!


Now THERE IS NO NEED to worry about gas or oil exports! LIE-berals ARE OFF THE HOOK FOR NOW!


LIE-berals DO NOT wish to nationalize things - if you are RUNNING THINGS then YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE for those things!


LIE-berals ARE REPELLED by the idea of personal responsibility for ANYTHING!


LIE-berals want all the power and all the money and NO RESPONSIBILITY!


This is why - for instance - Our idiot Boy Justin can repeatedly tell us HOW HARD he is working with the provinces to get the



economy RE-OPENED! But he WILL NOT offer any advice or orders regarding how that re-opening should be done!


Our idiot Boy is desperately seeking ways that he can be front and centre AND MAKE IT APPEAR that he is in control!


But he DOES NOT WANT any actual control for fear of being blamed for errors!


This same FEAR of error means LIE-berals DO NOT wish to nationalize anything!


LIE-berals ONLY WANT to cherry pick through various nasty back room deals that will benefit them and their pals!



AND SCREW THE REST OF US for LIE-beral political benefit!
 
spilledthebeer
#41
Quote: Originally Posted by Twin_Moose View Post

We seen that play out in Alberta under the last NDP Gov. cancelled and bought out exploration permits, declared a park and claimed tourism will be more profitable than resource extraction including logging.




If they purchase the rights through buying out company's that are teetering on bankruptcy in the name of national interest, they directly negotiate with the Provinces over royalties and resource rights no? Also by taking over the NEB they can regulate resource companies right out of existence, we are seeing some of it in the Pipeline industry under their Environment and safety concerns costing facility owners Millions of extra costs that can't be simply passed on to the consumers.






Sorry - I dont see that - federal govt CAN BUY mineral rights as far as I know!



I have not heard that provinces MUST be the only purchaser!


As for parks being handy BLOCKERS of any industrial activity! OH YEAH! TRUE DAT!


With the ADDED BONUS that parks take care of native hunting and fishing rights as well!


Natives can fish ANY TIME in a park - and parks tend to be EMPTY of tourists once the weather cools off



thus natives CAN HUNT AS THEY PLEASE in parks without needing to worry about tourists!

If need be - govt can simply CLOSE the park a few weeks early to accommodate native hunters!



And of course the park blocks any of that PESKY housing development stuff that often triggers native occupations in places like



OKA and CALEDONIA!



Parks be USEFUL for LIE-berals buying VOTES!
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
+1
#42
They could control the provincial mineral rights by regulating the process of how you extract them. NEB is managed by the Environmental minister now, control the tail and you can wag the dog. Buy out failing resource companies in the name of national interest you control the body and the tail of the dog and the head becomes a talking piece with no control over the body.
 
spilledthebeer
+1
#43
Quote: Originally Posted by Twin_Moose View Post

They could control the provincial mineral rights by regulating the process of how you extract them. NEB is managed by the Environmental minister now, control the tail and you can wag the dog. Buy out failing resource companies in the name of national interest you control the body and the tail of the dog and the head becomes a talking piece with no control over the body.




Oh Moose.............you are over thinking the thing! There is NO NEED to buy failing companies!


And after all - there is NOTHING to prevent new investors to start up new companies! Buying companies to halt economic activity merely uses gravy that govt does not have!


Consider the so called Ring of Fire mining plans for Northern Ontari-owe that DIED after Ontari-owe LIE-beral premier Wynne-bag



refused to allow road construction on Crown Land - using the environment and the need for consultations with natives an excuse!


Why use scarce gravy to buy companies when you can simply file applications in the nearest paper shredder?



Wynne-bag was willing to allow a railway to be built but roads were unacceptable because of ideology!


But the companies involved wanted roads apparently for ease of worker access!



Having new roads ALSO meant easier access for hunters and fishermen and campers and such!


And LIE-berals DID NOT want that!



With the added headache that new roads would open up lots of new territory for POACHERS and would require


MORE Conservation officers and of course having all that new Crown Land opened up would mean less people


would PAY to stay in provincial parks - thus govt would LOSE GRAVY - clearly UNACCEPTABLE!


Just HOW PETTY are LIE-berals? IN Muskoka cottage country they ARE REMOVING all the signs that used to tell people



WHERE TO FIND public boat launch ramps so they will have a harder time getting access to Crown Land!


The ramps are still there - and the locals know where they are - but people from the city are DISCOURAGED from using those



ramps! LIE-berals want us to go to provincial parks to be herded like cash cows!



LIE-berals are SO DESPERATE to BUY HOG VOTES - that Wynne-bag was seeking ways to respond to DEMANDS by park staff


to INCREASE THE PARKS BUDGET BY ONE THIRD! So staff could "do their job properly"!


Sounds LIKE A HUGE UNION HOG GRAVY GRAB TO ME!


Wynne-bag LIE-berals were defeated by Ford because of their INCREDIBLE GRAVY GRABS!


And Wynne-bag IS HATED in Northern Ontari-owe because she KILLED the Ring of Fire resource biz!
 
spilledthebeer
#44
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

What really pisses me off about the media during all this nonsense is when the TV news or the newspapers tell us to stay at home whilst they themselves are working.

Cheeky f*ckers need a slap.




If you actually WATCHED THE TV NEWS in stead of just making it up - you would KNOW that Cdn news media



IS PRACTICING social distancing and working from home etc!
 
taxslave
Free Thinker
+1
#45
Quote: Originally Posted by spilledthebeer View Post

If you actually WATCHED THE TV NEWS in stead of just making it up - you would KNOW that Cdn news media
IS PRACTICING social distancing and working from home etc!

The ones controlled by the Liberal party have certainly distanced themselves from facts that don't fit the dogma.
 
pgs
Free Thinker
+1
#46
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

The ones controlled by the Liberal party have certainly distanced themselves from facts that don't fit the dogma.

You got that right . He fields such harsh questions from are media , why canít they just stop bullying the boy ?I mean he must remember his his go to answer in two languages and answer all questions with the same basic response . And he does take 4 questions a day . How much torture should he endure?
 
spilledthebeer
#47
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

The ones controlled by the Liberal party have certainly distanced themselves from facts that don't fit the dogma.






WHY........YES!


Our Cdn media whores LONG AGO stopped telling us anything RELEVANT about much of anything!


For instance - in 2012 - our media whores told us that 97% of ALL DEFINED BENEFIT pension plans - which means CIVIL SERVICE



UNION HOGS and A FEW assorted special groups such as auto workers WERE ALL IN A BANKRUPT STATUS!


YES! Our news media had much to say about how BANKRUPT our HOG pension plans were and how many HUNDREDS OF



BILLIONS OF DOLLARS WOULD BE NEEDED TO KEEP HOGS SUPPLIED WITH SUITABLE GOBS OF GRAVY!


In 2012 - we were told that federal HOG unions were holding LIE-beral ISSUED IOU`s worth OVER $300 Billion Dollars!



In related news - the outgoing chairman of the OSSTF Pension management team came on TVO/The Agenda to be interviewed by



host Steve Paikin and the chairman told us that OSSTF- our Ontari-owe high school teachers were looking at a pension shortfall



that would BUILD TO NEARLY $55 BILLION DOLLARS BY SPRING 2018 - counting interest on unpaid IOU`s!


UNLESS Wynne-bag LIE-berals handed over BILLIONS OF DOLLARS worth of NEW GRAVY!


And there were EIGHTEEN MORE PROVINCIAL HOG UNIONS right behind OSSTF - and ALL with their hands out



FOR MORE GRAVY that we did not have - before Wuhan Virus hit!


The LIE-beral pension promise and IOU CRAP is SO BAD that it DESTROYED the Ontari-owe LIE-beral party as Wynne-bag



TRIED AND FAILED to use electricity price gouging to pay for HOG GRAVY!


LIE-berals are SO DESPERATE that Wynne-bag destroyed her own party with her mouldy green energy mess!


LIE-berals are so desperate that Wynne-bag used SHAMELESS ACCOUNTING PRACTICES to try and fail to turn a $16 billion



dollar deficit into a balanced budget!


LIE-berals are SO DESPERATE that federal bean counter Morneau HAS ALREADY BEEN WARNED by international bond rating



services NOT to use the Wynne-bag style accounting CRAP!


What IS the current status of HOG Pension Plans? How FAR OFF being solvent are they? What pressures are being applied to


LIE-berals to bring the plans out of the red?


The ONE THING WE DO KNOW - is that one of the last acts by Wynne-bag was TO ALTER the pension plan definition



OF BEING SOLVENT! Yes - thanks to Wynne-bag a defined benefit pension plan - the GOLD STANDARD of pension plans - and



thus ONLY AVAILABLE TO HOGS and a few special others - will now be considered solvent if it has enough cash on hand to



MEET EIGHTY FIVE PERCENT of its fiscal obligations! Sounds to me like Wynne-bag expects our HOG pension plans to



eventually GO BANKRUPT! Unless we give up a HUGE NEW PILE OF GRAVY TO HOGS!


And what of our other HOGS? Meaning municipal employees and those working at Crown Corporations such as ORNGE and



E-health and at our colleges and hospitals and universities? Our news media whores SAY NOTHING!



NOTHING!


NADA!


ZIP!


WE KNOW - for instance that UNIFOR represents over 15,000 workers in Cdn news media and we SHOULD ASK if our news media



is SELF CENSORING to protect its own position at OUR EXPENSE! LIE-berals have already handed out SIX HUNDRED MILLION



DOLLARS to Cdn News media that "LIE-berals trust" and there are calls for even more media gravy!



How much has Our idiot Boy promised to HOGS if only they will support HIM instead of NDpees in the next election????????


AND How much has the new Ontari-owe LIE-beral leader Stephen Del Duca promised to HOGS if only they will support him instead



of Ontari-owe NDPees? AND .......................WHO KNOWS!


LIE-berals DO NOT THINK it is any of our biz HOW MUCH OF OUR MONEY they give away in exchange for HOG VOTES!


And our MEDIA WHORES ARE SUPPORTING LIE-berals and HOGS in keeping us ignorant!



Bigotry and deceit are the order of the LIE-beral day!
 
pgs
Free Thinker
+2
#48
Quote: Originally Posted by spilledthebeer View Post

WHY........YES!


Our Cdn media whores LONG AGO stopped telling us anything RELEVANT about much of anything!


For instance - in 2012 - our media whores told us that 97% of ALL DEFINED BENEFIT pension plans - which means CIVIL SERVICE



UNION HOGS and A FEW assorted special groups such as auto workers WERE ALL IN A BANKRUPT STATUS!


YES! Our news media had much to say about how BANKRUPT our HOG pension plans were and how many HUNDREDS OF



BILLIONS OF DOLLARS WOULD BE NEEDED TO KEEP HOGS SUPPLIED WITH SUITABLE GOBS OF GRAVY!


In 2012 - we were told that federal HOG unions were holding LIE-beral ISSUED IOU`s worth OVER $300 Billion Dollars!



In related news - the outgoing chairman of the OSSTF Pension management team came on TVO/The Agenda to be interviewed by



host Steve Paikin and the chairman told us that OSSTF- our Ontari-owe high school teachers were looking at a pension shortfall



that would BUILD TO NEARLY $55 BILLION DOLLARS BY SPRING 2018 - counting interest on unpaid IOU`s!


UNLESS Wynne-bag LIE-berals handed over BILLIONS OF DOLLARS worth of NEW GRAVY!


And there were EIGHTEEN MORE PROVINCIAL HOG UNIONS right behind OSSTF - and ALL with their hands out



FOR MORE GRAVY that we did not have - before Wuhan Virus hit!


The LIE-beral pension promise and IOU CRAP is SO BAD that it DESTROYED the Ontari-owe LIE-beral party as Wynne-bag



TRIED AND FAILED to use electricity price gouging to pay for HOG GRAVY!


LIE-berals are SO DESPERATE that Wynne-bag destroyed her own party with her mouldy green energy mess!


LIE-berals are so desperate that Wynne-bag used SHAMELESS ACCOUNTING PRACTICES to try and fail to turn a $16 billion



dollar deficit into a balanced budget!


LIE-berals are SO DESPERATE that federal bean counter Morneau HAS ALREADY BEEN WARNED by international bond rating



services NOT to use the Wynne-bag style accounting CRAP!


What IS the current status of HOG Pension Plans? How FAR OFF being solvent are they? What pressures are being applied to


LIE-berals to bring the plans out of the red?


The ONE THING WE DO KNOW - is that one of the last acts by Wynne-bag was TO ALTER the pension plan definition



OF BEING SOLVENT! Yes - thanks to Wynne-bag a defined benefit pension plan - the GOLD STANDARD of pension plans - and



thus ONLY AVAILABLE TO HOGS and a few special others - will now be considered solvent if it has enough cash on hand to



MEET EIGHTY FIVE PERCENT of its fiscal obligations! Sounds to me like Wynne-bag expects our HOG pension plans to



eventually GO BANKRUPT! Unless we give up a HUGE NEW PILE OF GRAVY TO HOGS!


And what of our other HOGS? Meaning municipal employees and those working at Crown Corporations such as ORNGE and



E-health and at our colleges and hospitals and universities? Our news media whores SAY NOTHING!



NOTHING!


NADA!


ZIP!


WE KNOW - for instance that UNIFOR represents over 15,000 workers in Cdn news media and we SHOULD ASK if our news media



is SELF CENSORING to protect its own position at OUR EXPENSE! LIE-berals have already handed out SIX HUNDRED MILLION



DOLLARS to Cdn News media that "LIE-berals trust" and there are calls for even more media gravy!



How much has Our idiot Boy promised to HOGS if only they will support HIM instead of NDpees in the next election????????


AND How much has the new Ontari-owe LIE-beral leader Stephen Del Duca promised to HOGS if only they will support him instead



of Ontari-owe NDPees? AND .......................WHO KNOWS!


LIE-berals DO NOT THINK it is any of our biz HOW MUCH OF OUR MONEY they give away in exchange for HOG VOTES!


And our MEDIA WHORES ARE SUPPORTING LIE-berals and HOGS in keeping us ignorant!



Bigotry and deceit are the order of the LIE-beral day!

And you wonder why the west wants out . We used to want in , before we gave up .
 

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