10 Marines killed near Falluja


moghrabi
#1
BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- A roadside bomb killed 10 Marines and wounded 11 others while they were on nighttime "foot patrol near Falluja," the Marine Corps said Friday.

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Bush the moron said he will win the war. I guess he is his own way.
 
jimmoyer
#2
"Heroism on command, senseless violence, and all the loathsome nonsense that goes by the name of patriotism -- how passionately I hate them!" -Albert Einstein

That's why he left Nazi Germany.
I'm sure he hated it in America, but he certainly supported the Allied destruction of Nazi Germany.
 
moghrabi
#3
He certaily did hate it in Germany and in America. The same for me. The act above is not heroism by any means except from a president who thinks he can fight an immoral war with a large army.

These insurgents (terrorists) are fighting a moral fight for their country, Jim. For whatever they are, they will prevail.
 
neocon-hunter
#4
Americans call everyone a hero though. It is so over used to the point where it means nothing.
 
Ocean Breeze
#5
Dead "heros"..

Another group of young people as sacrificial lambs for the bush "cause"..........(whatever in heck it has become........seeing as how it changes more rapidly than time )

this whole concept of sacrificing lives ......human lives has such a prehistoric/ritualistic "flavor" to it. ( a bit like the stuff of barbarians and their "gods".)

What about the Iraqis that have been "sacrificed" for the bush crime??

Might be a lot easier to deal with these deaths from an impersonal, sanitized arena like the oval office where the blood, bones, brain matter , and dirt never shows it's ugliness.
 
moghrabi
#6
Yes Neocon-hunter. even their real heros are turning in their graves right now.
 
moghrabi
#7
Quote: Originally Posted by Ocean Breeze

Dead "heros"..

Another group of young people as sacrificial lambs for the bush "cause"..........(whatever in heck it has become........seeing as how it changes more rapidly than time )

this whole concept of sacrificing lives ......human lives has such a prehistoric flavor to it.

What about the Iraqis that have been "sacrificed" for the bush crime??

Might be a lot easier to deal with these deaths from an impersonal, sanitized arena like the oval office where the blood, bones, brain matter , and dirt never shows it's ugliness.

OB. To Americans, only their dead are heroes even if they die for a lie. The poor Iraqis are not even considered humans. Remember Jerk head Rumsfeld "We do not do body count". Well, I am counting.
 
Ocean Breeze
#8
Quote: Originally Posted by moghrabi

Quote: Originally Posted by Ocean Breeze

Dead "heros"..

Another group of young people as sacrificial lambs for the bush "cause"..........(whatever in heck it has become........seeing as how it changes more rapidly than time )

this whole concept of sacrificing lives ......human lives has such a prehistoric flavor to it.

What about the Iraqis that have been "sacrificed" for the bush crime??

Might be a lot easier to deal with these deaths from an impersonal, sanitized arena like the oval office where the blood, bones, brain matter , and dirt never shows it's ugliness.

OB. To Americans, only their dead are heroes even if they die for a lie. The poor Iraqis are not even considered humans. Remember Jerk head Rumsfeld "We do not do body count". Well, I am counting.

and so am I ........counting . ( sadly). Yes, the Hero worship factor in the US is just as potent as it was in the gladiator days of Rome. As a humanity , it would appear they have not evolved all that much since then. War and Power, and Money.....were what made the Romans "glorious" for a while. ........albeit superficially.

these troops are VICTIMS of the bush mentality. Making them into "heros" just serves to perpetuate the lies.
 
neocon-hunter
#9
That they are. I think this "war' hell I will call it what it really is an illegal invasion and occupation, will be worse and even longer than Vietnam.

Bushie the bastard will be gone in three years so he does not really care what happens there (all he cares about is being the big tough guy and to soothe his ego to make up for his very small brain and penis) or about the mess they are in as he will let future administrations deal with the affects for many years to come.

There will be reprocussions for many many years. America wil have a lot of fence mending, trying to rebuild trust of the world community and Bushie will be long gone when that starts to happen.

Bushie, Rumsfeld and Cheney et al do not really care about soldiers, they are all cowards and the chicken shit leader of the so called free world is scared shitless to meet with a women that lost her son?

Man o man, I really don't know what else to say but bushie et al belong in a cell.
 
moghrabi
#10
I think he belongs in a torture room like his prisoners and tasting some of his own medicine.
 
Ocean Breeze
#11
Quote:

Bushie, Rumsfeld and Cheney et al do not really care about soldiers,

No they don't. Not one bit. That trilogy of "evil"......is as cold , callous as a bankers heart. ( bringing in the money equation of all this.. They are interested in power , power tripping, and the profits to be gained from war.( there is always a profit from war........particularly for those that start it)

everything else is just cheap lip service.

suspect they will stay in Iraq until they have drained Iraq dry of resources and what have you.......and then maybe leave some militray bases there .......so as to support/protect their "partner /twin"/ offspring?? Israel. .......

What amazes me is that the Americans themselves are so indifferent to the lives that they have devestated. something very psychopathic about all this. How on earth do they live with themselves. ??? ( ans: "quite easily"..........as that would be the arrogant reply. )
 
neocon-hunter
#12
He is a brutal man to say otherwise one must be ill.

When he was governor of Texas more people were executed (including handicapped and minors) under his watch than any other governor and now so many innocent have been killed in Iraq, so many are being tortured in gawd knows how many places and how many people innocent or otherwise.

He is basically a brutal dictator, nothing less and he should stand trial for his crimes. War crimes, crimes against humanity, torture, violation of the Geneva conventions, and many more.

Bush will go down in history and be compared to his colleague's Hitler, Stalin, Nero, Amin, Napoleon,Pinochet etc as one of the most vile , disguesting evil men of all time.
 
moghrabi
#13
Quote: Originally Posted by Ocean Breeze


suspect they will stay in Iraq until they have drained Iraq dry of resources and what have you.......and then maybe leave some militray bases there .......so as to support/protect their "partner /twin"/ offspring?? Israel. .......

That's who they are working for. All their deed and bad doing is for the protection of their Zionist entity and the wealth of their offspring.
 
moghrabi
#14
Quote: Originally Posted by neocon-hunter

He is a brutal man to say otherwise one must be ill.

When he was governor of Texas more people were executed (including handicapped and minors) under his watch than any other governor and now so many innocent have been killed in Iraq, so many are being tortured in gawd knows how many places and how many people innocent or otherwise.

He is basically a brutal dictator, nothing less and he should stand trial for his crimes. War crimes, crimes against humanity, torture, violation of the Geneva conventions, and many more.

Bush will go down in history and be compared to his colleague's Hitler, Stalin, Nero, Amin, Napoleon,Pinochet etc as one of the most vile , disguesting evil men of all time.

From your list, Hussien got a higher rank than him. Amen.
 
neocon-hunter
#15
Well he does what he accuses Saddam of doing and much worse. He is itching to go into Syria, Iran, NK and anywhere else. It is perverse what he will do to make himself feel more manly.
 
moghrabi
#16
I never considered him to be a man. Maybe if you measure a man by his little penis and rotten testis, then he is a man. But me are measured by their accomplishments. Alas, he has none.
 
moghrabi
#17
 
neocon-hunter
#18
Look at how Katrina victims were treated. He does not even care about poor people in his own country. A country like America should of had a better plan for Katrina, should of not let people suffer like they did. But hell to Bushie they were just poor blacks anyways. Bushie is a horrible monter and poor excuse for a leader.

All that he has accomplished is to get people to hate america. He lied about wmd, lied about everything. Forcing soldiers to serve 2,3,4 tours of duty for a lost cause. He is a loser.
 
Ocean Breeze
#19
Quote: Originally Posted by neocon-hunter

Well he does what he accuses Saddam of doing and much worse. He is itching to go into Syria, Iran, NK and anywhere else. It is perverse what he will do to make himself feel more manly.

It is also the POWER factor. He has tasted power sometime ago and how to wield it to fit HIS own agenda. Brutal dictator ......wanna be for sure. And is to a large degree. He is addicted to POWER ......and employs it in all spheres. ....including the media /news.. so the US population are told what bush wants them to be told. The rules for what can be stated on the air have changed drastically. Heard about this on a documentary. People are AFRAID to talk.

Would venture that POWER is more important than money to him. Power is what is giving him false substance now. BAsically he is an inadequate personality type. ineffectual in everything he has attempted and escaped from anything that might have been challenging or threatening to him......(his psyche).......(.IMHO)

He has the proverbial cock on the walk syndrome.
 
moghrabi
#20
He comes from f*cking dumb family too. His mother went to New Orleans and said to the victims "Well you are poor anyways and now you will get some help." or something like that.

What a f*cking mother of a prez and a first lady?
 
moghrabi
#21
I am not going to count his syndromes and problems. Too many to count. He is a sub-human as far as I am concerned.
 
Ocean Breeze
#22
I just got a news brief (e-mail) that bush knew about the dead marines when he made some speach today.......and did not even mention anything ...during his "speech". That is callous, cold , indifferent and totally selfish. as it suggests that he will bring that up when it will play well for him.

( fecking SOB)



and the world has THREE fecking more yrs of this...... It will be a llllllllllllllong three yrs.
 
Ocean Breeze
#23
Quote: Originally Posted by moghrabi

I am not going to count his syndromes and problems. Too many to count. He is a sub-human as far as I am concerned.

oh heck........the chap is a "walking syndrome" Just throw the whole DSM at him and one has it covered.
 
neocon-hunter
#24
Man it is scarey to think what bushie will do by the end of his term. I wonder what fights he will pick? Very very scarey indeed just thinking of it.
 
Ocean Breeze
#25
Quote: Originally Posted by neocon-hunter

Man it is scarey to think what bushie will do by the end of his term. I wonder what fights he will pick? Very very scarey indeed just thinking of it.

the only "saving grace"....( ) might be , is if the crimes become even more blatant and the US population comes out of its stupor and starts screaming. Gotta hand one thing to the Americans ..........they are very good screamers when they get going. When the proverbial sh** hits the fan .......it might keep the bush/caveman at bay. He will be too busy dodging his own bullits .......so to speak.
 
no1important
#26
It amazes me how they have not come out of their stupour though. So many still support W the weasel and the Bush Crime Family. But it is slowley changing.

Any other world leader to do what "W" has done would of been branded a dictator, human rights abuser and have UN sanctions placed against them and of course "W" threatning to invade unless they were bought off aka a puppet government.
 
Ocean Breeze
#27
Quote:

Any other world leader to do what "W" has done would of been branded a dictator, human rights abuser and have UN sanctions placed against them and of course "W" threatning to invade unless they were bought off aka a puppet government.


can't you just imagine the US response to another nation doing what it has done ??? Bush regime would be screaming like a stuck /hypocritical pig. The self righteous condemnations would be flying faster than the speed of light.
 
jimmoyer
#28
These insurgents (terrorists) are fighting a moral fight for their country, Jim. For whatever they are, they will prevail.
--------------------------------Moghrabi------------------

That statement bears repeating.
Also deserves further examination.
 
moghrabi
#29
Quote: Originally Posted by jimmoyer

These insurgents (terrorists) are fighting a moral fight for their country, Jim. For whatever they are, they will prevail.
--------------------------------Moghrabi------------------

That statement bears repeating.
Also deserves further examination.

Do you want me to repeat it and then examine it?

These people fighting in Iraq are fighting a legitimate fight against occupiers who went there based on lies and with an agenda to control the wealth of their country. You are the occupiers and they are entitled to fight you whichever way they see fit to make sure you run out of there and leave them alone.

Now don't tell me about elections. Elections can be rigged, puppet government in place governed by people who are more wanted worldwide than Saddam ever been.

If you come to my house Jim to destroy it, I will burn it down with you and me in it. That is what is happening in Iraq.
 
Ocean Breeze
#30
Quote: Originally Posted by jimmoyer

These insurgents (terrorists) are fighting a moral fight for their country, Jim. For whatever they are, they will prevail.
--------------------------------Moghrabi------------------

That statement bears repeating.
Also deserves further examination.


jim...... with due respect....... that is a non response. and more along the lines of a verbal GAME as opposed to debate of substance..
 

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