Gun Control is Completely Useless.


Tecumsehsbones
+1
#9121
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

the first amendment is more important than the second and far more imperiled.

Interesting position. Why don't you start a thread about it?
 
Hoid
#9122
Nobody wants a thread about real democratic rights like freedom of the press.

They only care about imaginary rights like guns.
 
Tecumsehsbones
#9123
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

Nobody wants a thread about real democratic rights like freedom of the press.

They only care about imaginary rights like guns.

As cheap excuses go, that one's. . . well, not really very good at all.

Might start one myself. Be interesting, and probably quite amusing, to see if the general level of ignorance on Constitutional/Charter/legal rights on this board is commensurate with the general level of ignorance about most other stuff.
 
Colpy
Conservative
+1
#9124
Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

And yet the Second is in no way different than the other seven in the Bill of Rights. So either you quit yapping about the Gawd-given raht to yer shootin' ahrns and start arguing reasonable, effective restrictions on both guns and shooters, or give the Second the same treatment as the others.


Well, it certainly is as important as the rest, but I think the Second guarantees reasonable access to weapons roughly the equivalent of the personal arms carried by the nation's troops. In your case, the M4...........the full auto compact version of the AR 15.


I also think background checks are a reasonable restraint on that freedom.


Beyond that.......you are limited by your own Bill of Rights.


Don't like that?


Amend it.


That is the only legitimate way to establish what many think are "reasonable" restrictions.

Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

Nobody wants a thread about real democratic rights like freedom of the press.

They only care about imaginary rights like guns.


LOL!!


That's funny from a guy that hates freedom of speech almost as much as the right to keep and bear arms.

Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

the first amendment is more important than the second and far more imperiled.


I agree it is more imperiled......mostly by idiots that want to shut up those that disagree with them.


Or those that want to force the religious to do things they find immoral...........
 
DaSleeper
#9125
He probably advocates "Fair Speech" like Mentalfloss
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
#9126
Quote: Originally Posted by Bar Sinister View Post

Just a question. How much of spilled's shit do you read?

+/- none!
 
Bar Sinister
No Party Affiliation
#9127
OK - you really can't make this shit up.


Fox News’ Solution to Help School Shooting Victims: A Giant Cannon That Blasts Through Walls





https://www.pluralist.com/posts/975-...-through-walls
 
spaminator
#9128
'This isn't okay anymore': People outraged after Prince George photographed playing with toy gun
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Published:
June 11, 2018
Updated:
June 11, 2018 9:57 AM EDT
Britain's Kate, the Duchess of Cambridge, left, sits with Prince George and other unidentified spectators as they watch Prince William take part in the Maserati Royal Charity Polo Trophy at the Beaufort Polo Club, in Tetbury, England, Sunday June 10, 2018. (Steve Parsons/PA via AP) ORG XMIT: AMB817Steve Parsons / AP
Recent photographs of Prince George playing with a toy gun have sparked outrage online.
The royal tot, accompanied by mom Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge and sister Princess Charlotte, was photographed playing on a grassy hill at the Maserati Polo match at the Beaufort Polo Club in Gloucestershire on June 10.
Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge, accompanied by Prince George and Princess Charlotte, attends the Maserati Polo match at Beaufort Polo Club in Gloucestershire Featuring: Prince George, Princess Charlotte Where: Tetbury, United Kingdom When: 10 Jun 2018 Credit: John Rainford/WENN WP#JRAK / John Rainford/WENN
Most of the photos show the young boy running around or seated next to his mom, however some of the photos show the youngster holding up a small toy gun.
Many took to social media to criticize the royals’ toy choice given the increase of gun violence.
“This isn’t okay anymore…No child in this day and age should look at any gun as a fun toy. This looks far too real,” one Twitter user said.
“Sad to see George playing with a gun with the whole country has a gun/knife crime situation,” another said.

‘This isn’t okay anymore’: People outraged after Prince George photographed playing with toy gun | Toronto Sun

'IRRESPONSIBLE AND DISTASTEFUL': Eminem slammed for using gunshot sound effects at Bonnaroo
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Published:
June 11, 2018
Updated:
June 11, 2018 7:47 AM EDT
Eminem performs at the Bonnaroo Music and Arts Festival on Saturday, June 9, 2018, in Manchester, Tenn.Amy Harris / Amy Harris/Invision/AP
Eminem is facing criticism for using the sound of gunshots during his performance at the 2018 Bonnaroo music festival in Tennessee on Saturday.
The rapper was performing his song Kill You, off his 2000 album The Marshall Mathers LP, and during the track, what sounds like gunshots can be heard.
Following the performance, many attendees took to social media and posted videos of audience members screaming and ducking when the sound effects went off.
“I hate to be the one to say it, but being someone who suffers from very mild PTSD (post traumatic stress disorder), it was EXTREMELY irresponsible and distasteful to end songs w (with) the shot gun sound effect,” social media star Andrea Russett wrote on Twitter. “I have grown up loving eminem and his music but i was extremely triggered to the point of tears (sic).”
https://twitter.com/jen_MCR15/status...10169132044289
“To hear a gun shot sound effect and see the entire crowd drop to the floor out of instinct is not funny, cute, or amusing,” she added. “this is the sad reality that we are living. this is not funny or even something to be joked about (sic).”
However, many fans came to his defence, insisting he has ended the song with the same sound effects for several years.
“Eminem has ended Kill You with the gun shot effects for (at least) 6 years now and this is the first time someone ever complains,” one Twitter user replied.
“So apparently Eminem is performing at Bonnaroo right now and a bunch of younger people are losing their s–t because his set included realistic gunshot sound effects,” another added. “I dunno (sic) what song(s) it was from, but it sounds to me like a bunch of people became Eminem fans post 2002.”
Russett’s complaints follow the 2017 shooting massacre at the Route 91 Harvest music festival in Las Vegas and the 2017 bombing at Ariana Grande’s Manchester concert.
‘IRRESPONSIBLE AND DISTASTEFUL’: Eminem slammed for using gunshot sound effects at Bonnaroo | Toronto Sun
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DaSleeper
+1
#9129
Quote: Originally Posted by Bar Sinister View Post

OK - you really can't make this shit up.


Fox News’ Solution to Help School Shooting Victims: A Giant Cannon That Blasts Through Walls



https://www.pluralist.com/posts/975-...-through-walls




Then why do you keep doing it?
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spilledthebeer
+1
#9130
Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

And yet the Second is in no way different than the other seven in the Bill of Rights. So either you quit yapping about the Gawd-given raht to yer shootin' ahrns and start arguing reasonable, effective restrictions on both guns and shooters, or give the Second the same treatment as the others.


Right there! Guns are NOT given by Gawd! The Second Amendment also makes reference to those gun owners operating within "a well regulated militia"!


The Founding Fathers did NOT expect every pissed off drunken fool on the street to be waving pistols!


And we can guess that they DID NOT EXPECT that lunatics would be given access to guns- its that "well regulated militia" thing back to bite Yankee backsides!


Loons are generally NOT WELCOME in a well regulated militia and sensible people ensure that loons are DEPRIVED of guns for the safety of society!
 
Hoid
#9131
The prince george thing is ridiculous given the video game indoctrination/training that the world's youth now receives. An actual real issue is being obscured .

The m&m thing - that should be jail.

That is the equivilent of yelling fire in the theater
 
Bar Sinister
No Party Affiliation
#9132
Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeper View Post

Then why do you keep doing it?
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Did you read the article, chucklehead?
 
spaminator
-1
#9133
FBI agent who dropped gun while dancing charged with assault | Toronto Sun
 
spilledthebeer
+3
#9134
Quote: Originally Posted by spaminator View Post

FBI agent who dropped gun while dancing charged with assault | Toronto Sun


On the other hand- LIE-berals are DELIBERATELY IGNORING the obvious solution of CRIME CONTROL!


LIE-berals would rather RIG jury selection in favour of drunken native thieves than risk losing native votes- even though they ARE losing white support!


LIE-berals have made their choices for supporters and it is NOT a choice in favourt of honest tax payers!

 
Tecumsehsbones
#9135
Quote: Originally Posted by spilledthebeer View Post

On the other hand- LIE-berals are DELIBERATELY IGNORING the obvious solution of CRIME CONTROL!


LIE-berals would rather RIG jury selection in favour of drunken native thieves than risk losing native votes- even though they ARE losing white support!


LIE-berals have made their choices for supporters and it is NOT a choice in favourt of honest tax payers!

We're not sure how that relates to the moron FBI agent who got drunk with his weapon on him, but we're sure you're retarded enough to make the connection.
 
Curious Cdn
No Party Affiliation
#9136
Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

We're not sure how that relates to the moron FBI agent who got drunk with his weapon on him, but we're sure you're retarded enough to make the connection.

He was hunting witches, at the time.
 
Johnnny
No Party Affiliation
+1
#9137
Non gun owners need to suppourt the honest and responsible gun owners who follow the law.
 
DaSleeper
+1
#9138
Quote: Originally Posted by Bar Sinister View Post

Did you read the article, chucklehead?

Yes I
Read it and checked your “Fake news” source

You on the other hand will just post anything that fit your ideology,.......no mater where it comes from, and close your mind to anything else.

most people will do that to a certain degree but you do it all the time
 
JamesBondo
#9139
Quote: Originally Posted by spilledthebeer View Post

Right there! Guns are NOT given by Gawd! The Second Amendment also makes reference to those gun owners operating within "a well regulated militia"!

You are delusional

the declaration of independence was quite clear about civilians having the right to rise up and overthrow the government.

If the 2nd is only about 'a well regulated militia' then some mutherfawker icehole just like you changed the rules before the 2nd amendment was passed. Wouldn't you agree?
 
DaSleeper
#9140
Any shooting ranges in Mississauga?
I’m here for about a week and half
 
taxslave
Free Thinker
#9141
Quote: Originally Posted by Bar Sinister View Post

Did you read the article, chucklehead?

Did you see the source?
 
Cliffy
Free Thinker
#9142
 
spaminator
#9143
'YOU CANNOT CENSOR US': Developer defends school-shooting game as victims complain
Associated Press
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Published:
June 13, 2018
Updated:
June 13, 2018 7:21 PM EDT
This screen shot taken from YouTube shows a still frame from the video game "Active Shooter." Acid Software, the developer of the school shooting video game is defending the product and vowing to continue selling it online as parents of slain children and other mass shooting victims work to get the game wiped off the internet. (YouTube via AP)
HARTFORD, Conn. — The developer of a school-shooting video game is vowing to continue selling it online as parents of slain children and other mass shooting victims work to get the game wiped off the internet.
The “Active Shooter” game was created by Anton Makarevskiy, a 21-year-old developer from Moscow, Russia, and is being marketed by his entity Acid Software. Acid said in a Twitter posting Tuesday that it will not be censored and cited free expression rights.
You cannot censor us and what we do. Our game does not violate any ToS nor promotes any violence and/or extremism.… twitter.com/i/web/status/1…

ACID (@ACID_WTF) June 12, 2018
The game is branded as a “SWAT simulator” that lets players choose between being an active shooter terrorizing a school or the SWAT team responding to the shooting. Players can choose a gun, grenade or knife, and civilian and police death totals are shown on the screen. Acid had been selling an early version of the game online for $20 and plans to release a new version next month.
Acid recently set up two websites for “Active Shooter” after the game was removed from the webpages of video game marketplace Steam and crowdfunding site Indiegogo, which is refunding contributors. The removals followed complaints and online petitions by anti-gun violence advocates including parents of children killed in school shootings in Parkland, Florida, and Newtown, Connecticut.
“You cannot censor us and what we do,” an Acid Twitter posting said . “Our game does not violate any ToS (terms of service) nor promotes any violence and/or extremism. #ActiveShooter will remain on our website and continue its course!”
One of the sites included a discussion section where one person recommended adding more “blood from shot civilians (LOTS AND LOTS)” and increasing noise and chaos to add to “the drama.”
The new webpages were shut down Tuesday night by Bluehost, the Burlington, Massachusetts, company that hosted the new sites, according to Acid. A representative of the company said the sites were up and running again Wednesday afternoon using Russian servers.
Representatives of Bluehost did not return a message seeking comment.
Bluehost was asked to remove the sites in an online petition organized by Sandy Hook Promise, an anti-gun violence group formed by parents whose children were killed at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown in December 2012. Twenty first-graders and six educators were shot to death at the school, including Nicole Hockley’s son, Dylan.
“Even more than five years later, I’m still not ready to face all the details of Dylan’s last moments,” Hockley said in an email urging people to sign the petition to Bluehost. “The fact that someone has programmed such details into a game for others to play is beyond sickening.”
The game also was recently condemned by parents of children killed at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida.
Ata Berdyev, of Seattle, who is helping Makarevskiy promote the game, told The Associated Press in emails Tuesday that the new sites generated about 300 free downloads of a demo, 14 sales of the initial game version and four pre-orders of the new version in less than a day.
Berdyev said Makarevskiy “does not keep up with US news” and the release of the game was “just a bad timing.”
“He obviously expected some criticism, but not as much as it got,” Berdyev wrote. “It’s a video game, not reality. It also does not promote any violence or hate. People need to focus on real-life issues rather than a video game. There are lots of other games which are even worse, but people seem not to care as much.”

‘YOU CANNOT CENSOR US’: Developer defends school-shooting game as victims complain | Toronto Sun
 
Hoid
#9144
IT does not promote violence or hate?

Actually it does.
 
spilledthebeer
#9145
Quote: Originally Posted by spaminator View Post

'YOU CANNOT CENSOR US': Developer defends school-shooting game as victims complain
Associated Press
More from Associated Press
Published:
June 13, 2018
Updated:
June 13, 2018 7:21 PM EDT
This screen shot taken from YouTube shows a still frame from the video game "Active Shooter." Acid Software, the developer of the school shooting video game is defending the product and vowing to continue selling it online as parents of slain children and other mass shooting victims work to get the game wiped off the internet. (YouTube via AP)
HARTFORD, Conn. — The developer of a school-shooting video game is vowing to continue selling it online as parents of slain children and other mass shooting victims work to get the game wiped off the internet.
The “Active Shooter” game was created by Anton Makarevskiy, a 21-year-old developer from Moscow, Russia, and is being marketed by his entity Acid Software. Acid said in a Twitter posting Tuesday that it will not be censored and cited free expression rights.
You cannot censor us and what we do. Our game does not violate any ToS nor promotes any violence and/or extremism.… twitter.com/i/web/status/1…

ACID (@ACID_WTF) June 12, 2018
The game is branded as a “SWAT simulator” that lets players choose between being an active shooter terrorizing a school or the SWAT team responding to the shooting. Players can choose a gun, grenade or knife, and civilian and police death totals are shown on the screen. Acid had been selling an early version of the game online for $20 and plans to release a new version next month.
Acid recently set up two websites for “Active Shooter” after the game was removed from the webpages of video game marketplace Steam and crowdfunding site Indiegogo, which is refunding contributors. The removals followed complaints and online petitions by anti-gun violence advocates including parents of children killed in school shootings in Parkland, Florida, and Newtown, Connecticut.
“You cannot censor us and what we do,” an Acid Twitter posting said . “Our game does not violate any ToS (terms of service) nor promotes any violence and/or extremism. #ActiveShooter will remain on our website and continue its course!”
One of the sites included a discussion section where one person recommended adding more “blood from shot civilians (LOTS AND LOTS)” and increasing noise and chaos to add to “the drama.”
The new webpages were shut down Tuesday night by Bluehost, the Burlington, Massachusetts, company that hosted the new sites, according to Acid. A representative of the company said the sites were up and running again Wednesday afternoon using Russian servers.
Representatives of Bluehost did not return a message seeking comment.
Bluehost was asked to remove the sites in an online petition organized by Sandy Hook Promise, an anti-gun violence group formed by parents whose children were killed at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown in December 2012. Twenty first-graders and six educators were shot to death at the school, including Nicole Hockley’s son, Dylan.
“Even more than five years later, I’m still not ready to face all the details of Dylan’s last moments,” Hockley said in an email urging people to sign the petition to Bluehost. “The fact that someone has programmed such details into a game for others to play is beyond sickening.”
The game also was recently condemned by parents of children killed at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida.
Ata Berdyev, of Seattle, who is helping Makarevskiy promote the game, told The Associated Press in emails Tuesday that the new sites generated about 300 free downloads of a demo, 14 sales of the initial game version and four pre-orders of the new version in less than a day.
Berdyev said Makarevskiy “does not keep up with US news” and the release of the game was “just a bad timing.”
“He obviously expected some criticism, but not as much as it got,” Berdyev wrote. “It’s a video game, not reality. It also does not promote any violence or hate. People need to focus on real-life issues rather than a video game. There are lots of other games which are even worse, but people seem not to care as much.”

‘YOU CANNOT CENSOR US’: Developer defends school-shooting game as victims complain | Toronto Sun




Pity the poor stupid desperate LIE-berals who are running out of LIES to tell us- with no clever new BS available!



Firstly- wjhat is the problem with some drunk FBI guy dropping his gun on a dance floor?



LOTS of Yankees have licenses to carry concealed weapons- and they often carry while grocery shopping or dancing or etc!


There are currently NO restrictions on carrying guns on a dance floor- that I should have to point this out illustrates the utter madness of the LIE-beral position!


And why is it that the FBI is held to a higher standard than the average dork in the street?



And why blame the FBI guy for carrying his gun off duty since Yankee society is so gun crazed that people do not feel safe without their Smith and \Wesson "companion"- especially when so many cops are being deliberately targeted by hate groups!


We had a case in Canada where the jailed leader of Hells Angels had his gang members following jail guards home in an obvious threat against guards families- it was deliberate intimidation of guards!


Our local govt also had a series of debates about the cost of fully fencing parking areas around cop stations so that criminals could not so easily get the license plates of cops personal vehicles to use later for threats and intimidation!


The FBI guy dropping his gun on a dance floor is simply the natural result of living in such a heavily armed society!


An elderly relative of mine once observed that there were more people in his unit shot accidentally by their own side than by the Nazis in France! It is the natural result of living 24/7 with loaded guns!


Make the society safer and then people can leave the guns at home- but cop haters do not want such a world- its much more fun to sneer at stupid cops!
 
Hoid
#9146
2 young girls hurt in brazen Toronto playground shooting | CBC News

two young girls age 5 and 9 shot at a Toronto playground in a drive by.
 
Bar Sinister
No Party Affiliation
#9147
 
pgs
Free Thinker
+1
#9148
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

2 young girls hurt in brazen Toronto playground shooting | CBC News

two young girls age 5 and 9 shot at a Toronto playground in a drive by.

And ? Is this an immigration problem , an integration problem , or a gun control problem ?
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
#9149
Quote: Originally Posted by pgs View Post

And ? Is this an immigration problem , an integration problem , or a gun control problem ?


Definitely a gun control problem...………………………………..by an Asshole!
Last edited by JLM; Jun 15th, 2018 at 09:04 AM..
 
kiwi55
#9150
If it was up to me I would ban all gun sales and gun possession. If you don't like that move to the US.