Hundreds feared dead in London tower block fire


Blackleaf
#91
This seems a bit eerie.

With the fire out and Grenfell Tower blackened and charred, what looks like a torch flashing from one of the windows is seen in this video.

At first sight, someone may assume that it's someone who has miraculously survived the fire and using the flashing light to get attention and help. But it is, in fact, the flashing of a fireman's torch as he goes through the building looking for bodies

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNUO19y9RO4

Inside Grenfell Tower:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfrRn2-FFq0
 
MHz
#92
BTW hemp can produce a lightweight panel that has a high R-Value and is flame resistant. If ignited it burns like a piece of coal, it smoulders and glows in the dark. You could put a frying pan on it without burning yourself, being downwind would be a different story.
Only available in Canada you say? Pity, eh?

Don't anybody tell him how to fix that, . . . . please. lol asswipe has a better smell than you bl.
 
Blackleaf
#93
A person at a window as the building burns:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPVoK92lYSU

A man seen at a window:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zsz1PKB1XRc
 
MHz
#94
lol, how do you like karma so far fuktard??

In other news:
Why 3 stories??
I saw that in Canada's specs of where styro-foam can be used on the outside. Is that based on how the fire destroyed that high-rise in 2010. The towers would have become a torch if 3 stories was as high as it went. That is based on the rate of the spread of the fire once the outside caught fire.
 
Tecumsehsbones
#95
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

Why should someone be allowed to live in a £20 million home if they can't afford it? I wonder how many of these survivors are dole-dossing Muslims and asylum seekers living off benefits? We should not be handing out free mansions to them.

That's what I been saying from the git-go. This was a great day. Blacks, muzzies, and poor folks off the welfare rolls, Notting Hill land cleared for a Brussels banker to build his dream house.

What's the downside?

Quote: Originally Posted by coldstream View Post

Using the World Trade Centre as a reference..

Because the cases are identical. . .
 
tay
#96
Symbolism is everything in politics and nothing better signifies the austerity of May-Cameron-Osborne era than North Kensington’s ghastly tomb

But political blame spreads right through the Conservative party, with no escape on offer. This goes far beyond the precise shockers – the Tory MPs who mockingly rejected housing regulation ; the cuts to funding to councils responsible for retro-fitting fire suppressants; the disregard of coroner’s instructions after the 2009 Lakanal House tragedy ; and even the plan to opt out of EU safety regulations . Conservative Kensington and Chelsea council allegedly blocking its ears to tenants’ well-founded anxiety is just the immediate scandal. But this event reaches far deeper, to the very sinews of its party’s policy.

That tower is austerity in ruins. Symbolism is everything in politics and nothing better signifies the May-Cameron-Osborne era that stripped bare the state and its social and physical protection of citizens. The horror of poor people burned alive within feet of the country’s grandest mansions , many of them empty, moth-balled investments, perfectly captures the politics of the last seven years. The Cameron, Osborne, Gove Notting Hill set live just up the road.

From the 40% cuts to local councils, to the bedroom tax and the housing benefit cap banishing people hundreds of miles from family and schools, the people spilling out on to the street, sheltered by churches and mosques , are the unwilling emblems of deliberate Conservative attacks. Just remember how personally people have been abused by George Osborne – those idlers with the blinds down while hard workers set off at dawn. Or Iain Duncan Smith’s: “ This is not an easy life any more, chum .” Together with their poisonous press, they hardened public hearts against those struggling and working hard on low incomes: how else could they make this April’s £12bn benefit cuts politically palatable? Here’s the moment public hearts soften and the idea of social security regains its meaning.

George W Bush was similarly exposed by his clueless reaction to Hurricane Katrina , leaving the poor vulnerable to the state’s refusal to invest in flood defences. This government can’t redeem itself, but it can limit the damage by quickly obeying its promise to rehouse every family nearby , one that was only dragged out of ministers reluctantly under fierce questioning by Labour MPs.

The government needs to pay the private rents to rehouse all these families locally. I know of at least one block of luxury flats in Kensington with the lights out permanently in most of them: the council should requisition the housing it needs, with plenty available.

What of rehousing all the other tower block residents now horrified to find their homes too are potential fire-traps?

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ameron-osborne


Map of empty homes in Kensington with number of days empty


 
taxslave
#97
Quote: Originally Posted by HarperCons View Post

Another capitalist disaster...

Capitalism's death toll is billions and counting.

So you want the capitalists to quit building free housing for the freeloaders? Cut off welfare for commies? Funny how it is always capitalists that the service clubs come to for donations to keep the freeloaders brats from starving to death in the cold and dark.
 
Vbeacher
#98
[QUOTE=Danbones;2470703
Hell, you like Hillary the murderess, if that isn't a sign of total insanity, I don't know what is. [/QUOTE]

Well, reading a few of your posts, they seem to qualify.

Quote: Originally Posted by MHz View Post

Earth to the asshole known as BL.
The hellholes are hellholes because and you like are bombing the fuk out of them.

They've been hellholes since eternity. The bombing didn't come out of nowhere, but in response to the violence already there.

Quote: Originally Posted by Murphy View Post

Get used to it. You are staring at your betters, who are fast becoming the dominant species.

The average IQ in the middle east is in the low 80s. Small wonder they have such low literacy, almost no scientific accomplishments, and the only thing their scholars study is Islam.
 
Murphy
#99
Quote: Originally Posted by Vbeacher View Post

...The average IQ in the middle east is in the low 80s. Small wonder they have such low literacy, almost no scientific accomplishments, and the only thing their scholars study is Islam.

Which explains why they are taking over in Britain. Their IQs are higher.
 
tay
#100
The Clash's “Up In Heaven” is still relevant 35-years later. It was the inevitable result of conservative policies that treat working class and poor people as disposable, and treats their human needs as optional.



https://asenseofplace.com/2014/07/19...ove-good-news/

www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfMA9nYzo2M





Papering over Poverty

www.youtube.com/watch?v=cft52h89roU
 
Vbeacher
+2
#101
Quote: Originally Posted by Murphy View Post

Which explains why they are taking over in Britain. Their IQs are higher.

No, they just have a lot more kids. Nothing else to do. Rats breed fast, too.

Nor do their wives have much concern about the children interrupting their careers...
 
Bar Sinister
#102
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

On the 26th April 1986 the worst nuclear and environmental accident in the history of the world occurred. It happened not under the ideology of the Tories or capitalism. It occurred under the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.

Oh, that explains why the tower burned so quickly. It was full of uranium. BTW Fukushima was a Class 7 nuclear accident. The same as Chernobyl.
 
Danbones
#103
****ushima has how many reactors with plutonium and Chernobyl had how many reactors and NO plutonium?
wow
You really have no idea about which you speak do you?

They put a lid on Chernobyl and they will never get one on all the reactors at Fukushima
Can't tell the difference between capped and not capped?
LOL

The Fukushima I Nuclear Power Plant comprised six separate boiling water reactors
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fukush...clear_disaster
The nuclear disaster has contaminated the world's largest ocean in only five years and it's still leaking 300 tons of radioactive waste every day.

What was the most dangerous nuclear disaster in world history? Most people would say the Chernobyl nuclear disaster in Ukraine, but they’d be wrong. In 2011, an earthquake, believed to be an aftershock of the 2010 earthquake in Chile, created a tsunami that caused a meltdown at the TEPCO nuclear power plant in Fukushima, Japan. Three nuclear reactors melted down and what happened next was the largest release of radiation into the water in the history of the world. Over the next three months, radioactive chemicals, some in even greater quantities than Chernobyl, leaked into the Pacific Ocean. However, the numbers may actually be much higher as Japanese official estimates have been proven by several scientists to be flawed in recent years.

If that weren’t bad enough, Fukushima continues to leak an astounding 300 tons of radioactive waste into the Pacific Ocean every day. It will continue do so indefinitely as the source of the leak cannot be sealed as it is inaccessible to both humans and robots due to extremely high temperatures.

It should come as no surprise, then, that Fukushima has contaminated the entire Pacific Ocean in just five years. This could easily be the worst environmental disaster in human history and it is almost never talked about by politicians, establishment scientists, or the news. It is interesting to note that TEPCO is a subsidiary partner with General Electric (also known as GE), one of the largest companies in the world, which has considerable control over numerous news corporations and politicians alike. Could this possibly explain the lack of news coverage Fukushima has received in the last five years? There is also evidence that GE knew about the poor condition of the Fukushima reactors for decades and did nothing. This led 1,400 Japanese citizens to sue GE for their role in the Fukushima nuclear disaster.

Even if we can’t see the radiation itself, some parts of North America’s western coast have been feeling the effects for years. Not long after Fukushima, fish in Canada began bleeding from their gills, mouths, and eyeballs. This “disease” has been ignored by the government and has decimated native fish populations, including the North Pacific herring. Elsewhere in Western Canada, independent scientists have measured a 300% increase in the level of radiation. According to them, the amount of radiation in the Pacific Ocean is increasing every year. Why is this being ignored by the mainstream media? It might have something to do with the fact that the US and Canadian governments have banned their citizens from talking about Fukushima so “people don’t panic.”
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-1...oing-get-worse

It hasn't even gotten started yet.

Chernobyl was One reactor, it's been capped, and there as NO PLUTONIUM.

oh yeah, you get your info from the WAPO
eat salmon
Last edited by Danbones; Jun 18th, 2017 at 10:38 PM..
 
MHz
#104
Quote: Originally Posted by Vbeacher View Post

No, they just have a lot more kids. Nothing else to do. Rats breed fast, too.

I didn't know there was a call for rat breeders. Congrats on your unique job.

58 people confirmed or presumed dead from London tower fire | The Press Democrat
LONDON — London police on Saturday raised to 58 the number of deaths either confirmed or presumed following the horrific inferno that turned the city’s Grenfell Tower public housing block into a charred hulk.
Public anger is mounting as residents and neighbors demand answers for how the blaze early Wednesday spread so quickly and trapped so many of the tower’s 600-odd residents. British media have reported that contractors installed a cheaper, less flame-resistant type of exterior paneling on the 24-story tower in a renovation that was completed just last year.




Grenfell Tower refurbishers OVER INSULATED cladding to avoid repeat job | UK | News | Express.co.uk
A primary aim of the £8.6million refurbishment was to stem heat loss in winter, and summer overheating problems, through the external insulation, new heating and windows.
However, the document went on to say that those behind the project chose to "far exceed" the insulation levels required today, to avoid having to do it again in future years.
The report said: "Improving the insulation levels of the walls, roof and windows is the top priority of this refurbishment.
"Improving the insulation levels on a solid wall construction is always best done from the outside of the wall.


Grenfell Tower fire
Grenfell Tower fire: Cladding used on London block is ILLEGAL in UK, Philip Hammond says

Marr asked the Tory Cabinet minister: “The cladding that was used around this tower which went up the rocket is banned across most European countries and banned in the United States.
“If the inquiry says it’s got to be banned in this country and it’s got to be torn off every single building that’s got it and we have to re-clad those buildings whatever the cost - will the Government pick up the tab for that too?”
Mr Hammond responded: “My understanding is that the cladding in question, this flammable cladding which is banned in Europe and the US, is also banned here.
 
Blackleaf
#105
Death toll rises to 79

Quote: Originally Posted by tay View Post

Symbolism is everything in politics and nothing better signifies the austerity of May-Cameron-Osborne era than
North Kensington’s ghastly tomb


But political blame spreads right through the Conservative party, with no escape on offer. This goes far beyond the precise shockers – the Tory MPs who mockingly rejected housing regulation ; the cuts to funding to councils responsible for retro-fitting fire suppressants; the disregard of coroner’s instructions after the 2009 Lakanal House tragedy ; and even the plan to opt out of EU safety regulations . Conservative Kensington and Chelsea council allegedly blocking its ears to tenants’ well-founded anxiety is just the immediate scandal. But this event reaches far deeper, to the very sinews of its party’s policy.

That tower is austerity in ruins. Symbolism is everything in politics and nothing better signifies the May-Cameron-Osborne era that stripped bare the state and its social and physical protection of citizens. The horror of poor people burned alive within feet of the country’s grandest mansions , many of them empty, moth-balled investments, perfectly captures the politics of the last seven years. The Cameron, Osborne, Gove Notting Hill set live just up the road.

From the 40% cuts to local councils, to the bedroom tax and the housing benefit cap banishing people hundreds of miles from family and schools, the people spilling out on to the street, sheltered by churches and mosques , are the unwilling emblems of deliberate Conservative attacks. Just remember how personally people have been abused by George Osborne – those idlers with the blinds down while hard workers set off at dawn. Or Iain Duncan Smith’s: “ This is not an easy life any more, chum .” Together with their poisonous press, they hardened public hearts against those struggling and working hard on low incomes: how else could they make this April’s £12bn benefit cuts politically palatable? Here’s the moment public hearts soften and the idea of social security regains its meaning.

George W Bush was similarly exposed by his clueless reaction to Hurricane Katrina , leaving the poor vulnerable to the state’s refusal to invest in flood defences. This government can’t redeem itself, but it can limit the damage by quickly obeying its promise to rehouse every family nearby , one that was only dragged out of ministers reluctantly under fierce questioning by Labour MPs.

The government needs to pay the private rents to rehouse all these families locally. I know of at least one block of luxury flats in Kensington with the lights out permanently in most of them: the council should requisition the housing it needs, with plenty available.

What of rehousing all the other tower block residents now horrified to find their homes too are potential fire-traps?

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ameron-osborne


Map of empty homes in Kensington with number of days empty


Tories cuts are to blame for this fire! Tory austerity is to blame for this fire! The Tories are evil murdering fascists!

The hysterical Guardianistas and Lefties need to give it a rest. They sound absurd.
 
Tecumsehsbones
#106
Roger that. Most of the dead were black or Muzzies, and the rest were poor. So what's the problem?
 
Blackleaf
#107
Woman questions man on Finsbury Park's Islamist reputation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fg_zS1FCetY

Woman questions man on Finsbury Park's Islamist reputation:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fg_zS1FCetY
 
Tecumsehsbones
#108
Boy howdy, Blackshirt, you busted this thread like a lager lout attempting (and failing) to murder folks.

Engerlish.
 
Danbones
#109
Say, so when is that building going to collapse in it's own footprint?

Quote: Originally Posted by Vbeacher View Post

No, they just have a lot more kids. Nothing else to do. Rats breed fast, too.

Nor do their wives have much concern about the children interrupting their careers...

hate much?
 
Danbones
#110
Two women feared dead in Grenfell Tower were 'threatened with legal action' for raising alarm about fire safety
‘Two women feared dead in the Grenfell Tower tragedy were allegedly threatened with legal action after they campaigned for improved fire safety.

Mariem Elgwahry, 27, and Nadia Choucair, 33, reportedly received letters ordering them to stop their campaign for improved safety.

Both women were fighting the Kensington and Chelsea Tenant Management Organisation for building improvements, with help from the Radical Housing Network, The Mirror reports.

Pilgrim Tucker, who works for the group, told the paper: “The TMO’s response was to threaten tenants with legal action and send out letters. Nadia and Mariem would have received them too.’

Read more: Two women feared dead in Grenfell Tower were ‘threatened with legal action’ for raising alarm about fire safety
https://www.davidicke.com/article/41...rm-fire-safety
 
Bar Sinister
#111
Quote: Originally Posted by Danbones View Post

****ushima has how many reactors with plutonium and Chernobyl had how many reactors and NO plutonium?
wow
You really have no idea about which you speak do you?

They put a lid on Chernobyl and they will never get one on all the reactors at Fukushima
Can't tell the difference between capped and not capped?
LOL

The Fukushima I Nuclear Power Plant comprised six separate boiling water reactors
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fukush...clear_disaster
The nuclear disaster has contaminated the world's largest ocean in only five years and it's still leaking 300 tons of radioactive waste every day.

What was the most dangerous nuclear disaster in world history? Most people would say the Chernobyl nuclear disaster in Ukraine, but they’d be wrong. In 2011, an earthquake, believed to be an aftershock of the 2010 earthquake in Chile, created a tsunami that caused a meltdown at the TEPCO nuclear power plant in Fukushima, Japan. Three nuclear reactors melted down and what happened next was the largest release of radiation into the water in the history of the world. Over the next three months, radioactive chemicals, some in even greater quantities than Chernobyl, leaked into the Pacific Ocean. However, the numbers may actually be much higher as Japanese official estimates have been proven by several scientists to be flawed in recent years.

If that weren’t bad enough, Fukushima continues to leak an astounding 300 tons of radioactive waste into the Pacific Ocean every day. It will continue do so indefinitely as the source of the leak cannot be sealed as it is inaccessible to both humans and robots due to extremely high temperatures.

It should come as no surprise, then, that Fukushima has contaminated the entire Pacific Ocean in just five years. This could easily be the worst environmental disaster in human history and it is almost never talked about by politicians, establishment scientists, or the news. It is interesting to note that TEPCO is a subsidiary partner with General Electric (also known as GE), one of the largest companies in the world, which has considerable control over numerous news corporations and politicians alike. Could this possibly explain the lack of news coverage Fukushima has received in the last five years? There is also evidence that GE knew about the poor condition of the Fukushima reactors for decades and did nothing. This led 1,400 Japanese citizens to sue GE for their role in the Fukushima nuclear disaster.

Even if we can’t see the radiation itself, some parts of North America’s western coast have been feeling the effects for years. Not long after Fukushima, fish in Canada began bleeding from their gills, mouths, and eyeballs. This “disease” has been ignored by the government and has decimated native fish populations, including the North Pacific herring. Elsewhere in Western Canada, independent scientists have measured a 300% increase in the level of radiation. According to them, the amount of radiation in the Pacific Ocean is increasing every year. Why is this being ignored by the mainstream media? It might have something to do with the fact that the US and Canadian governments have banned their citizens from talking about Fukushima so “people don’t panic.”
Fukushima Radiation Has Contaminated The Entire Pacific Ocean (And It's Going To Get Worse) | Zero Hedge

It hasn't even gotten started yet.

Chernobyl was One reactor, it's been capped, and there as NO PLUTONIUM.

oh yeah, you get your info from the WAPO
eat salmon

That's a very long reply I won't bother to read. I'm glad it occupied your time though.
 
Blackleaf
#112
Rescue teams 'find bodies of 42 people crammed into one room in Grenfell Tower as they desperately tried to shield from the fire'

It's been claimed bodies of 42 people were found in one room at Grenfell Tower

Man was filmed saying his friend, a firefighter, saw the horrific scene himself

The number has not yet been confirmed by police or the fire service

Police have confirmed 79 are thought to have died but the true figure is thought by residents and locals to be much higher

By Katie French For Mailonline
19 June 2017

The bodies of up to 42 people were found in just one room by search and rescue teams combing Grenfell Tower after the fatal fire last week, it has been claimed.

It is believed the remains of the group were discovered inside one of the flats by recovery teams who have been searching the White City tower block over the last few days.

A video uploaded on YouTube shows an unnamed man speaking in front of the burned out tower. He said: 'He said: 'I've got a friend who works for the fire brigade here, yeah? Yesterday on the phone he said they found about 42 bodies in one room, all hiding together.

No-one knows that.'


A video uploaded on YouTube shows an unnamed man speaking in front of the burned out tower. He claims the bodies of 42 people were found in just one room


Residents tried to escape from Grenfell Tower in west London in the early hours of Wednesday morning



Harrowing images show the charred remains of flats and hallways that were once home to hundreds of people before the blaze broke out on Wednesday morning


'It's only because we know the brother, he's a fireman, that he told us this - but he can't tell you lot that.

'He can't come out because he'll probably get the sack or something. But he said they found 42 bodies in one room, bruv. In one room.

From children to old people.'


A photograph shows the destruction caused to the lifts inside the 27-storey tower block

The number has not been confirmed by police or the fire service.

A spokesman for London Fire Service said he would be unable to confirm or deny the information and said the police were handling the investigation.

Shocking footage shows devastation inside a Grenfell Tower flat
:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POCfNcHBeoM

Read more: London fire rescue teams 'find 41 bodies in one room' | Daily Mail Online
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Last edited by Blackleaf; Jun 20th, 2017 at 05:41 AM..
 
spaminator
#113
600 buildings in England also have 'combustible' cladding | World | News | Toron
 
Danbones
#114
what about the ones with wood?
 
TenPenny
#115
Are there many 24 storey buildings with wood exteriors?
 
EagleSmack
+2
#116
At least it was a green and sustainable building. These sacrifices are necessary.
 
Corduroy
+1
#117
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post


It's been claimed bodies of 42 people were found in one room at Grenfell Tower

That's horrifying. This incident seems to have a long history of people being concerned with issues other than the welfare of the people living in this building. Budgets and regulations and aesthetics take priority. People aren't even noticed. And when a tragedy like this happens you see the numbers and not the people. So far 79 people have been confirmed dead. That's a huge number. But 42 all dying in one room because they all gathered together to escape the fire for as long as they can; that's humanizing.
 
Danbones
#118
Quote: Originally Posted by TenPenny View Post

Are there many 24 storey buildings with wood exteriors?

the number 24 is your private hallucination
START BRAIN BEFORE ENGAGING KEYBOARD!!!!

Of course in your world, wood doesn't burn
that's for your butt to do
 
HarperCons
+1
#119
Quote: Originally Posted by Walter View Post

You're funny.

I'm right, you're senile.

Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

So you want the capitalists to quit building free housing for the freeloaders? Cut off welfare for commies? Funny how it is always capitalists that the service clubs come to for donations to keep the freeloaders brats from starving to death in the cold and dark.

Capitalists building free housing? What? That's very anti-capitalist to help people in need, without profiting off their suffering.

Next you will defend white slave owners for treating their black slaves with a modicum of decency.
 
MHz
#120
Quote: Originally Posted by HarperCons View Post

I'm right, you're senile.


Capitalists building free housing? What? That's very anti-capitalist to help people in need, without profiting off their suffering.

The paid rents are based on the flats being as modern as sprinklers. Government and industry work hand in hand doing shit like that. Same in Alberta, give the welfare people more money and it goes to rent/utilities/food. There are no other options.