Imam leads Democrats in prayer of conversion


CDNBear
#1
Imam leads Democrats in prayer of conversion
Muslim leader at party's winter meeting
also asks Allah to stop 'the occupation'


Posted: February 3, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern




2007 WorldNetDaily.com
http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=54085

With heads bowed reverently, Democrats were led in prayer yesterday by a Muslim imam who essentially asked Allah to assist in converting the party members to Islam, according to a scholar and author.
Robert Spencer, director of Jihad Watch and author of "The Truth about Muhammad," took note of the invocation given at the Democratic National Committee winter meeting by Husham Al-Husainy, imam of the Karbalaa Islamic Education Center, a shiite mosque in Dearborn, Mich.
According to a transcript of the prayer, which can be seen on a video clip provided by HotAir.com , the imam said:
In the name of God the most merciful, the most compassionate. We thank you, God, to bless us among your creations. We thank you, God, to make us as a great nation. We thank you God, to send us your messages through our father Abraham and Moses and Jesus and Muhammad. Through you, God, we unite. So guide us to the right path. The path of the people you bless, not the path of the people you doom. Help us God to liberate and fill this earth with justice and peace and love and equality. And help us to stop the war and violence, and oppression and occupation. Ameen.
Spencer, in a post on his Jihad Watch website, said he found it interesting to see the Muslim leader praying, "in veiled terms to be sure, for their conversion to Islam, and, oh yes, for the destruction of Israel ("And help us to stop the war and violence, and oppression and occupation").
"Imagine if a Christian priest or minister had prayed at a DNC meeting that those attending be guided away from the path of those doomed by God," Spencer said.
He explained the imam was echoing the Fatiha, the first sura, or chapter, of the Quran and the most common prayer of Islam.
It asks Allah: "Show us the straight path, the path of those whom Thou hast favored; not the (path) of those who earn Thine anger nor of those who go astray."
The traditional Islamic understanding is that the "straight path" is Islam, Spencer points out.
On the other hand, he continued, the path of those who have earned Allah's anger are the Jews, and those who have gone astray are the Christians.
Spencer cited the classic Quranic commentator Ibn Kathir, who says:
Allah asserted that the two paths He described here are both misguided when He repeated the negation "not." These two paths are the paths of the Christians and Jews, a fact that the believer should beware of so that he avoids them.
The path of the believers is knowledge of the truth and abiding by it. In comparison, the Jews abandoned practicing the religion, while the Christians lost the true knowledge. This is why "anger" descended upon the Jews, while being described as "led astray" is more appropriate of the Christians. Those who know, but avoid implementing the truth, deserve the anger, unlike those who are ignorant. The Christians want to seek the true knowledge, but are unable to find it because they did not seek it from its proper resources. This is why they were led astray. We should also mention that both the Christians and the Jews have earned the anger and are led astray, but the anger is one of the attributes more particular of the Jews.
Allah said about the Jews, (Those (Jews) who incurred the curse of Allah and His wrath) (5:60). The attribute that the Christians deserve most is that of being led astray, just as Allah said about them, (Who went astray before and who misled many, and strayed (themselves) from the right path) (5:77).

http://www.discoverthenetwork.org/Ar...%20prayer.html
 
snfu73
#2
So, what exactly are you trying to get across to us with this post? What is your purpose in posting this?

I don't see what the whole problem is.
 
hermanntrude
#3
i dont see that that prayer asks for conversion any more than the lord's prayer.
 
RomSpaceKnight
#4
Heard "worse" from evangelical fundamentalist christian preachers. Wouldn't be the first priest who tried to slip in a political statement in to a sermon or paryer. The whole post is from a neocon site. Mayhaps the imam has som e views that the US gove does not support. The extention of an invitation to address the crowd and lead a prayer is a sign of openess to discussion. Democrats look like they are being the "big man" and extending an open hand first.
 
selfactivated
#5
Quote:

In the name of God the most merciful, the most compassionate. We thank you, God, to bless us among your creations. We thank you, God, to make us as a great nation. We thank you God, to send us your messages through our father Abraham and Moses and Jesus and Muhammad. Through you, God, we unite. So guide us to the right path. The path of the people you bless, not the path of the people you doom. Help us God to liberate and fill this earth with justice and peace and love and equality. And help us to stop the war and violence, and oppression and occupation. Ameen.

I would say Goddess Fae and God Pan but we say a prayer close to this at Circle. Its one of acceptance and allowing for other ways of thought and belief.

Did I miss the point?

 
gopher
No Party Affiliation
#6
There is absolutely nothing in that prayer that calls for conversion of anyone. But once again it shows how people are deluded into believing anything because they are so blinded by their bigotry.
 
CDNBear
#7
Where is the bigotry?

Just a news flash, thought it was interesting. Though we could discuss it, but seeing as many people have their own bigotry about others, they see an alterior motive, where there is none.

No problem, just gotta love the hypocracy.
 
ceast
#8
The Democrats seem to have an obsession with Islam lately... I have to say it would be somewhat Ironic having a Gulianni vs Barack Hussein Obama race.
 
CDNBear
#9
Quite frankly, I'm all for the Dems courting the Muslims. American government might actually learn something about Islam and stop trying to crusade a path through its ass, to the oil.

Hell, it may even go a long way to resolving some of the issues the Islamic world have with America.

Wouldn't that be nice.
 
CDNBear
#10
bump




Here fishy fishy fishy! Troll bait.
 
gopher
No Party Affiliation
#11
Quote: Originally Posted by ceast View Post

The Democrats seem to have an obsession with Islam lately...


How so?
 
selfactivated
#12
Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBear View Post

bump




Here fishy fishy fishy! Troll bait.


LOLLLLLLLLLL I should beat you ROFLMFAO!!!!!!
 
CDNBear
#13
Quote: Originally Posted by selfactivated View Post

LOLLLLLLLLLL I should beat you ROFLMFAO!!!!!!

Stop being such a tease!!! Promises promises!
 
selfactivated
#14
I dont tease My follow through is perfect.
 

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