Birth control to save the planet


AnnaG
#61
Quote: Originally Posted by coldstream View Post

General and Specific relativity were developed by Einstein, and Quantum Mechanics were applied by Bohr and others in the early 20th Century. That's when they actually still condescended to hold their 'hypotheses' to experiment and proof.

huh? Condescended? Care to explain?
 
AnnaG
#62
Quote: Originally Posted by Niflmir View Post

Whatever you say.

What does this have to do with the carbon footprint of a child?

Nothing. He's trying, in some convoluted manner, to try convincing us that the human species by massively expanding its population is a good thing for the planet. I think what he said was something like
Quote:

There are NO LIMITS to growth.

That has been proven over and over. Thomas Malthus drew up the conceptual framework of the 'danger' of population in the 19th Century when he postulated that an arithmetic increase in food production would be unable to support a geometric increase in population.

It was used to rationalize some of the great holocausts of that century.. the lack of any remedies of the die offs of agricultural workers in India and the Carribean.. or of any governmental response to the Irish Potato Famine.. all seen as healthy reductions of excess and inferior populations.

It all fits into the massive frauds that have perpetuated themselves in the media and popular culture. Global Warming is the most prevalent lie, and easily disprovable for anyone with sense to look at the facts and the tawdry 'science' behind the theory.

But it all stems from an Atheological Pagan Postulate, of the evil nature of human 'infection' of pristine Mother Earth. It will produce nothing but chaos. Nothing will be more damaging to the biosphere than a collapse of the human population.

 
YukonJack
#63
I am pro-life, but if the fate of Earth depends on abortions, at least let the ones aborted be those who could, potentially, be liberals.
 
JLM
#64
Quote: Originally Posted by YukonJack View Post

I am pro-life, but if the fate of Earth depends on abortions, at least let the ones aborted be those who could, potentially, be liberals.

Or Conservatives or N.D.P. How many times do I have to tell you, Y.J. that they are all tarred with the same brush,- sneaky, lying, thieving bastards with their snouts in the trough (when they are not flying around the country at taxpayers' expense)
 
Cliffy
#65
Quote: Originally Posted by YukonJack View Post

I am pro-life, but if the fate of Earth depends on abortions, at least let the ones aborted be those who could, potentially, be liberals.

Yup The whole world should be as care free, tolerant and joyful like you Jack. What a great world it would be with nothing but conservatives standing around patting each other on the back side.
 
coldstream
#66
Quote: Originally Posted by AnnaG View Post

huh? Condescended? Care to explain?

Einstein's theory on relativity along with all of the companion hypotheses in Relativity and Quantum Mechanics made specific, experimentally defined and measurable predictions. Look closely at String theory and you'll find something completely different. It is mathematical abstraction that has no possible reality in the universe that our senses can ascertain. As such it IS a mystical commodity. Something of aesthetic and perhaps spiritual succour, but utterly without utility.
 
AnnaG
#67
Quote: Originally Posted by coldstream View Post

Einstein's theory on relativity along with all of the companion hypotheses in Relativity and Quantum Mechanics made specific, experimentally defined and measurable predictions. Look closely at String theory and you'll find something completely different. It is mathematical abstraction that has no possible reality in the universe that our senses can ascertain. As such it IS a mystical commodity. Something of aesthetic and perhaps spiritual succour, but utterly without utility.

So far. If string HYPOTHESIS turns out to be a reality, I have no doubts someone will find a practical use for its effects. After all if one gave a magnifying lens to a homo erectus, the guy would probably sharpen an edge and use it as a cutting instrument after playing with it by looking at things through. Perhaps one day the guy might notice the heat on his hand if he was in an appropriate position in relation to the sun.
The theory of relativity brought about an explanation for parallax besides Einstein's main intent. To suggest that string HYPOTHESIS will have nothing worthwhile to contribute is extremely short-sighted and presumptuous.
Last edited by AnnaG; Nov 9th, 2009 at 02:23 PM..
 
AnnaG
#68
At any rate, it just comes to a logical conclusion that the more people there are, the less other species there will be, unless somehow or other we can synthesize more elements, molecules, etc. out of basically nothing. The mass of the planet is simply the mass of the planet. It is quite constant and the only change is the dust it collects from space and the odd meteorite or something. More of one thing means less of another.
BTW, the mass of the Earth is approximately
5.9742 10 to the 24th kilograms
Last edited by AnnaG; Nov 9th, 2009 at 02:22 PM..
 
Cliffy
#69
Quote: Originally Posted by coldstream View Post

Einstein's theory on relativity along with all of the companion hypotheses in Relativity and Quantum Mechanics made specific, experimentally defined and measurable predictions. Look closely at String theory and you'll find something completely different. It is mathematical abstraction that has no possible reality in the universe that our senses can ascertain. As such it IS a mystical commodity. Something of aesthetic and perhaps spiritual succour, but utterly without utility.

Look closely at the God theory and you'll find something completely different (from reality). It is mental abstraction that has no possible reality in the universe that our senses can ascertain. As such it IS a mystical commodity. Something of aesthetic and perhaps spiritual succour, but utterly without utility.
 
Niflmir
#70
Quote: Originally Posted by coldstream View Post

Einstein's theory on relativity along with all of the companion hypotheses in Relativity and Quantum Mechanics made specific, experimentally defined and measurable predictions. Look closely at numerical analysis theory and you'll find something completely different. It is mathematical abstraction that has no possible reality in the universe that our senses can ascertain. As such it IS a mystical commodity. Something of aesthetic and perhaps spiritual succour, but utterly without utility.

Why are you arguing about this in this thread? If you started a thread on it, the issue would go nowhere. String theory does not have the prominence in science that you give it.

Moreover, it has absolutely nothing to do with this topic. You just come off as having an axe to grind.