Idle no more?

Mowich
#31
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

What great way to start tribal wars. Should the Dene kick out the Cree on their land?

The Mohawks are already on the warpath about mixed marriages.
 
Curious Cdn
#32
Quote: Originally Posted by Mowich View Post

The Mohawks are already on the warpath about mixed marriages.

That is a VERY old story going back 200++ years.
 
Mowich
+1
#33
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

That is a VERY old story going back 200++ years.

Well it is a good thing then that it finally went to court. And better yet that the plaintiffs got the ruling they wanted.

It appears that FNs are demanding marijuana legislation be put on idle until they can get together and have a big powwow with the government.
 
Danbones
#34
Well, the nice thing about being sovereign is that you get to do what you want to do inside of your own borders.

just like we do here in Canada...sort of
 
Curious Cdn
+1
#35
Quote: Originally Posted by Mowich View Post

Well it is a good thing then that it finally went to court. And better yet that the plaintiffs got the ruling they wanted.

It appears that FNs are demanding marijuana legislation be put on idle until they can get together and have a big powwow with the government.

I've actually known someone in that situation in Kahnawake some years ago. It is out-and-out discrimination to measure the amount of "Indian blood" to determine your fitness to live somewhere. It is a ghastly practise that does not belong in the 21st century. If ANYONE else said that you are not _______ enough to live in their neighbourhood, you'd be pilloried, charged, sued.
The First Nations have a special status but it sure as hell is not that special.


Marijuana was brought from the Old World by early settlers, to cultivate to make rope and fabric. They better not try the "traditional medicine" shtick to corner the legal pot market.
 
Tecumsehsbones
-1
#36
Quote: Originally Posted by Walter View Post

Haven't heard much lately so I will assume they are idle again. Old habits die hard.

Like your racist assumptions.
 
Danbones
#37
I know a non native someone who was just ejected, not just from the reserve, but from the relationship too, and this person is an absolute deadbeat who was just sucking up for the free ride. Other than dealing crappy dope to kids on the rez, he was NOT capable of working, so now he is on welfare, which is cutting into his drinking time.

No One has any sympathy for this creep, and everyone realizes you can't let dead WHITE nards like that into native life at all - they are almost as bad a bunch of abusers as pedophile priests.
 
Mowich
#38
'Short-sighted' new Kahnawake law excludes Mohawks adopting non-indigenous children | CBC News

Quote: Originally Posted by Danbones View Post

I know a non native someone who was just ejected, not just from the reserve, but from the relationship too, and this person is an absolute deadbeat who was just sucking up for the free ride. Other than dealing crappy dope to kids on the rez, he was NOT capable of working, so now he is on welfare, which is cutting into his drinking time.

No One has any sympathy for this creep, and everyone realizes you can't let dead WHITE nards like that into native life at all - they are almost as bad a bunch of abusers as pedophile priests.

Meanwhile............


Waneek Horn-Miller is a Kahnawake Mohawk, a former Olympic athlete and an avid human rights activist. She is fighting for her right to live in her community with her non-indigenous partner, Keith Morgan (left), and two children. (Waneek Horn-Miller)

Kahnawake First Nation attacking the human rights of its citizens | CBC News
 
Cliffy
#39
Meanwhile... anything to justify your prejudice...
 
Johnnny
#40
I don't get it. Are people against the judges ruling about the "marry out get out" thing? I'm kinda seeing a native girl off and on at the moment and some of you see me as destroying her culture by dating her?
 
Curious Cdn
+1
#41
Quote: Originally Posted by Johnnny View Post

I don't get it. Are people against the judges ruling about the "marry out get out" thing? I'm kinda seeing a native girl off and on at the moment and some of you see me as destroying her culture by dating her?

Date away, man. Who cares what a pack of pathetic internet troll wankers think?

Give her a kiss for me.
 
gerryh
#42
Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

Meanwhile... anything to justify your prejudice...


So, where do you stand on this issue? Do you agree with the courts, or do you agree with the Mohawks?
 
DaSleeper
#43
It's just misogyny.....
Until 1980 if you were born to a native man and a white woman you could claim Indian status, but not if you were born to a native woman and white man.
It also depends which Indian band of reserve you are dealing with...
A co-worker of mine in the 80's, actually went to Maniwaki to get his status card, since he was born of a native mother from there and white father.
I dunno how much it cost him......everything comes down to money these days.......
 
gerryh
+1
#44
I'm sure this is all whiteys fault also.
 
Mowich
#45
Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

Meanwhile... anything to justify your prejudice...

Don't be so quick to judge, Cliffy. I posted about Waneek Horn-Miller as a counterpoint to Dan's comments. One might think that the Mohawk's would welcome such an accomplished person on the rez.
 
Curious Cdn
+1
#46
Quote: Originally Posted by Mowich View Post

Don't be so quick to judge, Cliffy. I posted about Waneek Horn-Miller as a counterpoint to Dan's comments. One might think that the Mohawk's would welcome such an accomplished person on the rez.

One of the issues with Kahnawake is that it is crowded. It is essentially a suburb of Montreal and it is full up. The surrounding South Shore communities have grown and grown, hemmed them in and they have nowhere to expand to, themselves. I guess that there are a few urban reservations around Vancouver, like that but none of them would be as old, established and built up as Kahnawake.
 
OpposingDigit
+1
#47
I think that this whole "Reconciliation" thing is a total setup by the federal government. The Liberals are just buying time and peace until they are voted out of office in the future.

They are just pumping cash at First Nations Peoples so that they can avoid having to deal with what does the word "Nation" mean"

All the cash can be stopped at any time. But a legal determination of "Nation" is forever, and both the federal and First Nations People hold quite different views on what "Nation" means.

If this issue gets to court and it goes against what First Nations hold as a bedrock anchor of their existence, all hell will break loose.

Idle No More will be the least of our worries.
 
Twin_Moose
#48
Quote: Originally Posted by Johnnny View Post

I don't get it. Are people against the judges ruling about the "marry out get out" thing? I'm kinda seeing a native girl off and on at the moment and some of you see me as destroying her culture by dating her?

For the ruling personally
 
Hoid
#49
Reconciliation a setup?

It's possible. Harper talked a bunch of reconciliation and delivered thin air. If Trudeau is talking reconciliation he will obviously be delivering thin air.

So it actually does sound like a fed sort of thing.
 
petros
+2
#50
DNA test everybody on the Rez. Anybody that has non Beringian genes, cut their status card in two.
 
pgs
+2
#51
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

DNA test everybody on the Rez. Anybody that has non Beringian genes, cut their status card in two.

That would be pretty much everyone .
 
petros
+2
#52
It certainly would.
 
OpposingDigit
+1
#53
It seems to me that some of the same people who support a "Jewish State" rather than an "Israeli State" claim that First Nations are acting improperly. Israel is using the same language as the First Nations Peoples are. The reason given to deny the Palestinians the right of return is because the Israeli State would leave Jewish Folks as a minority. When first formed, the world recognized Israel as "The State Of Israel" and not "The Jewish State Of Israel".
 
Twin_Moose
+1
#54
Trudeau pleads for time on Indigenous agenda

Quote:

GATINEAU, Que. - Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is asking for patience on his government's Indigenous rights agenda, saying he believes it is better to get it right rather than try to get things done quickly.
During an appearance at a special gathering of the Assembly of First Nations today, Trudeau was pressed by a chief to commit to tangible action on his government's promises to First Nations and Indigenous peoples and to act before the next election.
Trudeau says he understands the impatience that exists among many First Nations and acknowledges that no group of people in Canada deserves to be cynical about government promises more than Indigenous Canadians.
But changes can be done quickly or they can be done right and those two things are mutually exclusive, Trudeau says. The prime minister is promoting his rights recognition and implementation framework, which he announced in February, as a key to ensure his promise of a new nation-to-nation approach to Indigenous relations is not repealed by future governments.
He is repeating his commitment to work with individual First Nations and Indigenous Peoples on building better relationships, but stresses that it takes time, because each community has different needs.

I'm sure glad the Brits. set up that treasury fund to draw money from, otherwise I would be asking how much will this cost us now.
 
petros
+1
#55
Let's go after their casino money.

I'm white, I'm not allowed to set up my own.
 
Twin_Moose
#56
Did you hear the one where a Manitoba FN man got acquitted for hunting on private land by Swift Current by the Sask. Supreme court because it was in a slough and distinctly different than cultivated land?
 
Tecumsehsbones
#57
Quote: Originally Posted by Twin_Moose View Post

Did you hear the one where a Manitoba FN man got acquitted for hunting on private land by Swift Current by the Sask. Supreme court because it was in a slough and distinctly different than cultivated land?

Provincial Supreme Courts try criminal cases?

Hmm. . . that's a new one on me. Down hereabouts, State Supreme Courts hear appeals. But, different countries, different laws.
 
Twin_Moose
#58
Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

Provincial Supreme Courts try criminal cases?

Hmm. . . that's a new one on me. Down hereabouts, State Supreme Courts hear appeals. But, different countries, different laws.


Appeal court acquits Indigenous man of illegal hunting charge

Quote:

Saskatchewan’s highest court has overturned the conviction of an Indigenous man who was accused of illegally hunting moose on private property.
Kristjan Pierone, of Treaty Five in Manitoba, was previously found guilty of unlawful hunting after killing a moose on the property of Benmoen Farming Company Ltd., near Swift Current, Sask., in September 2015. The moose was killed in a slough approximately 70 metres from the road.
Pierone pleaded not guilty and was initially acquitted at trial, but the Crown successfully appealed the case and secured a conviction. The Crown had argued that Pierone did not have the right to claim treaty hunting rights within Treaty Four land. The Saskatchewan Court of Appeal ruled on Apr. 27 that the appeal judge incorrectly reviewed the case and the impact of the evidence. The appeal court wrote in its decision that the slough (a wetland area on the property) was “geographically distinct” from the farming company’s cultivated land, and was incompatible for the company’s use. “Nothing on the evidence suggests the cultivate part of the quarter section had been involved in or affected by Mr. Pierone’s hunt,” the decision said.
Heather Bair, vice-chief of the Federation of Sovereign and Indigenous Nations, hailed the acquittal as an affirmation of First Nations’ inherent treaty rights for hunting.
“Many First Nations people rely on wildlife and plants for sustenance,” she said in a news release. “This is an important issue and we will follow up with the Minister of Environment.”

 
Tecumsehsbones
#59
Quote: Originally Posted by Twin_Moose View Post

Appeal court acquits Indigenous man of illegal hunting charge

Ah, I see. Your press doesn't know the difference between an acquittal and overturning a conviction.

That makes a lot more sense, thanks.
 
Twin_Moose
+2
#60
Probably me I don't know the difference and I hope I never have to
 

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