Alberta election April 16


Twin_Moose
Conservative
#31
Tristin Hopper: Alberta doesn’t hate the NDP as much as you’d think

Opinion piece
 
coldstream
#32
Key issues. Alberta Provincial Election Debate. - Some notes

Carbon Tax and AGW
Anthropogenic Global Warming (not ‘Climate Change’ which is natural, real and has been with us since the beginning of geological history) is a gross and obvious fraud. The carbon tax places a massive impediment on Canadian trade and industry especially when dealing with an American administration that is wise enough to see it is a scam. It is a political and ideologlical agenda in support of a radical anti-human environmental cult without an ounce of scientific merit.

This cult has gone into a frenzy of hysteria as its become obvious that the Northern Hemisphere is entering a cyclical cooling phase that will likely last for several hundred years. That would be a reflection of the Mini Ice Age that gripped Europe from 1300 to 1700 (and of which we know nothing of its cause). The AGW industry uses selective evidence, demoguogery and lately the exploitive use of children to drive the debate to one based on pathos, fear mongering and sentiment and to subvert all reason and comprehensive assessment empircal evidence.

It misrepresents all weather anomolies as a function of AGW such as storms when they represent cold weather events. It simply makes up crises in polar regions. It has a slick publicity campaign fully supported by mainstream media that produces doomsday scenarios backed up by dirge like music to appeal to the lowest and most sensational of the debate.

Taxation
One of the worst proposals of the night was put out by David Khan, the Liberal leader, who proposed replacing income taxes with a uniform sales tax. This falls into the NeoLib/NeoCon obsession with replacing progressive taxation with regressive sales taxes. We need progressive income taxes that equitably shares the tax burden. Corporate taxes should be structured to encourage job creating investment.

Oil and Relations with the Feds
The key question of is NOT whether to build pipelines, but the level of refinement of the petroleum that is being shipped abroad. The issue comes down to a national policy on developing refining capacity and exporting value added product. Canada needs to invest in refineries more than it does in pipelines. Canada also needs to nationalize its petroleum resources and its primary refining industry. Unlike the Petrocan fiasco this retains the competitive, private intermediate processing, distribution, and, marketing of petroleum products.

Homosexuality
One the NDPs program to lock in and affirm transient homosexual and gender confusion into vulnerable adolescents beyond the approval of parents and the traditional religious views of some UCP candidates (notable Mark Smith, a Baptist preacher). This is the flagship cause the New Age. Something that has condemned millions to lives of morbidity, disease, futility, violence, depression, isolation, early death. Through the lie that homosexuality involves anything except sodomy and a willful rebellion against natural and supernatural law and individual responsibility.The lie that it is genetically determined and inevitable rather than willful and gratuitous.

No amount of legislation, political affirmation, ‘pride’ celebration, academic indoctrination will ever change the fundamental character of homosexuality. As an orientation it is intrinsically disordered, in practice it is a manifest evil, as an expression in faith it is a mortal sin. That is written into the moral source code of the universe by the Creator; beyond the authority of us creatures to change. Doing so will ruin lives and will disintegrate and debauch society.

The mere fact that this is even open to debate and that it forms a minority perspective is a sign of society in extreme distress. One that has lost all sense of its origins, identity, optimism, cohesion, future, and is wallowing in despair and dysfunction. Homosexuality is utterly corrosive to individuals, families and society.

A key intervention in developing healthy, family oriented sexual attitudes occurs with parents. They have a right to form those attitudes over those of an amoral and debauched political paradigm. It is unconscienable for the governmental and educational agencies to ‘determine’ a young person’s sexual orientation and ‘support’ its growth into a life of misery and loneliness. Most especially in the confused and trying circumstances of adolescence (or even pre-adolescence).

Other Issues
Proportional Representation, supported by the Liberal Party, was defeated in a referendum in BC by 62 - 38%. It has failed wherever it has been tried. Notably in Israel, which has never had a majority government. It ends up handing immense power to marginal, often one issue, fringe parties as ‘king makers’.

It hands power party hacks and petty ideologues snf away from the direct control of constituents. Preferential ballots (instant runoff) by far and away offers the fairest way to reflect the will of the majority of the voters. It most effectively returns power to the voters, and, most clearly focusses representatives responsibility to their constituents (as opposed to party operators, or, corporate benefactors).

Sum Up
It looks like the UCP is likely to win and likely the best option. I’m always suspicious of groups that call themselves Conservatives are really NeoConservatives.. laissez-faire ecomonic liberals, cultural libertarians, primarily interested in corporate welfare and obssessing about the deficit by imposing austerity. It leads to destructive policies of globalism, free trade, deregulation, privatization, regressive taxation. The last thing Alberta needs is a Reagan/Thatcher trickledowner.
Last edited by coldstream; Apr 5th, 2019 at 01:15 PM..
 
Cannuck
No Party Affiliation
#33
Quote: Originally Posted by B00Mer View Post

Says a freeloader living in his sisters basement

My living arrangement has what to do with Klein’s policies?
 
B00Mer
No Party Affiliation
+3
#34
Quote: Originally Posted by Cannuck View Post

My living arrangement has what to do with Klein’s policies?

Sorry for upsetting you again
 
Cannuck
No Party Affiliation
#35
I see it was a difficult question for you.
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
#36
5 things to expect from an NDP or UCP government


NDP
spend

1. Roll out $25-a-day child care: NDP
2. Build new schools: NDP
3. Slash emergency room waits: NDP
4. Get a pipeline built: NDP
5. Stick to the climate plan: NDP

UCP
Cut and slash

1. Bye bye carbon tax: UCP
2. Farm and labour changes: UCP
3. Tax cuts and red tape reduction: UCP
4. Oil-by-rail and the war room: UCP
5. Health-care review: UCP

Click the link and read the whole article
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
#37
Calgary NDP candidate apologizes for sharing meme about jihad, the Crusades
 
B00Mer
No Party Affiliation
+1
#38
I was amazed at the NDP signs out in Canmore, Alberta.. a bunch of transplants from Ontario that have moved to Alberta and basically destroyed it with thier fukked up politics.
 
Cliffy
Free Thinker
#39



For those of you who know me, I generally post what I find amusing...and this photo cracks me up! I had to make a meme out of it! It wreaks of “Look at me...I’m just like you Joe Albertan! But we all know this career politician has never once gotten his hands, shoes or truck dirty!
*Born and raised in Ontario and Saskatchewan and lived most of his life in Ottawa (not in the wealthiest Calgary riding he represents)
*went to private schools (Jesuit college)
*started his political career as a liberal, then changed parties whenever there was a new opportunity for him
*politician since age 29
*not married, has no children (claims to have lived in his mothers basement to be eligible to represent his Calgary riding)
*promising to get the economy back on track as if it has nothing to do with the world market!
*This is the party that pissed away all of the oil money in the Heritage Trust Fund!

He thinks we’re stupid enough to believe the drop in oil prices is controlled by Rachel Notley - just like he thinks we’re stupid enough to believe he’s “one of us”. Don’t be fooled! #wolfinsheepsclothing - Carol Knott
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
#40
Quote:

*This is the party that pissed away all of the oil money in the Heritage Trust Fund!

Seems to not know the NDP raided the heritage fund first year in office

Albertans want more pipelines and a diversified economy, according to Vote Compass data

This poll seems to have be taken mostly from Urbanites

Kenney deemed 'winner' of leaders debate, Vote Compass suggests
 
Hoid
#41
the Heritage Trust Fund has been a joke for decades
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
+1
#42
See you in court: B.C. responds to Jason Kenney’s threat to ‘turn off the taps’ day 1, if elected
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
+1
#43
Desperate times in Calgary raising residential property tax at the same time lowering commercial property tax

Calgary city council votes 8-7 to increase residential taxes by 3.45 per cent
 
VIBC
No Party Affiliation
#44
Quote: Originally Posted by Twin_Moose View Post

See you in court: B.C. responds to Jason Kenney’s threat to ‘turn off the taps’ day 1, if elected

“Unless John Horgan ends his unconstitutional fight against Alberta energy exports, the people of B.C. will need to get used to paying well over $1.70/L for gas as the result of NDP anti-pipeline obstructionism.” (Jason Kenney)

I personally believe I'll be paying $2/L and more in the near-ish future. It will be part of the price to pay for slowly phasing out the oil industry. I will hate having to pay and can ill afford it but I'll willingly do so. There's a price for everything.
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
+2
#45
Quote: Originally Posted by VIBC View Post

“Unless John Horgan ends his unconstitutional fight against Alberta energy exports, the people of B.C. will need to get used to paying well over $1.70/L for gas as the result of NDP anti-pipeline obstructionism.” (Jason Kenney)
I personally believe I'll be paying $2/L and more in the near-ish future. It will be part of the price to pay for slowly phasing out the oil industry. I will hate having to pay and can ill afford it but I'll willingly do so. There's a price for everything.


Of course we will the new economy of alternative energy needs fossil fuels to be more expensive than the alternative and the only way to do it is to artificially inflate it by putting faux tax on it like a Carbon tax
 
pgs
Free Thinker
+1
#46
Quote: Originally Posted by VIBC View Post

“Unless John Horgan ends his unconstitutional fight against Alberta energy exports, the people of B.C. will need to get used to paying well over $1.70/L for gas as the result of NDP anti-pipeline obstructionism.” (Jason Kenney)

I personally believe I'll be paying $2/L and more in the near-ish future. It will be part of the price to pay for slowly phasing out the oil industry. I will hate having to pay and can ill afford it but I'll willingly do so. There's a price for everything.

Do you see airplanes and ocean liners changing to alternative energy any time soon ?
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
#47
New poll suggests more voters support UCP but NDP gaining ground 1 week before Alberta election

Elections Alberta says a whopping 140,000 Albertans cast a ballot on Day 1 of advance polling
 
Cliffy
Free Thinker
#48



The Alberta election is a garbage fire.

Throwback Sunday to when then former Conservative MP Jason Kenney conceded that gays and lesbians could marry but only to heterosexuals to procreate.



So what happens if heterosexual couples CAN''T have children, or don't want children? Should they not marry? Couldn't they adopt? What about homosexual people adopting children? Or couples who can't have babies using artificial insemination? What a F....ng A.. hole. Those voting for the UCP because they don't like Notley, are just as (*&&$ as Kenney is. - Hans Sparboom
 
Hoid
#49
Kenney is a good choice to lead the deplorables.
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
#50
Rachel Notley on why the NDP deserves a second chance

Albertans prepare to elect a government in a climate of deep anxiety

Quote:

Rose Klatt came to Olds, Alta., from the Philippines to fulfil a dream to open her own cafe. Her restaurant, with its bright green walls and authentic Filipino cuisine, quickly became a popular spot to catch up on local events.
But the bell above her door rarely rings these days. The severe economic downturn in the province is dragging down her small community, she said, and nobody seems to have the money to eat out. A year after taking ownership of the cafe in this town an hour's drive north of Calgary, Klatt said, she's barely making enough to stay open.
"There's not so much excitement anymore because of the economy," she said, adding she can see her dream "going down the hole."
She's not the only one. There's a lingering unease in Alberta as provincial election day approaches. Many voters remain unconvinced that any of the people running to be premier, or the four main parties they represent, can turn things around.
Albertans cast their ballots on April 16. The campaign is winding down now, with the governing New Democrats under Rachel Notley running a distant second in most polls against the United Conservative Party under former federal cabinet minister Jason Kenney.
The province's economy is still limping after years of economic setbacks. Alberta's oilpatch — the biggest industry in the province — is selling its product below the world price, while the pipeline projects that were supposed to open up new markets have hit one regulatory wall after another.
A 'polarizing' election
A sharp drop in the world price of oil in 2014 led to layoffs and the collapse of some companies in Alberta's energy sector. Months of delays to the Trans Mountain pipeline expansion project have ramped up the sense of uncertainty in the oilpatch while prolonging a transportation bottleneck between the oilsands and refineries.
This is a "polarizing" election centred on the economy, said Lori Williams, a political science professor at Mount Royal University in Calgary. And as the people of Olds know too well, the troubles of the oilpatch are never confined to it.
"This is Alberta, this is what we run off of," said Amber Supernant, another small business owner in Olds.
She knows the turmoil the oil sector is facing firsthand; her father, an energy sector worker, was left jobless for years as the economy soured.
Job losses have been staggering. Alberta lost almost 17,000 jobs in December alone.
The national unemployment rate is 5.8 per cent right now, while Alberta's is slowly recovering at 6.4 per cent, down from seven per cent a few months ago.
Still, in rural areas where pipelines and oil offer some of the only work available, the job numbers are far worse.
Edson is a tiny town built around the Yellowhead Highway leading west to Jasper. For a century it thrived on coal, lumber and other natural resources before following the oil money.
It's now home to a section of the Trans Mountain pipeline. The plan to expand that pipeline to the B.C. coast lured hundreds of job-seekers to the community last summer.
"There was a sense of positivity in the community that we haven't seen in a while," said Edson Mayor Kevin Zahara, who served as a press secretary in the province's former Progressive Conservative government.
Then the hammer fell in August, 2018, when a Federal Court of Appeal ruling quashed the $9.3-billion pipeline expansion project.
Like turning off a switch
The hotels emptied. The trailer park was desolate. The yard that supplied new pipeline materials to the Trans Mountain project, once bustling with activity, is quiet now.
"It was like somebody just took a switch and turned it off and the dark clouds reappeared," Zahara said.
Edson's unemployment rate is 10.1 per cent — almost double the provincial average.
NDP Premier Rachel Notley has struggled to get shovels in the ground for the Trans Mountain expansion project. At one point she was seen as an ally of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau for getting on board with the federal climate plan that culminated in this month's implementation of a tax on carbon in several provinces.
The platform of her opponent, Jason Kenney of the United Conservative Party, proposes reducing the deficit by freezing spending. Many experts warn the cuts could come at the expense of things like social programs.
And while the NDP and UCP platforms are quite different, they have one thing in common — many seem unconvinced that either plan can restore the province's boom times.
"No policy of any Alberta government can change things," Mark Jaccard of Simon Fraser University's School of Resource and Environmental Management told the Canadian Press.
Agriculture neglected
Alberta's energy sector tends to get the most attention from politicians and the media — but it's not the only industry hurting. Key agrifood industries are also struggling with uncertainty in their trading arrangements.
"We still think we're getting the short end of the straw here," said John Guelly, chair of the Alberta Canola Producers. China recently started blocking shipments of Canadian canola seed — almost certainly the fallout of a worsening diplomatic relationship with Beijing. China buys 40 per cent of Canada's crop, making it a difficult market to replace.
Notley's move to lease railcars to transport oil out of the province is a good example of how the separate plights of two key industries are clashing in Alberta, since farmers depend on freight rail to move their crops. "We only have so many rail lines and we have to share them," Guelly said.
Guelly — who belongs to the third generation of his family running the farm in Westlock, about an hour northwest of Edmonton — said he's tried to raise agricultural issues with the provincial government for years, to no avail.
All of which explains why the spectre of western alienation is resurfacing now, Williams said — with many Albertans spoiling for a fight with Ottawa.
With less than a week to go to voting day, many Albertans are struggling with their options. And many are wondering if the province's problems right now are too big for a premier to fix.

And it's dirty politics too, this one is kinda funny, but still dirty

Fake UCP signs add to Alberta election divisiveness
 
Cannuck
No Party Affiliation
#51
www.ctvnews.ca/politics/allegations-of-voter-fraud-levelled-against-jason-kenney-in-ucp-leadership-race-1.4375038

Social conservatives only concern themselves with a lack of integrity when it’s Justin.
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
#52
Alberta's rage has rendered Jason Kenney near-bulletproof

Kenney, Scheer launch two-pronged attack on Notley and Trudeau at Calgary rally

Quote:

CALGARY — Federal Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer and Alberta's United Conservative leader Jason Kenney braved a heavy snowstorm Thursday to attack what they call the "Notley-Trudeau alliance."
The two told a rally of hundreds of supporters gathered on a baseball diamond in Calgary that political change for Alberta and the country is in the wind.
"We know in our province what it's like when the NDP are in power provincially. We know the darkness that falls on the province when you have a government in power that constantly makes it harder and harder for people to get ahead," said Scheer, who is from Saskatchewan.
"That's why it's so important that Jason Kenney and the United Conservative Party form government this Tuesday here in Alberta."
Scheer said the first segment of a two-part plan will be completed when Kenney defeats NDP Premier Rachel Notley on Tuesday. The second part will happen this fall in the federal election.
"Rachel Notley and Justin Trudeau are cut from the same cloth. They both have the same attitude towards our energy sector. They have both demonized those who have built an industry," he told the crowd from the box of Kenney's blue pickup.
"It's been winter for far too long in Alberta. But spring is right around the corner. Spring is coming."
Hundreds of umbrella's were piled high with wet snow during the rally. Kenney maintained the weather theme in his speech.
"It might feel like winter today but spring is just five days away for Alberta," Kenney said to cheers.
"Are you ready to scrap the carbon tax? Are you ready to stand up to the special interests that are attacking Alberta? Are you ready in five days to end the Trudeau-Notley alliance?"
Kenney repeated key themes of his campaign. He told the crowd that record numbers of Albertans are out of work, the economy is struggling and support from Albertans to separate from Canada is growing.
He also criticized the NDP for using what he called American-style, attack ads during the campaign.
Notley said this week it's clear from the policies and comments from some UCP candidates that a Kenney government wouldn't protect some religions and LGBTQ groups.
She also urged voters to cast a ballot for the NDP instead of for the Liberals or Alberta Party — to join forces to beat the UCP.
Kenney said there is one question he will continue asking Notley until Tuesday's vote.
"Who are you supporting this October? Your anti-pipeline leader Jagmeet Singh or your anti-pipeline ally Justin Trudeau? Albertans deserve an answer."

Last edited by Twin_Moose; Apr 12th, 2019 at 09:45 AM..
 
Hoid
#53
Scheer and Kenney are bit players compared to Ford.

Doug Ford is the Fuhrer now
 
pgs
Free Thinker
+1
#54
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

Scheer and Kenney are bit players compared to Ford.

Doug Ford is the Fuhrer now

Practice your salute .
 
Cliffy
Free Thinker
-1
#55
Quote: Originally Posted by Twin_Moose View Post

Alberta's rage has rendered Jason Kenney near-bulletproof

Kenney, Scheer launch two-pronged attack on Notley and Trudeau at Calgary rally

I bet that gives all the white supremacists a woody. We all knew Alberia was a fascist state and that Notley was a one time wonder in Texas north.
 
petros
+1
#56
Why¿¿¿
 
VIBC
No Party Affiliation
#57
"a bunch of granola munchers in Washington, Oregon and California"

Beware, the politically-correct diet police are watching you!
 
Dixie Cup
Conservative
+2
#58
Quote: Originally Posted by Mowich View Post

Her choice of politics aside, I like Rachel Notley a lot. She's had a tough row to hoe and time after time has stood up as best she could for her province. Jason Kenney knows full well that the employment numbers he is so concerned about would not be much of a factor had the Federal government got the pipeline built. Listening to him today, an uneducated dolt might actually believe that Rachel is solely responsible for none of the lines being built - total unadulterated BS.



Actually, Rachel did sweet dick when she was first elected to ensure that Alberta's interests were represented in Ottawa and was not too enamored of the Oil Sands and she made no bones about it.


By the time she realized that she was on the wrong page, BC had already taken steps to ensure that outside eco freaks were allowed to stop the pipeline and that the Liberals weren't going to assist in getting it build and how Alberta AND Canada's economy was severely affected, she was too late. People took advantage of the fact that she was against oil and gas development but in order for her to actually "diversify" our economy the way she wanted, she realized that there was little to no money coming in and she desperately needed it. So she's raised taxes, instituted a carbon tax, but she's made a 360 degree turn and has decided that she needs to support the industry, even though its a little too late and got us more into debt and deficit in order to do what she wants. I think she was hoping things would turn around (via carbon tax - it didn't) and her "green' jobs would come into fruition (almost) immediately but alas that hasn't happened yet either.


So instead, we have a pipeline that is under Canadian ownership with nary a shovel in the ground, an immense deficit and debt that will have to be passed down to our children and their children and, unless we get a Conservative government in Ottawa, we will very unlikely ever get our oil to tide waters via a pipeline because Bills 48 and 69 will ensure that no resources (including mining btw) can ever be produced.


That's where we are now. I don't know that the UCP can really do anything unless there is a change of government federally. Guess we'll see what happens.
 
Hoid
#59
^tide waters

you know they mean business.
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
+1
#60
Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

I bet that gives all the white supremacists a woody. We all knew Alberia was a fascist state and that Notley was a one time wonder in Texas north.

It gives me a woody knowing that the patch is going to start firing up again, lots of work coming
 

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