The disbeliever is haughty


Torch light
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Any disbeliever (= the atheist or the idolater) .. the idolater includes the enthusiastic about some persons like Jesus, Ali, the Baha .. etc.

So any disbeliever is haughty
Any disbeliever is a wrong-doer.

How the disbeliever is haughty: because he sees the evidence before his eyes and yet he evades it, and says insistently: where is evidence?

In other words: the evidence is there, but he ignores it.

Example: About God the Creator: many evidences .. and yet the atheist Dawkins and his group deny such evidences and say: these are not evidences.

Moreover, the enthusiastic and the idolater follow the traditions of their people rather than the evident Commandments of God, particularly the First Commandment: that God is One, and we should love God more than others and should glorify God alone ... yet he adds to God others as equals or peers or patrons like: Jesus, Ali, the Baha, the saints, the imams and the idols.
 
Johnnny
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I don't believe you
 
Torch light
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SECOND:

I asked many enthusiastics about the imams and others like Jesus Christ:
Who created you: God or Ali?
he said: God of course.
I said: Who provides for you: God or Hussein?
he said: God of course; He is our True Master.
I said: Who protects you: God or the saints?
he said: Certainly God protects and provides for us.
I said: Is it Jesus Christ that created you, then provided for you, and protects you?
He said: The Christ cannot protect himself, neither does he provide for me, nor did he create me!
I said: Therefore, you should show gratitude to God alone, not to others.

Quran 35: 3, which means:
(O people remember the grace of God to you [and show gratitude to Him];
is there any creator, apart from God, who provides for you out of the sky
d and the earth e ?
No god [in the universe] but He;
how then are you perverted [from the way of the truth to the misguidance?]
)
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3 d With the rain.
3 e With the plant, trees, fruits and cattle.

http://quran-ayat.com/pret/35.htm#a35_3
quran-ayat.com/pret/35.htm#a35_3
Last edited by Torch light; Aug 16th, 2018 at 05:11 PM..
 
Johnnny
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#4
Naw you're lying.
 
Torch light
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THIRD :

Another example concerning God is the Absolute Disposer in the creation:

I asked some who served in the military in the Iraqi army:

If the captain or the leader of the military unit .. if he is powerful, he has a strong control of his unit .. the decisions will issue from him alone .. on other one: whether officer or deputy officer can take decisions out of his control.
But if the leader of the unit is weak .. there will be many sub-leaders, and many will have decisions out of control .. therefore, the unit will be out of control.

So what do you think about God: Is He All-Powerful or not?
Of course, God is the Most Powerful of all His creatures, therefore, God will not allow the eccentric powers other than Himself (even though such eccentric powers be the Christ or Prophet Mohammed, or Ali or anyone else.)

So God does not accept the intercession of His servants: the Christ, Mohammed, Moses or Gabriel the angel concerning the affairs of His creatures in the life of the World, or else everything will be corrupted .. because it is written in the Quran interpretation that all people want to be kings .. so God will not accept the intercession in the affairs of His creation.

Quran 23: 71, which means:
(And if [God:] the Just had followed their desires [about the intercession], surely the heavens and the earth and whosoever [living being] is therein would have been corrupted. a)
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71 a So ‘the Truth’ or ‘the Just’ is God; and ‘their desires’ are about the intercession which they ascribed to the angels, and said: “They intercede for us before God, so God will give us what we want by means of their intercession.”

So God denied their words, and said: Had God the Just followed their desires: to give them what they want by means of the intercession of the angels and other prophets, then the planets with all the living beings on them would have been corrupted.

That is because people are different among themselves according to the difference in their opinions, minds and demands; so that each one of them asks of God a sentence against his opponent, and everyone of them wants to be the king and president of his country; therefore, if God had given them their requests, then the planets and all their inhabitants would have corrupted because of the opposition and dissension among people[/U].

For this reason, God does not accept the intercession of any angel or prophet about that, lest the order and harmony may be disordered and life may be distorted.

http://quran-ayat.com/pret/23.htm#a23_71
quran-ayat.com/pret/23.htm#a23_71
Last edited by Torch light; Aug 16th, 2018 at 05:40 PM..
 
EagleSmack
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I don't believe you either.
 
Torch light
#7
N.B.

No intercession in the life of the World, and no intercession in the Afterlife following death.

The intercession will be after the conclusion of the Final Judgment, when God will allow some prophets, righteous men and angels to intercede for the behalf of some monotheist believers who have some sins .. so that by such intercession, such sinners (being believers not idolaters) will be forgiven their sins and be admitted to Paradise in Heaven.
Such intercession as a whole is up to God alone, and none can intercede unless according to His agreement.
The intercessor cannot intercede for the idolater including the enthusiastics even thought they are his own relatives
So that Prophet Abraham cannot intercede for Tarah his father, neither can Prophet Noah intercede for his grandson Canaan, nor can Mohammed intercede for his uncle Abu Lahab.

http://www.quran-ayat.com/hour/an_ho...ively_Be_to_Go
quran-ayat.com/hour/an_hour_with_ghosts.htm#The_Devotion_Should_Exclus ively_Be_to_Go

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Quote: Originally Posted by Johnnny View Post

I don't believe you

Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmack View Post

I don't believe you either.

You are the unbelievers (or disbelievers.)
 
EagleSmack
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Quote: Originally Posted by Torch light View Post




You are the unbelievers (or disbelievers.)






Well I believe that!


So I am a Believer and much less haughtier than before!
 
DaSleeper
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Don't answer him......like jehovah witnesses it's an excuse to for him to proselytize his bullshite!
 
Cliffy
+1 / -1
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The disbeliever is usually well educated and has read many holy books, that is why he is a disbeliever. Most atheists know the bible better than most Christians do. Most atheists in Muslim countries have already had their heads chopped off.
 
darkbeaver
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Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

The disbeliever is usually well educated and has read many holy books, that is why he is a disbeliever. Most atheists know the bible better than most Christians do. Most atheists in Muslim countries have already had their heads chopped off.

muslim countrys? Most Muslims have a

can it be bombed outta them? That,s an expensive questrion.
 
Danbones
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Happy bombs?

People usually can't fight while they are being tickled.
 
darkbeaver
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Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

The disbeliever is usually well educated and has read many holy books, that is why he is a disbeliever. Most atheists know the bible better than most Christians do. Most atheists in Muslim countries have already had their heads chopped off.


I believe in the Gods. And the big guy,

Americans don,t have heads.

They have hearts

Obviously they don,t drink enough t o think clearly.

Thier policy is a result of sobrity we are tolded. But you have to be very drunk to believe that
 
Danbones
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#14


Yes, Virginia, there is a turkey!
 
EagleSmack
#15
You guys are sounding very haughty.
 
Danbones
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#16
Thats me on the right...


Sales is my strong point!
 
darkbeaver
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Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmack View Post

You guys are sounding very haughty.

Nonscence, even the tinyest deviation brings about imperial counteragitprop, fuk off Smack

You should be banned.
 
EagleSmack
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Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaver View Post

Nonscence, even the tinyest deviation brings about imperial counteragitprop, fuk off Smack

You should be banned.


You're Haughty!
 
Walter
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Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeper View Post

Don't answer him......like jehovah witnesses it's an excuse to for him to proselytize his bullshite!

I admire the JW’s, they have guts and conviction. I engage them in conversation when they come to my door and I take their literature if they take mine.

Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

The disbeliever is usually well educated and has read many holy books, that is why he is a disbeliever. Most atheists know the bible better than most Christians do. Most atheists in Muslim countries have already had their heads chopped off.

Utter bullshit.
 
Cliffy
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Quote: Originally Posted by Walter View Post

Utter bullshit.

Udder bovine excrement.
 
Torch light
#21
The intercession or redemption is the excuse of the Zionists of old: others like Christians and Muslims may have learned it from the ancient Wicked Zionists.

The ancient Zionists thought they were the Chosen People of God and preferred by Him .. therefore, as they thought, they would not be punished in Hell fire (may be only for 7 days when they worshiped the calf statue.)

Their rabbis and religious men inserted such ideas in their minds, and cheated them by that.

While nothing like this is true: Jews are like other servants of God: if they act righteously they will be in good condition, and if they act with evil and transgression, then God punishes them utterly

If you don't believe me, see the history: what history:
what history .. now the Wicked Zionists see themselves prosperous, and have been given victory over Muslims .. so they work to annihilate the Palestinian People and plunder their rights ..
while they don't know that all this is only temporary .. and everything will change in the near future .. when they face the terrible penalty by God Almighty.
http://quran-ayat.com/conflicts/engl...eir_Illusions_
quran-ayat.com/conflicts/english3.htm#Jews_Work_According_to_Their_Illusion s_

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The Zionist Illusion:
1- They see themselves in power at the present time, while Muslims are weak (so they think God loves them and hates Muslims so He has made them victorious on Muslims.)
2- They see the support by the most powerful state in the world, as their chief said.
3- They see the Zionist Trump confirm them and support them with unlimited support.
Accordingly, the Zionists of Tel Aviv and their allies think they have the upper hand, and even the traitors: the Arab rulers are secretly with them.

While the Zionists (and most of them are atheists, idolaters and Satanists) have disregarded God Almighty .. and out of their self conceit they even denied Him and even transgressed on the name of His Majesty.

But the believers, have the firm belief in God and His promise to help His servants against His enemies: the Wicked Zionists of Tel Aviv and their allies.

Victory comes only from God:
The believers among Muslims depend on God Almighty: if they depend on their multitude, they will fail .. if they depend on their weapon, they will fail .. if they depend on the East or the West, they will fail.
But if they depend solely on God Almighty, they will be victorious and will defeat their enemies the Satanists and Zionists and their allies.

Quran 9: 25-27, which means:
(25. God did help you in many [battle-]fields, and on the day [of the Battle] of Hunayn when your multitude was pleasing to you, but it availed you naught; the land – for all that it is wide –was strait for you, and you turned your backs in flight [away from the Prophet.]

26. Then God brought down His 'assuredness' on His apostle [Mohammed] and on the believers;
and brought down [from heaven] hosts [of angels to persuade the believers to fight and be steadfast] whom you did not see [O Muslims],
and He chastised the unbelievers [by your hands];
such [slaying, captivity and plundering that befell them] is the reward of unbelievers.


27. Then God, even after that [slaying and captivity that befell the disbelievers] may turn towards whom He will;
God is All-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
)

See more explanation in the link:
http://quran-ayat.com/pret/9.htm#a9_25
quran-ayat.com/pret/9.htm#a9_25
Last edited by Torch light; Aug 17th, 2018 at 04:13 PM..
 
Durry
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The Zionist Illusion:
1- They see themselves in power at the present time, while Muslims are weak (so they think God loves them and hates Muslims so He has made them victorious on Muslims.)

This is NOT an illusion.
The Muslims are not only weak, they are also stupid and useless.
God hates muslims that’s why he made every Muslim country a shithole.
 
EagleSmack
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Quote: Originally Posted by Durry View Post

The Zionist Illusion:
1- They see themselves in power at the present time, while Muslims are weak (so they think God loves them and hates Muslims so He has made them victorious on Muslims.)

This is NOT an illusion.
The Muslims are not only weak, they are also stupid and useless.
God hates muslims that’s why he made every Muslim country a shithole.


You are haughty as well.
 
White_Unifier
#24
I'm haughty sometimes too. What about you?
 
Durry
#25
If you get it up, you are haughty.
 
Torch light
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Quote: Originally Posted by Durry View Post

The Zionist Illusion:
1- They see themselves in power at the present time, while Muslims are weak (so they think God loves them and hates Muslims so He has made them victorious on Muslims.)

This is NOT an illusion.
The Muslims are not only weak, they are also stupid and useless.
God hates muslims that’s why he made every Muslim country a shithole.

This is your illusion and selfconceit, as I have explained.
So recall your history .. what history .. don't you have mind, don't you have insight? Stupid.
 
White_Unifier
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Quote: Originally Posted by Durry View Post

If you get it up, you are haughty.

If you get what up? Cocaine up your nose? I've never experienced that myself.
 
Durry
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Quote: Originally Posted by Torch light View Post

This is your illusion and selfconceit, as I have explained.
So recall your history .. what history .. don't you have mind, don't you have insight? Stupid.

No, you are the one with the illusion, why don’t you go live in the shithole that you came from, stop living off the hard work of others.?
 
Torch light
#29
Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

The disbeliever is usually well educated and has read many holy books, that is why he is a disbeliever. Most atheists know the bible better than most Christians do. Most atheists in Muslim countries have already had their heads chopped off.

The education and knowledge do not indicate the guidance.

Scholars among Jews, Christians, and even some Muslims .. they studied for decades .. but most of them are the scholars of error and misguidance, even some Muslim ulama or scholars are the scholars of misguidance and error: when they see their people erring and they keep silent and don't advise them.

Therefore, where has their studies for decades been? It has not brought them to the true guidance of observing God alone without associate or patron.

Quote: Originally Posted by Durry View Post

No, you are the one with the illusion, why don’t you go live in the shithole that you came from, stop living off the hard work of others.?

Shall I remind you with your dark history full of disgrace, humiliation, defeat and loss?
What awaits the Wicked Zionists of Tel Aviv and their allies is even more dark and ominous .. on account of their haughtiness and transgression.
http://quran-ayat.com/conflicts/engl..._of_Perishing_
quran-ayat.com/conflicts/english3.htm#A_Warning_to_Zionists_of_Perishing_
Last edited by Torch light; Aug 17th, 2018 at 05:14 PM..
 
Durry
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Shall I remind you with your dark history full of disgrace, humiliation, defeat and loss?

Yeah, remind me.

Also remind me of how many shithole countries Muslims built and how many people they kill by cutting off their heads