Minister's bulletproof vest in Jane-Finch "racist," NDP say


spaminator
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Minister's bulletproof vest in Jane-Finch "racist," NDP say
Antonella Artuso
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Published:
July 18, 2018
Updated:
July 18, 2018 7:19 PM EDT
Minister of Community Safety Michael Tibollo (Peter Power/The Canadian Press)
Ontario’s new Minister of Community Safety started his on-the-job training touring the Jane-Finch community wearing a bulletproof vest.
Michael Tibollo mentioned the visit during Question Period Wednesday while responding to a demand from NDP MPP Kevin Yarde that the province ban carding by police officers outright.
“Personally, I went out to Jane and Finch, put on a bulletproof vest and spent 7 o’clock to 1 o’clock in the morning visiting sites that had previously had bullet-ridden people killed in the middle of the night,” Tibollo said.
“The police need tools to work with.”
The NDP accused Tibollo of stigmatizing the neighbourhood, and said the Minister was not qualified to oversee the anti-racism secretariat.
“Conservative minister Michael Tibollo’s comment this morning about wearing a bulletproof vest at Jane and Finch is inexcusably racist,” NDP Leader Andrea Horwath tweeted.
Yarde said he was carded about seven years ago, pulled over by a white police officer who asked him what was in garbage bags in the back of his car.
“I think he pulled me over because I was a Black man driving in Mississauga late at night,” Yarde said, adding he hadn’t broken any traffic laws.
The former Ontario Liberal government took steps to severely curtail the use of carding, but critics of the practice say it continues.
Some Toronto police officers have blamed the lack of carding for the rise in gun crime, and the Doug Ford government has not ruled out bringing it back.
Tibollo said people living in Jane-Finch need his government’s help.
The Minister was joined by Ford, and he said the people in the Jane-Finch community seemed pleased to see them.
Tibollo said police gave him the bulletproof vest to wear when he visited a crack house and areas where people had been gunned down.
“The part that I found really difficult was to have an eight-year-old young girl come up to me and to Mr. Ford and say, ‘We’re really happy to see you here, because we live in a very difficult area and you’re trying to make this place safe.’” Tibollo said.
“That, to me, was overwhelming, because as an eight-year-old kid growing up in this city I never would have been concerned or worried about my safety.”
Liberal MPP Mitzie Hunter called Tibollo’s comments about wearing a bulletproof vest in the Jane-Finch community problematic.
“I think it’s completely unacceptable for anyone in leadership to stigmatize a community and to reinforce stereotypes that actually are not reflective of the community,” Hunter said. “Jane and Finch is a beautiful community, there are beautiful families that live there, and it’s their home.”
aartuso@postmedia.com
http://torontosun.com/news/crime/min...racist-ndp-say
 
Danbones
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Gawd, I lived in various apartments in the Jane stretch from Wilson to Shepard for 5 years back in the trouble days with ZERO trouble...this is typical minister is typically retarded.

YES, I SAID RETARDED.
 
justlooking
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Quote: Originally Posted by spaminator View Post

“I think it’s completely unacceptable for anyone in leadership to stigmatize a community and to reinforce stereotypes that actually are not reflective of the community,” Hunter said. “Jane and Finch is a beautiful community, there are beautiful families that live there, and it’s their home.”




HA !


HA HA !!


I lived Jane/Finch back in the late 80's, even back then it was carry a bat after dark, or trouble was coming.


Quote:

Jane and Finch is a beautiful community,

Bullcrappie... it's a shithole.
 
IdRatherBeSkiing
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Quote: Originally Posted by justlooking View Post

I lived Jane/Finch back in the late 80's, even back then it was carry a bat after dark, or trouble was coming.


Never bring a bat to a gun fight.
 
Danbones
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Don't do cracks...the bat will break if you hit something.

I wonder if he wears the vest to the drug store where they hand out all the opium pills that are out on the street.
Last edited by Danbones; Jul 19th, 2018 at 06:05 AM..
 
Walter
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The police wear vests and if you're riding with them you should wear one, too. The only thing racist in the NDP remark is/are the NDP.
Last edited by Walter; Jul 19th, 2018 at 07:40 AM..
 
Danbones
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Quote: Originally Posted by Danbones View Post

Gawd, I lived in various apartments in the Jane stretch from Wilson to Shepard for 5 years back in the trouble days with ZERO trouble...this is typical minister is typically retarded.

YES, I SAID RETARDED.

Yeah Walter, fact not brag - I am big enough, but NOT imposing - one just needs to have some common damned sense is all.
 
Curious Cdn
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Quote: Originally Posted by justlooking View Post

HA !


HA HA !!


I lived Jane/Finch back in the late 80's, even back then it was carry a bat after dark, or trouble was coming.


Bullcrappie... it's a shithole.

I was involved in supplying some fixturing for the little Yorkgate Mall that was built there around that time. I was just finished for the day (at dusk) and I popped into a convenience store there for something-or-other. The Oriental proprietor smiled at me, looked closely into my Caucasian face and said: "You not from around here, are you?" It was funny as hell the way he did it.
 
DaSleeper
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I was in that area only once in the evening a couple of years ago, but I was with a big Black dude, so I felt fairly safe.
Although a cop car driving by gave us a strange look.....probably thought he was the bald headed old guy's bodyguard


In a way, he was, but he's also a friend..
 
spaminator
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NDP demands PC minister apologize for 'racist' vest remarks
Antonella Artuso
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Published:
July 19, 2018
Updated:
July 19, 2018 10:21 PM EDT
NDP Leader Andrea Horwath is pictured at Queen's Park on July 11, 2018. (JACK BOLAND, Toronto Sun)
NDP Leader Andrea Horwath is demanding a Doug Ford cabinet minister apologize for the “racist” comment that he wore a bulletproof vest on a ride along with police in the Jane-Finch community.
“He used awful stereotypes to describe that community, and he made comments that were deeply offensive to many people,” Horwath said in the Ontario legislature Thursday. “You don’t build trust with racist slurs.”
Horwath later walked back her “racist slur” statement but still maintained that Community Safety Minister Michael Tibollo’s comment had been inappropriate.
“Will the minister apologize to racialized Ontarians for his racist remarks?” she said.
Earlier this week, Tibollo was asked whether his government would completely ban carding, or street checks, by police. Tibollo began his response by saying that he had gone with police on a late night ride in the Jane-Finch community wearing a bulletproof vest to places where there had been bullet-ridden bodies.
Tibollo stopped short of apologizing Thursday, but he explained that he is new to politics and was making an effort to understand real people’s concerns, including those of victims living in that community.
He accused the NDP of being more interested in public opinion than public safety.
“If I had to do it over again, obviously, I’ve learned that the way you say things should be perhaps more careful, because I honestly didn’t think that I was being offensive in what I was saying,” he said.
The minister added he chose the police division because of its rate of homicides but intends to go to many other communities in Toronto and across Ontario.
A Toronto police spokesman said officers do a safety evaluation when bringing a civilian along, and usually err on the side of caution when determining whether a bulletproof vest should be offered.
Tibollo said the police made it a condition of his ride along.
“I put it on because I wouldn’t be able to go if I didn’t have it on. I put it on, I signed the waiver, and we went out,” Tibollo said. “Now, if it had been earlier in the evening, perhaps it would have been a different situation, but I was out until past 1 a.m., and I specifically asked to go into crack houses.”
Meanwhile, Toronto Councillor Giorgio Mammoliti said he will be riding with police Friday ito various hotspots, including in the Jane and Finch area.
“I will be wearing a bulletproof vest, and I dare the usual social activists and the politicians that support them to call me a racist,” Mammoliti said in a statement.
aartuso@postmedia.com
http://torontosun.com/news/provincia...t-vest-remarks
 
Johnnny
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Maybe he didn't want to be caught in between and killed in same rap beef.
 
Hoid
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Ford delivering the laughs as predicted.
 
Danbones
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Bullet proof vests in toronto are like putting forum people on ignore.

only the guilty need wear them.
 
Retired_Can_Soldier
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Jane + Finch = Gang Violence
It's not racist, it's a matter of historical record.
 
taxslave
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Quote: Originally Posted by spaminator View Post

NDP demands PC minister apologize for 'racist' vest remarks
Antonella Artuso
More from Antonella Artuso
Published:
July 19, 2018
Updated:
July 19, 2018 10:21 PM EDT
NDP Leader Andrea Horwath is pictured at Queen's Park on July 11, 2018. (JACK BOLAND, Toronto Sun)
NDP Leader Andrea Horwath is demanding a Doug Ford cabinet minister apologize for the “racist” comment that he wore a bulletproof vest on a ride along with police in the Jane-Finch community.
“He used awful stereotypes to describe that community, and he made comments that were deeply offensive to many people,” Horwath said in the Ontario legislature Thursday. “You don’t build trust with racist slurs.”
Horwath later walked back her “racist slur” statement but still maintained that Community Safety Minister Michael Tibollo’s comment had been inappropriate.
“Will the minister apologize to racialized Ontarians for his racist remarks?” she said.
Earlier this week, Tibollo was asked whether his government would completely ban carding, or street checks, by police. Tibollo began his response by saying that he had gone with police on a late night ride in the Jane-Finch community wearing a bulletproof vest to places where there had been bullet-ridden bodies.
Tibollo stopped short of apologizing Thursday, but he explained that he is new to politics and was making an effort to understand real people’s concerns, including those of victims living in that community.
He accused the NDP of being more interested in public opinion than public safety.
“If I had to do it over again, obviously, I’ve learned that the way you say things should be perhaps more careful, because I honestly didn’t think that I was being offensive in what I was saying,” he said.
The minister added he chose the police division because of its rate of homicides but intends to go to many other communities in Toronto and across Ontario.
A Toronto police spokesman said officers do a safety evaluation when bringing a civilian along, and usually err on the side of caution when determining whether a bulletproof vest should be offered.
Tibollo said the police made it a condition of his ride along.
“I put it on because I wouldn’t be able to go if I didn’t have it on. I put it on, I signed the waiver, and we went out,” Tibollo said. “Now, if it had been earlier in the evening, perhaps it would have been a different situation, but I was out until past 1 a.m., and I specifically asked to go into crack houses.”
Meanwhile, Toronto Councillor Giorgio Mammoliti said he will be riding with police Friday ito various hotspots, including in the Jane and Finch area.
“I will be wearing a bulletproof vest, and I dare the usual social activists and the politicians that support them to call me a racist,” Mammoliti said in a statement.
aartuso@postmedia.com
http://torontosun.com/news/provincia...t-vest-remarks

As usual the Dippers are making fools of themselves by being more concerned about criminals than taxpayers.
 
spaminator
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Bulletproof vest-wearing politician doing his job, says Mammoliti
Antonella Artuso
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Published:
July 22, 2018
Updated:
July 22, 2018 5:41 PM EDT
Toronto city Coun. Giorgio Mammoliti during his police ride-along Friday evening with Sgt. Paul Dominey, left, and a member of the community. (Giorgio Mammoliti photo)
Politicians criticizing a cabinet minister who wore a bulletproof vest on a night-time police ride-along in the Jane-Finch community should climb down off their downtown bikes and try it sometime, Toronto Councillor Giorgio Mammoliti says.
When he did his own ride-along in the same area Friday night, wearing a vest provided by police, Mammoliti said he saw Toronto Community Housing units hijacked by criminals, addicts lying together on a single mattress on the floor, doors hanging off hinges and garbage everywhere.
“The gangbangers and dope dealers are taking over the neighbourhood to a degree where they’re kicking people out with leases, they’re kicking them out of their own units, and selling the dope in their units,” he said. “That’s a huge problem right now in TCHC.
“The ratepayers that I know are all saying we want somebody to take a stand and get rid of this problem once and for all.”
NDP Leader Andrea Horwath and many others criticized Community Safety Minister Michael Tibollo last week for his response to a question about police carding.
Tibollo said he’d been on a police ride-along in Jane-Finch wearing a bulletproof vest visiting places where there had been bullet-ridden bodies.
Horwath called it a “racist” statement, and she and other political leaders accused him of unfairly stigmatizing the community.
Mayor John Tory said he had been on about a dozen police ride-alongs through the years and never asked or been told to wear a bulletproof vest.
Tibollo, who also oversees the provincial anti-racism directorate, said he was given the vest to wear by police after asking to visit crack houses and other dangerous areas at night.
And while he acknowledged he should have been more careful with his words, Tibollo said he did not believe them to be offensive.
He later tweeted out a photo of himself wearing a bullet-proof vest in a ride-along with Ottawa Police.
Tibollo was doing his job, wearing the vest he was required to by police policy when visiting crime hotspots, Mammoliti said.
But people living in the community are now sensitive about the issue, he said.
NDP Leader Andrea Horwath is pictured at Queen’s Park on July 11, 2018. (JACK BOLAND, Toronto Sun)
The councillor went to an area where a vigil was held for a man shot dead recently just north of the Jane-Finch intersection, and several people began yelling at him when they saw his vest.
“But once I explained to them that it was the policy, for me to ride along with the police department I’d have to put the vest on, I couldn’t show up without it, they backed down a little bit,” he said. “Then they offered me a beer and I said, ‘Yeah, I’ll take it.’ and I actually had a beer with them and before we left they invited me for dinner.”
Mammoliti said he took off his vest while drinking the beer.
The councillor said he’s convinced that what’s needed to improve the lives of Jane-Finch residents is some “tough love” — specifically, changes in provincial legislation giving TCHC the authority to evict the “1%” of tenants who cause trouble with illegal guns or drugs.
Meanwhile, repairing trashed and bedbug-infested TCHC units makes no sense if the same tenants move back in because they’ll just damage them again, he said.
Bedbug bites on a Toronto Housing resident’s hands, taken during taken during Toronto city Coun. Giorgio Mammoliti’s police ride-along. (Giorgio Mammoliti photo)
One 79-year-old tenant was given money and sex to allow his TCHC unit to be used for drug dealing and then once established, the criminals pushed him out of his own place, Mammoliti said.
“They’ve taken over his unit about three times,” he said.
Government resources should go into mentorship and sports programs for young children growing up in social housing, not into twenty-somethings who’ve “decided to kill already,” he said.
Drug paraphernalia found during Toronto city Coun. Giorgio Mammoliti’s police ride-along. (Giorgio Mammoliti photo)
Ultimately, the city needs to do to Jane-Finch what it did at Regent Park – tear down the social housing complexes and create mixed-income neighbourhoods, he said.
“We have made drastic errors over the years by segregating those poor people into one area,” said Mammoliti, who grew up and worked in the Jane-Finch community. “Many of those children have never known any other life outside of the Driftwood area and the larger pockets in those social housing developments… Their heroes who have a lot of money seem to be gang bangers and dope dealers.”
aartuso@postmedia.com
http://torontosun.com/news/provincia...says-mammoliti
 
Jinentonix
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I like it when Whoresbath opens her yap. In just continues to confirm how completely out to f*cking lunch the ALT-left really are.