The Mahdi will be aided by 5000 angels


Torch light
#1
The Mahdi will be aided by 5000 angels to help him in his wars against idolaters, disbeliever and Zionists.

The angels attended all wars of Muslims (if they are monotheists devoting themselves to God alone) against disbelievers, while they were not aware .. the angels being invisible spiritual beings helping the believers by inspiring them to be firm and steadfast, and by stirring terror in the hearts of disbelievers and blasphemers.

Quran 3: 125, which means:
(Yes indeed, if you persevere, and ward off, and the [idolaters] immediately come upon you; your Lord will aid you with five thousand angels, making brands [on the faces of the disbelievers.])

More explanation is in the link:
http://quran-ayat.com/pret/3.htm#a3_125
quran-ayat.com/pret/3.htm#a3_125
 
White_Unifier
#2
Quote: Originally Posted by Torch light View Post

The Mahdi will be aided by 5000 angels to help him in his wars against idolaters, disbeliever and Zionists.

The angels attended all wars of Muslims (if they are monotheists devoting themselves to God alone) against disbelievers, while they were not aware .. the angels being invisible spiritual beings helping the believers by inspiring them to be firm and steadfast, and by stirring terror in the hearts of disbelievers and blasphemers.

Quran 3: 125, which means:
(Yes indeed, if you persevere, and ward off, and the [idolaters] immediately come upon you; your Lord will aid you with five thousand angels, making brands [on the faces of the disbelievers.])

More explanation is in the link:
http://quran-ayat.com/pret/3.htm#a3_125
quran-ayat.com/pret/3.htm#a3_125

I thought the Mahdi returned in 1844 AD or the Year '60 (1260 AH):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%C3%A1b
 
Curious Cdn
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The Mahdi will be aided by 5000 angels

So, the Mahdi is going to appear in Port Dover?

http://youtu.be/_OMsMWXH8KE
 
Torch light
#4
Quote: Originally Posted by White_Unifier View Post

I thought the Mahdi returned in 1844 AD or the Year '60 (1260 AH):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%C3%A1b

This is the doctrine of the Ba-bis and Baha'i which is one of the enthusiastic idolatrous beliefs: a falsehood.

If you want to follow the truth: it is the One-ness of God and the exclusive devotion to God alone, and to abandon the enthusiasm about the Bab, the Baha or anyone else .. and to follow the Quran.
 
Jinentonix
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#5
Quote: Originally Posted by Torch light View Post

The Mahdi will be aided by 5000 angels to help him in his wars against idolaters, disbeliever and Zionists.

The angels attended all wars of Muslims (if they are monotheists devoting themselves to God alone) against disbelievers, while they were not aware .. the angels being invisible spiritual beings helping the believers by inspiring them to be firm and steadfast, and by stirring terror in the hearts of disbelievers and blasphemers.

Quran 3: 125, which means:
(Yes indeed, if you persevere, and ward off, and the [idolaters] immediately come upon you; your Lord will aid you with five thousand angels, making brands [on the faces of the disbelievers.])

More explanation is in the link:
http://quran-ayat.com/pret/3.htm#a3_125
quran-ayat.com/pret/3.htm#a3_125

Your garbage is even more ridiculous than the bible.
 
Torch light
#6
Quote: Originally Posted by White_Unifier View Post

I thought the Mahdi returned in 1844 AD or the Year '60 (1260 AH):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%C3%A1b

This is in complement to my post #4

To prove that this sect follows the falsehood, see that they glorify the shrines or tombs of their religious leaders, which is the idolatry... The Mahdi will demolish all shrines or constructed tombs .. i.e. every dome on a tomb will be demolished.

Quote: Originally Posted by Jinentonix View Post

Your garbage is even more ridiculous than the bible.

Neither the Quran nor the Bible is ridiculous; the ridiculous are the atheists and idolaters.
When such atheists will die, they will regret and then their regret will not avail them anything.

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The omen for disbelievers :

By the way, yesterday I read the interpretation of these 2 amazing ayat of the Quran 17: 13-14

(13. We have imposed, on every [disbelieving] man, his 'hard luck' on his neck.
And on the Day of Judgment We shall show to him a book which he will find wide open.


The meaning: Every evil-doing man has his sins encompassing him as does the collar or neckband encompasses the neck of the woman, so he will censure his conscience and blame himself about the prosperity of the Next Life which he will miss and the chastisement which will afflict him because of his sins.

14. [And it will be said to him:] "Read your [own] book [in which your deeds are written]; [for] this Day [of Doom], your soul will be quite enough to account against you.")

The meaning: We do not judge you [because there will be no judgment for atheists, idolaters and disbeliever]; it is enough that you judge yourself and admit your guilt and crimes, so as to know that God has not wronged you by admitting you into the Fire, but it is you who wronged yourself.

More explanation is in the link:
http://quran-ayat.com/pret/17.htm#a17_13
quran-ayat.com/pret/17.htm#a17_13
 
Jinentonix
#7
Quote: Originally Posted by Torch light View Post

Neither the Quran nor the Bible is ridiculous; the ridiculous are the atheists and idolaters.
When such atheists will die, they will regret and then their regret will not avail them anything.

Been there, done that, got the damn T-shirt. Look, the bible and the quran supposedly are about the same god. Yet both are widely different. The bible claims Jesus is the son of god. Islam claims that Jesus is a mere prophet. The most important one after Mohammed but still just a prophet nonetheless. Why would would god/allah or his messenger(s) tell you
guys two different things?
Then we need to ask, if your holy texts are the unerring, perfect word of your god, then why are there so many sects that interpret those texts differently? Seems to me that the perfect, unerring word of god/allah wouldn't be so widely misinterpreted within a single religion, never mind two of them.
 
Torch light
#8
Evidently, you speak about the Gospel and the Quran, but disregard the Torah of Moses.

Anyhow, know then that the previous heavenly books included in the Bible have been altered by the passing of time and the original teachings have been distorted.

So people now should correct their faith according to the Quran, which no alteration or changing can touch in the past or at the present time; it is known by heart like you know a poem; in this respect it is like the unchangeable Ten Commandments.

How the priest Ezra altered the original Torah (included in the Old Testament)
http://quran-ayat.com/conflicts/inde...of_Priest_Ezra
quran-ayat.com/conflicts/index.htm#The_trick_of_Priest_Ezra

Some books were lost from the Bible
The Conflict between the Torah and the Quran
quran-ayat.com/conflicts/index.htm#lost_book_of_bible
Last edited by Torch light; Jun 14th, 2018 at 06:51 AM..
 
Torch light
#9
Many Jews will follow the Mahdi :
I find some texts that many Jews will convert and follow the Mahdi when he will come.
Texts from Arabic narrative sources (traditional hadiths), and sources from the Bible:

The following is written in the Book of Isaiah, chapter 2: 2-4

2- And in the last days the mountain of the house of the Lord shall be prepared on the top of the mountains, and it shall be exalted above the hills: and all nations shall flow unto it.

3- And many people shall go, and say: Come, and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord and the house of the God of Jacob: and he shall teach us his ways, and we will walk in his paths.

4- And he shall judge the Gentiles and rebuke many people: and they shall turn their swords into ploughshares their spears into sickles. Nation shall not lift up sword against nation; neither shall they be exercised any more to war.”


See the explanation of these Torah ayat in the link:
http://quran-ayat.com/conflicts/engl...The_Last_Days_
quran-ayat.com/conflicts/english2.htm#In_The_Last_Days_
 
Gilgamesh
#10
Quote: Originally Posted by Torch light View Post

The Mahdi will be aided by 5000 angels to help him in his wars against idolaters, disbeliever and Zionists.

The angels attended all wars of Muslims (if they are monotheists devoting themselves to God alone) against disbelievers, while they were not aware .. the angels being invisible spiritual beings helping the believers by inspiring them to be firm and steadfast, and by stirring terror in the hearts of disbelievers and blasphemers.

Quran 3: 125, which means:
(Yes indeed, if you persevere, and ward off, and the [idolaters] immediately come upon you; your Lord will aid you with five thousand angels, making brands [on the faces of the disbelievers.])

More explanation is in the link:
http://quran-ayat.com/pret/3.htm#a3_125
quran-ayat.com/pret/3.htm#a3_125

No he wont. The angels (a corruption of the word used for Nordic slaves) joined the Teamsters and are on strike.

Get a new schtick booby. This one is stupid & irrational.
 
Walter
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#11
Squirrel.
 
pgs
#12
How come the Mahdi got stuffed last time he tried it at Khartoum?
 
Curious Cdn
#13
Quote: Originally Posted by pgs View Post

How come the Mahdi got stuffed last time he tried it at Khartoum?

He was did in by 5000 Anglos.
 
pgs
#14
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

He was did in by 5000 Anglos.

Lol.
 
MHz
#15
Notice the slight difference. Angels only gather, There were 10,000 when the fallen angels were put into the Pit during the flood. I tend to use that number or simply 'enough'. This is a bit longer than I intended but you should only have to read it once.

Isa:63:3:
I have trodden the winepress alone;
and of the people there was none with me:
for I will tread them in mine anger,
and trample them in my fury;
and their blood shall be sprinkled upon my garments,
and I will stain all my raiment.

Re:9:15-17:
And the four angels were loosed,
which were prepared for an hour,
and a day,
and a month,
and a year,
for to slay the third part of men.
And the number of the army of the horsemen were two hundred thousand thousand:
and I heard the number of them.
And thus I saw the horses in the vision,
and them that sat on them,
having breastplates of fire,
and of jacinth,
and brimstone:
and the heads of the horses were as the heads of lions;
and out of their mouths issued fire and smoke and brimstone.

Re:14:20:
And the winepress was trodden without the city,
and blood came out of the winepress,
even unto the horse bridles,
by the space of a thousand and six hundred furlongs.

Eze:39:11-16:
And it shall come to pass in that day,
that I will give unto Gog a place there of graves in Israel,
the valley of the passengers on the east of the sea:
and it shall stop the noses of the passengers:
and there shall they bury Gog and all his multitude:
and they shall call it The valley of Hamon-gog.
And seven months shall the house of Israel be burying of them,
that they may cleanse the land.
Yea,
all the people of the land shall bury them;
and it shall be to them a renown the day that I shall be glorified,
saith the Lord GOD.
And they shall sever out men of continual employment,
passing through the land to bury with the passengers those that remain upon the face of the earth,
to cleanse it:
after the end of seven months shall they search.
And the passengers that pass through the land,
when any seeth a man's bone,
then shall he set up a sign by it,
till the buriers have buried it in the valley of Hamon-gog.
And also the name of the city shall be Hamonah.
Thus shall they cleanse the land.

Re:19:11-16:
And I saw heaven opened,
and behold a white horse;
and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True,
and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
His eyes were as a flame of fire,
and on his head were many crowns;
and he had a name written,
that no man knew,
but he himself.
And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood:
and his name is called The Word of God.
And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses,
clothed in fine linen,
white and clean.
And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword,
that with it he should smite the nations:
and he shall rule them with a rod of iron:
and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written,
KING OF KINGS,
AND LORD OF LORDS.

M't:13:41-43:
The Son of man shall send forth his angels,
and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend,
and them which do iniquity;
And shall cast them into a furnace of fire:
there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father.
Who hath ears to hear,
let him hear.

Lu:17:32-37:
Remember Lot's wife.
Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it;
and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it.
I tell you,
in that night there shall be two men in one bed;
the one shall be taken,
and the other shall be left.
Two women shall be grinding together;
the one shall be taken,
and the other left.
Two men shall be in the field;
the one shall be taken,
and the other left.
And they answered and said unto him,
Where,
Lord?
And he said unto them,
Wheresoever the body is,
thither will the eagles be gathered together.

M't:24:28:
For wheresoever the carcase is,
there will the eagles be gathered together.

Joe:2:1-11:
Blow ye the trumpet in Zion,
and sound an alarm in my holy mountain:
let all the inhabitants of the land tremble:
for the day of the LORD cometh,
for it is nigh at hand;
A day of darkness and of gloominess,
a day of clouds and of thick darkness,
as the morning spread upon the mountains:
a great people and a strong;
there hath not been ever the like,
neither shall be any more after it,
even to the years of many generations.
A fire devoureth before them;
and behind them a flame burneth:
the land is as the garden of Eden before them,
and behind them a desolate wilderness;
yea,
and nothing shall escape them.
The appearance of them is as the appearance of horses;
and as horsemen,
so shall they run.
Like the noise of chariots on the tops of mountains shall they leap,
like the noise of a flame of fire that devoureth the stubble,
as a strong people set in battle array.
Before their face the people shall be much pained:
all faces shall gather blackness.
They shall run like mighty men;
they shall climb the wall like men of war;
and they shall march every one on his ways,
and they shall not break their ranks:
Neither shall one thrust another;
they shall walk every one in his path:
and when they fall upon the sword,
they shall not be wounded.
They shall run to and fro in the city;
they shall run upon the wall,
they shall climb up upon the houses;
they shall enter in at the windows like a thief.
The earth shall quake before them;
the heavens shall tremble:
the sun and the moon shall be dark,
and the stars shall withdraw their shining:
And the LORD shall utter his voice before his army:
for his camp is very great:
for he is strong that executeth his word:
for the day of the LORD is great and very terrible;
and who can abide it?

Zec:13:8:
And it shall come to pass,
that in all the land,
saith the LORD,
two parts therein shall be cut off and die;
but the third shall be left therein.
Zec:13:9:
And I will bring the third part through the fire,
and will refine them as silver is refined,
and will try them as gold is tried:
they shall call on my name,
and I will hear them: I
will say,
It is my people:
and they shall say,
The LORD is my God.
Last edited by MHz; Aug 31st, 2018 at 02:52 AM..
 
Walter
#16
Got ya beat by 5,000. I love bluegrass, so here’s a pretty good bluegrass version.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=joae-7A7Mgs
 
Torch light
#17
Quote: Originally Posted by MHz View Post

Angels only gather, There were 10,000 when the fallen angels were put into the Pit during the flood.

The large number of angels :

There is a large number of angels, innumerable.
They are the inhabitants of Heaven or Paradise or the Kingdom of heaven.
Originally, they were the humans who had inhabited the broken planets of the past solar systems in the past Doomsdays ..
Seven doomsdays had passed, and the coming one will be the eighth.

Therefore, if you consider that for every human being (adult and sane), there is at least one angel to record his deeds .. the large number of angels will be obvious.

These angels who inhabit the paradise or the kingdom of heaven .. they are the host of God .. they comply to His commands and carry out their duties submissively.

http://www.quran-ayat.com/man/1.htm#Angels_
quran-ayat.com/man/1.htm#Angels_
 
MHz
#18
Jude:1:14-16:
And Enoch also,
the seventh from Adam,
prophesied of these,
saying,
Behold,
the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,
To execute judgment upon all,
and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed,
and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.

De:33:2:
And he said,
The LORD came from Sinai,
and rose up from Seir unto them;
he shined forth from mount Paran,
and he came with ten thousands of saints:
from his right hand went a fiery law for them.
These are murmurers,
complainers,
walking after their own lusts;
and their mouth speaketh great swelling words,
having men's persons in admiration because of advantage.

The verse below is the 2/3 that make it into their new heaven

Heb:12:18=25:
For ye are not come unto the mount that might be touched,
and that burned with fire,
nor unto blackness,
and darkness,
and tempest,
And the sound of a trumpet,
and the voice of words;
which voice they that heard intreated that the word should not be spoken to them any more:
(For they could not endure that which was commanded,
And if so much as a beast touch the mountain,
it shall be stoned,
or thrust through with a dart:
And so terrible was the sight,
that Moses said,
I exceedingly fear and quake
But ye are come unto mount Sion,
and unto the city of the living God,
the heavenly Jerusalem,
and to an innumerable company of angels,
To the general assembly and church of the firstborn,
which are written in heaven,
and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,
And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant,
and to the blood of sprinkling,
that speaketh better things than that of Abel.
See that ye refuse not him that speaketh.
For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth,
much more shall not we escape,
if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven:

2Co:12:2:
I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago,
(whether in the body,
I cannot tell;
or whether out of the body,
I cannot tell:
God knoweth
such an one caught up to the third heaven.

That means this earth will be a ball of glass at the end of Re:22 and the process of life will follow the pattern set in Ge:2 but rather than the Garden it will be the planets where Angels have already built cities that mankind will inherit as they move to inhabit all of it.


This should have been the last verse in my last post. It confirms that Christ alone kills people. He also kills the birds and beasts after the feast and before Satan is released as they are not sinless because they do not know about good and evil so rather than them being sent to the lake they are resurrected in the new earth once pastures are available. This earth is a seed-bank for how life begins in the new earth.

Isa:66:22:
For as the new heavens and the new earth,
which I will make,
shall remain before me,
saith the LORD,
so shall your seed and your name remain.

Isa:60:22:
A little one shall become a thousand,
and a small one a strong nation:
I the LORD will hasten it in his time.

Da:12:3:
And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament;
and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.

Re:19:21:
And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse,
which sword proceeded out of his mouth:
and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.

Ho:4:3:
Therefore shall the land mourn,
and every one that dwelleth therein shall languish,
with the beasts of the field,
and with the fowls of heaven;
yea,
the fishes of the sea also shall be taken away.
Last edited by MHz; Aug 31st, 2018 at 04:59 PM..
 
Torch light
#19
The might of the angels is described in the Psalms and in the Quran.

http://quran-ayat.com/pret/74.htm#a74_31
quran-ayat.com/pret/74.htm#a74_31

Quote: Originally Posted by MHz View Post

That means this earth will be a ball of glass at the end of Re:22 and the process of life will follow the pattern set in Ge:2 but rather than the Garden it will be the planets where Angels have already built cities that mankind will inherit as they move to inhabit all of it.

Paradise (or Heaven or the Kingdom of heaven) is ethereal and spiritual not material.. angels and human souls are ethereal and spiritual not material.
Paradise is the issue of the material planets .. after the planets break up, their ethereal image will issue to become the eighth ethereal layer or eighth heavenly layer.

http://www.quran-ayat.com/man/2.htm#...r_the_Garden)_
quran-ayat.com/man/2.htm#Paradise_(or_the_Garden)_
 
MHz
#20
4 fallen angels manifest into 200M horsemen. The math points to each angel being equal to an engine that runs on nothing and produces 50M horsepower as we measure it. The Sphinx was a 'sand-castle' at the beach, a one day project.