You are the sons of the murderer


Torch light
#1
Cain killed his brother Abel, so Abel perished, while Cain's seed continued as the present people: Children of Adam.

The parable of the two sons of Adam:
Cain envied his brother Abel because ِAbel's fiancée was more beautiful than the fiancée of Cain; so the consequence was that Cain turned to be a loser in his life of the World, and in addition he lost the reward of the Next Life, because of the envy which led him to kill his brother; although his brother did not do him any offense.

While his brother Abel gained the good reputation in the life of the World and the prosperity in the Next Life, on account of his piety and God-fearing.

Quran 5: 27, which means:
([Mohammed,] recite to the [Jews] the story of the two sons of Adam with [expounding] the truth; how they offered [each] an offering; and it was accepted of one of them, and not accepted of the other.

Said [Cain to his brother Abel]: "I will surely kill you."

Said [Abel]: "God does accept only from those who ward off [His disobedience.]
)

http://quran-ayat.com/pret/5.htm#a5_27
quran-ayat.com/pret/5.htm#a5_27

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The implication of this parable in the Quran:

Jews envied Prophet Mohammed, because he became the prophet out of the Arab, not out of the Jews .. and the revelation was curtailed from them, and God stopped to reveal to them or make any prophet out of them.

This envy led the Jews at the time of Prophet Mohammed to reject him and to become his enemy and adversary: for why should the revelation not come to them, but it came to the Arab !! .. and the revelation should be confined to them alone exclusively.

So this was like the envy of Satan to Adam, and like the envy of Cain to his brother Abel.
 
captain morgan
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Alleged Murderer... Nothing was ever proven in Court
 
Torch light
#3
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morgan View Post

Alleged Murderer... Nothing was ever proven in Court

The murderer admitted his crime.
 
captain morgan
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#4
He retracted it later
 
Torch light
#5
Why the envy is a big sin:
Some people envy others because these have more wealth, a better house, more children, a beautiful wife, a high position , etc.
This is a bad sin: because it is like objection to God: God gives some favor to some men, and the others don't like it.. so as if they object to God's judgment.
 
captain morgan
#6
This is bad news for you... it apparent that you are highly envious of Zionists
 
Torch light
#7
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morgan View Post

He retracted it later

He remorsed, after he committed it.

Quran 5: 30-31, which means:
(30. Then his soul prompted him to kill his brother, so he killed him, and became one of losers.

31. Then God sent forth a crow: scratching into the ground [and burying a dead crow with earth]; to show him how to conceal the shame of his brother.

"Alas to me!" Said he, "Am I too helpless to become like this crow and conceal the shame of my brother [with earth]?"

So he became one of the remorseful [about killing him.]
)

http://quran-ayat.com/pret/5.htm#a5_30
quran-ayat.com/pret/5.htm#a5_30

Quote: Originally Posted by captain morgan View Post

This is bad news for you... it apparent that you are highly envious of Zionists

It is so difficult to discuss with you any matter, on account of your haughtiness and you deliberately evade the truth.
What I say about Zionists is not the envy .. it means to return the rights to their true owner: the Palestinian people, and to punish the transgressing Zionists.

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So the implication is:
"Mohammed, remind the Jews with this incident so that they may take the lesson and abandon the envy, and believe in that which God has revealed to you, and they should not be like Cain, and lose in their life of the World and in their Next Life, as did Cain lose."

http://quran-ayat.com/pret/5.htm#a5_27
quran-ayat.com/pret/5.htm#a5_27

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About the envy of Jews to Prophet Mohammed, see this Quran 57: 29, which means:
([We have shifted the revelation from Jews giving it to you: the Arab; because of their disbelief, stubbornness and association];

so that [Jews:] the people of the Book may know not [anything of the revelation, from now on,]

[and they should know] that they have no control over anything of God's bounty [so as to prevent the revelation from reaching the Arab],

and that the bounty [of sending the revelation down] is [entirely] by the hand of God; He gives it to whomsoever [of His servants] He will;

and God is of abounding bounty [to His prophets and messengers, by sending the revelation onto them.]
)

http://quran-ayat.com/pret/57.htm#a57_29
quran-ayat.com/pret/57.htm#a57_29

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ِAnd this is also about their envying Prophet Mohammed:

Quran 2: 109, which means:
(Many of [Jews:] the people of the Scripture, out of the jealousy [and envy] of their own [people a : envying Mohammed], wish they can turn you [O Muslims] back as unbelievers,
after you have believed [in Mohammed],
and after the truth [about his truthfulness] has become evident to them
b.

[Then God – be glorified – started to address the Prophet and the Muslims:]
But forgive [their offensive words] and pardon [them, as long as they do not harm or fight you]
till God brings His "Am'r" [: the Mahdi
c or the Comforter d .]

Surely, God is Most Able over anything. e)
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109 a And the followers of their religion.
That was when Hayiy son of Akhtab together with a group of Jews, went to Prophet Mohammed – salam be to him – and discoursed with him, then when they went out, they asked Hayiy: What do you say about Mohammed: is he a prophet?
He said: "Certainly, it is he; it is he."
They said: "Will you believe in him, while he is one of the Arab, not one of us?"
He said: "I shall be his enemy till death."

109 b That is the saying of Hayiy son of Akhtab: "Certainly, it is he; it is he"; because he recognized him with his name, description and that he is the promised prophet, then he opposed him.

109 c i.e till the am'r of God will come, and he will then fight them if he wants to do that; the Am'r of God is the Mahdi.

109 d See the Gospel of John 14: 16; 14: 26; 15: 26; 16: 7

109 e i.e. God can guide them to the Islam, as is He All-Able to terminate them.

http://quran-ayat.com/pret/2.htm#a2_109
quran-ayat.com/pret/2.htm#a2_109

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[Then God – be glorified – explained about the stinginess of Jews and their envying the messenger of God:]
Quran 4: 54, which means:
(53. Or have they [Jews] a portion of the kingdom? Then they would not give to people [: the Arab] even a jot.

54. Or do they envy the people [: the Arab] for [the bounties] that God has given them out of His favor?
But We have already given the family of Abraham the Book and wisdom, and given to them a great kingdom.
)

More explanation is in the link:
http://quran-ayat.com/pret/4.htm#a4_54
quran-ayat.com/pret/4.htm#a4_54

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The story of Cain and Abel in the interpretation of the Quran:

The sons of Adam married the girls of the yellow race, i.e. the Chineese; because the yellow race existed before Adam; refer to the book The Universe and the Quran, by Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly, under the title: Life is transmissible.
http://www.quran-ayat.com/universe/n..._Transmissible
quran-ayat.com/universe/new_page_2.htm#Life_Is_Transmissible

Cain envied his brother Abel because his fiancée was more beautiful than the fiancée of Cain.

Adam said to them: Offer a sacrifice to God, then the sacrifice of anyone of you is accepted, he will marry the beautiful girl.

The sign for accepting the sacrifice was that a fire would come down of heaven to consume his sacrifice; Abel was a keeper of sheep, and he offered the best ram among his sheep; but Cain was a tiller of the ground, so he offered some wheat out of his harvest.

Then a fire came out of heaven to burn the ram of Abel, but no fire came on the wheat of Cain, therefore, the envy of Cain to his brother Abel increased so he killed him.

http://quran-ayat.com/pret/5.htm#a5_27
quran-ayat.com/pret/5.htm#a5_27
Last edited by Torch light; May 29th, 2018 at 05:47 PM..
 
Johnnny
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#8
The son of a murderer?????

Wow did you just assume my gender?
 
Curious Cdn
#9
Jews envied Prophet Mohammed, because he became the prophet out of the Arab, not out of the Jews .. I have seen no evidence ... zip, zero, nada .... that the Jews envy Mohammed, the Arabs or Islam in general (nor does anyone else, for that matter).
 
JLM
#10
Quote: Originally Posted by Torch light View Post

Cain killed his brother Abel, so Abel perished, while Cain's seed continued as the present people: Children of Adam.

The parable of the two sons of Adam:
Cain envied his brother Abel because ِAbel's fiancée was more beautiful than the fiancée of Cain; so the consequence was that Cain turned to be a loser in his life of the World, and in addition he lost the reward of the Next Life, because of the envy which led him to kill his brother; although his brother did not do him any offense.

While his brother Abel gained the good reputation in the life of the World and the prosperity in the Next Life, on account of his piety and God-fearing.

Quran 5: 27, which means:
([Mohammed,] recite to the [Jews] the story of the two sons of Adam with [expounding] the truth; how they offered [each] an offering; and it was accepted of one of them, and not accepted of the other.

Said [Cain to his brother Abel]: "I will surely kill you."

Said [Abel]: "God does accept only from those who ward off [His disobedience.]
)

http://quran-ayat.com/pret/5.htm#a5_27
quran-ayat.com/pret/5.htm#a5_27

================================================== =======

The implication of this parable in the Quran:

Jews envied Prophet Mohammed, because he became the prophet out of the Arab, not out of the Jews .. and the revelation was curtailed from them, and God stopped to reveal to them or make any prophet out of them.

This envy led the Jews at the time of Prophet Mohammed to reject him and to become his enemy and adversary: for why should the revelation not come to them, but it came to the Arab !! .. and the revelation should be confined to them alone exclusively.

So this was like the envy of Satan to Adam, and like the envy of Cain to his brother Abel.

So who were the parents of Cain and Abel's fiancees?
 
Torch light
#11
They were the Chineese, who had been created before Adam; Adam was the father of the last human race: the Caucasian or the White Race.

http://www.quran-ayat.com/universe/n...ur_human_races
quran-ayat.com/universe/new_page_2.htm#The_four_human_races
 
Curious Cdn
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#12
I've been told that "You are the son of a bitch" before.

Does that count?
 

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