B.C. judge rules father guilty of “family violence” for calling trans son “she”


Twin_Moose
+2
#571
Peer, social pressure, and manipulation is more to blame than anything IMO
 
White_Unifier
+1
#572
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

What about Brownies? Can a 5 yo Trans boy join Brownies?

Are you kidding me?! he'd probably eat them all before he had a chance to sell even one.
 
petros
+4
#573
Quote: Originally Posted by Serryah View Post

There is no GRS on children, fact one.
Fact 2, while some provinces do allow children as young as 14 to have HRT, not all of them do. EACH person involved - child and parent - are given the outline of what HRT means, the pros AND cons, and have to be informed fully about the risks before signing.
Nature fuks up all the time. It fuked up with me by giving me a shitty pancreas allowing for diabetes to develop. It fuked up for a friend of mine to develop MS. It fuked up in having my uncle develop ALS. It fuks up all the time for people to have a whole bunch of shit.
And guess what, man does what it can to FIX it all the time.
Or are you all for stopping such fixings and letting nature take it's course? A kid born with respiratory problems dies because that's how nature was and it's not up to man to fix it? A kid is born a preemie; let it die. A kid is born with Autism, or brain damage or whatever and oops, can't help them because that's what nature wanted.
Since blockers are already in use to prevent early puberty in kids, expanding that use to Trans kids is a logical step. That's called 'human testing' and treatments go through that phase all the time.
As for HRT, IMO I'd rather see a kid on blockers for a while but then when they're say 16ish have HRT introduced. Give them a couple of years to really live/exist as the gender they feel they are, then see where things are for the kid.
But in the end, I'm not Trans so it's not my decision.

Nobody chooses to have a shitty pancreas or MS.

You live with what you were given and try to live a life without meddling from others.


Don't kid yourself, this is experimenting.

Chemically exercising the demons out of the child.

In the name of the Pfizer, Sunovion and Holy GlaxoSmithKline
 
Hoid
#574
This is the thinking that allows the white natty to hate.
 
JLM
#575
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

This is the thinking that allows the white natty to hate.


Why don't you speak English for Christ sakes instead of repeating the same old hackneyed phrase ad nauseum?
 
taxslave
+2
#576
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

Why don't you speak English for Christ sakes instead of repeating the same old hackneyed phrase ad nauseum?

Cause he hates everyone smarter than him. So basically everyone excepts maybe putz.
 
Serryah
#577
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

Nobody chooses to have a shitty pancreas or MS.

You live with what you were given and try to live a life without meddling from others.


Don't kid yourself, this is experimenting.

Chemically exercising the demons out of the child.

In the name of the Pfizer, Sunovion and Holy GlaxoSmithKline


And no one chooses to be Trans.

You really should stop talking about this topic since you don't A) give a shit really about trans people and B) don't give a shit about learning what being Trans is.
 
Serryah
#578
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

I'm wondering if all these fcuked up kids are born or is it more to do with the way they are raised? Are male roles disappearing?


This proves you don't know jack shyte about what being Trans is about, and you should really just stop being part of the conversation.
 
JLM
+3
#579
Quote: Originally Posted by Serryah View Post

This proves you don't know jack shyte about what being Trans is about, and you should really just stop being part of the conversation.


NO - What that proves is people who have no respect for other's opinions should stop being part of the conversation. Who appointed you to be Speech Warden anyway?
 
JLM
#580
Quote: Originally Posted by Serryah View Post

Again, a trans BOY would not be able to join brownies. He's a BOY, so he'd go to Cubs.


You still trying to peddle that crock?
 
petros
+5
#581
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

This is the thinking that allows the white natty to hate.

I have a huge place in my heart for gays, lesbians and the rest of the non M/F crowd.

My brother was a tranny hooker and my sister finally came out after a shitty divorce.

You name it and I've seen it. Shit that would make a pansy like you either be aroused or scare the f-cking shit out of you.

You're a backwater hick,chicken shit, ecofascist, conformist, loser rascist too scared to sit and have a beer in a pub with Natives in Campbell River.

Have you ever sat and had a beer in the Regent Hotel pub on Hastings just off Main in Vancouver trying to get a friend to go home, shave and put on a new dress because of whiskers growing through his make up and blood from being beat up by a John?

Next time I'm on the Left Coast let's meet up and go down there for a beer. We may or may not run into James but I guarantee the drama you see will not be a departure from what I posted above. It's the same drama 24/7/365 just different actors in the same role.

Are you up for it you f-cking racist, fascist, homophobic prick?
Last edited by petros; May 23rd, 2019 at 01:18 AM..
 
petros
+4
#582
Quote: Originally Posted by Serryah View Post

And no one chooses to be Trans.
You really should stop talking about this topic since you don't A) give a shit really about trans people and B) don't give a shit about learning what being Trans is.

A court just chose. Not on behalf of the child but as revenge on the father who does not want his child chemically altered.

Mental maturity is in step with physical maturity. It's court ordered abuse.

That's sick.
 
petros
+2
#583
Quote: Originally Posted by Serryah View Post

Again, a trans BOY would not be able to join brownies. He's a BOY, so he'd go to Cubs.
Trans GIRLS are approved to join Brownies.

All kids are Trans. They identify with physical features.

A boy can't decide to be a women no more than a women can decide to be a boy.
 
JLM
#584
Quote: Originally Posted by Serryah View Post

And no one chooses to be Trans.

You really should stop talking about this topic since you don't A) give a shit really about trans people and B) don't give a shit about learning what being Trans is.


I think the first thing you should do Serryah, is just remember that other people have opinions that are just as valid as yours.
 
Serryah
-1
#585
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

I think the first thing you should do Serryah, is just remember that other people have opinions that are just as valid as yours.


No problem with valid opinions.


I have a problem with opinions based on nothing but prejudice and the lack of even desire to learn about the damned subject at hand.


Since you don't even give a shit about Trans people, my point is why are you even bothering to spew your ignorance? It doesn't make you informed; just makes you an effin' moron.
 
Serryah
#586
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

All kids are Trans. They identify with physical features.

A boy can't decide to be a women no more than a women can decide to be a boy.


...


I just... can't even after this.
 
Retired_Can_Soldier
+3
#587
Have we opened a floodgate regarding this issue? Will there be people so mesmerized at the idea of having their body changed drastically that they will just sign up? I wonder how it must feel for a family to go to court on an issue like this? To have your family put under the microscope and dissected. Homosexuality is a deviation from the core makeup of why we are here in the first place and that is to procreate. I don't believe being gay is a choice and I don't think that someone who is going to take a huge step like this is doing it so that they can join a cool alternative club.

So, if you really want gender reassignment, have at it.
But...
And there's always a but; isn't there? Parents influencing their children to pick gender at a prepubescent stage is absolute nonsense and the LBTQ community needs to get over itself and stop messing with kids before they've come to an age of sexually.

And one more thing which will piss everyone off.

It isn't the norm, it is a deviation from our genetic makeup; which is to take a mate and procreate..

However, we need to treat people with respect and understand that these decisions don't come easy.

Many kill themselves over it.
 
DaSleeper
#588
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

This is the thinking that allows the white natty to hate.

http://forums.canadiancontent.net/sh...95#post2728295
 
Hoid
#589
Quote: Originally Posted by Retired_Can_Soldier View Post

I wonder how it must feel for a family to go to court on an issue like this? To have your family put under the microscope and dissected.

I wonder what it feels like when your own father does this to the family.

It probably feels like he wants to kill you, which he probably does.
 
petros
+4
#590
Hoid, you are just posting shit not because you believe in what you say, you do it just to an be an asshole.

Homophobic rascist prick.
 
JLM
#591
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

Hoid, you are just posting shit not because you believe in what you say, you do it just to an be an asshole.

Homophobic rascist prick.


Bingo- the thought has crossed my mind many times.
 
Serryah
#592
Quote: Originally Posted by Retired_Can_Soldier View Post

Have we opened a floodgate regarding this issue? Will there be people so mesmerized at the idea of having their body changed drastically that they will just sign up? I wonder how it must feel for a family to go to court on an issue like this? To have your family put under the microscope and dissected. Homosexuality is a deviation from the core makeup of why we are here in the first place and that is to procreate. I don't believe being gay is a choice and I don't think that someone who is going to take a huge step like this is doing it so that they can join a cool alternative club.

So, if you really want gender reassignment, have at it.
But...
And there's always a but; isn't there? Parents influencing their children to pick gender at a prepubescent stage is absolute nonsense and the LBTQ community needs to get over itself and stop messing with kids before they've come to an age of sexually.

And one more thing which will piss everyone off.

It isn't the norm, it is a deviation from our genetic makeup; which is to take a mate and procreate..

However, we need to treat people with respect and understand that these decisions don't come easy.

Many kill themselves over it.


You say this "However, we need to treat people with respect and understand that these decisions don't come easy.

Many kill themselves over it."

And then come out with this? "Parents influencing their children to pick gender at a prepubescent stage is absolute nonsense and the LBTQ community needs to get over itself and stop messing with kids before they've come to an age of sexually."

Where the hell do you think PARENTS are doing this to their kids?

Ugh; ffs... not one of you going off on how being Trans is "wrong" knows jack shit about what being Trans is like.

How about - go learn some stuff first THEN make your comments; don't comment out of ignorance.
 
JLM
+3
#593
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

I wonder what it feels like when your own father does this to the family.

It probably feels like he wants to kill you, which he probably does.


Thank God for the father, at least there appears to be one normal family member!
 
Retired_Can_Soldier
+1
#594
Quote: Originally Posted by Serryah View Post

You say this "However, we need to treat people with respect and understand that these decisions don't come easy.

Many kill themselves over it."

And then come out with this? "Parents influencing their children to pick gender at a prepubescent stage is absolute nonsense and the LBTQ community needs to get over itself and stop messing with kids before they've come to an age of sexually."

Where the hell do you think PARENTS are doing this to their kids?

Ugh; ffs... not one of you going off on how being Trans is "wrong" knows jack shit about what being Trans is like.

How about - go learn some stuff first THEN make your comments; don't comment out of ignorance.


SerryA


Criticism of a community doesn't mean I'm a knuckle dragging neanderthal on the issue.

I have read articles relating to this.

Here is one, which I will preface with:

A four year old has not reached the puberty stage.

LINK to Quote below:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...s-uniform.html
Quote:

Judge backs parents who allowed their four-year-old son to live as a girl and sent him to school in a girl's uniform - despite social workers accusing them of 'actively encouraging' their child's transgender identity

A couple who sent their four-year-old son to school wearing a girl's uniform have been praised as 'good parents' by a senior judge.
Social workers accused the couple of being too quick to recognise the child - referred to as 'H' in court - as transgender at such a young age.
Threatening to take H into care, they said the couple had 'actively encouraged' the child and 'acted in a precipitate manner in relation to perceived gender dysphoria.'
But now High Court judge, Mr Justice Williams, has exonerated the couple, describing them as 'attuned and careful' parents, devoted to H's welfare.
A gender specialist earlier told the judge at the Royal Courts of Justice, in Westminster, that H's 'gender related presentation was consistent with a diagnosis of gender dysphoria.'
She 'clearly identified herself as a girl' and 'appeared to be a content, alert and socially engaged little girl'.
And the judge said H had suffered no harm as a result of her 'complete transition into a female occurring at a very young age'.
He added: 'The evidence demonstrates to the contrary, this was likely to minimise any harm or risk of harm.
'The evidence does not support the contention that it was actively encouraged rather than appropriately supported.'
H' and other children in the couple's care were 'prospering' and it was 'overwhelmingly obvious' that they were good parents.
The family's local council had initially sought the 'immediate removal' of H and the other children from the couple's home.
Social workers said the couple were 'resistant to acknowledging any potential disadvantage to H of being identified as transgender prematurely.'
There was, they claimed, a risk that the the man's 'attitude to gender dysphoria might lead to faulty decision-making'.
The couple were accused of 'failing to prioritise' H's needs and jeopardising her emotional, physical and sexual development.
The council in the end withdrew the care proceedings in the light of glowing expert reports on the couple's parenting skills.
But the couple still felt there was 'a cloud of suspicion hanging over them' and sought complete exoneration in a public judgment.
Mr Justice Williams said the care proceedings had had 'a very obvious and considerable' on the couple.
And he told the court: 'It is self-evident that it is not in the children's welfare interests for these proceedings to continue any further.
'The lives of this family should now proceed on the basis that those concerns were comprehensively dispelled'.
The expert evidence 'provided clinical justification' for the couple's approach to H's gender identity, he added.
When asked about H, her six-year-old brother - 'C' - touchingly acknowledged that she was a 'boy when she was born'.
But the lad showed a 'nuanced understanding' of gender issues and said that his sister was 'now a girl and would grow up to be a woman.'
The judge concluded: 'Issues relating to gender identity and the medical understanding of such issues is complex and developing.
'Inevitably there is some lag between those professionals at the cutting edge and others, in which I include myself, which might have played some role in how these proceedings came about.
'Beyond that I will not venture.'

 
JLM
#595
Quote: Originally Posted by Retired_Can_Soldier View Post

SerryA


Criticism of a community doesn't mean I'm a knuckle dragging neanderthal on the issue.

I have read articles relating to this.

Here is one, which I will preface with:

A four year old has not reached the puberty stage.

LINK to Quote below:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...s-uniform.html


That judge should be disbarred as a criminal! Totally fcuked up what could be a normal kid!
 
Retired_Can_Soldier
+2
#596
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

That judge should be disbarred as a criminal! Totally fcuked up what could be a normal kid!


We don't know that. I did hear an interview with a Transgendered person who claimed they knew early on that they were different. It's a really tough decision, I'm sure, and if one of my grand kids were to come to this decision I would support them as best I could. But it is also a very tough thing for parents to accept.
 
Hoid
#597
No decision is too tough for the white nattys.
 
JLM
+2
#598
Quote: Originally Posted by Retired_Can_Soldier View Post

We don't know that. I did hear an interview with a Transgendered person who claimed they knew early on that they were different. It's a really tough decision, I'm sure, and if one of my grand kids were to come to this decision I would support them as best I could. But it is also a very tough thing for parents to accept.


I just thought age 4 is jumping the gun a bit. I hear you but I think other possibilities should be ruled out first. If it was a girl and she was a tom boy at age 4, it probably wouldn't be taken seriously.
 
DaSleeper
+1
#599
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

No decision is too tough for the white nattys.


http://forums.canadiancontent.net/sh...95#post2728295
 
Serryah
#600
Quote: Originally Posted by Retired_Can_Soldier View Post

SerryA


Criticism of a community doesn't mean I'm a knuckle dragging neanderthal on the issue.

I have read articles relating to this.

Here is one, which I will preface with:

A four year old has not reached the puberty stage.

LINK to Quote below:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...s-uniform.html


Unlike the others, yeah, you aren't being a dick about the Trans issue, I will admit that, and for one, thank you for being honest at least.


For the story you posted, I get the concern. There is a lot still we don't know about Trans people and what it all means.


As you pointed out, some Trans people knew from a young age that they were Trans. I think that's what this family is going on.

That said, it's also possible, early on like this, that it is a curiosity/phase. I think the parents were right to let their kid dress like a girl though, simply because their kid is exploring their world. I'm not sure it's a Trans issue as much as it's a "where do I fit in the world" issue. It could be in the end that their kid isn't Trans, he just likes to dress up in girls clothes, but thinks dressing up as a girl makes him one.


To me, letting kids explore that kind of stuff only helps make them better people.



I don't think the parents are forcing their kid to be Trans, but rather letting their kid explore the world like they want to. The idea of parents 'forcing' their kids to be Trans is still bizarre to me, and if there is a case of it, the parent is a dipshit and they're as hurtful to Trans people as Transphobes and TERFS.



All that said, I get why there is concern about it, but I think the social workers were overstepping their bounds in saying the kid was at risk.