Gun Control is Completely Useless.


Colpy
Conservative
+3
#15361
Quote:

A 1997 Department of Justice-funded study of the 1994 federal “assault weapons” ban determined that “At best, the assault weapons ban can have only a limited effect on total gun murders, because the banned weapons and magazines were never involved in more than a modest fraction of all gun murders.” A 2004 follow-up Department of Justice-funded study came to a similar conclusion. The study determined that “AWs [assault weapons] and LCMs [large capacity magazines] were used in only a minority of gun crimes prior to the 1994 federal ban,” “relatively few attacks involve more than 10 shots fired,” and “the ban’s effects on gun violence are likely to be small at best and perhaps too small for reliable measurement.”


https://dailycaller.com/2019/12/24/v...ng-gun-owners/


Note the study was done during the Clinton administration.


Long gun bans and seizures are very expensive, and have essentially no effect.
 
taxslave
Free Thinker
#15362
Quote: Originally Posted by JamesBondo View Post

How many criminals do you rekon have their firearms registered?

I'm guessing most of the ones issued to government employees are registered. Biggest criminal organization in the country.
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
#15363
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

I'm guessing most of the ones issued to government employees are registered. Biggest criminal organization in the country.


Don't get too carried away, there's a few bad apples but most of them are pretty good. I worked among them for 35 years. They are mainly just people trying to put three squares on the table!
 
taxslave
Free Thinker
#15364
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

Don't get too carried away, there's a few bad apples but most of them are pretty good. I worked among them for 35 years. They are mainly just people trying to put three squares on the table!

You didn't get to pack a gun either. Or steal from people's paycheques.
 
JamesBondo
+2
#15365
Can anyone confirm that government firearms are registered?
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
+1
#15366
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

You didn't get to pack a gun either. Or steal from people's paycheques.


The worst ones I encountered were mainly the ones suffering from Dropsy and Heart Fever...………………………..Dropped down on their ass and didn't have the heart to get up!
 
Jinentonix
No Party Affiliation
+3
#15367
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

And it's being pushed by white people.

Good ol' eco-colonial racism.
 
Jinentonix
No Party Affiliation
+2
#15368
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

it was fake news invented by the gun trolls to try and influence the election.

and the ban is municipal, not federal. for now.

Seriously asshole, why are you such a f*cking liar? Or are you just a really stupid low IQ voter?


From Sept 20, 2019: https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/lib...2019-1.5290950 Oh wait, never mind, the CBC doesn't agree with you so they must be a bunch of White natty gun trolls.


There's no shortage of mainstream news outlets that reported on it either ya laying sack of shit. CBC, the G&M, Global, CTV, ALL of them reported about Trudeau's idiotic gun ban during the election campaign.


Secondly, once again you really are stupid. Cities cannot unilaterally ban firearms. They need the okay from either the province or the Fed. Either one is fine but there has to be one of them backing it for the ban to be legit.



And I called the ban idiotic because it is. The Liberals claim that "military-style assault rifles" are used far too often in killing people. Patently false. The last time there was any serious action with a semi-automatic rifle was the L'Ecole Polytechnique Massacre. In other words the Libtards are still shitting themselves over something that happened like 30 yrs ago.


Meanwhile StatsCan doesn't seem to agree with Groper's assessment. Handguns are used in the bulk of homicides by firearm in Canada. Christ, way more people have been stabbed to death than shot to death by someone with a semi-automatic rifle.




Now, let's see if you actually know your shit. Here are two pictures of rifles. Which one is the "military-style assault rifle" and which one is a hunting rifle?
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
#15369
Quote: Originally Posted by Jinentonix View Post

Seriously asshole, why are you such a f*cking liar? Or are you just a really stupid low IQ voter?


From Sept 20, 2019: https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/lib...2019-1.5290950 Oh wait, never mind, the CBC doesn't agree with you so they must be a bunch of White natty gun trolls.


There's no shortage of mainstream news outlets that reported on it either ya laying sack of shit. CBC, the G&M, Global, CTV, ALL of them reported about Trudeau's idiotic gun ban.


Secondly, once again you really are stupid. Cities cannot unilaterally ban firearms. They need the okay from either the province or the Fed. Either one is fine but there has to be one of them backing it for the ban to be legit.



And I called the ban idiotic because it is. The Liberals claim that "military-style assault rifles" are used far too often in killing people. Patently false. The last time there was any serious action with a semi-automatic rifle was the L'Ecole Polytechnique Massacre. In other words the Libtards are still shitting themselves over something that happened like 30 yrs ago.


Meanwhile StatsCan doesn't seem to agree with Groper's assessment. Handguns are used in the bulk of homicides by firearm in Canada. Christ, way more people have been stabbed to death than shot to death by someone with a semi-automatic rifle.




Now, let's see if you actually know your shit. Here are two pictures of rifles. Which one is the "military-style assault rifle" and which one is a hunting rifle?


Could we say Hoid is a little gun shy?
 
Jinentonix
No Party Affiliation
+4
#15370
StatsCan stats show that Liberal govts in Ottawa are a major source of increased homicides by firearm.


In 2008, Harper's first year, there were 201 firearm related homicides. The numbers steadily declined year after year with a low of 134 in 2013. That is also the lowest since the start of this century. By 2015 it had climbed back up to 179 firearm related homicides. But by 2016 firearm related homicides spiked back up over 200 to 223 in 2016, 267 in 2017, and 249 in 2018. In fact homicide in general has spiked since Team Groper took power.
https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1...6901#timeframe
 
petros
+4
#15371
Policing gangs is racist. The results of such stupidity speaks for itself.
 
spilledthebeer
#15372
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

Name one. Just one real problem with handguns that is not directly related to the person holding it.




HemerHOID has no intention of entering into a logical discussion!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


HemerHOID has made it his business to DENY LIE-beral failings!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


HemerHOID intends to offer a DELUSIONAL argument to the world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


On every contentious subject!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
#15373
Quote: Originally Posted by spilledthebeer View Post

HemerHOID has no intention of entering into a logical discussion!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


HemerHOID has made it his business to DENY LIE-beral failings!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


HemerHOID intends to offer a DELUSIONAL argument to the world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


On every contentious subject!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!


Hoid's biggest problem is his feet are a bit too small!...………………………………………….He keeps getting them in his mouth.
 
spilledthebeer
#15374
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

I'm guessing most of the ones issued to government employees are registered. Biggest criminal organization in the country.


And the alternative to cops would be what????????????


The mafia?????????????????????


Hells Angels??????????????????????????????


Dueling pistols at dawn?????????????????????????????


The BIGGEST PROBLEM with our legal system is that ......


LIE-berals ARE RUNNING IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!



Here is an article illustrating both messed up LIE-beral immigration policy and the sham LIE-beral legal system!! With some comments of my own in brackets):

Mississauga teen convicted of plotting New York City attacks appeals

From CBC/Radio-Canada

Published December 24, 2019

Lawyers for a young Canadian jailed in the U-S for plotting attacks on New York City are appealing his conviction and 40-year sentence.

They say the trial judge violated Abdulrahman El Bahnasawy's rights by denying him the right to a lawyer of his choosing.

(And WHO did he want as a lawyer?? Some unlicenced Muslim goof whose claim to fame is some spurious qualifications from a third world diploma mill and whose ide for defense is to talk the juge to death with nonsense?? We have seen this LIE-beral crap before - with the terrorists who wanted to DERAIL a Toronto Via passenger train off the 100 ft Highland Creek Bridge - and the LIE-beral hug a thug judge allowed a new trial because the previous judge did not instruct the jury “in a proper way” - so it is alleged!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(And OF COURSE there is NO JURY that the Via terrorists will accept because they are on a MISSION FROM GOD - and Sharia Law supercedes any law made by Cdn parliament and thus NO judge or jury has any right to sit in judgement on the DANGEROUS GOOFS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

They also say the 40-year sentence he was handed was inhumane given his youth, mental-health issues and addictions.

(So the goof is a Radical Muslim nutbar with the TYPICALLY UNTREATED mental health issues that LIE-berals always IGNORE and he has been “self medicating”!! A VALID QUESTION would be “who let this jerk into the country”?? And the HONEST answer would be that “he is the PREFERRED AND CHOSEN ideal” LIE-beral candidate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

El-Bahnasawy was a 17-year-old living at home in Mississauga, Ontario, when he met an undercover FBI agent online.

The defence argued the agent then encouraged him to plan attacks on the Big Apple, while prosecutors said the plot was well underway before the two connected.

(Uh huh- and Yankee govt spends A LOT OF MONEY hunting down goofs who are PLANNING ATTACKS!! It was FBI tht gave Cdn cops the tip about the Via Rail derailment plan and FBI also let us know about Aaron Driver - the radicalized Cdn goof who had made a bomb - but detonated it and only killed himself as cops closed in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

El Bahnasawy was arrested as an 18-year-old on the outskirts of New York in May 2016.

(And how dies an 18 year old LUNATIC get the resources to travel to New York City in the first place?? Should we ask what level of parental supervision was in place?? And if the parents KNEW he was a LOON then why let him travel on his own to a foreign country KNOWN for looking hard at Muslims?????????????????)

(And worst of all - should we ask if the parents had grown weary of tending to the LOON and simply decided they could literally kill two birds with one stone by letting the LOON go on his Jihad?? The Loon would be martyred - and removed from parental care - and a blow would be struck at the Yankee Satan????????????)

(But oh dear - the blow was not struck and the LOON was not martyred - and while the family is probably okay with the LOON going to Paradise and living it up with the legendary 72 virgins that virtuous Muslim males are entitled to claim - the family IS NOT HAPPY to see the LOON rot in jail!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(And yet our bankrupt LIE-berals - who routinely RELEASE drunk drivers and persons charged with ASSAULT WITH WEAPONS and people charged with other UNSAVOURY THINGS - up to and including MURDER - are SET FREE because LIE-berals DO NOT have the resources to try such people in a fair and reasonable amount of time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(Even worse - Cdn news media whores are collaborating with their LIE-beral pals to HIDE many gross offenders behind privacy laws - set up deliberately to conceal LIE-beral policy FAILURES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(One has only to think of the “protection” offered to the guy who was arrested in Toronto recently for throwing faeces on people!! The guy apparently made a habit of collecting his own body waste in a bucket stored under his bed in the homeless shelter without anybody noticing the rank odour!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(The guy is homeless and LIE-berals consider it ESSENTIAL that nobody get wind EITHER of the immigration status of the LOON or of his mental health history!! It seems that either the guy is an illegal or else he is yet another LOON who slipped through the cracks in our LIE-beral health care system - OR BOTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(So now we get to pay for the mental health treatments of a pair of LOONS who should never have been let into the country in thge first place!! Thank you LIE-berals for yet more legal and health bills we cannot afford to pay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
 
spilledthebeer
#15375
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

Hoid's biggest problem is his feet are a bit too small!...………………………………………….He keeps getting them in his mouth.




Perhaps if his brain was bigger................................


his mouth would be smaller????????????????


And thus his feet would not fit so easily????????


Sadly we have NO HOPE that he will abandon his absurd



value system and love of LIE-beral Fake News!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
spilledthebeer
#15376
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

Policing gangs is racist. The results of such stupidity speaks for itself.






How is policing gangs racist?????????????????????



Please explain yourself in greater detail!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
spilledthebeer
#15377
Quote: Originally Posted by Jinentonix View Post

StatsCan stats show that Liberal govts in Ottawa are a major source of increased homicides by firearm.


In 2008, Harper's first year, there were 201 firearm related homicides. The numbers steadily declined year after year with a low of 134 in 2013. That is also the lowest since the start of this century. By 2015 it had climbed back up to 179 firearm related homicides. But by 2016 firearm related homicides spiked back up over 200 to 223 in 2016, 267 in 2017, and 249 in 2018. In fact homicide in general has spiked since Team Groper took power.
https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1...6901#timeframe


THAT IS EXCELLENT INFORMATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And PROVES very conclusively that ..........................


our LIE-beral hug a thug legal system IS NOT WORKING!!!!!

 
DaSleeper
+1
#15378
 
spilledthebeer
#15379
Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeper View Post




SSSsssssshhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Be very very quiet.................................


da sleeper does not wish to be awakened...............................


to all the LIE-beral problems!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
55Mercury
+1
#15380
Quote: Originally Posted by spilledthebeans View Post

How is policing gangs racist?????????????????????



Please explain yourself in greater detail!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Pretty sure you didn't pick up on Petros' sarcastic tone.


But the second sentence makes pretty clear that the first thought is stupid.


Now is any further explanation necessary?


You're welcome, Petros!


;?)
 
Tecumsehsbones
+2
#15381
Quote: Originally Posted by Jinentonix View Post

Now, let's see if you actually know your shit. Here are two pictures of rifles. Which one is the "military-style assault rifle" and which one is a hunting rifle?

It's the same weapon pulled out of its old wood frame and put in a replacement polymer frame, with a bunch of gear tacked on.

You can do the same thing with many rifles. They sell kits for it for a couple of hundred bucks.
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
#15382
Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeper View Post


I'm beginning to get the idea he doesn't have much use for them!
 
55Mercury
#15383
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

I'm beginning to get the idea he doesn't have much use for them!

someone said they make good target practice...


but I don't believe that, no sir,


uh-uh


not me



lol
Last edited by 55Mercury; Dec 27th, 2019 at 02:32 AM..
 
Jinentonix
No Party Affiliation
+3
#15384
Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

It's the same weapon pulled out of its old wood frame and put in a replacement polymer frame, with a bunch of gear tacked on.

You can do the same thing with many rifles. They sell kits for it for a couple of hundred bucks.

The question was actually meant for Hoid. I wanted to see if he actually knew what he wanted to have banned.
 
Danbones
Free Thinker
#15385
How do you know it wasn't "hoid" who answered?
 
Jinentonix
No Party Affiliation
+2
#15386
Quote: Originally Posted by Danbones View Post

How do you know it wasn't "hoid" who answered?

Easy. Hoid just isn't that smart.
 
Jinentonix
No Party Affiliation
+3
#15387
Now, if you want to see how utterly clueless the Libtards are when it comes to firearms, this comes right from their most recent gun control screed.


Quote:

protecting the rights of hunters and farmers, by not bringing back the long-gun registry. Hunters and farmers do not use or need assault weapons.

Well, considering the retards think semi-autos are "assault weapons", they got that one wrong too.
 
DaSleeper
+2
#15388
Quote: Originally Posted by Jinentonix View Post

Now, if you want to see how utterly clueless the Libtards are when it comes to firearms, this comes right from their most recent gun control screed.


Well, considering the retards think semi-autos are "assault weapons", they got that one wrong too.

This old hunting buddy of mine used a rugger single shot 7mm magnum for deer and moose.
He always had an extra round in his left hand....(He said in case he should happen to see two two of them)
 
petros
+2
#15389
Quote: Originally Posted by spilledthebeer View Post

How is policing gangs racist?????????????????????


Please explain yourself in greater detail!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

One word; "carding".

Did you sleep thru "Black Lives Matter"?

Carding, which is officially known as the Community Contacts Policy, is an intelligence gathering policy of the Canadian Police Services involving the stopping, questioning, and documenting of individuals when no particular offense is being investigated.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org › wiki
Carding (police policy) - Wikipedia
Last edited by petros; Dec 27th, 2019 at 10:24 AM..
 
spilledthebeer
#15390
Quote: Originally Posted by Jinentonix View Post

Now, if you want to see how utterly clueless the Libtards are when it comes to firearms, this comes right from their most recent gun control screed.


Well, considering the retards think semi-autos are "assault weapons", they got that one wrong too.


LIE-beral logic is NO LOGIC AT ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


In Toronto we have almost as many people getting STABBED as there are getting shot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Thus we should perhaps ban knives??????????????????



And what about banning white rental vans?????????????


After all that LUNATIC Minassian rented a van and ran it down Young St side walks...........................................


and killed or wounded several dozen people on Toronto sidewalks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Clearly white vans are a deadly weapon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But......................do you suppose rented vans are just as deadly if they are painted another colour??????????????????


How many lives can be saved by banning vans?????????????????????


And what of the people run over by hijacked heavy trucks in France and Germany????????????????????


If killers cannot get access to assault weapons or white vans...............................


will they use heavy trucks instead????????????????


Should we BAN heavy trucks just in case????????????????????????



Or maybe we should just BAN hijackers and killers????????????????????????


Oh wait- isnt murder ALREADY ILLEGAL??????????????????????????????


And van killer Minassian and the Danforth Shooter were BOTH mentally ILL...................................


and thus maybe we should discuss BANNING mentally ill people from our society!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Why are we not discussing THAT ISSUE???????????????????????



The number of hunters out there is apparently smaller than the number of animal lovers who do NOT APPROVE of hunting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And thus LIE-berals suck up to PETA style animal rights nuts................................


and they put pressure on hunters to make their sport MORE POLITICALLY ACCEPTABLE.....................................


BY PAYING HIGHER FEES FOR ACCESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!


And of course eating meat is seen by some animal rights people AS A CRIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


How long before LIE-berals start buying PETA voters with extra taxes on meat eaters???????????????????


Oh wait -they ARE DOING THAT - lobbing carbon tax SCAM bombs onto hunters and fishermen traveling to their favorite spots!!!!!!!


Adding carbon tax scam costs onto the supermarket freezer power supplies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Adding carbon tax SCAM costs onto the fruit and veggies we truck in from California!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


How much crunchy granola can one citizen STAND TO eat in a year????????????????????????


And why are LIE-berals pumping out those Health Canada tv ads - when they also claim that trucking in loads of fruit and veggies



from other countries is destroying the environment!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!


LIE-beral values are so twisted - they are more concerned about the fish you caught and ate..............................


than they are about gang bangers killing each other!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Do LIE-berals HAVE ANY LONG TERM PLAN AT ALL?????????????????????????


Other than to grab as much gravy as they can before we throw them out of office???????????????????????