Global Warming: still the ‘Greatest Scam in History’


Walter
#1801
Quote: Originally Posted by Bar Sinister View Post

"ere?" Do you mean err?

Good catch of a typo. My spellcheck missed that one as did I.
Last edited by Walter; Nov 18th, 2018 at 08:50 AM..
 
petros
+1
#1802
Quote: Originally Posted by Walter View Post

When the Scientific Consensus Is Corrected by a Skeptic
https://www.commentarymagazine.com/c...-by-a-skeptic/
But we must ere on the side of caution. Such inanity.

There was another article on the bad calculations recently. Too bad nobody cares about being lied to
 
Bar Sinister
-1
#1803
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

There was another article on the bad calculations recently. Too bad nobody cares about being lied to




Hey Petros - I noticed you were dead silent about my post on big oil asking the government to protect it against storms caused by climate change. Want me to post it again? Hell, I will anyway.


So what does big oil know that it doesn't want us to know?


Big oil asks government to protect it from climate change

https://business.financialpost.com/p...climate-change





Resident Engineer Steve Sherrill, with the US Army Corps of Engineers, talks about the project to raise some of the levees and seawalls in the area Thursday, July 26, 2018, in Port Arthur, Texas. As the nation plans new defenses against the more powerful storms and higher tides expected from climate change, one project stands out: an ambitious proposal to build a nearly 60-mile "spine" of concrete seawalls, earthen barriers, floating gates and steel levees on the Texas Gulf Coast.
 
Gilgamesh
+4
#1804
Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

Only a fool would think flooding has any connection with global warming.

Think building on flood plains, population expansion, lack of sewers etc..

Oh, and try thinking!
 
Danbones
+1
#1805
ONTARIO...Winter-like chill...

Ontario: Bursts of snow, record January-like cold temps
https://www.theweathernetwork.com/ne...e-cold/116348/
 
Gilgamesh
+1
#1806
Quote: Originally Posted by Danbones View Post

ONTARIO...Winter-like chill...

Ontario: Bursts of snow, record January-like cold temps
https://www.theweathernetwork.com/ne...e-cold/116348/

Oh dear me. Colder temps in winter time.

Who could have predicted that?
 
JLM
#1807
Quote: Originally Posted by Gilgamesh View Post

Only a fool would think flooding has any connection with global warming.

Think building on flood plains, population expansion, lack of sewers etc..

Oh, and try thinking!


I'd say "Global Warming" is definitely a misnomer, but as for "Polar Warming", I'm not so sure!
 
MHz
#1808
Quote: Originally Posted by Bar Sinister View Post


So what does big oil know that it doesn't want us to know?


Big oil asks government to protect it from climate change

Maybe we should cut out royalties in 1/2 in a bid to help them survive.
 
petros
+2
#1809
Quote: Originally Posted by Bar Sinister View Post

Hey Petros - I noticed you were dead silent about my post on big oil asking the government to protect it against storms caused by climate change. Want me to post it again? Hell, I will anyway.
So what does big oil know that it doesn't want us to know?

Big oil asks government to protect it from climate change
https://business.financialpost.com/p...climate-change

Resident Engineer Steve Sherrill, with the US Army Corps of Engineers, talks about the project to raise some of the levees and seawalls in the area Thursday, July 26, 2018, in Port Arthur, Texas. As the nation plans new defenses against the more powerful storms and higher tides expected from climate change, one project stands out: an ambitious proposal to build a nearly 60-mile "spine" of concrete seawalls, earthen barriers, floating gates and steel levees on the Texas Gulf Coast.


It's not a secret the Army Corp of Engineers knew it was time to rebuild the levees in Louisiana and Texas long before the Climate Change unicorn escaped from the zoo.


By all means, look it up. You might find articles such as this. Note the dates.


Between 1970 and 1975, the Corps developed a plan for massive sea gates for the region east of New Orleans that would prevent storm surge from flowing through Lake Borgne and into Lake Pontchartrain through the Rigolets and Chef Menteur passes. Referred to as the Barrier Plan, it included a series of levees along the lake Gulf Intracoastal Waterway (GIWW), a navigable inland waterway.[41] A small group, led by Luke Fontana, filed a lawsuit against the Barrier Plan in 1976 over the Corps’ Environmental Impact Study (EIS). In Save our Wetlands v Rush, the plaintiffs claimed that the Corps’ EIS did not meet the requirements of Section 102 of the National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA). The court agreed with Fontana noting, among other things, that the EIS was based on obsolete data and that the Corps’ biological analysis ‘relied entirely on a single telephone conversation with a marine biologist.’[42] Judge Charles Schwartz issued an injunction preventing further progress on the barrier option until the Corps revised its EIS. However, the Corps did not return and, in 1980, concluded that an alternative option of higher levees providing hurricane protection was less costly, less damaging to the environment and more acceptable to local interests[43]

After Katrina, the controversy was revisited, with some blaming the lack of the massive barriers – and the environmentalists – for the storm's destruction. But Corps' officials told the Government Accountability Office that "if they had gone ahead with the floodgate plan, Katrina's devastation would have been even worse, because the barriers would not have been large enough to keep the storm surge out of the lake – and the levees around the city would have been even lower."[44]
Last edited by petros; Nov 19th, 2018 at 04:34 PM..
 
Hoid
#1810
Quote: Originally Posted by Bar Sinister View Post

"ere?" Do you mean err? Or are you referring to the inside of your head, which would be "air."

This a what makes Walter's claim to have been a school teacher so hilarious
 
Bar Sinister
#1811
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

It's not a secret the Army Corp of Engineers knew it was time to rebuild the levees in Louisiana and Texas long before the Climate Change unicorn escaped from the zoo.


By all means, look it up. You might find articles such as this. Note the dates.


Between 1970 and 1975, the Corps developed a plan for massive sea gates for the region east of New Orleans that would prevent storm surge from flowing through Lake Borgne and into Lake Pontchartrain through the Rigolets and Chef Menteur passes. Referred to as the Barrier Plan, it included a series of levees along the lake Gulf Intracoastal Waterway (GIWW), a navigable inland waterway.[41] A small group, led by Luke Fontana, filed a lawsuit against the Barrier Plan in 1976 over the Corps’ Environmental Impact Study (EIS). In Save our Wetlands v Rush, the plaintiffs claimed that the Corps’ EIS did not meet the requirements of Section 102 of the National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA). The court agreed with Fontana noting, among other things, that the EIS was based on obsolete data and that the Corps’ biological analysis ‘relied entirely on a single telephone conversation with a marine biologist.’[42] Judge Charles Schwartz issued an injunction preventing further progress on the barrier option until the Corps revised its EIS. However, the Corps did not return and, in 1980, concluded that an alternative option of higher levees providing hurricane protection was less costly, less damaging to the environment and more acceptable to local interests[43]

After Katrina, the controversy was revisited, with some blaming the lack of the massive barriers – and the environmentalists – for the storm's destruction. But Corps' officials told the Government Accountability Office that "if they had gone ahead with the floodgate plan, Katrina's devastation would have been even worse, because the barriers would not have been large enough to keep the storm surge out of the lake – and the levees around the city would have been even lower."[44]




I see that you deliberately missed the point, which is that Big Oil fully recognizes the dangers brought on by global warming.
 
petros
+2
#1812
Because the Sierra Club says they do? Nowhere in the article does it say anything about "big oil" (whatever the f-ck that is) saying they want levees to protect them from global warming.
 
EagleSmack
+2
#1813
UN environment chief resigns after frequent flying revelations


http://www.theguardian.com/environme...ng-revelations




What a SCAM. It's one big junket, one long gravy train for these con-artists.
 
Curious Cdn
#1814
Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmack View Post

UN environment chief resigns after frequent flying revelations
http://www.theguardian.com/environme...ng-revelations
What a SCAM. It's one big junket, one long gravy train for these con-artists.

He must have a carbon footprint as big as a dinosaur's arse on top of it.
 
darkbeaver
+1
#1815
Quote: Originally Posted by Gilgamesh View Post

Oh dear me. Colder temps in winter time.

Who could have predicted that?


Those are early record cold temps and it isn,t official winter yet. Similar adverse conditions are to be witnessed globally.
 
Bar Sinister
#1816
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

Because the Sierra Club says they do? Nowhere in the article does it say anything about "big oil" (whatever the f-ck that is) saying they want levees to protect them from global warming.




Never get tiered of lying do you? Guess you didn't read this part of the article:


"Oil and chemical companies also pushed for more protection for surrounding communities to shield their workforces,"


And "Phillips 66 and other energy firms spent money last year lobbying Congress on storm-related funding post-Harvey, campaign finance records show, and Houston’s Lyondell Chemical Co. PAC lobbied for building a coastal spine.“The coastal spine benefits more than just our industry,” Bob Patel, CEO of LyondellBasell, one of the world’s largest plastics, chemicals and refining companies, said in March. “It really needs to be a regional effort.”




And then there is this:
Big oil asks government to protect it from climate change

https://www.nola.com/environment/ind...nt_to_pro.html


Once again, thanks for being so easy to refute.
 
Bar Sinister
#1817
 
Bar Sinister
#1818
Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaver View Post

Those are early record cold temps and it isn,t official winter yet. Similar adverse conditions are to be witnessed globally.


Globally? We have record highs here.
 
Danbones
#1819
Yeah miz memes are for kids, back to the real news:

Cold Sun Warning! 350-Year Ice Age Starting in Months

Cold Sun Warning! 350-Year Ice Age Starting in Months
Today's TruNews may be one of the most important in the ministry's history. Host Rick Wiles offers stunning evidence that the earth will soon enter into a drastic cooling cycle, contrary to the current religion of world-wide climate change. Featured is Professor Valentina Zkarkova, whose latest models have been updated from a decades-long cold snap, to one lasting centuries.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbVtDa3DqRQ

"current religion"....woowoo woowooo
 
Danbones
+1
#1820
Quote: Originally Posted by Bar Sinister View Post

Globally? We have record highs here.

Nice links, you are the one that's missing.

I know you think man made climate change is the same as man maid global warming, but really after all the mistakes and scams that have already been exposed, only a stunned c*nt could BUY that mold time religion.

Frick, you folks seem to have a real problem doing math and history, that's for certain.

- 25 degrees records!... lol, Do you have any plus 25 degree records there, bub?

Your wiener will be glad he is all shriveled up in jail.

Lawrence Solomon: Proof that a new ice age has already started is stronger than ever, and we couldn’t be less prepared
An underheated planet is a threat humans have repeatedly faced over the last millennium, and now we’re due again

“The New Little Ice Age Has Started.” This is the unambiguous title of a new study from one of the world’s most prestigious scientific institutions, the Russian Academy of Science’s Pulkovo Observatory in St. Petersburg. “The average temperature around the globe will fall by about 1.5 C when we enter the deep cooling phase of the Little Ice Age, expected in the year 2060,” the study states. “The cooling phase will last for about 45-65 years, for four to six 11-year cycles of the Sun, after which on the Earth, at the beginning of the 22nd century, will begin the new, next quasi-bicentennial cycle of warming.”

Habibullo Abdussamatov, the head of space research at Pulkovo and the author of the study, has been predicting the arrival of another little ice age since 2003, based on his study of the behaviour of the Sun’s different cycles and the solar activity that then results. His model — informed by Earth’s 18 earlier little ice ages over the past 7,500 years, six of them in the last thousand years — led to his prediction more than a decade ago that the next little ice age would occur between 2012 and 2015.

Unlike the global warming models of scientists, which were soon disproved by actual measurements...
https://business.financialpost.com/o...-less-prepared

Europe's Little Ice Age: 'All things which grew above the ground died and starved'
One in a series of book excerpts from finalists for McGill University's US$75,000 Cundill History Prize
https://nationalpost.com/opinion/eur...ed-and-starved

Lawrence Solomon: Everyone’s a climate change leader, until their claim becomes quantifiable
The climate change industry is abstract and ephemeral, based on ever-shifting targets and far-off projections
https://business.financialpost.com/o...e-quantifiable

Think the past winter was bad? Get ready for mini Ice Age
https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/op...254851541.html


But then there are you nutbar genocidal trumphaters who don't even know what starts forest fires.
:0
Which is what is really killing people in California.

Here let me remind you of how stupid and dishonest you globalwarmists really are:

TOP 5 FAILED ‘SNOW FREE’ AND ‘ICE FREE’ PREDICTIONS
1.) Scientists predicted in 2000 that kids would grow up without snow.
2.) It’s been 10 years since scientists predicted the “end of skiing” in Scotland
3.) The Arctic would be “ice-free” by now.
4.) Environmentalists predicted the end of spring snowfall.
In March 2013, the Union of Concerned Scientists predicted that warmer springs would mean declines in snow cover.

But the record levels of snowfall to hit this year may have caught UCS off guard. On Monday, the U.S. east coast was hit with a massive snowstorm that stretched for 1,300 miles and those in the Baltimore-D.C. area were hit with a 141-year record cold of 4 degrees Fahrenheit on Tuesday morning.

“Many places tied or broke record lows all over the Eastern half of the U.S.,” reported CBS Baltimore.
5.) The end of skiing.
https://dailycaller.com/2014/03/04/t...e-predictions/


Yup, snow sure is/was a thing from the past alright.

Have you ever thought of seeing a doctor "there" Sqwidward? You could have your diseased body frozen for the future day when they have a cure for bodies!
Last edited by Danbones; Nov 21st, 2018 at 12:47 AM..
 
Danbones
+3
#1821
PS:
Oh look! It isn't the sun that's causing the new ice age, it's man maid volcanoes!

SCIENCE | April 30. 2013. 16:30
Why changes in solar activity don’t mean a ‘mini ice age’ is on the way
https://www.carbonbrief.org/why-chan...-is-on-the-way

Geeezus!!!!...and to think they all go off according to the solar cycles too...


One scientist says this temp drop could be the dawn of an itty bitty ice age

Complain all you want, it is apparently THAT cold.

Montreal has just survived an all-time record cold streak. Six crisp consecutive days below -17C degrees (underscored by exactly zero long johns in my size at the store earlier this week). Friends in Toronto are no better off.

Environment Canada has issued an extreme cold temperature warning to folks in the GTA (the extreme cold criteria is a bracing -30C degrees, so do get to the local long john store today).

There was also talk of brave, well-bundled snow zombies in Edmonton. Saskatchewan, Manitoba, New Brunswick and Nova Scotia have all received similar temp alerts. In case you've been cleverly hibernating since November, it's officially colder in Canada than usual. Anyone who isn't a Yeti should note that this newer, cooler Canada could be here for, wait for it, another two decades. Weep as you see fit, your tears will freeze anyway.

No kleenex needed! Bonus.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montre...reak-1.4470272

The Stunning Statistical Fraud Behind The Global Warming Scare

Global Warming: The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration may have a boring name, but it has a very important job: It measures U.S. temperatures. Unfortunately, it seems to be a captive of the global warming religion.

Its data is fraudulent.

What do we mean by fraudulent? How about this: NOAA has made repeated "adjustments" to its data, for the presumed scientific reason of making the data sets more accurate.

Nothing wrong with that. Except, all their changes point to one thing — lowering previously measured temperatures to show cooler weather in the past, and raising more recent temperatures to show warming in the recent present.
https://www.investors.com/politics/e...warming-scare/


So how come Everything, yes...EVERYTHING about you trumphaters proves to be FRAUDULENT?
Last edited by Danbones; Nov 21st, 2018 at 01:05 AM..
 
Danbones
#1822
Blast of snow for New England before record-cold Thanksgiving

Record lows are expected throughout the region, with daytime temperatures forecast to be 20 to 35 degrees below normal
http://sandhillsexpress.com/abc_nati...abcid36131389/
 
petros
+1
#1823
Quote: Originally Posted by Bar Sinister View Post

Globally? We have record highs here.

Please link to "the record".
 
Bar Sinister
#1824
I really have to laugh at how poorly global warming deniers understand climate. They frequently use local weather conditions as proof that the Earth is not getting warmer, but completely fail to understand that the amount of solar energy reaching the Earth hardly fluctuates at all. In fact solar output fluctuates by only about one-tenth of one percent. What that means is that even though it may be unseasonably cold in some locals the overall average temperature of the Earth has not changed on that particular day. However, the deniers insist on posting irrelevant and often anecdotal data as proof that GW is not happening, when in fact worldwide climate data proves that it is. So far as I am concerned unless climate deniers can actually offer scientific proof that the Earth is cooling or as best, not warming, then the case for denial is closed.



If you are interested you can read more about solar output and the global warming in the links below.



https://www.nasa.gov/topics/solarsys...riability.html


https://climate.nasa.gov/news/2671/l...017-nasa-noaa/
 
JLM
+1
#1825
Quote: Originally Posted by Bar Sinister View Post

I really have to laugh at how poorly global warming deniers understand climate. They frequently use local weather conditions as proof that the Earth is not getting warmer, but completely fail to understand that the amount of solar energy reaching the Earth hardly fluctuates at all. In fact solar output fluctuates by only about one-tenth of one percent. What that means is that even though it may be unseasonably cold in some locals the overall average temperature of the Earth has not changed on that particular day. However, the deniers insist on posting irrelevant and often anecdotal data as proof that GW is not happening, when in fact worldwide climate data proves that it is. So far as I am concerned unless climate deniers can actually offer scientific proof that the Earth is cooling or as best, not warming, then the case for denial is closed.



If you are interested you can read more about solar output and the global warming in the links below.



https://www.nasa.gov/topics/solarsys...riability.html


https://climate.nasa.gov/news/2671/l...017-nasa-noaa/


You tend to forget that not everyone is as stupid as you are! Weather is like one piece in a jigsaw puzzle. Without it you don't have the complete picture!
 
darkbeaver
#1826
Quote: Originally Posted by Bar Sinister View Post

Globally? We have record highs here.


I,m not surprised and you,re not the only one experianceing local out of ordinary climate which includes a mix of hot and cold. Some deserts have grass growing in them now and the locals have never seen any nor had there parents.
 
darkbeaver
+1
#1827
The derogotory term "denier"is perhaps most applicable to officials and there agencys. Of course these officials are dependents of the most powerfull ruling class and even if thier own driveways are plugged with supposed/proposed impossible snow they are obliged to conform to the official word or join those fellows on the bread lines. Can you appreciate the looming extermination event? Having trouble adapting to that certain enevitability? Are you in denial?
 
darkbeaver
#1828
Quote: Originally Posted by Bar Sinister View Post

I really have to laugh at how poorly global warming deniers understand climate. They frequently use local weather conditions as proof that the Earth is not getting warmer, but completely fail to understand that the amount of solar energy reaching the Earth hardly fluctuates at all. In fact solar output fluctuates by only about one-tenth of one percent. What that means is that even though it may be unseasonably cold in some locals the overall average temperature of the Earth has not changed on that particular day. However, the deniers insist on posting irrelevant and often anecdotal data as proof that GW is not happening, when in fact worldwide climate data proves that it is. So far as I am concerned unless climate deniers can actually offer scientific proof that the Earth is cooling or as best, not warming, then the case for denial is closed.



If you are interested you can read more about solar output and the global warming in the links below.



https://www.nasa.gov/topics/solarsys...riability.html


https://climate.nasa.gov/news/2671/l...017-nasa-noaa/


Global warming stopped at arround .5 C some time ago. It,s obvious that you have not considered that you may be mistaken, a year or two from now you,ll be more informed .
 
MHz
#1829
How much more will that cost, it sounds very, very expensive.
 
Gilgamesh
+3
#1830
Quote: Originally Posted by Bar Sinister View Post

What a stupid cartoon. Recent fires in SoCal have SFA to do with global warming and a lot to do with population expansion, and forest mismanagement.

The bs never ends.
 

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