Affirming many points here

Torch light
#1
FIRST:
1- The stratosphere is steady, stable and relatively calm, so its constituent gases have been separated into seven gaseous layers .. according to the specific weight of each gas.
It is stable because its lower part is colder (about - 60 centigrade) and it gets hotter as one goes up until it is hottest (about zero centigrade) in its top sub-layer.
http://www.quran-ayat.com/universe/i...aseous_Heavens
quran-ayat.com/universe/index.htm#The_Gaseous_Heavens

2- The Global Warmth is almost because the earth has become somewhat nearer to the sun ... and therefore, the heat has increased all over the earth .. the cold regions became less cold and the hot regions became more hot.
Other factors like the greenhouse effect may be of less importance.
http://www.quran-ayat.com/universe/n...aches_the_Sun_
quran-ayat.com/universe/new_page_4.htm#The_Earth_Approaches_the_Sun_

3- There is life on Mars:
Mars and the planets farther than it bear life in all its forms including man-kind and genie-kind, in addition to plants and animals.
http://www.quran-ayat.com/universe/i...Are_Inhabited_
quran-ayat.com/universe/index.htm#The_planets_Are_Inhabited_

4- Origin of the earth and the planets:
The planets together with the earth had been one sun which then converted into an earth with thin crust then burst into nine pieces -> leading to the formation of the earth and the planets which circled around the nearest sun to them, which was our present sun --> so that a new solar system: the present one issued.
http://www.quran-ayat.com/universe/i...f_the_Planets_
quran-ayat.com/universe/index.htm#Formation_of_the_Planets_
 
OmegaOm
#2
You have never read any astronomy text books I see.
 
Torch light
#3
I have read some astronomy texts, but you yourself study this valuable book then give judgment after studying it carefully:
The Universe and the Quran by one who did not graduate at any school; he only knew reading and writing Arabic, but was inspired: Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly, died in the year 1991.
http://www.quran-ayat.com/universe/index.htm
quran-ayat.com/universe/index.htm

So as you are just, fair and having scientific perception, study it then give your judgment.
 
OmegaOm
#4
I do not need to study it. IT makes no sense to me. And it contradicts all the astronomy knowledge to date. The knowledge thats makes sense and explains every little detail. The knowledge that makes this technology world function. With those theories you can not get micro chips or gps, or nuclear power or pretty much anything. It is nothing more then the ancients way of trying to comprehend what is going on at that time.

If everybody stopped believing in God. There would be more peace. There would be no, my God said this, your God says this. IT would only be what the evidence says it to be. We can then get beyond fighting over God and instead fight over what is really right and wrong.

Believing in organized religion causes so much death and suffering on this Earth. Imagine if none believed in the middle east. How much of the war there is caused by believing in God. The world powers can control the people who believe in God by saying its God talking.

I am not debating a personal God. A god you believe with yourself. I have my personal God myself. Just any organized religion God, who always has a political agenda.

Only God can know anything about God. None of us Humans can claim anything about Gods word.
You can say its being a heretic by even saying that you know anything about Gods word. Because Only a God can know even one thing about God. A God would look down and say how do little tiny you know what I want.

God gave us science as a tool to try to figure out what is going on.
The Muslims have a big part in starting to get that knowledge. They gave us algebra, they named most of our visible stars. And this was done with curiosity not the Quran.
Last edited by OmegaOm; Dec 15th, 2017 at 06:03 AM..
 
OmegaOm
#5
Sorry to be so Bold in my last comment Torch Light. Had a few too many beers.
I did try to read it, but it is too long to read, and I found major contradictions to science right away, with the formation of our solar system.
https://www.universetoday.com/38118/...system-formed/

I guess science and religion would seem never to agree on anything.

One thing I must point out about the ancient texts of God, is how come they did not know about Uranus or Neptune as planets. If they are divine they should of known.
It wasnt till we had telescopes that we could see them with our eyes, that we found them.

Sorry again torch light, I should of left your thread alone.
Last edited by OmegaOm; Dec 15th, 2017 at 11:20 PM..
 
Johnnny
#6
Quote: Originally Posted by OmegaOm View Post

One thing I must point out about the ancient texts of God, is how come they did not know about Uranus or Neptune as planets. If they are divine they should of known.
It wasnt till we had telescopes that we could see them with our eyes, that we found them.

Or the existence of the dwarf planet such as Pluto like in your avatar...
Last edited by Johnnny; Dec 16th, 2017 at 07:27 AM..
 
OmegaOm
+1
#7  Top Rated Post
I want to apologize again for what I have said. I was drunk and I did not mean any of the words I said.
Please forgive me. I will not question God again.
 
Johnnny
#8
Quote: Originally Posted by OmegaOm View Post

I want to apologize again for what I have said. I was drunk and I did not mean any of the words I said.
Please forgive me. I will not question God again.

Chill out...
 
Torch light
#9
I did not say that anyone should not ask God; on the contrary all people should ask of God .. and of Him alone in fact ... not from anyone else like the Christ, his mother, the Christian saints, the Jewish sages, the Muslims imams, and others ... because this will in fact be the idolatry contrary to the First Commandment: to worship God alone.

http://www.quran-ayat.com/universe/i...st_Commandment
quran-ayat.com/universe/index.htm#First_Commandment

The atheist and idolater are liars when they claim they do not ask of God .. and if they insist to admit it, they will be obliged to do so in the Next Life.

In the previous few days, I was busy and could not complete the thread.
I was busy in preparing the Quran interpretation for publishing in Arabic, and may be published in the coming days, by God's will.
Last edited by Torch light; Dec 17th, 2017 at 07:34 AM..
 
Curious Cdn
#10
Quote: Originally Posted by Torch light View Post

I did not say that anyone should not ask God; on the contrary all people should ask of God .. and of Him alone in fact ... not from anyone else like the Christ, his mother, the Christian saints, the Jewish sages, the Muslims imams, and others ... because this will in fact be the idolatry contrary to the First Commandment: to worship God alone.

http://www.quran-ayat.com/universe/i...st_Commandment
quran-ayat.com/universe/index.htm#First_Commandment

The atheist and idolater are liars when they claim they do not ask of God .. and if they insist to admit it, they will be obliged to do so in the Next Life.

In the previous few days, I was busy and could not complete the thread.

Finally finished that explosive vest, eh?
 
Torch light
#11
SECOND :
The planets are arranged around the sun according to their sizes: the smallest Mercury is the nearest to the sun, the biggest Neptune the biggest is the farthest from the sun.

Therefore, Mars is bigger than Earth, and Jupiter is not the biggest planet.
http://www.quran-ayat.com/universe/n...far_from_the_s
quran-ayat.com/universe/new_page_2.htm#Why_the_planet_is_near_or_far_from_ the_s

http://www.quran-ayat.com/universe/n...Astronomers_Co
quran-ayat.com/universe/new_page_3.htm#The_Wrong_Calculations_of_Astronome rs_Co

http://www.quran-ayat.com/universe/n...Astronomers_Ju
quran-ayat.com/universe/new_page_3.htm#The_Wrong_Calculations_of_Astronome rs_Ju
 
Johnnny
#12
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

Finally finished that explosive vest, eh?

He's probably just mad that the Iraqi parliament recently rejected marriage for 8 year old girls...
 
Torch light
#13
THIRD :
The earth core has become colder than before; it will gradually slow down until it will stop its axial rotation after about one thousand years.
http://www.quran-ayat.com/universe/n..._of_the_Earth_
quran-ayat.com/universe/new_page_4.htm#The_Standstill_of_the_Earth_

Venus stopped its axial rotation as had Mercury stopped to rotate around itself before .. that is after the coldness of their cores. The earth will follow them in this respect after 1000 years.
http://www.quran-ayat.com/universe/n...ill_Standstill
quran-ayat.com/universe/new_page_4.htm#How_the_Planets_Will_Standstill

http://www.quran-ayat.com/universe/n...Axial_Rotation
quran-ayat.com/universe/new_page_4.htm#Mercury_Has_Stopped_Its_Axial_Rotat ion

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FOURTH :

The Doomsday is inevitable: it will happen after about 2000 years: the earth will stop spinning around itself and keep one face towards the sun which will be in lasting day, and the opposite face will be in darkness of a lasting night. So after stopping for 1000 years, Doomsday will occur and the earth together with the planets and the sun will burst and break up into pieces.

The reason for the occurring of Doomsday and its portents are discussed in details in many links of the book: The Universe and the Quran.

http://www.quran-ayat.com/universe/n...at_Is_Doomsday
quran-ayat.com/universe/new_page_4.htm#What_Is_Doomsday
Last edited by Torch light; Dec 17th, 2017 at 07:54 AM..
 
Cliffy
#14
 
petros
#15
Quote: Originally Posted by OmegaOm View Post


I guess science and religion would seem never to agree on anything.

Science fanaticism has become a new Religion.

Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

Grow up. The answers you seek can only be found with a clear mind.
 
Torch light
#16
FIFTH :

Sunspots are due to some meteorites attracted by the sun and then immersed inside it.
This is why:
>> Sunspots are darker than the surrounding sun surface.
>> They cooler than the surrounding sun surface.
>> They indicate a saucer-shaped depression with a bottom surrounded by a sloping periphery.

http://www.quran-ayat.com/universe/n...4.htm#Sunspots
quran-ayat.com/universe/new_page_4.htm#Sunspots

===============================================

SIXTH :

Comets are fire masses emitted out of the sun at high speed; they are fire oblong objects which do not spin around themselves; they are fire objects from the start, and are attracted by the frozen and cold regions of the planets and moons. They are not ice surrounded by dirt!
http://www.quran-ayat.com/universe/n...e_3.htm#Comets
quran-ayat.com/universe/new_page_3.htm#Comets
 
Alternative
#17
Quote: Originally Posted by OmegaOm View Post

I do not need to study it. IT makes no sense to me. And it contradicts all the astronomy knowledge to date. The knowledge thats makes sense and explains every little detail. The knowledge that makes this technology world function. With those theories you can not get micro chips or gps, or nuclear power or pretty much anything. It is nothing more then the ancients way of trying to comprehend what is going on at that time.

If everybody stopped believing in God. There would be more peace. There would be no, my God said this, your God says this. IT would only be what the evidence says it to be. We can then get beyond fighting over God and instead fight over what is really right and wrong.

Believing in organized religion causes so much death and suffering on this Earth. Imagine if none believed in the middle east. How much of the war there is caused by believing in God. The world powers can control the people who believe in God by saying its God talking.

I am not debating a personal God. A god you believe with yourself. I have my personal God myself. Just any organized religion God, who always has a political agenda.

Only God can know anything about God. None of us Humans can claim anything about Gods word.
You can say its being a heretic by even saying that you know anything about Gods word. Because Only a God can know even one thing about God. A God would look down and say how do little tiny you know what I want.

God gave us science as a tool to try to figure out what is going on.
The Muslims have a big part in starting to get that knowledge. They gave us algebra, they named most of our visible stars. And this was done with curiosity not the Quran.

No. If God want me he creater me believe and trust on God.
If he doesn't want me I am atheist whole lived time.
If true I became to hell if the God's not wanted the new time it is four or 10th next time.
 
Torch light
#18
SEVENTH :

Life is transmigrant; it migrates from one destroyed planet to another newly formed planets; life came to Earth and the rest of planets embedded in the meteorites which fell on the planets forming the mountains on the earth and the other planets.

http://www.quran-ayat.com/universe/n..._Transmissible
quran-ayat.com/universe/new_page_2.htm#Life_Is_Transmissible

===============================================

EIGHTH :

There is life with all its forms on Mars and the planets beyond it.
There are people on Mars: people of Mars, created by God there and reproduced there.
There will be a meeting between the people of Earth and people of Mars in this life of the World.

http://www.quran-ayat.com/universe/n...pated_Meeting_
quran-ayat.com/universe/new_page_2.htm#An_Anticipated_Meeting_
 
Curious Cdn
#19
There is tin foil in all it's forms available all through the Middle East.
 
Torch light
#20
Quote: Originally Posted by Alternative View Post

No. If God want me he creater me believe and trust on God.
If he doesn't want me I am atheist whole lived time.

God guides whomever He please (i.e. He guides the kind-hearted, the one who helps the weak and does not transgress on their rights, and does not grow arrogant and over-proud over people.)
While He misguides the wrong-doer, the transgressor, the hard-hearted who is lofty or overproud on people.

Quote: Originally Posted by Alternative View Post

If true I became to hell if the God's not wanted the new time it is four or 10th next time.

I could not understand this!
Last edited by Torch light; Dec 17th, 2017 at 02:04 PM..
 
petros
+1
#21
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

There is tin foil in all it's forms available all through the Middle East.

I wonder if these come in bigger than burger size?



A little felt for forehead sweat, alien graphics and good to go.
 
Alternative
#22
Torch - It's about next time we lived.
 
Curious Cdn
-1
#23
Quote: Originally Posted by Alternative View Post

Torch - It's about next time we lived.

There's room on Mars for both of you. I hear that the hotels are quite good, there.
 
Torch light
#24
So all the above points and more are included in the book The Universe and the Quran, but wrong-doers refuse to consider it; and they cannot believe on account of their wrong-doing.

The same concerning the Quran itself: the wrong-doers refuse to believe in it, in spite of its evident truth.

َQuran 17: 99 which means:
(Have they not seen that God Who created the heavens and the earth is Able to create the like of them?

Moreover He has appointed for them a term, of which there is no doubt;

yet the wrong-doers refuse anything but to disbelieve [and deny the truth.]
)

More explanation is in the link:
http://quran-ayat.com/pret/17.htm#a17_99
quran-ayat.com/pret/17.htm#a17_99
 
taxslave
#25
Quote: Originally Posted by Torch light View Post

I did not say that anyone should not ask God; on the contrary all people should ask of God .. and of Him alone in fact ... not from anyone else like the Christ, his mother, the Christian saints, the Jewish sages, the Muslims imams, and others ... because this will in fact be the idolatry contrary to the First Commandment: to worship God alone.

http://www.quran-ayat.com/universe/i...st_Commandment
quran-ayat.com/universe/index.htm#First_Commandment

The atheist and idolater are liars when they claim they do not ask of God .. and if they insist to admit it, they will be obliged to do so in the Next Life.

In the previous few days, I was busy and could not complete the thread.
I was busy in preparing the Quran interpretation for publishing in Arabic, and may be published in the coming days, by God's will.

Gawd is amyth. And yours is a really bad gawd that supports pedophiles.
 
captain morgan
#26
The link does not have the answer to the age-old question: How much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?
 
Alternative
#27
Jew believe is not God it is Moses for Jew??
 
Torch light
#28
Quote: Originally Posted by Alternative View Post

Torch - It's about next time we lived.

It is only one death, then man will go to the Next Life: i.e. the spiritual afterlife where he lives by his soul not by his body.
There will be no return once again to this material life: i.e. no transmigration or re-incarnation.
Some sects like Jews and the Baha'i believe in the re-incarnation, but it is wrong and not correct, with no proof only their wishful desires.

http://www.quran-ayat.com/man/1.htm#...igration_of_so
quran-ayat.com/man/1.htm#No_reincarnation_or_transmigration_of_so
 
Alternative
#29
Quote: Originally Posted by Torch light View Post

It is only one death, then man will go to the Next Life: i.e. the spiritual afterlife where he lives by his soul not by his body.
There will be no return once again to this material life: i.e. no transmigration or re-incarnation.
Some sects like Jews and the Baha'i believe in the re-incarnation, but it is wrong and not correct, with no proof only their wishful desires.

http://www.quran-ayat.com/man/1.htm#...igration_of_so
quran-ayat.com/man/1.htm#No_reincarnation_or_transmigration_of_so

According Hinduism are they's believe next life. According you are Allah you God.
 
Torch light
#30
In addition
http://www.quran-ayat.com/man/1.htm#...d_bodies_and_f
quran-ayat.com/man/1.htm#There_is_no_revival_of_dead_bodies_and_f
 

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