Is Canada ready for the coming electric vehicle revolution?


JLM
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#1321
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

... hence that stinking big auto assembly complex right in the middle of sleepy, old Oakville.


Joe Clark is pushing 80 years old, there was only one guy who actually accomplished a "second coming" and he was considerably younger than 80!
 
spilledthebeer
#1322
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

... hence that stinking big auto assembly complex right in the middle of sleepy, old Oakville.






Oh that`s right............................................. .


you just keep on with the completely irrelevant observations...................................... ...


there is a stinking big auto plant in Aliston Ont as well.............................................


making Honda cars.............................................. .............


and a Chrysler plant in Streetsville Ont............................................... .....


and there WAS a GM plant in Oshawa................................


but GM makes rather crappy vehicles.......................................... ............


and as it turns out............................................... ................


NOT EVEN AN OUTRIGHT GIFT of several billion dollars...........................................


of our tax money could save GM Oshawa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


There IS A MORAL in there for LIE-berals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


AND FOR silly old RED Tories as well!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


regarding the FATE of Tesla.............................................


with its high costs........................................


and its products suffering from SHORT RANGE...................................


and awkward refueling issues...........................................


and....................................


MOST IMPORTANT OF ALL............................................... .........


Tesla batteries BECOME VIRTUALLY USELESS by the time they are ten years old!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !


Considering that THE AVERAGE AGE of a gas powered car on Cdn roads is ELEVEN YEARS OLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


We can SEE THE PROOF that ONLY an elite FEW Cdns will bother screwing around............................................ ...


with an electric TOY car that will be dead and useless while the gas car is going strong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



The average Cdn simply DOES NOT HAVE the kind of cash needed to get into an electric TOY car....................................


that has NO MORE THAN HALF to TWO THIRDS of the service life of a gas powered car.......................................


AND STILL COSTS 25 to 50 percent MORE .................................................. ...


even with assorted LIE-beral subsidies applied!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!


If there is any justice in Canada..............................


then the word Tesla will pass into Cdn slang!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!


AS in : "its a Tesla"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!


Meaning any costly fiscal mistake!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!


Of the sort LIE-berals PREFER to support!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Or we could use the word another way................................


and suggest that anybody who thinks Toronto Maple Leafs.........................................


will win a Stanley Cup this year.............................................. ..


is "Tesla minded"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!


Cause IT AINT HAPPENING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And you have to be crazy.....................................


or "tesla minded" to assume Leafs will succeed this time around!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Maybe the Leafs could get Tesla to sponsor them????????????????????????
 
spilledthebeer
#1323
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

Joe Clark is pushing 80 years old, there was only one guy who actually accomplished a "second coming" and he was considerably younger than 80!




Yeah.........................................


but for the other guy.....................................


age was just a number!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
JLM
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#1324
Quote: Originally Posted by spilledthebeer View Post

Oh that`s right............................................. .


you just keep on with the completely irrelevant observations...................................... ...


there is a stinking big auto plant in Aliston Ont as well.............................................


making Honda cars.............................................. .............


and a Chrysler plant in Streetsville Ont............................................... .....


and there WAS a GM plant in Oshawa................................


but GM makes rather crappy vehicles.......................................... ............


As long as those "big stinking auto plants" are paying wages it's probably not a bad idea to give them a pass!
 
spilledthebeer
#1325
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

As long as those "big stinking auto plants" are paying wages it's probably not a bad idea to give them a pass!




WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!


BIG TIME WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Your thinking explains in GRAPHIC DETAIL......................................


why Joe Clark............................................. .......
WHO??????????????????????????????????


And his followers - muddled thinkers like you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Have been forgotten by history!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Every penny EXTORTED by LIE-berals............................................



and by Red Tory Donkeys........................................... ...........


and given to General Motors................................


or Bombardier........................................ ........


or Lavalin..........................................


or to Loblaws for those infamous freezers.......................................... ....


means YOU ARE CRIPPLING ANOTHER OTHER Biz...............................................


that had the guts and brains to make products people actually WANTED.....................................



and yet we are crippling the most successful groups with those idiot taxes...........................................


to SUPPORT A PACK OF HOGS...........................................


so that LIE-berals can BUY ENOUGH VOTES..........................................


to be able to continue their campaign of WASTE AND EXTRAVAGANCE.....................................


that we cannot afford and are well on our way to repudiating......................................


in the October election!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!
 
Hoid
#1326
https://electrek.co/2019/09/02/fordl...0-market-2022/

you can smell the fear

Ford announces it will bring an all-electric F150 to market "before 2022".

Ford was originally going to concentrate on hybrids but the auto sector is changing so rapidly those plans are gone.

There will be 3 all electric pickups on the road before Ford gets one, and that is a sector they simply cannot afford to get beaten up in.

It remains to be seen if legacy makers can and will survive the e tsunami.

They are so change resistant that I sort of doubt they are going to be able to survive in the new world.
 
Gilgamesh
#1327
Quote: Originally Posted by Bar Sinister View Post

Believe it or not I have great faith in the free enterprise system; at least so far a fulling a demand is concerned. Once there are enough electric vehicles I suspect that the network of gas stations will install charging systems. There are thousands of service stations across Canada and I suspect that most of them would be happy to make a little extra money by installing charging systems.

And exactly were do you expect these charging stations to be getting their electrons from?
3/4 of our half educated and educationally brainwashed voters think that nukes are evil and that windpower can generate the power needed. ROFL
 
Gilgamesh
#1328
Maybe if or when Geez returns in his kosher interstellar mother ship, he will gift us with a functioning fusion power source or possibly a zero-point energy source.

Or maybe not!
 
Hoid
#1329
The bicycle industry is going electric quickly.

5 years ago there were very few e bikes. Even 2 years ago they were rare.

This year I see as many e bike as traditional bikes.
 
MHz
#1330
Quote: Originally Posted by Gilgamesh View Post

Maybe if or when Geez returns in his kosher interstellar mother ship, he will gift us with a functioning fusion power source or possibly a zero-point energy source.

Or maybe not!

He kills 2/3 of all people on the planet as His first move. You only have to not be part of that group. Simple, right??
 
MHz
#1331
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

The bicycle industry is going electric quickly.

5 years ago there were very few e bikes. Even 2 years ago they were rare.

This year I see as many e bike as traditional bikes.

How much of that has to do with vehicles being expensive, insurance being expensive and more and more people making a lot less money?
 
spilledthebeer
#1332
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

https://electrek.co/2019/09/02/fordl...0-market-2022/

you can smell the fear

Ford announces it will bring an all-electric F150 to market "before 2022".

Ford was originally going to concentrate on hybrids but the auto sector is changing so rapidly those plans are gone.

There will be 3 all electric pickups on the road before Ford gets one, and that is a sector they simply cannot afford to get beaten up in.

It remains to be seen if legacy makers can and will survive the e tsunami.

They are so change resistant that I sort of doubt they are going to be able to survive in the new world.








HemerHOID "SMELLS FEAR"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!


What he really means is.......................................


that HE SMELLS LIKE FEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Because if LIE-berals stop throwing gravy at companies...........................


that are PLAYING with electric TOY vehicles...............................


then the ENTIRE INDUSTRY WILL DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!


HemerHOID quietly IGNORES the fact that Tesla HAS YET TO MAKE A PROFIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


IN SIXTEEN YEARS of operation...............................


Tesla HAS YET to break even!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The continued existence of Tesla IS A TRIUMPH..................................


of SALESMANSHIP...................................... ......


OVER ENGINEERING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!


With that engineering FAILING to overcome the short life span of Lithium batteries..............................


with their RAPID reduction of already limited range.....................................


as the batteries age!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals are obsessed with electric simply because of the GRAVY they expect to GRAB...........................


if only they can find a way to FORCE US.......................................


to accept their COSTLY ELECTRIC TOYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Hoid
#1333
What is driving the e bike revolution?

Baby boomers.

People who have tons of money and would love to ride a bike but they just don't have the physical capacity anymore.

E bikes make cycling accessible to everyone.
 
Curious Cdn
#1334
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

What is driving the e bike revolution?
Baby boomers.
People who have tons of money and would love to ride a bike but they just don't have the physical capacity anymore.
E bikes make cycling accessible to everyone.

Baby Boomers gotta have banana seats and "Easy Rider" handle bars on them.
 
DaSleeper
+1
#1335
This is a baby boomer bicycle seat...................


 
MHz
#1336
They also work on e-bikes so you don't slide off the back when you hit the throttle. They also eliminate the need to grip the bars tight all the time.
 
Hoid
-1
#1337
https://arstechnica.com/cars/2019/09...limate-change/

Amazon places an order for 100,000 electric trucks from Rivian, who they have already invested in.

Whether Canada is ready or not electric vehicles are coming
 
Curious Cdn
#1338
Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeper View Post

This is a baby boomer bicycle seat...................

No seat belt?

What are ya, some sort of anarchist?
 
MHz
#1339
You want to be 'thrown clear' in a big crash. Like before seatbelts, . . . doh
 
MARKRONSON
#1340
Most cars can be charged at home from a standard 120-volt outlet, but a full charge can take from 12 to 16 hours.
 
JLM
#1341
Are electric vehicles going to improve anything? I'd be quite surprised!
 
spilledthebeer
#1342
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

What is driving the e bike revolution?

Baby boomers.

People who have tons of money and would love to ride a bike but they just don't have the physical capacity anymore.

E bikes make cycling accessible to everyone.




Oh hemerHOID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!


Did you get into the supply of LSD that MHz has been hoarding????????????????????????


You ARE WAY OUT THERE TODAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!


There are a bunch of Harleys - you know- those GAS POWERED BIKES...................................


on my street - ALL OWNED by guys OVER 60!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And the one guy can barely walk now..............................


thanks to his early football career and knee damage!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



And there is ONE LONE electric toy bike on the street - JUST PURCHASED......................................... .....


by a 16 year old kid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!


If you get any more clueless you will not be able..................


to find your own ass....................................


with BOTH HANDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Hoid
#1343
Tesla drives coast to coast in 48 hours 10 minutes
 
Hoid
#1344


McDonalds wants to become the biggest Ev recharging spot in Europe

I believe Walmart will become the biggest in North America
 
Curious Cdn
#1345
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post


McDonalds wants to become the biggest Ev recharging spot in Europe
I believe Walmart will become the biggest in North America

All those PROOOOGS!

Turn it over to the Private Sector instead. They'll fix those Liberal electricity guys in Ontario.
 
MHz
#1346
Quote: Originally Posted by MARKRONSON View Post

Most cars can be charged at home from a standard 120-volt outlet, but a full charge can take from 12 to 16 hours.

That can be reduced as better chargers and batteries are made available. 90% charge in a few hours and 100% on 6 hours. Charge at wotk or at the mall or wherever. If you can charge a phone without plugging it in you can do the same with a car,
 
Hoid
#1347
‘They Don’t Need Us Anymore’: Auto Workers Fear Electric Unrest
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/don-t...090000599.html

(Bloomberg) -- The milkman went missing thanks to the rise of refrigerators. Switchboard operators were done in by the dawn of direct dialing. And in the car industry, auto workers are deathly afraid the engine assembler will give way to battery builders.

Dread over the prospect that plug-in cars -- which have fewer parts and require less labor to build -- will doom auto jobs helped spark the first United Auto Workers strike against General Motors Co. in over a decade. Ford Motor Co. and Fiat Chrysler Automobiles NV, which are rolling their own battery-powered models to market in the coming years, could face a similar fate if they’re unable to quell the UAW’s concerns that widespread adoption of EVs endangers the employment of 35,000 union members.

“There’s a potential for our jobs to be gone -- they don’t need us anymore,” said Tim Walbolt, president of the UAW local representing workers at a Fiat Chrysler transmission components plant near Toledo, Ohio. “It scares us.”

For all the buzz generated by Tesla Inc., the EV era is still in its infancy, with zero-emission autos having reached just 2% of global production. GM has extended the UAW an offer to get in on the ground floor, pitching a new battery plant staffed by dues-paying union members in an Ohio town jarred by job loss. But the overture came with a catch: GM wants to pay the workers less, and the facility is unlikely to need as many staff as an engine or transmission factory would.

A recent study of electric-vehicle production in Europe by consultant AlixPartners found that it took 40% fewer hours to assemble an electric motor and battery than a traditional internal-combustion engine and transmission.

“It’s a bad news story from a labor perspective,” said Mark Wakefield, the head of AlixPartners’s automotive practice. “You would just fundamentally need less people.”

Perversely, GM also arguably has uncertainty on its side at the bargaining table. It’s going to want concessions to cushion itself against the risk that consumer adoption of electric autos remains slow. The carmaker isn’t fully utilizing the factory that builds the Chevrolet Bolt EV north of Detroit, and tepid demand for the plug-in hybrid Chevy Volt put the future of the factory that assembles it in nearby Hamtramck in doubt.

Collision Course

The collision with carmakers over electrification is one the UAW saw coming.

“Electric, to me, is where the real risk is to our membership,” Jennifer Kelly, the union’s research director, said during a collective-bargaining conference in Detroit earlier this year.

It’s almost certain to carry over from the UAW’s talks with GM to negotiations with Detroit’s other automakers. Ford has estimated electric cars will require 30% fewer hours of labor per vehicle and 50% less factory floor space.

“Rationalization of the powertrain portfolio is certainly a huge opportunity for all of us as we start this transition,” Joe Hinrichs, Ford’s automotive president, told investors on an earnings call in April.

Even Fiat Chrysler, a laggard with regard to electrification, has stoked fear at union halls linked to internal-combustion components plants, where rumors are flying that the company plans to outsource work to lower-paying suppliers.

“We cannot help but feel like the left behind stepchildren of the UAW,” Mike Booth, the president of the union’s local in Marysville, Michigan, wrote in a letter to the labor group’s Chrysler council last month. He and other UAW leaders fear that German mega-supplier ZF Friedrichshafen AG, which took over operation of a Chrysler axle plant in 2008, will take work away from the automaker’s machining facility near Toledo and a transmission and castings complex in Kokomo, Indiana.

A Fiat Chrysler spokeswoman categorically denied that another company is seeking to take work from the Toledo or Kokomo operations and called them critical to the automaker’s business. ZF will continue to work with the UAW in Marysville, and an arrangement in which Fiat Chrysler licenses technology from the supplier in Kokomo may be creating some confusion, a spokesman said. He declined to comment on Toledo.

‘Shrinking Bubble’

In August, GM shut down a transmission plant outside Detroit, affecting more than 260 workers as part of a larger restructuring. That may foreshadow other closures as EV production ramps up. The supply chain is where the job risk is greatest, especially for workers employed making engines, transmissions and sub-components that aren’t needed in EVs.
 
spilledthebeer
#1348
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post



McDonalds wants to become the biggest Ev recharging spot in Europe

I believe Walmart will become the biggest in North America






POOR STUPID hemerHOID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !


Still peddling his electric TOYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Better sell them quick hemerHOID before public opinion turns FULLY against them.........................


because of how battery life and range are SERIOUSLY COMPROMISED.........................


a the TOY AGES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!








Here is an article exposing the failure of LIE-beral policy!! With some comments of my own in brackets):

The B.C. carbon tax shows us why a national one is a bad idea

By Kris Sims, B.C. Director of Cdn Taxpayers Federartion.

Special to Postmedia Network

Published: September 27, 2019, Updated: September 27, 2019 6:42 PM EDT

Filed Under: Toronto SUN,

Politicians are trying to sell a national carbon tax to Canadians this election, but we shouldn’t buy it.

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is pointing to B.C. as a template for a national carbon tax. But be warned: the B.C. carbon tax is not reducing greenhouse gas emissions and it’s filling up government coffers with taxpayers’ money. It’s a tax grab that is not helping the environment.

(IN other news- the number of cars registered in B.C. is going steadily UP!! This fact demonstrates the economic pressures of our gig economy with its myriad McJobs that all offer erratic schedules and frequent call ins at short notice!! Meaning that electric TOY cars with their LENGTHY refueling time will NOT WORK for our modern schedules!!!!!!!!!)

(LIE-berals are IGNORING the reality that a worker who cannot show up SWIFTLY when called in - because public transit is SLOW - will be replaced - by another worker with a CAR who CAN travel MORE SWIFTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

B.C.’s emissions have gone up 2.4% over the last three years and have increased in five of the last seven years, according to the B.C. government’s own data released this month. In 2017 — the most recent data year — GHG emissions are listed at 64.4 million tonnes, up from 63.6 million tonnes in 2016.

(LIE-berals tell us that driving is a privilege - but it is evolving into an economic necessity for many Cdns due to all the scheduling conflicts with work, with day care and with schooling!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(In addition - LIE-berals demand we buy their electric TOY cars - and we are ORDERED NOT to ask questions about the long term service life of the hugely costly Lithium battery - whose range is cut in HALF by the time it is ten years old- and the AVERAGE AGE of a Cdn car is ELEVEN YEARS - signalling a VERY UNSATISFACTORY service life for electric TOYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(Nor do LIE-berals like it when we discuss the fact that even moderately cold Cdn weather greatly reduces the already UNSATISFACTORY range of electric TOYS!! With the added headache that recharging the electric TOYS is a time consuming biz- UNLESS you have access to specialized equipment!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(The family with a gas car can refuel in 5 minutes- but the electric TOY takes 8 to 16 HOURS to recharge on regular 120 volt house current!! Cumbersome refueling and range issues LIMITS electric TOY use and flexibility on commuter trips - something Cdn workers generally cannot afford !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Politicians tell us that we are paying the carbon tax because it will reduce emissions but the government’s own records show that’s not happening. What is the point of paying an ever increasing carbon tax when it doesn’t work?

(Even MORE ABSURD is the LIE-beral assertion that we will get MORE IN REBATES than we paid into the carbon tax SCAM!! LIE-berals ARE PRETENDING they can create FREE MONEY out of thin air!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(So why charge the carbon tax SCAM at all if all the money is being rebated?? UNLESS of course the LIE-beral assurance of free money IS A STRETCH GOAL and the FIX IS IN!! We need only think of Wynne-bag LIE-berals offering us a 15 percent reduction in auto insurance- that came with a FIFTY PERCENT REDUCTION in benefits for people injured in crashes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(Or we could discuss the Wynne-bag LIE-beral drug plan that was only half funded and has resulted in nice profits for insurance companies as they denied drug benefits to sick customers - and sent them to seek aid from govt- which also DENIED the aid - because the ill people HAD INSURANCE - leaving sick people out in the cold with NOTHING from either source!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

In 2018, the provincial government took in $1.7 billion from B.C. taxpayers through the carbon tax, and it’s planning on taking $2.2 billion from taxpayers by the year 2021, when the carbon tax is jacked up to $50 per tonne.

Politicians also told us that gasoline and diesel vehicle use would drop because of the carbon tax, however the government data again shows that’s not true.

Emissions from gasoline powered cars are up 6.2%, pickup truck emissions are up 18.7%, and heavy duty gasoline truck emissions are up 10.4% over the last three years. When it comes to diesel use, there was a large 47.8% jump in emissions from light-duty diesel pickup trucks over the past three years.

Let’s look at how much this carbon tax costs us for everyday life.

At the pumps, the carbon tax costs B.C. drivers about $7 extra to fill their minivans, $11 extra for their pickup trucks, and $19 extra for their diesel super duty pickups.

If a commuter family has a sedan and a pick up truck and fills up once a week, they pay more than $900 extra per year just to get to work and take the kids around.

For a tractor trailer truck – the ones that deliver groceries to grocery stores — filling just one of those diesel tanks costs an extra $48 in carbon taxes. This adds to the cost of everything.

(WE should understand that the carbon tax SCAM is a tax GRAB ON EVERY- THING!! When delivery costs go up - so do retail prices - AND SO DO GOVT SALES TAXES on the retail items!! LIE-berals have created new tax grabs from MULTIPLE SOURCES AND economic levels as a result of higher sales taxes that are being DRIVEN by the carbon SCAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

When the carbon tax was first foisted upon British Columbians in 2008, we were told that the tax would reduce greenhouse gas emissions, stop at $30 per tonne, and it would be “revenue neutral” because other tax cuts would offset the carbon tax.

Today, none of claims are true. The carbon tax has been hiked up to $40 per tonne. Politicians have dropped the malarkey moniker of “revenue neutral” altogether and the government is just keeping the extra revenue instead of even pretending to offset the carbon tax with other tax cuts. On top of it all, GHG emissions are going up, not down.

(The LIE-beral carbon SCAM is a record breaking gravy grab that only cleans cash from wallets and leaves the dirt in the air!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

The Sierra Club of Canada calls B.C.’s emissions approach a “failure” and it says politicians have been full of “noble rhetoric.”

(Ah - “noble rhetoric” - this is LIE-beral speak meaning full of SH+T!!!!!!!!!!!!)

As Canadians consider carbon taxes, they need to look at the experience in B.C. where this all started. It only makes people here poorer while emissions continue to rise. Don’t fall for it.

(Our LIE-berals modeled their carbon tax SCAM on the European model which as been in place now for over 15 years and it is a PROVEN FAILURE!! The European tax SCAM is riven with corruption, false reporting of emissions, stock market fakery as phoney carbon credits are sold for real money and general fraud and collusion as companies seek ways to get around the govt laws that are proven job killers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(The Volkswagen Diesel emissions scandal is a direct result of the MASSIVE CONFLICT between the needs of buyers and the selfish wishes of LIE-berals!!!!)

(Spain and Germany are the two countries that were most excited about LIE-beal style green energy and both countries have now REDUCED their commitment to the mouldy green because for every green job created - there are 2.5 old style jobs KILLED OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(LIE-beral Green policy is both costly and inefficient!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(LIE-berals know this which is why they keep talking about helping oil workers and others “transition” to a greener economy!! Too bad too many Cdn workers have heard this sort of LIE-beral CRAP BEFORE!! In 2008, Ontari-owe LIE-beral premier Dalton McGinty set up a $100 million dollar fund to “retrain” laid off auto workers and then attached SO MANY STRINGS to that aid that only 5 percent of the aid was ever used!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(LIE-berals are now being DAMNED - and disbelieved- BECAUSE OF THEIR OWN DISMAL AND DECEITFUL RECORD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
 
JLM
-1
#1349
What aspects of it were you thinking of?
 
spilledthebeer
+1
#1350
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

What aspects of it were you thinking of?




Well.........................................


A LOT OF US are worried about the COST of LIE-beral electric TOY cars!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And lot of us are worried about the DRASTIC REDUCTION IN RANGE............................................. ...



suffered by LIE-beral electric TOY cars in even moderately cold weather!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And a lot of us are worried about the fact that a Lithium battery ROTS OUT.................................


and becomes pretty much USELESS once it is ten years old!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And a lot of us are worroed about the service life................


of LIE-beral electric TOYS- in view of the FACT that the



averge gas car on the road is ELEVEN YEARS OLD.............


which makes electric TOYS that are near DEAD AT TEN



YEARS - LOK LIKE A BAD BARGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



And a lot of us are worried by the RISK OF FIRE...................................


that a rusted or cracked Lithium battery case represents!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


After all we do KNOW that mistakes and car accidents DO HAPPEN from time to time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



And some of us are worried that LIE-berals have plans to PRICE GOUGE US..................................


on the cost of electricity SO RELENTLESSLY...................................... ...


that LIE-beral electricity suppliers will make the average oil company CEO...........................................


look like a soft hearted Philanthropist!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And a lot of us are generally worried that OUR NEEDS...................................


are so much AT ODDS with LIE-beral wishes and GREED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!