It's Time to Upgrade Free Speech to Fair Speech


10larry
#31
Free speech/free expression do not abide pc, no matter the reason, resources as in spain, nato grab as in crimea or sexism as in calif the voice of huddled masses via referendum must be tempered for the preservation of status quo.
If pc is to dominate pesky popular opinion(s) need to be either massaged or negated, free speech is way too democratic a process for political practitioners to navigate, massaged or fair speech does not challenge their diplomatic skills.

Catalonia parliament approves independence referendum - BBC News
 
Tecumsehsbones
+1
#32
Quote: Originally Posted by 10larry View Post

Free speech/free expression do not abide pc, no matter the reason, resources as in spain, nato grab as in crimea or sexism as in calif the voice of huddled masses via referendum must be tempered for the preservation of status quo.
If pc is to dominate pesky popular opinion(s) need to be either massaged or negated, free speech is way too democratic a process for political practitioners to navigate, massaged or fair speech does not challenge their diplomatic skills.

Catalonia parliament approves independence referendum - BBC News

One. . . more. . . time.

Free speech protects you from punishment of your speech by the government. When you talk like a moronic jerk, and somebody calls you a moronic jerk, that's that person exercising her freedom of speech. I understand that you want to be able to say whatever vile thing pops into your head and prevent anybody else from speaking freely against it, but that ain't the way it works.
 
mentalfloss
-1
#33
I'll take Colpy's silence as acknowledgement of his acceptance of a Sharia law rally.

He'll be there handing out guns.

For free speech.
 
TenPenny
+1
#34
Quote: Originally Posted by mentalfloss View Post

I'll take Colpy's silence as acknowledgement of his acceptance of a Sharia law rally.



I'll take your post as proof that you're a racist who hates muslims.
 
mentalfloss
#35
Well you'd be wrong but that's fine.
 
10larry
#36
Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

One. . . more. . . time.

Free speech protects you from punishment of your speech by the government. When you talk like a moronic jerk, and somebody calls you a moronic jerk, that's that person exercising her freedom of speech. I understand that you want to be able to say whatever vile thing pops into your head and prevent anybody else from speaking freely against it, but that ain't the way it works.

If something/anything is punishable by bureaucrats it cannot be deemed as free.
 
PoliticalNick
Free Thinker
#37
Quote: Originally Posted by mentalfloss View Post

I'll take Colpy's silence as acknowledgement of his acceptance of a Sharia law rally.

He'll be there handing out guns.

I'll take his silence as he is probably at work...something you know nothing about there Mentalnazi!

That said if you support free speech then you support the right for people to hold a rally for sharia law. I don't have to agree with what you say but I will vehemently defend your right to say it. That's a Libertarian view and real free speech, not this 'liberal' (LOL) restrictive view where you only have a right to say what I approve of.
 
mentalfloss
#38
Yes, I already recognize the stupidity of libertarians.

They would rather propagate racism to the detriment of all rather than make one small sacrifice that would benefit everyone.

Is it any surprise that their American party leader didn't know what the fukk Aleppo was?
 
Tecumsehsbones
#39
Quote: Originally Posted by 10larry View Post

If something/anything is punishable by bureaucrats it cannot be deemed as free.

That is true, and I know in Canadastan you have rules and laws that would be unConstitutional in the States. However, most "PC" is social pressure, not government action.

Boy, it really hurts your feels to not be able to use racial, sexual, and disability slurs without having people thinking and saying you're an a**hole, don't it? Not sure I've seen many people so worked up about it.

Juice box?
 
PoliticalNick
Free Thinker
#40
Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

That is true, and I know in Canadastan you have rules and laws that would be unConstitutional in the States. However, most "PC" is social pressure, not government action.

Boy, it really hurts your feels to not be able to use racial, sexual, and disability slurs without having people thinking and saying you're an a**hole, don't it? Not sure I've seen many people so worked up about it.

Juice box?

Not sure where you get the idea we can't use slurs....I do all the time ya fukkin wagon burner....LOL

Quote: Originally Posted by mentalfloss View Post

Yes, I already recognize the stupidity of libertarians.

They would rather propagate racism to the detriment of all rather than make one small sacrifice that would benefit everyone.

Is it any surprise that their American party leader didn't know what the fukk Aleppo was?

Yes, yes, we all know you want an authoritarian fascist regime where you are the king (more likely a queen) and everyone shares your beliefs and views. Too bad that will never happen. Poor Mentalnazi!
 
DaSleeper
+2
#41
Quote: Originally Posted by PoliticalNick View Post

Not sure where you get the idea we can't use slurs....I do all the time ya fukkin wagon burner....LOL

Easy on that southern boy, or he'll post a picture of a Canadian firing squad.....




 
mentalfloss
#42
Quote: Originally Posted by PoliticalNick View Post

Yes, yes, we all know you want an authoritarian fascist regime where you are the king (more likely a queen) and everyone shares your beliefs and views. Too bad that will never happen. Poor Mentalnazi!

We've already denied permits for Nazi rallies so are you saying we currently live in an authoritarian fascist regime?
 
PoliticalNick
Free Thinker
#43
Quote: Originally Posted by mentalfloss View Post

Are you saying we currently live in an authoritarian fascist regime?

Yes I am. I'm also saying you would like to see it even more authoritarian and fascist especially if you or Justine were the emperor. You are merely another version of a dictator with low self-esteem who has convinced themself they are doing whats best for everyone by killing any free thought or action.
 
mentalfloss
#44
Quote: Originally Posted by PoliticalNick View Post

Yes I am.

Then you're an idiot.
 
PoliticalNick
Free Thinker
+3
#45
Quote: Originally Posted by mentalfloss View Post

Then you're an idiot.

LOL...says the fascist Mentalnazi! Like your deranged opinion matters to anyone....LOL!
 
mentalfloss
#46
Free speech.

CBC: The Rise of White Discrimination Q&A
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MHz
#47
Trade them both for some straight talk quite frankly.
 
Angstrom
No Party Affiliation
#48
Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeper View Post

Yep.....

Hopefully Slavery will be abolished one day
 
Tecumsehsbones
+1
#49
Quote: Originally Posted by PoliticalNick View Post

Not sure where you get the idea we can't use slurs....I do all the time ya fukkin wagon burner....LOL

You're invited to our next big powwow. You can be the first contestant in a little game of skill we call the gantlet.
 
Angstrom
No Party Affiliation
#50
Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

You're invited to our next big powwow. You can be the first contestant in a little game of skill we call the gantlet.

Hopefully we can save you from abject slavery from the white peoples.
 
MHz
+2
#51
Quote: Originally Posted by Angstrom View Post

Yep.....

Hopefully Slavery will be abolished one day

As an owner I have to assume you mean 'one day' after another 100 years or so of the same.
 
Vbeacher
+3
#52
Quote: Originally Posted by mentalfloss View Post

Yes, it's called democracy.

We are being held back by Nazis who are pretending that free speech should allow them to hold discriminatory rallies and we have the power to tell them we won't accept that.

Held back in what way? There is less racism in both Canada and the United States than at any time in our history. The KKK used to have 11 million members. Now it's down to about 7,000. There are, at best, a few hundred organized Nazis. Their numbers aren't growing.


Quote:

Context matters here and that context deals with the propagation of discrimination.

Quite aside from the logical issues involved, such as what opinions gets banned due to who hates them (hint, yours are hated by a LOT of people) there is the evidence of what this sort of thing accomplishes.

Nothing, basically. The French have such laws, as do the British and Germans. Has it made racism go away? Nope. Has it led to peace and harmony? Nope. There are race riots in the UK and France, and groups of violent Nazis setting fire to refugee hostels in Germany. There is more racial violence and hatred between races and religions there than there is HERE.
 
Colpy
Conservative
+2
#53
Quote: Originally Posted by mentalfloss View Post

We've already denied permits for Nazi rallies so are you saying we currently live in an authoritarian fascist regime?

Then they should have met without a permit.

The right exists, and it does not exist at the whim of the state.

When the state denies a permit on the grounds of "I don't like your political views" they are denying your rights.

Tell me, how would you feel if permits were denied on Al Quds Da?

Arguably, Islam is worse than Naziism.
 
petros
+1
#54
That would be Leftist blasphemy.
 
Tecumsehsbones
#55
Quote: Originally Posted by Angstrom View Post

Hopefully we can save you from abject slavery from the white peoples.

Too late to save you. I calculate you'll never get your testicles back. Oh, well, they couldn't have meant much to you.

Quote: Originally Posted by Colpy View Post

Arguably, Islam is worse than Naziism.

I'll argue it with you later, to avoid going off track here.
 
mentalfloss
#56
Quote: Originally Posted by Colpy View Post

Then they should have met without a permit.

The right exists, and it does not exist at the whim of the state.

Except that we already deny permits on the basis of promoting terrorism - for which you do not have a problem. And let's not forget that what your friend did in Charlottesville has been deemed a terrorist act, so why does he get a pass?

Quote: Originally Posted by Colpy View Post

Tell me, how would you feel if permits were denied on Al Quds Da

Unlike you, I'm logically consistent in my views so I obviously wouldn't support a rally promoting Extremist Islamic Terrorism, just as I wouldn't support a rally that promotes Nazism.

You know why?



Because I'm not a Nazi.
 
petros
#57
Are you having comprehension issues again?
 
PoliticalNick
Free Thinker
+1
#58
Quote: Originally Posted by mentalfloss View Post

Because I'm not a Nazi.

But you are a socialist fascist which is also the doctrine of Nazis...go figure!
 
mentalfloss
#59
Quote: Originally Posted by PoliticalNick View Post

But you are a socialist fascist which is also the doctrine of Nazis...go figure!

I support capitalism you idiot.
 
petros
#60
You do?
 

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