The Final Frontier


Tecumsehsbones
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#1  Top Rated Post
The astronauts splashed down safely in the Gulf of Mexico and have been recovered.

Mission accomplished.
 
Hoid
#2
Great to see a new era in space exploration unfolding.
 
Jinentonix
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Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

Great to see a new era in space exploration unfolding.

Really? Even though SpaceX uses fossil fuels for their rockets?
 
IdRatherBeSkiing
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Quote: Originally Posted by Jinentonix View Post

Really? Even though SpaceX uses fossil fuels for their rockets?


I'm waiting for the electric rockets to hit the market to be excited.
 
Tecumsehsbones
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Quote: Originally Posted by Jinentonix View Post

Really? Even though SpaceX uses fossil fuels for their rockets?

Thanks for f*cking up a tribute to the human spirit of exploration and achievement.

This is why we can't have nice things.
 
captain morgan
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Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

The astronauts splashed down safely in the Gulf of Mexico and have been recovered.

Mission accomplished.


Buzz Aldren and many others accomplished this mission decades ago
 
Jinentonix
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Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

Thanks for f*cking up a tribute to the human spirit of exploration and achievement.

This is why we can't have nice things.

Sorry dude but I was already chuckling about it when I heard the astronauts' names were Bob and Doug.








 
Tecumsehsbones
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#8
This is a huge step forward.

This was the first time a private company put humans in space. It's also the first time in 45 years Americans have gone into space without buying a ticket on a Russian rocket.

The main competitors for this were Boeing and SpaceX. That the winner was a new company in the space game, and not an old-line defense contractor grown fat on government handouts was a big win for capitalist initiative.

It's a very significant step in the overall plan for private industry to take over the "space trucking" sector of the space economy, hauling people and stuff to LEO and back, and for NASA to focus on the deep-exploration stuff: the Moon and Mars, which can only be done by governments because the payout is non-obvious and a long way off.

Until this, we were, frankly, losing to the Russians and the Chinese. Suddenly we're way ahead in technology and very soon in capability.

So, even if you're too old and cynical to feel the wonder you felt back during the great age of space, if all you can do is carp, bellyache, exercise your extremely limited wit, and turn this into a way to attack "the other side," and you disapprove of advances in American space power, a challenge to Russian and Chinese dominance of space, a huge victory for capitalism and the private, corporate model, the return of NASA to its original mission, and a big "win" in a year when we desperately need a win, all I can say is they got one damn strange kind of "conservative" in Canada. Anti-Western, anti-capitalism, anti-private enterprise, anti-American, pro-Russia, pro-China.

Y'all should be real proud of yourselves.
 
Jinentonix
+2
#9
Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

This is a huge step forward.

This was the first time a private company put humans in space. It's also the first time in 45 years Americans have gone into space without buying a ticket on a Russian rocket.

The main competitors for this were Boeing and SpaceX. That the winner was a new company in the space game, and not an old-line defense contractor grown fat on government handouts was a big win for capitalist initiative.

It's a very significant step in the overall plan for private industry to take over the "space trucking" sector of the space economy, hauling people and stuff to LEO and back, and for NASA to focus on the deep-exploration stuff: the Moon and Mars, which can only be done by governments because the payout is non-obvious and a long way off.

Until this, we were, frankly, losing to the Russians and the Chinese. Suddenly we're way ahead in technology and very soon in capability.

So, even if you're too old and cynical to feel the wonder you felt back during the great age of space, if all you can do is carp, bellyache, exercise your extremely limited wit, and turn this into a way to attack "the other side," and you disapprove of advances in American space power, a challenge to Russian and Chinese dominance of space, a huge victory for capitalism and the private, corporate model, the return of NASA to its original mission, and a big "win" in a year when we desperately need a win, all I can say is they got one damn strange kind of "conservative" in Canada. Anti-Western, anti-capitalism, anti-private enterprise, anti-American, pro-Russia, pro-China.

Y'all should be real proud of yourselves.

Wow dude, that's a lot of jingoistic bullshit for a response to an anti-oil idiot. "Oil is evil. Oil is nasty. Oil is White supremacy. Yay Tesla for creating a kerosene powered rocket." Sorry for making fun of some half-wit's cognitive disorder in your super serious space thread.
 
petros
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Quote: Originally Posted by IdRatherBeSkiing View Post

I'm waiting for the electric rockets to hit the market to be excited.

Hoid says we already have electric jets.
 
Tecumsehsbones
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Quote: Originally Posted by Jinentonix View Post

Wow dude, that's a lot of jingoistic bullshit for a response to an anti-oil idiot. "Oil is evil. Oil is nasty. Oil is White supremacy. Yay Tesla for creating a kerosene powered rocket." Sorry for making fun of some half-wit's cognitive disorder in your super serious space thread.

I'm real sorry your Dear Leader's boss took a hit.

Not even slightly surprised you needed lots of guidance to dimly see some of the implications.
 
petros
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#12
Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

This is a huge step forward.
This was the first time a private company put humans in space. It's also the first time in 45 years Americans have gone into space without buying a ticket on a Russian rocket.
The main competitors for this were Boeing and SpaceX. That the winner was a new company in the space game, and not an old-line defense contractor grown fat on government handouts was a big win for capitalist initiative.
It's a very significant step in the overall plan for private industry to take over the "space trucking" sector of the space economy, hauling people and stuff to LEO and back, and for NASA to focus on the deep-exploration stuff: the Moon and Mars, which can only be done by governments because the payout is non-obvious and a long way off.
Until this, we were, frankly, losing to the Russians and the Chinese. Suddenly we're way ahead in technology and very soon in capability.
So, even if you're too old and cynical to feel the wonder you felt back during the great age of space, if all you can do is carp, bellyache, exercise your extremely limited wit, and turn this into a way to attack "the other side," and you disapprove of advances in American space power, a challenge to Russian and Chinese dominance of space, a huge victory for capitalism and the private, corporate model, the return of NASA to its original mission, and a big "win" in a year when we desperately need a win, all I can say is they got one damn strange kind of "conservative" in Canada. Anti-Western, anti-capitalism, anti-private enterprise, anti-American, pro-Russia, pro-China.
Y'all should be real proud of yourselves.

I miss the old NASA before they got in the space logistic industry and blew it on focus.

If SpaceX is equipped for both so be it. They can take the flack when their are failures. If private industry cant figure this out and earn a buck after 60+ years of man in space something is wrong.

NASA and JPL can better focus on exploration vehicles and on board research systems.
 
taxslave
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#13
Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

This is a huge step forward.
This was the first time a private company put humans in space. It's also the first time in 45 years Americans have gone into space without buying a ticket on a Russian rocket.
The main competitors for this were Boeing and SpaceX. That the winner was a new company in the space game, and not an old-line defense contractor grown fat on government handouts was a big win for capitalist initiative.
It's a very significant step in the overall plan for private industry to take over the "space trucking" sector of the space economy, hauling people and stuff to LEO and back, and for NASA to focus on the deep-exploration stuff: the Moon and Mars, which can only be done by governments because the payout is non-obvious and a long way off.
Until this, we were, frankly, losing to the Russians and the Chinese. Suddenly we're way ahead in technology and very soon in capability.
So, even if you're too old and cynical to feel the wonder you felt back during the great age of space, if all you can do is carp, bellyache, exercise your extremely limited wit, and turn this into a way to attack "the other side," and you disapprove of advances in American space power, a challenge to Russian and Chinese dominance of space, a huge victory for capitalism and the private, corporate model, the return of NASA to its original mission, and a big "win" in a year when we desperately need a win, all I can say is they got one damn strange kind of "conservative" in Canada. Anti-Western, anti-capitalism, anti-private enterprise, anti-American, pro-Russia, pro-China.
Y'all should be real proud of yourselves.

It is about time private companies took over space research. Far better for the taxpayer to buy sapace on a ship to launch satellites as required than have all those people on the payroll.
 
Hoid
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It isn't private industry its Elon Musk.

That's why the Team can't really get behind it.

They are so busy denying that he's leading the evolution of the automobile that they can't spend much time on how he made Boeing look like ameteurs and is leading the evolution of space travel
 
Tecumsehsbones
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Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

It isn't private industry its Elon Musk.
That's why the Team can't really get behind it.

I hadn't considered that.

That level of pettiness is generally strange territory for me.
 
taxslave
+2
#16
Only severely retarded leftys can come up with something like that. The fact that Musk is just the latest in a long line of people that have failed at making a viable electric vehicle over the last 120 years has no bearing on his other ventures. Everyone needs a tax dodge.
 
Jinentonix
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#17
Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

I'm real sorry your Dear Leader's boss took a hit.

Not even slightly surprised you needed lots of guidance to dimly see some of the implications.

Still gonna go with the jingoistic bullshit I see. Rah rah sis boom bah.


1) Science fiction writers had long ago foreseen the day when private corporations would lead the way, if not outright take over space "exploration". This isn't really that big of a deal.



2) We get told loads of bullshit that space exploration is all about humanity. But the reality is it's a scramble as everyone who can is trying to stake whatever claim they can. (science fiction writers also predicted that).



3) Private corporations operate on an expectation of profit, not blowing money on scientific exploration.


4) "NASA can focus on the Moon/Mars". Brilliant. We already know more about both than we do our own planet. Let's spend even more money exploring them.


5) All the talk about colonizing Mars is a goddam joke. A) it's a dead world and B) We haven't even built shit on the Moon yet, but we're gonna try to sprint before we learn walk by taking a crack at Mars. What could possibly go wrong?


Look, if some American private corporation wants to spend billions on space that's their business. I didn't know I was required to get all excited about it without you getting all jingoistic about it.
 
IdRatherBeSkiing
+2
#18
Mars is a currently dead world but at one point I believe it was habitable. Who knows what former life/virus can be re-born if we stimulate it somewhat.


I think the logistics of traveling such a "short" distance will keep us away for at least 50 years.
 
Jinentonix
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Quote: Originally Posted by IdRatherBeSkiing View Post

Mars is a currently dead world but at one point I believe it was habitable. Who knows what former life/virus can be re-born if we stimulate it somewhat.

In a lab maybe. Unless we figure out how to liquify a planet's core and get it spinning again, Mars will always be dead.
 
Tecumsehsbones
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Quote: Originally Posted by Jinentonix View Post

Still gonna go with the jingoistic bullshit I see. Rah rah sis boom bah.
1) Science fiction writers had long ago foreseen the day when private corporations would lead the way, if not outright take over space "exploration". This isn't really that big of a deal.

Wait. . . THAT's your rule? If science fiction predicts something, making it happen in the real world is meaningless?
 
Hoid
#21
Musk posted a video of the rocket being caught by a boat with a large net strung over top of itself with 4 outriggers.

An amazingly simple thing given computer GPS navigation, and something it never occurred to me as a possiblity.

So they actually don't splash down.
 
Jinentonix
+1
#22
Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

Wait. . . THAT's your rule? If science fiction predicts something, making it happen in the real world is meaningless?

I didn't say it was meaningless. I said "big deal". That's the attitude of someone who has been cynically waiting for it to happen. This is actually less of a surprise than the old Star Trek-inspired flip phones.


As I said, private corporations are about making profit. I'm not sure if being one step closer to commoditizing our little corner of this wonderous universe is worthy of celebration.
 
Jinentonix
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#23
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

Musk posted a video of the rocket being caught by a boat with a large net strung over top of itself with 4 outriggers.

Ain't fossil fuels great? They powered the Space X rocket. They powered the boat that picked up the rocket. It's hysterical watching you cheer the burning of massive amounts of kerosene and a good amount of diesel.
 
Jinentonix
+2
#24
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

Musk posted a video of the rocket being caught by a boat with a large net strung over top of itself with 4 outriggers.

An amazingly simple thing given computer GPS navigation, and something it never occurred to me as a possiblity.

Well, not as simple as you might think. Winds/wind gusts, especially higher up can be a big variable. But it is a pretty cool idea.
 
taxslave
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#25
I much prefer landing on a runway. Doesn't require any fuel when they do deadstick landings. Also seems more practical.
 
petros
+1
#26
It's all about the rocks and minerals.


That's what happens when you hand rockets and robots to petrologists and mineralogists.