Parliament makes Canada unstable: PM


Tonington
#1
So, a prorogued Parliament means more instability. If you follow his logic...confidence votes, favoured by Harper, create instability. He's making the case for the opposition parties: Harper creates instability.

Quote:

OTTAWA — Parliament is creating an image of instability for Canada in global markets -- and it isn't a bad thing that it has been suspended until the beginning of March, Prime Minister Stephen Harper suggested on Monday.

In an interview with BNN television, Harper was asked if Canada's reputation as a stable democracy will suffer from his prorogation of Parliament. Harper said there was "zero risk" of that.

In fact, he said it's when Parliament is sitting that Canada's stability comes into question. That's when "the games begin," he said, and his minority Conservative government faces the constant threat of defeat and an election.

"As soon as Parliament comes back, we're in a minority Parliament situation and the first thing that happens is a vote of confidence and there will be votes of confidence and election speculation for every single week after that for the rest of the year," he said.

"That's the kind of instability I think that markets are actually worried about. But you know the government will be well-prepared and I think Canadians want to see us focus on the economy."

"So that's what we're going to be doing."

More here.
 
lone wolf
Free Thinker
#2
This guy is a total nutbar....
 
Tonington
#3
Flanagan flogs Harper.
 
lone wolf
Free Thinker
#4
Methinks the wheels are wobbly on the Harper no-go-cart. This should be good for some dissent within the ranks....
 
Liberalman
Free Thinker
#5
In other countries this type of stunt for shutting down parliment for no valid reason would trigger a civil war and considering that some of the population are from those type of countries, the Conservative government just lit a match for that type of action.

Just when you thought the Conservatives will win a majority another skeleton falls out of their closet
Last edited by Liberalman; Jan 12th, 2010 at 05:37 PM..Reason: ....
 
Spade
Free Thinker
#6
Dear Harper,
Democracy is soooo unstable. There's more than one person making decisions. But, I'm sure you've thought of this!
As always,
Your cousin Spade!
PS
Does "recalibrate" mean "shoot your mouth off again"?
 
Slim Chance
#7
From the Leader-Post: Chretien also prorogued

There are those in the Opposition who say this is undemocratic. However, before the Liberals complain about Parliament being prorogued as undemocratic, may they be reminded that Jean Chretien prorogued Parliament four times during his tenure as prime minister. These occurred on Feb. 5, 1996; Sept. 18, 1999; Sept. 16, 2002; and Nov. 12, 2003.
 
lone wolf
Free Thinker
#8
Prorogued is one thing. Claiming that it creates instability is quite another. That shows a complete disregard for a system he has sworn to serve.
 
Tonington
#9
Quote: Originally Posted by Slim Chance View Post

From the Leader-Post: Chretien also prorogued

There are those in the Opposition who say this is undemocratic. However, before the Liberals complain about Parliament being prorogued as undemocratic, may they be reminded that Jean Chretien prorogued Parliament four times during his tenure as prime minister. These occurred on Feb. 5, 1996; Sept. 18, 1999; Sept. 16, 2002; and Nov. 12, 2003.

Is Chretien the bar that Conservatives are aiming for now? Pretty low standards if you ask me. Go figure.
 
Spade
Free Thinker
#10
Normally, sessions of Parliament are prorogued after the legislation that was mentioned in the Speech from the Throne is introduced, and passed into law. This is not, dear Cousin Slim Chance, what is happening here. The legislation Harper's government introduced dies flaccid and must be reintroduced, from scratch. This prorogation appears to have been done solely to avoid scrutiny.
 
Tonington
#11
By the way, welcome to the forum Slim Chance.
 
countryboy
No Party Affiliation
#12
Well, Question Period seems to bring out a bit of "instability" (if not insanity), so at least that goes away for a little while...
 
petros
#13
Do you put sour cream on parliament perogies?
 
countryboy
No Party Affiliation
#14
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

Do you put sour cream on parliament perogies?

I think it starts out as fresh, sweet cream, but - like many things - by the time it gets finished running the gauntlet of parliamentary "debate", committee work, and a few public scrums, it ends up being soured by the whole experience.
 
petros
#15
Quote: Originally Posted by countryboy View Post

I think it starts out as fresh, sweet cream, but - like many things - by the time it gets finished running the gauntlet of parliamentary "debate", committee work, and a few public scrums, it ends up being soured by the whole experience.

No shortage of pigs for bacon either .
 
countryboy
No Party Affiliation
#16
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

No shortage of pigs for bacon either .

...and they all feed from the same trough!
 
petros
#17
Quote: Originally Posted by countryboy View Post

...and they all feed from the same trough!

Yeah...our pockets.
 
Spade
Free Thinker
#18
Observation by S. Harper during the holidays!
Quote from the horse's mouth:
"Parliament is not stable!"
 
petros
#19
What happens if there is a terrorist attack at the Oly's while Parliament is having perogies?

Martial law?
 
petros
#20
Quote: Originally Posted by Spade View Post

Observation by S. Harper during the holidays!
Quote from the horse's mouth:
"Parliament is not stable!"

 
lone wolf
Free Thinker
#21
Probably lots less shyte dumped in there....
 
Avro
No Party Affiliation
#22
Quote: Originally Posted by Tonington View Post

So, a prorogued Parliament means more instability. If you follow his logic...confidence votes, favoured by Harper, create instability. He's making the case for the opposition parties: Harper creates instability.

More here.

So what he is saying is that when democracy kicks in the governemnet is unstable and has to answer to the people so prorogue so silly things like democracy don't get in the way of our dictatorship.

NICE!
 
Mowich
Conservative
#23
Quote: Originally Posted by Liberalman View Post

In other countries this type of stunt for shutting down parliment for no valid reason would trigger a civil war and considering that some of the population are from those type of countries, the Conservative government just lit a match for that type of action.

Just when you thought the Conservatives will win a majority another skeleton falls out of their closet

Good grief, Liberalman, will you ever remove your noggin from your rearend? Immigrants fomenting civil war! I think not.
 
GreenFish66
#24
proroguing parliment seems like such a waste of time and money - but what else is new..It's to be expected..
 
Cobalt_Kid
#25
Under Harper our Parliment has been turned into a zero sum game, one side or the other takes all. He's made no effort to make things work for the people he's supposed to be representing, ALL Canadians, he's just manipulating the system to try hold on long enough to achieve a majority government.

So the Ottawa press lobby was brought into line so we don't get any more of those embarassing sponataneous questions thrown at the PM and his ministers, the conservatives tried goto members in opposition ridings to try and circumvent the Parlimentary system from the base, protocols were established by the sitting government on how to disrupt OUR Parliment and when the government gets caught engaging in undemocratic behaviour...like lying about an ongoing military mission that has cost many Canadian lives... the PM dissolves the body we all count on to represent our national interests...for the third time in three years.

It's the actions of Steven Harper that are making a mockery of our democratic system.
 
petros
#26
What happens if there is a terrorist attack at the Oly's while Parliament is having perogies?
 
lone wolf
Free Thinker
#27
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

What happens if there is a terrorist attack at the Oly's while Parliament is having perogies?

Rush Harper to the scene - preferably at the moment of....
 
Tonington
#28
Quote: Originally Posted by lone wolf View Post

Rush Harper to the scene - preferably at the moment of....

And he'll switch from rhetorician mode to astroboy, er man, something like that. The android will save us!
 
crushem
Free Thinker
#29
Harper does not see himself as a political leader, instead he thinks he is CEO of Canada and simply views everyone else as his lessors. If he could, he would fire the whole of parliament and this is the only way he can achieve a semblance of that desire.
 
Colpy
Conservative
#30
Oh will you guys PLEASE take a fricking VALIUM!!!!!

Prorogation was a political move.....gee, I'm so shocked! That a politician, involved in politics, would make a political move!! My, the world turned upside down!

The HORROR!!!

Gimme a break.

Prorogation is a perfectly legitimate move, made for a number of very good reasons......

1. To kill the idiotic Afghan detainee debate......which serves only to hand our enemies a propaganda victory, and solves nothing. The gov't has badly mishandled this file by its lack of honesty....but it is time to STFU on the subject....no detainees are being tortured by Canadians, and our troops are not involved in torture, either directly or knowingly indirectly. Full stop.

2. We have a huge deficit and a recovering economy....time for a new economic plan.

3. The Senate is Liberal-packed, and needs to be Conservative-packed to even things up on many committees and votes....including the Afghan BS abd the killing of the gun registry....talk about anti-democratic! Just look at the Senate.......

Prorogation is historically simply not a questionable activity.....that is all there is to it. It is completely normal and constitutional.....

Personally, the less time these thieves (ALL of them) spend sitting, the happier I am.....
 

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