Does Maxime Bernier's PPC stand a chance?


Curious Cdn
Conservative
#61
Quote: Originally Posted by pgs View Post

Yes they don’t want Canadians to hear what Max has to offer .

We have a pretty good idea of what Max has to offer. It looks as if he has a few thousand followers, even.
 
spaminator
+1
#62
Maxime Bernier tells party faithful he will make it into leaders’ debates
Canadian Press
Published:
August 18, 2019
Updated:
August 18, 2019 5:16 PM EDT
Maxime Bernier speaks during a candidate nomination event for the upcoming federal byelection in the riding of Outremont in Montreal, Sunday, Jan. 27, 2019. (THE CANADIAN PRESS/Graham Hughes)
OTTAWA — Maxime Bernier argued that not inviting him to take part in the official election debates means excluding the only political party leader who has anything different to say.
“It won’t be a real debate if I’m not there,” Bernier, the leader of the People’s Party of Canada, said to candidates and supporters at his party’s first national conference in Gatineau, Que., on Sunday.
“It will be a phony discussion where they attack each other on their superficial differences.”
Bernier said the Liberals, Conservatives, NDP, Greens and Bloc Quebecois all share similar views on things like immigration, climate change and supply management in the dairy sector.
Bernier dismissed his political rivals as espousing varying degrees of left-leaning views, including the Conservatives.
He accused both the Conservatives, a party he represented for over a decade, and the Liberals of catering to those they think will elect them.
“While the other parties look at polls and focus groups to decide what they stand for, and pander to every special interest group, we follow our principles,” said Bernier, who said his party does not do any polling.
Those other parties have all qualified for the debates, to be held Oct. 7 and Oct. 10, under criteria established by the federal government.
Bernier said he is confident the head of the Leaders’ Debates Commission will change his mind and allow him to join the others onstage.
http://torontosun.com/news/national/...eaders-debates
 
Curious Cdn
Conservative
#63
Quote: Originally Posted by spaminator View Post

Maxime Bernier tells party faithful he will make it into leaders’ debates
Canadian Press
Published:
August 18, 2019
Updated:
August 18, 2019 5:16 PM EDT
Maxime Bernier speaks during a candidate nomination event for the upcoming federal byelection in the riding of Outremont in Montreal, Sunday, Jan. 27, 2019. (THE CANADIAN PRESS/Graham Hughes)
OTTAWA — Maxime Bernier argued that not inviting him to take part in the official election debates means excluding the only political party leader who has anything different to say.
“It won’t be a real debate if I’m not there,” Bernier, the leader of the People’s Party of Canada, said to candidates and supporters at his party’s first national conference in Gatineau, Que., on Sunday.
“It will be a phony discussion where they attack each other on their superficial differences.”
Bernier said the Liberals, Conservatives, NDP, Greens and Bloc Quebecois all share similar views on things like immigration, climate change and supply management in the dairy sector.
Bernier dismissed his political rivals as espousing varying degrees of left-leaning views, including the Conservatives.
He accused both the Conservatives, a party he represented for over a decade, and the Liberals of catering to those they think will elect them.
“While the other parties look at polls and focus groups to decide what they stand for, and pander to every special interest group, we follow our principles,” said Bernier, who said his party does not do any polling.
Those other parties have all qualified for the debates, to be held Oct. 7 and Oct. 10, under criteria established by the federal government.
Bernier said he is confident the head of the Leaders’ Debates Commission will change his mind and allow him to join the others onstage.
http://torontosun.com/news/national/...eaders-debates

He and the other ten members of his party faithful can sneak in with the caterers.

You'll know Maxim by the guacamole on his lapel.
 
Dixie Cup
Conservative
+1
#64
I think that the politicians don't like the potential competition for votes which is why Max isn't being included. The Bloc shouldn't be included either, as they represent only 1 province and not all of Canada. What have they got to lose by having Max participate. If his ideas are so bad, it will become obvious during the debates but, of course, his ideas have resonance with the general population which isn't what the current crop of politicians want.
 
pgs
Free Thinker
#65
Quote: Originally Posted by Dixie Cup View Post

I think that the politicians don't like the potential competition for votes which is why Max isn't being included. The Bloc shouldn't be included either, as they represent only 1 province and not all of Canada. What have they got to lose by having Max participate. If his ideas are so bad, it will become obvious during the debates but, of course, his ideas have resonance with the general population which isn't what the current crop of politicians want.

No traction allowed .
 
Hoid
#66
the only people who would be worried about Maxime stealing their votes would be the conservatives
 
pgs
Free Thinker
#67
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

the only people who would be worried about Maxime stealing their votes would be the conservatives

No conservatives will be voting for Max , the mushy middle will support the Conservative Party .
 
Curious Cdn
Conservative
#68
Quote: Originally Posted by pgs View Post

No conservatives will be voting for Max , the mushy middle will support the Conservative Party .

The mushy middle silent majority ...

The extreme right freak show is going to finish behind the Marxist Leninists but they're so sure of their righteousness, they think they'll sweep some imaginary country, out there.

The People's Party may just elect the MP from Brigadoon.
 
pgs
Free Thinker
-1
#69
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

The mushy middle silent majority ...

The extreme right freak show is going to finish behind the Marxist Leninists but they're so sure of their righteousness, they think they'll sweep some imaginary country, out there.

The People's Party may just elect the MP from Brigadoon.

What is extreme about the PPC’s platform ?
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
#70
May wasn't allowed to debate in the last election no big deal
 
White_Unifier
#71
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

Bernier wants to end Canada's official bilingualism which ought to be worth 5% of the Western vote and 0.000015% of the Quebec vote.

Whacky Max has an ice cube's chance in hell if getting re-elected in this own riding.

I so wish that were his policy! That would seriously attract me. But when I emailed them about it, they're like the mainstream parties on that front.
 
spaminator
#72
Controversial billboards promoting Bernier's party to come down
Canadian Press
Published:
August 25, 2019
Updated:
August 25, 2019 5:53 PM EDT
Maxime Bernier, leader of the People's Party of Canada, raises his thumb at the launch of his campaign Sunday, August 25, 2019 in Sainte-Marie Que.Jacques Boissinot / THE CANADIAN PRESS
OTTAWA — The owner of billboards currently showcasing ads that seek to promote the People’s Party of Canada’s controversial stance on immigration reversed course on Sunday, saying the company would take the material down in response to “overwhelming” criticism.
The ads, featuring a photo of party leader Maxime Bernier, the slogan “Say NO to mass immigration” and a call to vote for his party, started popping up across the country late last week. They were criticized nearly immediately as promoting anti-immigrant rhetoric.
Petitions have since sprung up calling on billboard owners Pattison Outdoor Advertising to take the ads down, arguing that they violate the company’s own code of conduct.
The company released two statements on Sunday, the first of which said that people who have a problem with the ads should take it up with the advertiser, True North Strong & Free Advertising Corp. The statement suggested they reviewed the ad content and it did not violate the Ad Standards of Canada (ASC) code or their own policies.
“We take a neutral position on ads that comply with the ASC code as we believe Canadians do not want us to be the judge or arbiter of what the public can or cannot see,” the company said in a statement circulated on their social media accounts.
“Should advertising elicit a public debate, we encourage Canadians to voice their opinions directly to the advertiser who placed the message as it is our policy that their contact information must be a legible part of the ad.”
But later in the day, the company issued a second statement saying that while the billboards didn’t violate any policy, they would come down nonetheless.
“It was never my or Pattison Outdoor’s intention to offend, alienate or in any way insult the public by allowing this ad to be run,” company president Randy Otto wrote, adding that the company would review its advocacy guidelines.
He said that neither he nor anyone else at the company endorses the message of the advertiser.
Otto wrote that Pattison will inform True North Advertising Corp. of its decision on Monday, and the ads will come down as soon as possible.
At the People’s Party national campaign launch Sunday in Sainte-Marie, Que., Bernier said he agreed with the ad’s message, though noted they were placed by an outside group.
He said the current number of immigrants Canada accepts annually — 350,000 — is too high and needs to be scaled back.
“For me, mass immigration is 350,000 a year so yes we’re against mass immigration,” he said.
The phrase, however, is associated with more than just numbers.
Critics of the term often consider it a synonym for opposition to visible minority immigrants on the grounds they pose a threat.
Critics of the ad were interpreting it that way. The premier of Nova Scotia called the tone “negative, divisive,” while one Calgary resident who posted a petition calling for their removal said the ads are hurtful to newcomers and don’t recognize their contribution to Canadian culture.
The People’s Party of Canada platform says specifically that “mass immigration” is used as a tool by mainstream parties to buy immigrant votes and that it drives up housing prices.
The party also says immigration “should not be used to forcibly change the cultural character and social fabric of our country. And it should not put excessive financial burdens on the shoulders of Canadians in the pursuit of humanitarian goals.”
According to a filing with Elections Canada, the third-party group behind the ads is run by Frank Smeenk, the chief executive of a Toronto-based mining exploration company.
The group filed interim financial returns with Elections Canada that show it spent $59,890 on billboards in “select cities in Canada” and received $60,000 from Bassett & Walker International Inc., a company that specializes in the international trade of protein products.
Smeenk declined to comment and messages left at Bassett & Walker were not returned.
Polls suggest the People’s Party of Canada has around four per cent of voter support heading into the October election, and thus far, Bernier has been excluded from the official leadership debates.
On Sunday, Bernier was greeted by hundreds of raucous supporters who cheered his every word as he pitched his case for inclusion in the debates and repeated promises to eliminate the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission and corporate subsidies.
But at a grocery store down the road from the partisan gathering, some citizens expressed doubts about whether they would support their longtime MP under his new party’s banner.
Martin Roy, a resident of St-Isidore, said he worried that casting a ballot for Bernier could pave the way for Justin Trudeau’s Liberals to win a second term.
“If our vote divides, what good is it?” he mused.
Others at the store expressed admiration for the Conservative candidate, Richard Lehoux, a dairy producer supporting the supply management system Bernier has vowed to abolish.
Bernier acknowledged on Sunday that the race in his riding could be tight, and said he planned to campaign heavily there ahead of the election.
But for fans like Daniel Bouchette, who drove from Quebec City to attend the launch, Bernier’s willingness to take political gambles is among his greatest strengths.
“He could have rested on his laurels, sure of re-election, but he had the courage to launch a new party to do things differently,” he said.
http://torontosun.com/news/national/...be-coming-down
 
spaminator
#73
Third-party advertiser disavows 'mass immigration' message featuring Maxime Bernier on billboards
Canadian Press
Published:
August 26, 2019
Updated:
August 26, 2019 3:00 PM EDT
A billboard featuring the portrait of People’s Party of Canada leader Maxime Bernier and its message "Say NO to Mass Immigration" is displayed in Toronto, on Sunday, Aug. 25, 2019.Chris Helgren / Reuters
OTTAWA — The third-party advertising group behind billboards promoting Maxime Bernier and his stance on immigration is now distancing itself from the message, saying it never signed off on the controversial campaign.
“We completely disavow any sympathy with or support for the views expressed by donors who paid for and selected the content of their advertising, which we were mistakenly not afforded an opportunity to first approve,” Frank Smeenk, the head of True North Strong & Free Advertising Corp., wrote in an email to The Canadian Press on Monday.
The billboards, which feature pre-election advertising with Bernier’s face, the logo of his People’s Party of Canada and a slogan advocating against “mass immigration,” started appearing in different spots across the country late last week.
They quickly sparked an outpouring of criticism, including from Nova Scotia Premier Stephen McNeil, for promoting anti-immigrant rhetoric.
On Sunday, Pattison Outdoor Advertising, which owns the billboards, said the ads would come down in response to the criticism.
“It was never my or Pattison Outdoor’s intention to offend, alienate or in any way insult the public by allowing this ad to run,” president Randy Otto wrote, adding the company would review its advocacy guidelines.
Earlier that day, the company had said that if anyone took issue with the content, they should contact the third-party group running them.
But now Smeenk is saying he also takes issue with the content, and that his company was meant to just be the messenger.
“The True North Strong & Free Advertising Corp was created as a vehicle to help third-party activists promote their views prior to the upcoming election with the intention that this would be welcomed as an innovative way to participate in our democratic process,” wrote Smeenk.
Elections Canada requires all third-party partisan advertising to include a clearly visible tagline identifying the group behind it and indicating that group has authorized the ad. Photos of the billboards show this tagline was included.
According to interim financial returns the group filed with Elections Canada, True North Strong & Free Advertising spent $59,890 on billboards to be mounted in “select cities in Canada.”
It also received $60,000 from Bassett & Walker International Inc., a company that specializes in the international trade of protein products. Messages left at Bassett & Walker have not yet been returned.
Smeenk, chief executive of a Toronto-based mining exploration company, did not immediately respond to follow-up questions Monday.
The People’s Party of Canada did not place the ads, but Bernier said at his national campaign launch Sunday that he agrees with the message.
On Monday, the Quebec MP said the decision to take the billboards down amounted to censorship.
“The message on the billboard is not ’controversial’ for two-thirds of Canadians who agree with it, and for those who disagree but support free speech and an open discussion,” Bernier wrote on Twitter.
“It’s only controversial for the totalitarian leftist mob who want to censor it.”
Johanne Mennie, the party’s executive director, said Bernier already said what he had to say in the tweets.
Bernier has said the 350,000 immigrants Canada accepts every year is too high a number.
His party platform says it inflates housing prices and that other political parties to use “mass immigration” as a tool to buy votes from immigrant communities.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=hz_GYsmbE9Q
http://torontosun.com/news/national/...an-leftist-mob
 
spaminator
#74
LILLEY: Bernier billboards shouldn't have come down based on mob rule
Brian Lilley
Published:
August 26, 2019
Updated:
August 26, 2019 8:02 PM EDT
A billboard featuring the portrait of People’s Party of Canada leader Maxime Bernier and its message "Say NO to Mass Immigration" is displayed in Toronto, on Sunday, Aug. 25, 2019.Chris Helgren / Reuters
So let me get this straight, last week we were all supposed to be outraged after Elections Canada said groups advocating on climate change during the federal election might have to register as third parties.
This was seen as an attack on free speech, an attempt to silence people.
Now this week we are supposed to be outraged that billboards went up across the country in support of Maxime Bernier’s position on immigration. The fact that these billboards are now coming down is a reason for us to applaud a progressive company I’m told.
Okay, I don’t get it.
Either we believe in free speech and open political debate or we don’t.
In the case of the environmental groups, they were simply told that advocating on the issue of climate change during the campaign would mean they would have to register. They weren’t told they couldn’t speak.
I think the third-party rules are ridiculous and should be done away with, but they were passed by a Liberal majority in Parliament and I think I’m in the minority among the general population on this issue.
So if we regulate political speech on taxation policy, for instance, during an election campaign, then we should do so on issues related to the environment. I think, and the evidence would back me up, that you can’t tax your way to prosperity. But our current PM disagrees.
It’s a political issue. But so is how we deal with climate change.
So either we have one set of rules for all or none at all. All register or none do.
When it comes to the pro-Bernier ads there seems to be a double standard.
The billboards were not put up by Bernier or his party for the record but rather by a group called True North Strong and Free Advertising. They approached Bernier and asked him about placing billboards that read: “Say No to Mass Immigration.”
Bernier blames scrapped billboard ad on ‘totalitarian leftist mob’
Controversial billboards promoting Bernier’s party to come down
Bernier had no problem with the billboards going up and neither originally did the company that sold the space to the group. Then Pattison Outdoor Advertising said the ads were coming down, they were seen as offensive to some.
Suddenly, all those people who believed in free speech last week were against it this week. Even the man supposedly behind the ads, Toronto mining executive Frank Smeenk, was saying they weren’t what he wanted.
So in the face of public outcry everyone, except Bernier is running away from his immigration plan that would take annual numbers down to about 150,000 new permanent residents per year.
The Liberals meanwhile took over a system that brought in roughly 250,000 to 280,000 a year under the Conservatives and have moved to ramp it up to 350,000 new permanent residents per year.
Whatever you think of the phrase used in the ad, “Say No to Mass Immigration,” shouldn’t we be able to debate the issue openly?
I come from an immigrant family, and I don’t mean that in the “we’re all immigrants” kind of way. Tracing my family tree in Canada consists of calling my mother.
And fundamentally, I disagree with Bernier.
I think we should secure our border against the illegal border crossers that make a mockery of our system, but I’d say 150,000 new permanent residents per year is too low to satisfy the needs of our economy.
Is 350,000 the right number?
I don’t know, but as a country we should be able to debate this issue in a real way.
Taking down those billboards based on a mob mentality isn’t real debate and Canada deserves better.
blilley@postmedia.com

http://youtube.com/watch?v=hz_GYsmbE9Q
http://torontosun.com/opinion/column...ed-on-mob-rule
 
spaminator
#75
WE'RE NOT REDNECKS: Gun range won’t allow shootout between candidates
Canadian Press
Published:
September 3, 2019
Updated:
September 3, 2019 5:17 PM EDT
(Getty Images)
SASKATOON — The Saskatoon Wildlife Federation has doused plans for two People’s Party of Canada candidates to settle a debate dispute at its shooting range.
Saskatoon-Grasswood candidate Mark Friesen took to social media over the weekend promoting a shootout with fellow candidate Guto Penteado, who’s running in the riding of Saskatoon-University.
In a video, Friesen says the target competition would determine who would represent the party at an upcoming debate hosted by the Greater Saskatoon Chamber of Commerce.
The skills contest was set to be broadcast Tuesday on social media.
But Saskatoon Wildlife Federation spokesman Robert Freberg said he only learned Tuesday that the candidates intended to compete at its rifle facility. Neither is a member and the club’s board of directors would need to approve such a competition.
The club focuses on educational programming, he added, and doesn’t permit photography, partly to protect the privacy of other members using the range.
“We were blindsided,” said Freberg. “The one candidate indicated he was going to come out and buy a membership today to do that and we basically said that’s not an option.
“This isn’t in line with our values … We don’t view ourselves as rednecks.”
Friesen said in another video posted later Tuesday that he had let his membership expire and was trying to renew it, but the organization told him it was under review.
In other social media posts, the party’s Saskatoon-University riding association said the shootout would be going ahead at another location.
“Because Canadians are free to enjoy their legal passions unobstructed,” it said.
“Shooting firearms at targets is not only safe and fun, but a staple of Saskatchewan’s culture.”
Friesen indicated the shootout would take place at a private acreage.
Maxime Bernier founded the People’s Party of Canada last year after leaving the Conservative party following disagreements with leader Andrew Scheer.
The party has promised it would reduce the number of immigrants allowed into Canada, increase border security and end reliance on the United Nations for refugee selection.
http://torontosun.com/news/national/...een-candidates
 
Curious Cdn
Conservative
#76
Yaahoooo!! Mount'n Dew!!!!
 
Serryah
Free Thinker
#77
How this waste of flesh treated Greta Thunberg shows exactly why he's not fit to lead anything, let alone be a 'public servant'.

Disagree with Climate Change all you want, but to be verbally abusive/bully a sixteen year old girl who has done what she can to follow her beliefs than he ever will shows the low level this garbage person will go to for anything, even talking points.
 
Hoid
#78
The real white natty's love max for this.
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
#79
Why? Not her fault she is being used as a pawn in the church of climatology
 
DaSleeper
+1
#80
Quote: Originally Posted by Serryah View Post

Bilingualism is a shitshow.


I actually have no problem with being bilingual, but it's HOW that bilingualism is dealt with that is the issue.


Canada, despite the conception of it, is NOT bilingual.


Quebec is not bilingual.


New Brunswick is not bilingual.


What Canada and NB are is English with forced French language laws to give in to Quebec.


What Quebec is, is French with decreasing English rights.


That's not bilingualism.


New Brunswick

New Brunswick enacted its first Official Languages Act, making the province Canada's first, and only, officially bilingual province.


https://www.google.ca/search?source=...30.aRA31ojDMg4
 
Curious Cdn
Conservative
#81
Quote: Originally Posted by Serryah View Post

How this waste of flesh treated Greta Thunberg shows exactly why he's not fit to lead anything, let alone be a 'public servant'.
Disagree with Climate Change all you want, but to be verbally abusive/bully a sixteen year old girl who has done what she can to follow her beliefs than he ever will shows the low level this garbage person will go to for anything, even talking points.

Having big hates for idealistic teenagers should be a major "Sociopath" red flag.
 
Serryah
Free Thinker
#82
Quote: Originally Posted by Twin_Moose View Post

Why? Not her fault she is being used as a pawn in the church of climatology


Oh please.


A kid is concerned for her future, does what she can to try and promote a "I would not like a ****ed up world please" and so that makes her a 'pawn'.


But if she was out protesting and towing the 'climate change isn't real' line, that'd be fine to you?
 
Serryah
Free Thinker
#83
Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeper View Post

New Brunswick

New Brunswick enacted its first Official Languages Act, making the province Canada's first, and only, officially bilingual province.


https://www.google.ca/search?source=...30.aRA31ojDMg4


That's what it says.


In reality, NB is NOT Bilingual.


If we were Bilingual, again, we wouldn't need TWO distinct ways to run things, rather it'd be all one, BILINGUAL, state.


Yet we have two health authorities.


We have two school systems (and French kids not allowed on the bus with English at one point recently).


You have to pay for translations to be done which if this province was Bilingual, you would think it'd be automatic and no charge needed (and the rate is atrocious).


There is a HUGE push for French in every part of the province, and yet the province is not meeting obligations to help those who have little to no French reach the level needed, or willingness to help anyone who wants to advance their French actually do so reasonably. Shortages in a lot of places because of the push for bilingualism, which really wasn't a thing until the last, say... ten years or so. Since the previous Language Commissioner decided to make it her personal vendetta to IMO find any insult she could to push a French agenda.


Our Paramedics are short on manpower, hugely, because many of them are not Bilingual but predominantly English. So instead of dealing with the lapse, they are getting out of province paramedics to come in to work, putting our own guys out of work. Or working them into exhaustion because there's no one to cover shifts.


NB has tried for years to be Bilingual. Honestly it just will not happen no matter how much the government wants it to be. There will always be the French North, the English South and the middle ground shore from Cape Tormentine to Miramichi where it's Acandian mixed with localized French dialects. And the more the government pushes for total Bilingualism, the more parts of NB South, at least, will rebel against it.


It's pretty bad when even in my area, French locals think this forced bilingualism is stupid and don't think NB is bilingual at all.
 
Cannuck
No Party Affiliation
-1
#84
No chance at all