Does Israel have the right to a State that is free from attacks.
Does Israel have the right to secure borders.
I have seen how threads like this can become a rant and rave - yes I am guilty -
I will try to " play nice" as my friend Cliffy reminds me when I get somewhat out of hand - Thank you Cliffy - We all need that now and again -
So let us see if we can play nicely together and have a decent discussion - difference of opinion -
Do the Arab Countries have to Guarantee this ? If so how can it be enforced -
UN Troops - Useless - Look at Lebanon and the smuggling by Hezbollah - the building of bunkers and rebuilding of strategic points -
While the UN can do nothing.
Should Arab Countries accept a substantial number of the Palestinian ( Refugees) I do not consider the vast majority to be qualified as refugees as many of those present today in these camps, the fathers and mothers left Israel on the advice of Arabs that were planning to destroy Israel and murder Jews.
The Genocide never happened because Israel won the War.
What will the Arabs do when Hamas, Hezbollah and other extremists - (Terror Groups that want the total cleansing ( by any means possible) of Jews from Greater Palestine)- groups within the borders of Gaza, the West Bank and Lebanon attack Israel with rockets supplied by Iran or others -
Who will they arrest these terrorists - Likely answer is No One.
Would you trust Arab Guarantees?
Jerusalem - Should it be a divided capital - If so why - Jordan had the rights prior to the 67 war to Jerusalem and gave the rights up later- Jordan purged Jerusalem of Jews when to captured part of Jerusalem. Also -
War Crimes have been committed by Both Israeli's and Palestinians -
In April 1950, Jordan annexed eastern Jerusalem (dividing the city for the first time in its history) and the "West Bank" areas in historical Judea and Samaria that Trans-Jordan had occupied by military force in 1948 (Jordan changed its name to Trans-Jordan in April 1949). On April 24, 1950, the Jordan House of Deputies and House of Notables, in a joint session, adopted a Resolution making the West Bank and Jerusalem part of Jordan. This act had no basis in international law; it was only the de facto act of Trans-Jordan as a conqueror. The other Arab countries denied formal recognition of the Jordanian move and only two governments - Great Britain and Pakistan - formally recognized the Jordanian takeover. The rest of the world, including the United States, never did. In July 1988, in response to the accumulated pressures and the months of intifada demonstrations by Palestinians in the West Bank, King Hussein of Jordan ceded to the PLO all Jordanian claims to the territory. Any hopes of a Jordanian-Israeli resolution to the Palestine problem were effectively ended. He dissolved the Jordanian parliament, half of whom were West Bank representatives, and stopped paying salaries to over 20,000 West Bank civil servants. When the Palestine National Council recognized the PLO as the sole legal representative of the Palestinians, Hussein immediately gave them official recognition. Although the establishment of an independent Palestinian state in the West Bank posed a potential threat to Jordan as a Hashemite kingdom, Hussein gambled that this was less of a threat than the possibility of Jordan to become the alternative homeland for the Palestinians. By taking Jordan out of the way, relinquishing any claim of sovereignty, he sought to move solutions toward the Palestinian state in line with the desires of Arafat and the PLO
See UN Maps
The following statement by Abba Eban was cited in the Jerusalem Post of August 18, 1995 by Jerusalem Post columnist Moshe Kohn: "We have openly said that the map will never again be the same as on June 4, 1967. For us, this is a matter of security and of principles. The June map is for us equivalent to insecurity and danger. I do not exaggerate when I say that it has for us something of a memory of Auschwitz. We shudder when we think of what would have awaited us in the circumstances of June, 1967, if we had been defeated; with Syrians on the mountain and we in the valley, with the Jordanian army in sight of the sea, with the Egyptians who hold our throat in their hands in Gaza. This is a situation which will never be repeated in history." - Abba Eban, Israeli Statesman, in Der Spiegel, November 5, 1969
(with thanks to Dr. Aaron Lerner and to Clarence Wagner for locating this item)
On July 26, 1978, Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin, whose parents and older brother were murdered by the Nazis, commented on Israeli Televsion about Abba Eban 's use of the term "Auschwitz lines", when he described the June 4, 1967 map, saying that "you have never heard such an extreme term from me . . . because there will be no Auschwitz here"
Israel - Pre 1967 War
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_UN_resolutions_concerning_Israel_and_P alestine http://
http: // en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Mandate_of_Palestine http://
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_citizens_of_Israel http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Mandate_of_Palestine http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration_of_1917