Canada-China Crisis


spilledthebeer
#61
Quote: Originally Posted by Johnnny View Post

Trudeau hasn't been looking all that tough on the world stage these days or ever. He just makes looking like a vassal to the United States so much more obvious than people before him. >_<




Poor stupid Johnny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


He thinks that sucking up to China and Iran make us LESS a vassal state............................................. .....


than SUPPORTING allies who share our western values!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !








Here is an article illustrating the poisonous illogic of LIE-berals and their supporters! With some comments of my own in brackets):

Canada must not be a vassal state

By Irvin Studin - Opinion

Published: January 3, 2019

Editor’s note: The opinions in this article are the author’s, as published by our content partner, and do not necessarily represent the views of MSN or Microsoft.

In 2018, Ottawa’s main priority was Washington, Irvin Studin writes. In 2019, he says, Ottawa must realize the importance of its relationships with China and Russia.

(Really? Our so called relationship with China is in serious trouble simply because China is sucking up to Iranian radicals who want to build nuclear weapons with which to destroy Israel!! And in the process destroy most of the planet when Israel responds as it will - with its own nuclear arsenal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(LIE-berals have NO ANSWER to the question of WHY we should support rabid Muslim FANATICS over Jews!! Nor do LIE-berals explain why we should accept a dictator like Putin over Donald Trump!! After all, Trump was ELECTED - unlike bloody handed dictator Putin!!!!!)

( Our idiot Boy Justin sends Cdn aid to terror group HAMAS- the people sworn to drive the Jews into the sea!! LIE-berals also refuse to deport CONVICTED terrorists from Canada!! LIE-berals make a mockery of any sort of even handed fair minded foreign affairs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(Jews have a longer record of habitation in the Middle East than Palestinians!! The HONEST BROKER will recognize that BOTH SIDES have SOME CLAIM to the land there!!! How sad that LIE-berals support Muslims who DESPISE anybody who expects them to SHARE with Jews!!!!!!!!!!!)

(We KNOW that a Jewish Kingdom existed in the Holy Lands until Romans destroyed it and allowed Palestinians to immigrate to the area centuries later!!!!!!)

(And we know the Holy Land was under the control of the CHRISTIAN Holy Roman Empire- until Muslim Turks invaded!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Canada is not a vassal state. Or are we?

(Canada is NOT a vassal state but this is a fact LIE-berals want to ERASE!! LIE-berals despise western morals and values and seek to weaken us at every turn!! Offering aid and support to nations that share and support our values IS NOT any sort of surrender to others!! The ugly truth is that LIE-berals want us to switch sides and support dictators and autocrats- because that is what LIE-berals think is best - FOR POWER SEEKING LIE-berals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(That MILLIONS of people are voluntarily immigrating to western lands is proof of the superiority of western rights and rule of law- that LIE-berals are under- mining for their own selfish reasons!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

By all appearances, we finished 2018 as a vassal state. Can we finish 2019 without becoming a strategic cripple? I use brutal language to rouse us from our strategic stupor.

(You use poisoned words to detract from logic and truth!! This is NOT a virtue!!!!!)

Canada should never be a vassal state. We remain, among nations, “too big to fail” — a leading democracy long admired for its civility and good governance.

(Too big to fail is a LIE!! As other nations have discovered -to their cost!!!!! We are no more immune to Fascism or Communism than any others!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

What happened as to “vassalize” us with such rapidity? Answer: We made two capital mistakes.

The first was the USMCA agreement (the new NAFTA) in both process and final product. While sold with self-congratulation, USMCA saw Canada, under American pressure, sign onto a treaty that stripped us of major foreign policy prerogatives without removing the original sources of pressure -tariffs and threats of tariffs whenever the American president so decides.

(You are telling us NOTHING HAS CHANGED!! There is and always has been a PRICE for independence!! To bad LIE-berals have refused to pay the price for many decades!! LIE-berals must not assume they can create MULTIPLE national security issues in Canada- that ALARM our Yankee neighbours - and yet still keep the border open and free!! There is a price paid for LIE-beral anti Yankee bigotry!!!!!!!!)

(LIE-beral Mackenzie King met one on one with Adolf Hitler in 1936 after he had made his speech telling the world that “Germany will forge its future in blood and iron”! And King did not bother asking: “whose blood and how much of it”?????????????????????????????)

(King then went on to tell our Parliament that “Hitler was a dour but basically good man, bringing some much needed hope and discipline to the German people”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(And King SCOFFED at suggestions that Canada might expand its armed forces!!!
King then told us the Winston Churchill was a “rabble rouser and war monger”!!!)

(Because of the twisted values of LIE-berals like King- a generation of Cdn soldiers were sent off with quick training and obsolete weapons to fight well equipped PRO`s!!! Cdns died because of LIE-beral refusal to recognize the threat Hitler posed to the world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(And now LIE-berals are trying to WHITE WASH Russia, China, North Korea and the Muslim Radical terrorists!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(Cooperating with other western states makes us ALLIES in a good cause!!!!!!!!!)

(LIE-beral values are turning us into a CRAVEN pack of cowards PRETENDING we are not supporting the TERRORISTS and dictators!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(That rat lying Brian Mulroney signed the original Free Trade Agreement because Canada was BANKRUPT! Our debts had hit a point that worried our foreign creditors- Yankees, Germans and Japanese!! A Cdn debt default in the Greek style would HURT THEM TOO!!)

(So Mulroney opened up the Cdn economy to Yankee corporations in order to AVOID having to sharply curtail govt spending!! Mulroney had a choice- curtail borrowing and retain Cdn independence while paying down debt - or open our economy to Yankees!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(We ALL KNOW that civil service union HOGS dominate our elections and HOGS DEMAND GRAVY!! The politician who wants to be elected MUST ENSURE the govt gravy train is well stocked and Hogs DO NOT CARE about sovereignty nearly as much as gravy -thus Mulroney made his economic choice to sign on with the much scorned NAFTA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(And now -Our idiot Boy Justin had made the choice to destroy NAFTA and demonstrate his anti Yankee and anti western values!! We should recall that LIE-beral Jean Chretien told us that many LIE-berals enjoy hearing their leaders sneer at Yankees!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

With zero national debate, Canada made -or allowed Washington to make us make- an unnecessary enemy of China, which, despite its pathologies, is the most important country of this century. Having been seen to fold so quickly and consequentially under pressure, we lost the strategic respect of major political capitals, starting with Washington, Beijing and Moscow.

(Nazi Germany was the most important country in the 1930`s and 40`s- so should we have supported Hitler because of it?????????????????)

(The issue here is NOT about China! It is about the desire of Iran to use nuclear weapons to destroy Israel and to potentially BULLY any other country that opposed Iranian wishes! And do we really wish to AID the LUNATICS in Tehran?????????)

(And the larger question is this- would Iran SELL nuclear weapons to TERRORISTS?? Would Iran be comfortable watching terrorists hold the entire planet to nuclear blackmail?? LIE-berals are curiously blinkered on this stuff!!!!!)

The second key mistake of 2018 was wasted time and tunnel vision. Ottawa’s three international priorities were: Washington, Washington and Washington. Now we see that the world moves along larger axes: if Canada has crises with China today and Russia tomorrow, then the absence of deep, differentiated relationships and a broader mental map is no national badge of honour.

(CANADA WAS long ago SOLD to Yankees!! They own HUGE SWATHS of our economy thanks to Mackenzie King and his “Minister of Everything” C.D. Howe!! In the aftermath of the Great Depression -LIE-berals decided the best way to rapidly improve the Cdn economy with “good jobs” was to offer tax breaks to foreign corporations that would build branch plants here!!)

(The branch plant idea worked well enough while Europe and Asia were in that post war economic SHAMBLES!! Too bad they have rebuilt their economies better than ever and are now running US out of business!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(And it does not help that Cdn LIE-berals granted General Motors a pile of loans and grants- that just about EQUAL the amount of investment GM made in Russia at the same time!! LIE-berals made a VIRTUE of being SUCKERED!!! And now they want to REPEAT the sucker deals with foreign green energy producers and with electric TOY car makers like Tesla!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Can we reverse our predicament in 2019? Indubitably, provided we can switch gears and become a serious people for serious times.

(Yes! And the GREAT CHANGE STARTS by DUMPING Our idiot Boy Justin and his loser LIE-berals from office in October!! Then we can begin the LONG JOB of restoring our country!! It will take MANY DECADES just to deal with the $100 BILLION DOLLARS in new federal debt Our idiot Boy has loaded us with in his 4 years in office!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(And it will take CENTURIES to deal with the Ontari-owe provincial debts run up by Wynne-bag LIE-berals as they frantically tried to BUY elections so they could cling to power at any price!! And how long will New Brunswick take to deal with the 2014 LIE-beral deficit of FOURTEEN BILLION DOLLARS - in a province with a population of 751,000??????????????????????)

(The mind boggles at the CENTURIES of dedicated debt reduction we MUST UNDERTAKE if we are to restore our financial freedom!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

We have five priorities: America, China, Russia, Europe, plus our domestic scaffolding.

America and China: Canada will continue to be under ferocious economic and psychological pressure from both Washington and Beijing. To regain our standing and self-respect, we must avoid the primitive seduction of morality plays, deliver bloody noses to each in turn, and propose a strategic bridge.

(WE do one tenth of the trade with China that we do with Yankees - thus LIE-berals who are so focused on dollars MUST look to trade with Yankees as being best for Canada!! Nor can we expand our trade with China without coming into SERIOUS national security issues related to Chinese HATE of Yankees!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(Yes- we need to recall that Washington wishes to keep Canada as an ALLY!! To bad China wants to convert us to an Asian COLONY!! The Yankees are not saints- but their concepts of civil right and rule of law are FAR SUPERIOR to what Beijing has to offer!! The massacre of Chinese protestors in Tiananmen Square and Chinese cooperation with radical Iranian Mullahs is GRAPHIC PROOF of that statement!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(And the proven record of China using SLAVE LABOUR to produce stuff for sale in the west in not helping Cdn opinion of China!! It seems to embarrass LIE-berals that MANY Cdns would live in United States - but VERY FEW Cdns would voluntarily live in China!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Vis-à-vis Washington, we cannot ratify USMCA unless the steel and aluminum tariffs are lifted — a red line we’ve allowed to be crossed without consequence. We must also be cunning enough to renegotiate section 32.10 of the agreement in the service of Canadian strategic flexibility, just as Congress renegotiates other sections. Finally, we must create distance, in fact and appearance, between the pressures from Washington and Canadian decision-making.

(The whole NAFTA MESS was DELIBERATELY created by stupid LIE-berals who expected that they would NEVER have to deal honestly with Trump! Idiot Cdn LIE-berals BELIEVED their bigoted Yankee counterparts and assumed Trump would be impeached or die of apoplexy or something like that and clear the stage!!!)

(Now Cdn LIE-berals ARE CAUGHT- between a firmly entrenched Trump and the intransigent and xenophobic Chinese who are even more scornful of Cdn LIE-beral values than Trump is!! The Chinese ambassador has already scorned the Cdn LIE- beral NAFTA plans - telling us that such “social issues have no place in a trade agreement”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(Cdn LIE-berals have been caught out and are now scrambling desperately to find some explanation for their craven bigotry towards our Yankee allies and largest trading partner!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

To Beijing, we must signal muscularly that Canada, speaking with its own voice, won’t tolerate capricious arrests of our citizens. If necessary, Canada could threaten to temporarily block visas and flight-transit rights for select Chinese business people.

(Poor stupid LIE-berals!! They DO NOT understand that China considers the arrest of Meng to be UNFAIR!! For the simple reason that Chinese NEED SUPERCEDES any Cdn law alliance or United Nations Sanctions against Iran- which is what got the Meng business going!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(China has NO INTENTION of dealing fairly or openly!! That is bottom the line!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(And Our idiot Boy compromises Cdn national security and economic prosperity by PRETENDING China is not a major THREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
+2
#62
Beijing snubbed Trudeau's request to talk with Chinese premier about detainees

Quote:

Beijing ignored a personal attempt by Prime Minister Justin Trudeau earlier this year to arrange a conversation with China's premier in order to intervene on behalf of Canadians detained in China, CBC News has learned.
"You are reaching out to Prime Minister Li Keqiang," begins a Jan. 11 briefing note to Trudeau, drafted in preparation for that phone call.
Li is China's head of government and its chief administrator, overseeing the day-to-day operations of the nation. (China's premier is also referred to as 'prime minister'.)
Trudeau's office confirms that the prime minister requested the meeting, but China ignored and ultimately rejected his request.
A spokesperson for the Prime Minister's Office said Trudeau requested the call prior to a sentencing hearing for Robert Schellenberg, a Canadian man accused of drug smuggling in China.
"In advance of the January 14 sentencing hearing for Robert Schellenberg, the Prime Minister requested a call with Premier Li Keqiang, so that he could personally advocate for clemency in this case as well as reinforce our repeated call for the immediate release of Michael Kovrig and Michael Spavor," said PMO spokesperson Chantal Gagnon in a statement.
Businessman Michael Spavor and former diplomat Michael Kovrig were detained separately in December, shortly after Canada arrested Huawei chief financial officer Meng Wanzhou in Vancouver on a U.S. extradition warrant.

Trudeau has condemned the detention of the Canadians as "arbitrary."
Following the rejection of Trudeau's request for phone conversation with Li, a Chinese court sentenced Schellenberg to death in a sudden retrial, escalating an already tense situation.
Secret diplomacy
The heavily redacted 10-page briefing note prepared in advance of the call — dubbed "Outreach to Prime Minister Li Keqiang of China" — provides the first public glimpse into Trudeau's behind-the-scenes efforts to engage the Chinese government directly. It involved the highest level of Canada's bureaucracy and was led by Greta Bossenmaier, Trudeau's national security and intelligence adviser.
The note, marked "secret", was obtained by CBC News under the federal Access to Information Act.
It outlines preparations that took place as the diplomatic rift between the two countries deepened.
Trudeau and Li last met in late 2018 at the ASEAN summit in Singapore, something the prime minister's advisers saw as an opening for discussion.
"It was a pleasure to see you in Singapore in November. It was a good opportunity to review the many important mutually beneficial areas of cooperation," say the suggested introductory talking points prepared for Trudeau and listed in the briefing note.
The Chinese Embassy in Ottawa and the Chinese Foreign Ministry in Beijing did not immediately respond to CBC News' request for comment about Trudeau's request.
Cold shoulder
Roland Paris, a former foreign policy adviser to the prime minister, said the documents suggest the rejection is all part of China's strategy.
"If indeed China refused to arrange this call, then it would be consistent with China having frozen communications between our two countries, including at very high levels," said Paris, now an associate professor of public and international affairs at the University of Ottawa.
"Canada is stuck in an extremely difficult situation with very little leverage, and our relations with China will probably remain frozen, at least until Ms. Meng's extradition hearing is resolved."
In the weeks following the rebuffed call, Trudeau and Foreign Affairs Minister Chrystia Freeland held dozens of high-level discussions with foreign heads of government, ministers and diplomats in an effort to rally an international coalition of countries to publicly speak out in support of the detained Canadians.
At home, Trudeau has been under increasing pressure, particularly from Conservatives, to reach out to the Chinese leadership.
"I actually think that by picking up the phone and having that kind of conversation, we might be able to defuse the situation," Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer said.
Trudeau 'isn't taken seriously' - Raitt
Today, Conservative deputy leader Lisa Raitt said the snub by Beijing only proves that Trudeau isn't "taken seriously on the world stage."
"It's pretty serious when your prime minister can't get a phone call with another world leader," she said. "If he can't get a phone call with the premier of China, that's just going to show them how ineffectual he is."
Last week, the prime minister said he was considering "engaging directly" with Chinese President Xi Jinping as tensions between Canada and China continue to smoulder.
"I look forward to being at the G20 in a few weeks as an opportunity to engage with a number of world leaders with whom we have either good working relationships or challenges," Trudeau said June 6, speaking about the upcoming gathering in Japan. "The opportunity to engage with the Chinese president directly is certainly something that we are looking at."
The G20 will meet in Osaka at the end of the month.
Freeland said she repeatedly tried and failed to get a meeting with her counterpart, Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi.
"It's very clear that this is a very difficult moment in the relationship between Canada and China," she told CBC Radio last month.
"I have sought repeatedly a meeting with Wang Yi, the foreign minister, my counterpart. Thus far that meeting hasn't happened. But if Chinese officials are listening to us today, let me repeat that I would be very, very keen to meet with Minister Wang Yi or to speak with him over the phone at the earliest opportunity."

How is that progressive trade agreement looking now, China totally dismissing 'Lil Potato and his twitterpodiom lackey Freeland
 
Hoid
#63
What progressive trade agreement is that?
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
+1
#64
The same one that is posted in this thread way back when Xi kicked them out of China the first time
 
Hoid
#65
Haven't we had one trade deal or another with them since Chretien?
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
+2
#66
Go brush up on it and report back I gave you a direction to look in
 
Hoid
#67
You pasted a large article that you didn't read and couldn't understand if you did.

What trade deal are you babbling about?
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
+2
#68
The one that got cancelled dumbass!

Here is your hero Freeland back at the twitterpodium telling China how to handle human rights again

China issues warning after Canada raises concerns over planned extradition law

Quote:

China is once again issuing a warning to Canada after Foreign Affairs Minister Chrystia Freeland put out a statement outlining concerns over Beijing's planned extradition law.
Violent protests in Hong Kong this week are in opposition to a government-sponsored bill that would allow people to be extradited to mainland China to face charges.
If approved, the legislation would cover Hong Kong residents and foreign and Chinese nationals living or travelling through the city, sparking concerns it may threaten the rule of law that underpins Hong Kong's international financial status.
"Canada remains concerned about the potential effect these proposals may have on the large number of Canadian citizens in Hong Kong, on business confidence and on Hong Kong's international reputation," said Freeland in a written statement Wednesday.
"Freedom of expression and assembly are the bedrock of Hong Kong's free society. It is vital that any legislation preserve Hong Kong's high degree of autonomy, rule of law and independent judiciary."
A few hours later, the Chinese Embassy in Canada put out its own statement.
"Hong Kong affairs are purely China's internal affairs," it read. "No other country, organization or individual has the right to interfere in. Recently, some people from the Canadian government made irresponsible and erroneous comments on the Hong Kong [Special Administrative Region] government's amendment to the ordinance and other Hong Kong affairs."
"We deplore and firmly oppose this.... We urge the Canadian side to exercise caution in its words and deeds, stop intervening in the normal legislative process of the Hong Kong SAR, and stop in whatever form interfering in Hong Kong affairs and China's domestic affairs."
Beijing snubbed Trudeau's request to talk
The diplomatic digs have become par for the course in recent months following Canada's arrest of Huawei chief financial officer Meng Wanzhou on a U.S. extradition warrant in December.
Soon after, China detained businessman Michael Spavor and former diplomat Michael Kovrig. Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has condemned the detention of the Canadians as "arbitrary."
He's been under increasing pressure, particularly from Conservatives, to reach out to the Chinese leadership.
However, Beijing ignored a personal attempt by Trudeau earlier this year to arrange a conversation with China's premier in order to intervene on behalf of Canadians detained in China.
Trudeau's office told CBC News that the prime minister requested a call with Prime Minister Li Keqiang, but China ignored and ultimately rejected his request.
A spokesperson for the Chinese Foreign Ministry blamed the diplomatic freeze on Canada.
"What I can tell you is that the current setback China-Canada relations face are entirely caused by the Canadian side itself, and the responsibility lies entirely with Canada, too," said Geng Shuang on Thursday morning.
Last week, the prime minister said he was considering "engaging directly" with Chinese President Xi Jinping as tensions between Canada and China continue to smoulder...……..Click the link for full article...….that means you too Hoid

 
petros
+1
#69
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

What progressive trade agreement is that?

The Trans-Pacific Partnership, also called the Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement, is a defunct proposed trade agreement between Australia, Brunei, Canada, Chile, Japan, Malaysia, Mexico, New Zealand, ... Wikipedia
Effective: Not in force
Drafted: 5 October 2015; 3 years ago
 
Hoid
+1 / -1
#70
Oh so tensions with the Chinese have resulted in the scuttling of an agreement they were not a party to.

That makes some good climate change denier sense.
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
+1
#71
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

You pasted a large article that you didn't read and couldn't understand if you did.
What trade deal are you babbling about?

Ok Dumbass here you go spoon fed again

Trudeau leaves China with a defence of Western media, but no progress on free trade

Quote:

Mr. Trudeau is going home having failed to launch free-trade talks between Canada and China. The Prime Minister had been widely expected to kick off formal negotiations during what was his second official visit to China; China's ambassador had publicly forecast the start of negotiations as recently as late October.
China offered soothing words Thursday, with foreign ministry spokesman Geng Shuang saying "the negotiations have achieved some progress."
"We will take a pragmatic attitude to work with the Canadian side to promote the building of the Canada-China [free-trade agreement]," he added.
But the Chinese government appears to have resisted the Liberal leader's attempt to impose Canadian-style labour and environment standards and gender rights through a trade pact.
One business leader privately expressed frustration Tuesday, saying he had not been led to believe that these stipulations for "progressive" standards would be so stubbornly pursued by the Liberals. (Mr. Geng declined comment on areas of difference.)
For this, Mr. Trudeau was unapologetic, saying he does not believe countries can keep signing trade deals that don't carry specific benefits and supports for ordinary citizens. Those sort of accords will trigger backlashes from the public, the Prime Minister said, as has happened around the world in recent years...……………...More in article
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China and Canada Fail to Agree on Launching Free Trade Talks

Quote:

A push to launch free trade negotiations between China and Canada fell flat Monday, with the nations abruptly scrapping a planned press conference and agreeing instead to extend exploratory talks.
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau signaled one sticking point was Canada’s preference for sprawling “progressive” pacts, and that the countries only wanted to launch formal talks if they were more confident a deal could be reached. It’s the second time in a month that Canada has effectively left a trade partner at the altar.
To continue readin

 
Cliffy
Free Thinker
#72
Quote: Originally Posted by Twin_Moose View Post

Ok Dumbass here you go spoon fed again


 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
#73
How do you know how I treat anyone offline Cliffy?
 
Vbeacher
+2
#74
Quote: Originally Posted by Ocean Breeze View Post

How would YOU handle this .....if you were the PM???


Just off the top of my head...


Do not find the time to meet or accept the credentials of the new Chinese ambassador. No one in the government takes phone calls from him or his embassy. They get no invitations to diplomatic affairs. Complete freeze-out.

Stepped up searches of all vessels coming from China to look for fentanyl. If such stepped up searches result in longer and longer delays, apologize to shippers and express your sadness. Step them up further.
Close down Chinese Confucius centres
Begin curtailing number of Chinese students allowed to study in Canada (in anticipation of China cutting back to use as a weapon).
Heavy crackdown on Canadians of Chinese origin cooperating with Chinese authorities, esp the ones who own Chinese language media in Canada who now pump out propaganda straight from Beijing.
Expansion of security monitoring of Chinese immigrants, esp those working in technical areas.

Bar all purchases of Canadian companies by China. Force China to sell existing companies.

Ban all imports of Chinese steel on 'national security' reasons. Compile list of other areas of 'national security' to bar further imports.
 
spilledthebeer
#75
Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post






HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Cliffy SEES HIMSLEF as a talking tree....................


from a Charming Fairy Tale!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


That EXPLAINS A LOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !

 
spilledthebeer
#76
Quote: Originally Posted by Vbeacher View Post

Just off the top of my head...


Do not find the time to meet or accept the credentials of the new Chinese ambassador. No one in the government takes phone calls from him or his embassy. They get no invitations to diplomatic affairs. Complete freeze-out.

Stepped up searches of all vessels coming from China to look for fentanyl. If such stepped up searches result in longer and longer delays, apologize to shippers and express your sadness. Step them up further.
Close down Chinese Confucius centres
Begin curtailing number of Chinese students allowed to study in Canada (in anticipation of China cutting back to use as a weapon).
Heavy crackdown on Canadians of Chinese origin cooperating with Chinese authorities, esp the ones who own Chinese language media in Canada who now pump out propaganda straight from Beijing.
Expansion of security monitoring of Chinese immigrants, esp those working in technical areas.

Bar all purchases of Canadian companies by China. Force China to sell existing companies.

Ban all imports of Chinese steel on 'national security' reasons. Compile list of other areas of 'national security' to bar further imports.




Uh.....................................STEPPED UP SEARCHES of Chinese vessels for Fentanyl SHOULD BE AUTOMATIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


After all Red China is reported to be the MAJOR WORLD SUPPLIER of Fentanyl!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !


Regardless of the current behaviour of the Chinese govt!!!!!!!!



As for not accepting the credentials of the Chinese ambassador.....................................



I say that is WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


We should talk honestly to any representative that wishes to speak with us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


WE just need to reserve the right to LAUGH IN THEIR FACES when they spout Red Chinese propaganda!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


If they get sulky and go home..................................


as the old Chinese ambassador did.......................................


that is his LOSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


HE has to go live in that Crowded, Polluted, BEIJING Pressure Cooker!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Instead of enjoying a nice life in Canada!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!



We are trying to encourage SENSIBLE BEHAVIOUR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!


NOT START WW3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Hoid
-1
#77
Quote: Originally Posted by Vbeacher View Post

Just off the top of my head...


Do not find the time to meet or accept the credentials of the new Chinese ambassador. No one in the government takes phone calls from him or his embassy. They get no invitations to diplomatic affairs. Complete freeze-out.

Stepped up searches of all vessels coming from China to look for fentanyl. If such stepped up searches result in longer and longer delays, apologize to shippers and express your sadness. Step them up further.
Close down Chinese Confucius centres
Begin curtailing number of Chinese students allowed to study in Canada (in anticipation of China cutting back to use as a weapon).
Heavy crackdown on Canadians of Chinese origin cooperating with Chinese authorities, esp the ones who own Chinese language media in Canada who now pump out propaganda straight from Beijing.
Expansion of security monitoring of Chinese immigrants, esp those working in technical areas.

Bar all purchases of Canadian companies by China. Force China to sell existing companies.

Ban all imports of Chinese steel on 'national security' reasons. Compile list of other areas of 'national security' to bar further imports.

all of these things are illegal.
 
pgs
Free Thinker
+2
#78
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

all of these things are illegal.

No they are not all illegal . CBSA can stop and search any vessel entering Canadian waters .
 
Vbeacher
#79
Quote: Originally Posted by B00Mer View Post

We will be rid of our pansy ass throng wearing closest faggot in 8 months..

Then we will elect Trump, wait, no..


The only thing which could persuade me to vote for Trudeau would be if he was running against that fat, brainless tub of narcissistic lard.
 
Hoid
+1 / -1
#80
I think some people need to look into the deal that Mr Harper made with China.

It was a beauty. For china.
 
Mowich
Conservative
+1
#81
Freeland needs to smarten up and realize that her juvenile 'twitter diplomacy' could bring yet more harm to the two Canadians currently condemned to death in China. Somehow those two men keep getting lost in all the jargon and lack of compromise. I surely don't know what the solution may be but one needs to be found fast before the men are executed and yet more of our exports are blacklisted. Chretien's ignorant remarks about dropping the extradition against that Huwaie creature most certainly did not help the situation so he can keep his yap shut too. Send her to the US tout suite and lets get on with with getting the men home where they belong and our exports off the blacklist.
 
Vbeacher
#82
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

all of these things are illegal.

In what imaginary world?

None of them are illegal.
 
Hoid
#83
I'm afraid they are.

When Harper sold us out and signed the FIPA agreement it gave China complete access to our economy.

And it lasts 31 years
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
+1
#84
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

I think some people need to look into the deal that Mr Harper made with China.
It was a beauty. For china.

Do tell
 
Hoid
#85
Why not find a news article and paste it up here

Then people will think you know stuff.
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
+1
#86
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

Why not find a news article and paste it up here
Then people will think you know stuff.

Your turn you brought it up, assfacts don't count
 
Hoid
#87
I admit I just invented it.

Harper did not sign any agreement with China.

It was fake news.
 
B00Mer
No Party Affiliation
+1
#88
Quote: Originally Posted by Vbeacher View Post

The only thing which could persuade me to vote for Trudeau would be if he was running against that fat, brainless tub of narcissistic lard.

So you're saying you like Trump.. got it.
 
spilledthebeer
#89
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

all of these things are illegal.




OH hemer-HOID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



You REALLY STEPPED IN IT THIS TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!


You are actually trying to tell us...................................


that any LOGICAL DEFENSE of Cdn independence and sovereignty is ILLEGAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!


What planet did YOU COME FROM????????????????????????????????????????
 
petros
#90
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