American torture leaves Bradley Manning catatonic


CUBert
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Bradley Manning Now "Catatonic"; Obama ENOUGH! -- Puppet Masters -- Sott.net


As Obama's crime of the destruction of Bradley Manning continues to unfold before our very eyes, Manning friend David House now tells us that over 8 months in isolation with movement and sleep restrictions placed on him have been having their intended effect. House has told MSNBC that by the end of January Manning appeared "catatonic" and that he had "severe problems communicating,"
 
Colpy
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Quote: Originally Posted by CUBert View Post

Bradley Manning Now "Catatonic"; Obama ENOUGH! -- Puppet Masters -- Sott.net


As Obama's crime of the destruction of Bradley Manning continues to unfold before our very eyes, Manning friend David House now tells us that over 8 months in isolation with movement and sleep restrictions placed on him have been having their intended effect. House has told MSNBC that by the end of January Manning appeared "catatonic" and that he had "severe problems communicating,"

Ahhhhhhh.......really????

Not allowed to sleep in his undies because he threatens to hang himself?

Oh the Horror!!!!

Catatonic, you say? And perhaps you could tell me how that indicates any change in the cognitive abilities of this whiny, self-centered, neurotic, vicious little traitor???

I've got an idea!!! Treat Mr. Manning like everyone else! Release him into the general population! It is only full of Marines.........I'm sure he'll be fine! You know how Marines love treason!

Manning deserves no sympathy. He committed a treasonous act because he felt lonely and ignored.

He should be tried for treason and, if found guilty, stood against the nearest wall and shot.

But the most he can get, as far as I have heard, is 55 years.

Ah, the mercy and benevolence of the US gov't!!!
 
EagleSmack
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It's called prison. That is what happens when you go there.

He better get used to it.

Quote: Originally Posted by Colpy View Post

But the most he can get, as far as I have heard, is 55 years.

I bet he will get life just like the Walkers did. Passing Confidential files to WikiLeaks is no different than giving them to a foreign country.
 
CUBert
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"soon found himself helping the Iraqi authorities detain civilians for distributing "anti-Iraqi literature" -- which turned out to be an investigative report into financial corruption in their own government entitled "Where does the money go?" The penalty for this "crime" in Iraq was not a slap on the wrist. Imprisonment and torture, as well as systematic abuse of prisoners, are widespread in the new Iraq. From the military's own Sigacts (Significant Actions) reports, we have a multitude of credible accounts of Iraqi police and soldiers shooting prisoners, beating them to death, pulling out fingernails or teeth, cutting off fingers, burning with acid, torturing with electric shocks or the use of suffocation, and various kinds of sexual abuse including sodomization with gun barrels and forcing prisoners to perform sexual acts on guards and each other...

Like any good soldier, Manning immediately took these concerns up the chain of command. And how did his superiors respond? His commanding officer told him to "shut up" and get back to rounding up more prisoners for the Iraqi Federal Police to treat however they cared to..."


Manning also found a video and an official report on American air strikes on the village of Granai in Afghanistan's Farah Province (also known as "the Granai massacre"). According to the Afghan government, 140 civilians, including women and a large number of children, died in those strikes.


Not only is this not treasonous, I'd go so far to say it's patriotic, in the sense he perhaps actually gives a **** about how the world views Americans and their military and wants it to act in a more humanistic manner rather than bombing the **** out of afghan women and children. He simply brought attention to the brutal and horrific actions of America's military in hopes of bringing the carnage to an end.

For his compassion and support of non-american citizens getting raped by his military each day, he gets tortured to retardation.
 
PoliticalNick
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Ahhhh, Colpy. What can I say that I haven't already.

Your comlete lack of respect for humanity in general is only outdone by your promotion of more senseless violence against someone who disagrees with you.

We can only hope that you are a religious man and that you will enjoy your eternity in hell. You continue to demonstrate your absolute lack of any respect for the basic principles of morality and responsibility to others in this world.

Your repeated rhetoric of 'praise the US and pass the bullets' is tiring to me and your nonsensical diatribes are boring at best.

If you have any thoughts at all on how to make the world a better place for all the brotherhood of man I would be interested in hearing them. Of course I would be surprised if you are capable of any thought that isn't spoon-fed to you by the war mongers in washington.
 
Skatchie
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Quote: Originally Posted by PoliticalNick View Post

Ahhhh, Colpy. What can I say that I haven't already.

Your comlete lack of respect for humanity in general is only outdone by your promotion of more senseless violence against someone who disagrees with you.

We can only hope that you are a religious man and that you will enjoy your eternity in hell. You continue to demonstrate your absolute lack of any respect for the basic principles of morality and responsibility to others in this world.

Your repeated rhetoric of 'praise the US and pass the bullets' is tiring to me and your nonsensical diatribes are boring at best.

If you have any thoughts at all on how to make the world a better place for all the brotherhood of man I would be interested in hearing them. Of course I would be surprised if you are capable of any thought that isn't spoon-fed to you by the war mongers in washington.

bam!
 
BaalsTears
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Quote: Originally Posted by CUBert View Post

As Obama's crime of the destruction of Bradley Manning continues to unfold before our very eyes, Manning friend David House now tells us that over 8 months in isolation with movement and sleep restrictions placed on him have been having their intended effect. House has told MSNBC that by the end of January Manning appeared "catatonic" and that he had "severe problems communicating,"

Yup, it's Obama's fault. Obama's a monster.
 
DaSleeper
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At first, Obama was the great saviour .........
Now that he is faced with a heavy dose of reality the leftards are turning on him
 
YukonJack
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Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeper View Post

At first, Obama was the great saviour .........
Now that he is faced with a heavy dose of reality the leftards are turning on him

Yeah, either buyer's remorse or they are beginning to see the wisdom of the words of Dr. Martin Luther King to judge a person not by the colour of his skin, but the content of his character.
 
lone wolf
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So was Obama supposed to shake Manning's hand and excuse him?
 
Skatchie
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Quote: Originally Posted by YukonJack View Post

Yeah, either buyer's remorse or they are beginning to see the wisdom of the words of Dr. Martin Luther King to judge a person not by the colour of his skin, but the content of his character.

there is no content to judge. he's just a puppet
 
PoliticalNick
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Hey, Obama has made so much history.

He is the first black president, and....er... and...um... and...well he is the first black president.
 
lone wolf
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Quote: Originally Posted by PoliticalNick View Post

Hey, Obama has made so much history.

He is the first black president, and....er... and...um... and...well he is the first black president.

Big deal... He's figurehead - just like every other party leader.
 
YukonJack
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Quote: Originally Posted by PoliticalNick View Post

Hey, Obama has made so much history.

He is the first black president, and....er... and...um... and...well he is the first black president.

Really??

Clinton as the First Black President

Quote: Originally Posted by YukonJack View Post

Really??

Clinton as the First Black President

Or for good measure:

Is Obama really the first black president? - Weird News - Canoe.ca
 
Johnnny
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Unfortunately folks traitors must be dealt with harshly. Because if we just slap one on the wrist more people will just follow suit. I do feel bad for this kid but in the end he is a traitor.
 
PoliticalNick
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You bet, all those traitorous bastards that stand up against discrimination and torture in the name of oil profits should be made an example of...
 
Goober
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Quote: Originally Posted by CUBert View Post

Not only is this not treasonous, I'd go so far to say it's patriotic, in the sense he perhaps actually gives a **** about how the world views Americans and their military and wants it to act in a more humanistic manner rather than bombing the **** out of afghan women and children. He simply brought attention to the brutal and horrific actions of America's military in hopes of bringing the carnage to an end.

For his compassion and support of non-american citizens getting raped by his military each day, he gets tortured to retardation.

Really raped by US Troops - Any proof other than what you consider thought?

Quote: Originally Posted by Johnnny View Post

Unfortunately folks traitors must be dealt with harshly. Because if we just slap one on the wrist more people will just follow suit. I do feel bad for this kid but in the end he is a traitor.

Does not mean he has to be isolated - Does not mean he cannot see family - innocent until proven otherwise correct - If found guilty then the courts decide - Not you - The legal system.
 
Johnnny
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Does not mean he has to be isolated - Does not mean he cannot see family - innocent until proven otherwise correct - If found guilty then the courts decide - Not you - The legal system.

I guess i can throw away all those legal papers i was preparing for his trial. Iam after all a part time prosecuter on the side. Damn, i cant comment on the situation, i do feel bad for the kid but in the end he is a traitor.

It is pretty evident he did something wrong especially since his hacker buddy ratted him out. Personally a bullet in the head would end his suffering, and what about if he wasnt caught imagine the suffering he would have caused towards his own countrymen...
 
BaalsTears
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Rumor has it Obama is personally using a cattle prod on Pvt. Manning. Obama will get to the bottom of this.
 
Goober
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Quote: Originally Posted by Johnnny View Post

I guess i can throw away all those legal papers i was preparing for his trial. Iam after all a part time prosecuter on the side. Damn, i cant comment on the situation, i do feel bad for the kid but in the end he is a traitor.

It is pretty evident he did something wrong especially since his hacker buddy ratted him out. Personally a bullet in the head would end his suffering, and what about if he wasnt caught imagine the suffering he would have caused towards his own countrymen...

Not hard to see why you are part time - Pretty evident - use that in court and the judge would have your nuts.
 
Johnnny
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Quote:

Not hard to see why you are part time - Pretty evident - use that in court and the judge would have your nuts.

Im not in a court room and i know the difference between some old guy on a website and a judge in the courtroom. Your getting the star treatment from me now.. Your the one who got all grouchy at a reasonable statement i posted originally. Mr Grouchy..... Id call you Goofer but i have respect for my elders.
 
Unforgiven
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Hey! That should swing the Republican vote!

Well what exactly are movement and sleep restrictions in this context?

I don't agree with torture at all, if they won't talk leave them in segregation with minimal contact until they choose to talk about their misdeeds and then base relief on what that's worth. Obama is responsible just like Bush is for his part in this. People should be making their voices heard. We need to work with the information we can gather but no at any price.
 
PoliticalNick
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Quote: Originally Posted by Unforgiven View Post

Hey! That should swing the Republican vote!

Well what exactly are movement and sleep restrictions in this context?

I don't agree with torture at all, if they won't talk leave them in segregation with minimal contact until they choose to talk about their misdeeds and then base relief on what that's worth. Obama is responsible just like Bush is for his part in this. People should be making their voices heard. We need to work with the information we can gather but no at any price.

I see, physical torture is wrong but mental torture is quite ok as long as it gets them to give up their right to silence.
 
Goober
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Quote: Originally Posted by Johnnny View Post

Im not in a court room and i know the difference between some old guy on a website and a judge in the courtroom. Your getting the star treatment from me now.. Your the one who got all grouchy at a reasonable statement i posted originally. Mr Grouchy..... Id call you Goofer but i have respect for my elders.

Let me see, according to your profile your are 26 - that implies 2 possibilities - You are very intelligent and passed the bar well before the average age - or you are bull****ting.
As to your interpretation of Star treatment, it needs work, a lot of work. You clearly have demonstrated a failing that if you did indeed complete law school and pass the bar of rushing to judgment.

As to your respect, i do not need or require it. So please share that with someone who gives a shyt about your respect.

Myself, my opinion is your are living proof that you have a lot to learn. That is not an insult. Though that is in the next comment.

I certainly hope you do not fuk like that. Rushing along like you have.
 
Johnnny
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I see you have taken a liking to me. Has this been building up for a longtime? Of course i was bull****ting, cause i was being sarcastic to your reply cause your coming off as a grouchy old man. I know i have lots to learn and obviously so do you, so please save me the lesson socrates. Your taking something and turning it into a personal attack (with your **** you blah blah blah). That is not the sign of a wise man but a foolish old man. Cause you have resorted to swearing and insults.

You obviously have a problem with me and not with what i said.
Last edited by Johnnny; Mar 11th, 2011 at 11:27 PM..
 
BaalsTears
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This kid is doomed. It doesn't matter who is in power. The forces arrayed against Manning will end up putting him in prison where he will be killed by other prisoners. That's reality. He will serve as an example of what happens to uniformed personnel who betray their country.
 
Colpy
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Quote: Originally Posted by PoliticalNick View Post

I see, physical torture is wrong but mental torture is quite ok as long as it gets them to give up their right to silence.


What mental torture?

He hasn't been allowed to snuggle with his Mommy? No one reads him bedtime stories? Or is his self-esteem being damaged by the proximity of big, nasty brutes in uniform? Or perhaps there is a jarring clash in the colour scheme of his cell?

Give it a break.

I have NO tolerance for torture at any time, for any reason. Torture usually means the laying on of hands, some physical abuse. Yes, water-boarding is torture, as is severe sleep deprivation, starvation, or extreme exposure to noise.


Mild forms of psychological pressure are NOT torture.

Isolation is not torture.

Taunting is not torture.

Mild sleep deprivation is not torture.

Mild humiliation is not torture.

Bradley Manning is NOT being tortured.

The fact is, it appears the man simply is mentally fragile. Big surprise there. I guess he shouldn't have done the crime if he can't do the time.
 
Johnnny
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The fact is, it appears the man simply is mentally fragile. Big surprise there. I guess he shouldn't have done the crime if he can't do the time.

thats the truth
 
Trotz
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Quote: Originally Posted by BaalsTears View Post

This kid is doomed. It doesn't matter who is in power. The forces arrayed against Manning will end up putting him in prison where he will be killed by other prisoners. That's reality. He will serve as an example of what happens to uniformed personnel who betray their country.

Would be neat if all the Canadian parties would condemn the United States but we know it would never happen.
 
petros
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Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmack View Post

I bet he will get life just like the Walkers did. Passing Confidential files to WikiLeaks is no different than giving them to a foreign country.

So why is Bill Clinton still walking around free?