Quote: Originally Posted by Goober
USA - Good - Bad and or the Ugly
I have seen many anti US comments on CanCons threads - Yes they have done some nasty things - same as the USSR- China - and a number of other countries.
So a couple of questions:
So has the US done anything good for the world in the last 100 years -1910 to present
What would the world look like if the USA did not have the economic and military power that they have.
PS - Every powerful country through out history has wielded their power - No exception for the US - USSR - now Russia China.
“War Is the Continuation of Politics by Other Means”
Lets have at er. Eh
Goober, sure Canadians like to criticize USA, I am one of them. But I have also said in the past, that it is important to keep these things in perspective. I criticize USA because of its innate conservative, puritan nature, because of the excesses it commits internationally.
However, both USA and Canada (and indeed, the developed world) are motivated by the same world view, tolerance, multiculturalism equal rights for everybody, freedom of speech, religion and so on. We differ in the interpretation; we do not differ in the basic goals.
Thus, in Canada equal rights of everybody means that gays must be permitted to marry, in USA equal rights are not interpreted that way. But the commitment to equal rights is still there, unlike make countries in the world.
So let us say that when it comes to human rights, minority rights, civil rights, civil society etc., Canada is around 95 (on a scale of 100), let us say USA is around 85. But Saudi Arabia or Cuba would be around 5 or 10, Russia perhaps around 50 and so on (this is a strictly arbitrary scale, made up by me).
Thus gays may not be permitted to marry in USA, but they are not stoned to death (as they may be in Saudi Arabia or Iran).
We criticize USA for not achieving the last 10 or 15 points. But perhaps you are right, we rarely give USA the credit for achieving the 85 in the first place.