Rates of violence continue to go down


mentalfloss
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Be happy.










The annual data on war death figures have come out from the Uppsala Conflict Data Program, and it is down for 2015 compared to 2014. The same is true for killings of unarmed civilians. The rate is still higher than it was a decade ago — mostly due to the Syrian civil war — but still far lower than it was in the 1950s, 60s, 70s, and 80s.

The reversal of the increase over the preceding three years is not quite good news, but not as bad news as one might have feared—namely that the world would see a continuing rise.

There has probably been a slight increase in the rate of violent crime in the US in 2015, but even then that wouldn’t even be as high as it was in 2012, just three years ago, and that itself is a huge decrease in the levels of '60s, '70, and '80s in the US, where violent crime has fallen by more than half. So there is probably an uptick for 2015 and 2016. But it’s just a wiggle in a curve that’s been going down, down, down.

Even if you even compare the situation this year to a random year in the 1970s or 1980s, by every measure our world is much more peaceful.

The rate of death in homicides far exceeds the rate of death in terrorism at a local level, and for that matter, in wars. More people die in homicides than in wars globally by far.

The rates of terrorism in Western Europe, according to the Global Terrorism Database, were much higher from 1972 to 1992 than they were in 2015, and 2015 was a terrible year for terrorism. Not that it was great in the '70s and '80s, because there were high rates of terrorism, but Europe survived and Europe will survive this round of [terror] attacks.

Terrorist movements always fail. They go out of existence. They do not achieve their strategic aims. Northern Ireland is still part of the UK, and Basque Country is still part of Spain, and Israel continues to exist … the list goes on and on.

The greatest damage that resulted from the 9/11 attacks was self-inflicted, in our individual and national overreactions to them. The psychologist Gerd Gigerenzer has shown that after 9/11, 1,500 Americans died in car accidents because they chose to drive rather than fly, unaware that a car trip of twelve miles has the same risk of death as a plane trip of three thousand miles.

http://www.vox.com/2016/8/16/1248658...rump-terrorism
Last edited by mentalfloss; Jan 4th, 2017 at 06:15 AM..
 
davesmom
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Lies, damned lies and STATISTICS!
 
Dirt
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Quote: Originally Posted by davesmom View Post

Lies, damned lies and STATISTICS!

So you have other info?


Can't be anecdotal btw.
 
Cliffy
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Quote: Originally Posted by Dirt View Post

So you have other info?


Can't be anecdotal btw.

Conservatives only like statistics when it justifies their point of view. Otherwise, they are all lies. Dave, who is masquerading as his mom, thinks anything Mentalfloss says is a lie. You are new here. You will learn to eventually weed the crap from the innuendo.
 
Dirt
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Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

Conservatives only like statistics when it justifies their point of view. Otherwise, they are all lies. Dave, who is masquerading as his mom, thinks anything Mentalfloss says is a lie. You are new here. You will learn to eventually weed the crap from the innuendo.

Lol....Libs don't like facts either.

They don't....it's fricking ridiculous....both sides.

No one has facts on their side.
 
mentalfloss
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The difference is that 'conservatives' are typically an identifiable set of people whereas 'liberals' are just anyone that conservatives hate.
 
Dirt
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Quote: Originally Posted by mentalfloss View Post

The difference is that 'conservatives' are typically an identifiable set of people whereas 'liberals' are just anyone that conservatives hate.

Wrong....so wrong.

I know people from both sides..btw...people who get off their asses and do things for humanity.

Which is not a right or left thing.
 
mentalfloss
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Right...so right.

Cuz why not?
 
davesmom
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The people who put out those so-called facts are hardly ever correct. You don't have to have a chart to tell you that the world is more violent now than it has been in many years.
 
mentalfloss
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No evidence to support your position, davesmom.
 
Dirt
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Quote: Originally Posted by davesmom View Post

The people who put out those so-called facts are hardly ever correct. You don't have to have a chart to tell you that the world is more violent now than it has been in many years.

Yes...because it's how you feeeeeel...right?

Oh brother...
 
davesmom
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We all have a right to our own opinions for sure. I prefer to believe what I see happening rather than what others tell me is happening.
When terrorists are mowing down people at the rate of 30, 40, ..........75 per day around the world, added to the usual random murders, don't try to tell me that violence is decreasing.
 
mentalfloss
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Violence is decreasing.
 
Remington1
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Depends on the definition of worldwide!! I would say that Aleppo alone must constitute a whole stats full of new casualties. Or maybe terrorist attacks and war zone are not considered part of their stats on violence!!
 
mentalfloss
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QUIETLY, AMID the carnage and chaos in the daily news, 2016 shaped up as a good year for peace in the world. You read that right. A significant escalation of war over the past few years is, at the moment, abating.

For nearly two-thirds of a century, from 1945 to 2011, war had been in overall decline. The global death rate had fallen from 22 per 100,000 people to 0.3. But then the Syrian civil war became the bloodiest conflict in a generation, with hundreds of thousands killed, millions displaced, and multiple foreign powers joining the fight or supporting their proxies. The UN Security Council deadlocked on what to do about it, and eventually ISIS carved out a territory and enlarged it into Iraq and beyond.

New wars cropped up elsewhere. The world’s youngest country, South Sudan, fell into grotesque tribal violence. Nigeria lost territory to Boko Haram, with its penchant for kidnapping girls and other ways of brutalizing civilians. A Christian-Muslim divide in the Central African Republic devolved into a horrific civil war. Russia grabbed Crimea from Ukraine in flagrant violation of international law. An inept Saudi bombing campaign has devastated Yemen, while Libya has split into pieces controlled by armed groups including ISIS. To top it off, in several countries, Islamist militants carry out spectacles of bombing and shooting. By 2014 (the most recent year with complete data), the death rate had climbed to 1.4 per 100,000 — still far lower than in the Cold War years, but a troubling U-turn from the world’s peaceward course.

But, mercifully, as the major wars have died down, new ones have not sprung up in their place. Of special note is the continuing absence of wars between the world’s uniformed national armies. These forces exceed 20 million soldiers and are armed to the teeth. Yet the last sustained war between these armies was in 2003, in Iraq. Today’s skirmishes between countries, such as the recent Armenia-Azerbaijan flare-up, the Turkish downing of a Russian plane, and the incidents between North and South Korea, kill dozens of people rather than the hundreds of thousands, or millions, that died in the all-out wars that nation-states have fought throughout history, such as the Iran-Iraq and India-Pakistan wars.

The geography of war is also shrinking. This year’s cease-fire between Colombia and the FARC guerrillas ended the last active political armed conflict in the Western Hemisphere. The Americas thus join Western Europe and East Asia as major regions of the globe that have moved from pervasive war to enduring peace.

In fact, virtually all the war in the world is now confined to an arc stretching from Nigeria to Pakistan, which contains less than a sixth of the world’s population. We are hardly, as pessimists like to say, a “world at war.” Of course, the world continues to suffer from other forms of violence: terrorist bombings that kill dozens, drug gangs that kill thousands, and homicides that kill hundreds of thousands. But the latest inroads against a major category of violence — war — after five years in which it had lurched in the wrong direction, deserves our attention and gratitude.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/...zkL/story.html
 
Johnnny
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The author forgot Myanmar, even the UN is getting involved. And just one sentence talking about Yemen, thats weak.
 
mentalfloss
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You know what's weak...
 
Johnnny
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Quote: Originally Posted by mentalfloss View Post

You know what's weak...

Groups like BLM who are saying that cops in Canada are killing minorities and are a threat to nonwhites when in fact the stats prove that violence is either going down or doesnt exist to the extreme like they preach.
 
mentalfloss
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You think people will believe your claim that those two things can't be mutually exclusive?
 
Johnnny
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Quote: Originally Posted by mentalfloss View Post

You think people will believe your claim that those two things can't be mutually exclusive?

But the swimming pool in the backyard is more dangerous to a nonwhite in Canada than a cop in Canada.
 
mentalfloss
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You clearly believe that snarky, false equivalent remarks are convincing.

Cute.
 
Johnnny
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Quote: Originally Posted by mentalfloss View Post

You clearly believe that snarky, false equivalent remarks are convincing.

Cute.

So what a nonwhite guy gets shot by the cops in Canada and your in an uproar. But a truck drives through a market full of people and you tell people its not a big deal.

And im the one who is ****ed?

Cute
 
mentalfloss
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No, I'm fine with both if they happen sparingly enough.

We all know cop violence is a huge problem in the states but terrorism there, not so much.
 
Johnnny
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Quote: Originally Posted by mentalfloss View Post

No, I'm fine with both if they happen sparingly enough.

Until of course it happens to someone you know. But hey if your fine with at least one truck driving through a market crowded with people then clearly im the one who is acting cute.
 
davesmom
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Common sense dictates that as the population increases so does everything else and crime is no exception. Society is not getting more peaceful, it is getting more hostile, discontented and pugnacious. So it doesn't make sense to say that crime is decreasing.
It's possible that people don't report crime as regularly as they once did and that police don't always respond to reports. That may make it appear that crime is decreasing.
 
Curious Cdn
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Quote: Originally Posted by davesmom View Post

Common sense dictates that as the population increases so does everything else and crime is no exception. Society is not getting more peaceful, it is getting more hostile, discontented and pugnacious. So it doesn't make sense to say that crime is decreasing.
It's possible that people don't report crime as regularly as they once did and that police don't always respond to reports. That may make it appear that crime is decreasing.

Are you a victim of crime?
 
davesmom
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Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

Are you a victim of crime?


No. But I have witnessed crimes that were not reported or recorded.
I scared off a gang of teenagers who were beating up on a black kid in front of my house. That was never reported.
I reported a gang of teenagers smashing a car in a parking lot. The police never showed up.
I know of a couple of women in town whose husbands/boyfriends beat them up occasionally. That never gets reported.
Road rage rarely gets reported unless someone is badly injured.
 
Ron in Regina
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I'm white, & I understand that every interaction with police is
potentially fatal. Govern yourself accordingly.

My city has gotten meaner. Gun violence was almost unheard
of a decade ago. Only once or twice a year. Now its several
times a week. Statistics say crime rates are dropping? Great!
I'm not seeing that locally. Machette attacks ten years ago? That
was something that happened in Africa & not Regina, but not
anymore....

Personally, I felt safer in a barrio in Playa with a bit of a buzz
on after dark while hunting for the Collectivo Depot than on
many streets or parks or downtown in the city I live in after
dark, stone cold sober.

PS I'm not a paranoid little old lady. I'm 6'2" & 200lbs, and until
this last year a labouror with appitite & fitness level there of.
 
darkbeaver
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Global Terrorism Database!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Fuk Off! The worlds premier terrorism comes from the monied class, those at the apex of aquizition, those hereditary parrasites.
 
mentalfloss
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Trump's exaggerated claim that John Lewis' district is 'falling apart' and 'crime infested' | PolitiFact
 

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