WE really need to get rid of this guy

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Maybe they should make the public service administer a program they have said they cannot administer.

That would mean climate change is a hoax and only white people face discrimination, or something
 

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Bill Morneau has to go, he is done like the turkey he is.
Besides being stupid and tone deaf, he has run the largest debt/deficit in Canadian history.


Chaggar and Telford should also be on the chopping block. Chaggar because she doesn't have the brains to think for herself. Telford, though she does have the brains, did not use them when she should have advised her dear leader to sit this one out. That's what seniors advisors do. She didn't.
 

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Here is Steven Harper advertising himself as a speaker during the time he was a back bencher after Trudeau destroyed him in the election.
His fee for US dates?
Min. $75,000 to $149,999
Harper lost to Trudeau in 2015, then he left politics (gave up his House of Commons seat) in August of 2016. The LINK you posted is for the here & now, and has nothing to do with his timeframe in Parliament. I’ve looked & I can’t find anything to back up your claim, but maybe that’s just me. Do you have anything to back up your claim (?) that Harper was doing paid speaking engagements while he was still an PM as that would have been quite unethical....?
 
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In other words the public service selected the We charity and informed the cabinet that it was We or nothing.

In retrospect it was WE and nothing - except for some small political gain for the opposition
Yes Ms . Wernick (remember that name .) agrees to be thrown under for a senate appointment , cicvil service in Liberal Canadu.
 

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Harper lost to Trudeau in 2015, then he left politics (gave up his House of Commons seat) in August of 2016. The LINK you posted is for the hear & now, and has nothing to do with his timeframe in Parliament. I’ve looked & I can’t find anything to back up your claim, but maybe that’s just me. Do you have anything to back up your claim (?) that Harper was doing paid speaking engagements while he was still an PM as that would have been quite unethical....?
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Ron, Wasnt it nice of him to prove your contention that Harper was not PM when he offered himself for speaking engagements?
 

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It has been highly entertaining Ron.........getting to watch those two squirming in their chairs,
Body language shows they are guilty or really have to take a shit. Did either lift a cheek to squeak out a pressure fart? Not that I saw. That leaves guilt.
 

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The only thing that matters is to attack Trudeau for any amount of political gain.


The only thing that matters is that if we allow politicians to get away with bullshit like this we are screwing ourselves. There has to be a minimum standard and this idiot isn't even trying to make the grade.
 

Ron in Regina

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Maybe they should make the public service administer a program they have said they cannot administer.

That would mean climate change is a hoax and only white people face discrimination, or something
The Public Service DIDN'T say they can't administer this program:
Is the public service sector saying that they selected WE over themselves as the only entity that could deal with this Program (?) http://psacunion.ca/why-government-contracting-out-public-service-jobs because it doesn't sound like it here (?) but this is so July 2nd, 2020.
Yes.

In front of the entire cabinet.
Please point out the "Public Service Sector" in the below picture that stated that they 'couldn't administer' the CSSG Program in front of the entire cabinet please:



PSAC is alarmed by the government’s unexpected decision to outsource administration of the Canada Student Service Grant (CSSG) program to the WE Charity. The administration of national programs is the responsibility of public service workers and they are specialized in that work. Moreover, the federal public service has extensive experience with administering a wide range of programs targeted at youth and students.

Since the pandemic began the federal public service has clearly demonstrated that it can implement newly announced government programs promptly and scale them up quickly. “Mr. Trudeau’s claim that WE Charity is theonly one’ that can administer the new grant program is not only factually wrong, it’s also insulting to our members,” said PSAC National President Chris Aylward. “PSAC members have worked hard to support the government’s rapidly evolving response to the pandemic and remain committed to continuing doing so.”


  1. Keeping administration of the CSSG public would support accountability, oversight and proper handling of private applicant information. It would also ensure that the workers administering the grant are themselves compensated fairly.” PSAC calls on the government to fully explain how it reached its decision to contract out the CSSG to the WE Charity and commit to keeping the administration of all government programs public. This doesn't sound like they're claiming they couldn't administer this program.

  1. The claim of "WE Charity is theonly one’ that can administer the new grant program" seems to trace back to a 'Rachel Warnick' (the sister of Micheal Warnick from the SNC Scandal) who is the 'Senior Deputy Misister of the Department of Employment & Social Development Canada' and then that was carried forward as if it was a fact by Chagger and then Trudeau as if it was a fact issued by the Public Service which it never was.
  2. Maybe they should make the public service administer a program they have said they cannot administer.

    That would mean climate change is a hoax and only white people face discrimination, or something
    Or something indeed.
 

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Here is Steven Harper advertising himself as a speaker during the time he was a back bencher after Trudeau destroyed him in the election.

His fee for US dates?

Min. $75,000 to $149,999
Harper lost to Trudeau in 2015, then he left politics (gave up his House of Commons seat) in August of 2016. The LINK you posted is for the here & now, and has nothing to do with his timeframe in Parliament. I’ve looked & I can’t find anything to back up your claim, but maybe that’s just me. Do you have anything to back up your claim (?) that Harper was doing paid speaking engagements while he was still an PM as that would have been quite unethical....?
Here's the only sitting MP (PM or or just sitting MP) that I can find that charged speaking fee's (to charities or other groups): http://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/just...harities-that-paid-him-to-fundraise-1.1327704
(Trudeau was elected for the first time in the 2008 federal election. He was the nominee for the Liberal Party in the electoral area of Papineau) In his comments Sunday, Trudeau said he wants to maintain the high level of transparency that Canadians expect of him. “I’m willing to pay all the money back, if that’s what it comes to,” Trudeau said during an interview with CTV’s Question Period. Then an apology, then once he becomes the leader of the liberal party & eventually the PM, the moneys go to his family members instead in the spirit of transparency.
 

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The only thing that matters is that if we allow politicians to get away with bullshit like this we are screwing ourselves. There has to be a minimum standard and this idiot isn't even trying to make the grade.
Bullshit like this.

A good way to put it
 

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Here's the only sitting MP (PM or or just sitting MP) that I can find that charged speaking fee's (to charities or other groups): http://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/just...harities-that-paid-him-to-fundraise-1.1327704
(Trudeau was elected for the first time in the 2008 federal election. He was the nominee for the Liberal Party in the electoral area of Papineau) In his comments Sunday, Trudeau said he wants to maintain the high level of transparency that Canadians expect of him. “I’m willing to pay all the money back, if that’s what it comes to,” Trudeau said during an interview with CTV’s Question Period. Then an apology, then once he becomes the leader of the liberal party & eventually the PM, the moneys go to his family members instead in the spirit of transparency.
Ron, politicians get paid to speak.
WTF is wrong with you?
 

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Here is Steven Harper advertising himself as a speaker during the time he was a back bencher after Trudeau destroyed him in the election.
:lol: 39.5% Oh yeah, real destruction.

His fee for US dates?

Min. $75,000 to $149,999
Oooo nice whataboutism. To bad it's got f*ck all to do with Groper's corruption and complete lack of ethics. Hmmm I seem to recall during the run up to the 2015 election Prince Groper promising a more open and transparent govt. Funny how that campaign promise being shattered to hell isn't an issue for you, even though in the very recent past you have placed GREAT importance on promises made during a campaign.


And to think the Liberals and their ass-sucking sycophants pissed and moaned about a $16 glass dollar orange juice.
 

Ron in Regina

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Ron, politicians get paid to speak.
WTF is wrong with you?
Politicians get paid to speak to the public with publicly funded tax dollars. It's their salary.

Politicians getting paid to speak by private groups & charities while still sitting politicians collecting their public salary is a different animal all together, but I think we both know that.

Politicians accepting gifts or funding to their friends, family, or themselves to speak by private groups & charities is beyond anything that might be a 'grey area,' & Politicians accepting gifts or funding to their friends, family, or themselves that influence their decisions in spending public moneys would be a criminal matter at best.
 

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The public service cannot administer it.
Uhh yeah. As Head of the Federal Public Service, the Clerk ensures that the Government of Canada is equipped to design and deliver high-quality programs and services to and for Canadians. Failure #1.



Failure #2.) How exactly could an organization that was in trouble with its bankers, had much of its assets tied up in real estate and laid off most of its employees deliver a $912-million program?
And how is it that the top public servants never wondered why the board of WE Charity had recently resigned and been replaced or why it reported in its 2019 financial statements that it had breached its bank covenants?


Easy, the top public servants are Groper cronies and WE was going tits up. A nice infusion of cash would have kept it afloat.


And finally, why the hell were the Trudeau's taking money from a charity for appearances? Mr "Woke" and family think they should be paid hundreds of thousands of dollars from charities they speak at. That's not very charitable. Especially when fees were STILL being paid AFTER Groper became PM.


So to sum up, you shit your britches every time Trump sneezes but our own PM now caught 3 times in a conflict of interest situation, (along with his attempt to obstruct justice), a Finance Minister now caught twice in a conflict of interest situation, with neither of them learning a goddam thing since their first one because a $500 fine per incident is a complete f*cking joke. Groper would have to speak at a WE charity event for 3 minutes to make that back. Poor guy.
 
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Here is Trudeau's testimony -

https://globalnews.ca/news/7237777/trudeau-we-charity-takeaways/

Trudeau said he had originally expected the Canada Service Corps to deliver the program, which would have given grants to students and graduates for volunteering to help with lost job opportunities due to the COVID-19 pandemic-related shutdown.

However, the public service advised the Canada Service Corps, a youth volunteer service program created by the Liberals in 2018, was unable to scale up fast enough to deliver the emergency grant program in time to help students affected by the struggling economy this year.

That’s why the public service came back on May 21 to reaffirm its recommendation that WE was the only organization that could run the student-volunteer program, Trudeau said.

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Now, if this is not true then every member of that cabinet is aware of the lie, because he learned of it at the same time and place as they did.

Does it matter that right wing fanatics are lying about this on the internet.

No.

The only thing that matters is attacking Trudeau for the slightest political gain.

That's why you are all so laughable.
 

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