The CBC is more anti-American than the state-broadcaster in Iran

Dixie Cup

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The CBC is incredibly bad at "trying" to show no bias but, of course, they are, extremely so. I rarely watch CBC with the exception of a couple of shows they have that I actually enjoy watching so I PVR them. Otherwise, I can't be bothered to watch. They are terrible at providing the news and facts - they're pretty much all propaganda for whatever the Liberals/Left want. Guess they don't realize that even Canadians have varying points of view and they don't necessarily agree with the garbage spewed by the CBC.


And, as an aside, anyone I know who listens regularly to CBC either radio or TV have a skewed version of what is actually happening in the world and it's quite fascinating to listen to their version of events. It can be a real "head shaker" that's for sure!
 

Blackleaf

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So the CBS is like the BBC, then. A lefty bias, when it's supposed to be impartial.
 

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Chris Selley: After Harper misquote, 'regime change' needed in some Canadian newsrooms

CBC’s and CTV’s newsrooms published rather important “clarifications” to online news stories on Tuesday afternoon, the main point of which was that Stephen Harper never uttered the phrase “regime change” at an international policy gabfest in New Delhi. The topic was Iran and its shooting down of a Ukrainian airliner with 176 souls aboard, the vast majority of whom were heading to Canada, and 57 of whom were Canadian citizens.

The public broadcaster’s original headline, “Former prime minister Stephen Harper says peace in the Middle East will only come if there is regime change in Iran,” became “former prime minister Stephen Harper says peace in the Middle East will only come after change comes to Iran.”

Meanwhile CTV’s headline, “Harper calls for Iranian regime change in wake of downed jet,” became “Harper speaks out on Iran in wake of downed jet.”

These are indeed clarifying. Many in the journalism industry would suggest the problem called for the more serious “correction,” however. As everyone involved in the story, the headlines and the associated tweets will have known, “regime change” has a very specific and very portentous meaning.

The Cambridge dictionary defines it as “a complete change of government, especially one brought about by force.” Collins, if you prefer, says it’s “the transition from one political regime to another, especially through concerted political or military action.”

Other dictionaries broadly agree, as do most normal people. Thus roughly 100 per cent of people who saw the headline and didn’t read the article — which is most people, and about 98 per cent of Twitter users — assumed Harper had advocated military intervention in Iran. Many vented their fury at him accordingly.

Harper did not advocate military intervention in Iran, or indeed any particular intervention whatsoever. Despite describing Iran (accurately) as an “anti-Semitic state” premised on “religious fanaticism and regional imperialism” that is standing resolutely in the way of cooperation between other Middle Eastern nations, Harper didn’t even advocate “a complete change of government.”

“I do believe we need to see a change in Iran if we are going to see peace in the Middle East,” he said.

“Without a change in the nature of the government of Tehran,” he said, “the Middle East will continue to be in turmoil.”

He said he hoped the furious protests in Iran might nudge the country toward “a better trajectory.”

These are perfectly anodyne statements. Who doesn’t want the Iranian regime to alter its behaviour?

Clarification or correction? I would say this calls for something more like “colossal embarrassment necessitating deep introspection.”

The root problem, I think, is that so much of Canadian politics is purely for show. We are a sparsely populated, not very powerful nation where the differences between the two major federal parties are remarkably small — and thus so are the stakes. It requires special measures to keep people interested, as much for the media as for politicians.

In the last campaign journalists created endless scandal out of Conservative leader Andrew Scheer’s perfectly reasonable and simple position on abortion, spent most of a morning press conference in Winnipeg asking if it was appropriate for Scheer to be there in light of area flooding, and asked Scheer 14 times at a press conference in Toronto whether his campaign had hired a certain consulting firm to dig up dirt on Maxime Bernier.

The big story on that last occasion? Scheer refusing more than a dozen times to say whether his campaign hired a consulting firm to dig up dirt on Maxime Bernier. (“And so what if it did?” went largely unanswered.)

That’s how the big outlets like CBC and CTV make the sausage of the day, and it’s understandable. They do great investigative work, but the beast needs feeding not just every day, but all day every day. During the campaign I would watch colleagues set up for live hits in various parking lots and back yards and sometimes even on the campaign bus, and imagine them speaking the truth: “I’m here in Delta, B.C. and there’s f–k-all to report. Back to you, Kent.” But the viewers must never know. They need drama, as weak as it might be. I can easily imagine how that principle transformed “a changed regime” into “regime change.”

The real problem with this reporting regime is when it’s applied to things that actually do matter. There are serious potential consequences to telling the world that Stephen Harper thinks, in essence, that we should declare war on Iran with an eye to bouncing the ayatollahs. Harper’s successor and his government are in the midst of an extremely delicate and frankly improbable operation to find out precisely what happened the morning of Jan. 8 in the skies above Tehran and seek justice for the victims and their families. Those families don’t deserve fake news about a warmongering former PM, and I’m sure our diplomats would prefer members of the unchanged Iranian regime didn’t come across it either.

This isn’t a Canadian federal election. It’s real life, and needs to be covered as such.


nationalpost.com/opinion/chris-selley-after-harper-misquote-regime-change-needed-in-some-canadian-newsrooms
 

Danbones

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The real problem with this reporting regime is when it’s applied to things that actually do matter. There are serious potential consequences to telling the world that Stephen Harper thinks, in essence, that we should declare war on Iran with an eye to bouncing the ayatollahs. Harper’s successor and his government are in the midst of an extremely delicate and frankly improbable operation to find out precisely what happened the morning of Jan. 8 in the skies above Tehran and seek justice for the victims and their families. Those families don’t deserve fake news about a warmongering former PM, and I’m sure our diplomats would prefer members of the unchanged Iranian regime didn’t come across it either.

This isn’t a Canadian federal election. It’s real life, and needs to be covered as such.

BRAVO Mowich, Bravo.
 

Gilgamesh

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BRAVO Mowich, Bravo.
Which PM was a warmonger? Certainly not Harper. What a silly suggestion. To be fair, Trudeau is not a warmonger either. He is way too busy destroying Canada's economy.

The only warmonger in this instance is the rabid murderous Islamic theocracy in Iran.
 

spilledthebeer

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Which PM was a warmonger? Certainly not Harper. What a silly suggestion. To be fair, Trudeau is not a warmonger either. He is way too busy destroying Canada's economy.

The only warmonger in this instance is the rabid murderous Islamic theocracy in Iran.








TRUE DAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


IT IS A SAD FACT that our LIE-beral loving media whores DELIGHT in miss-quoting Stephen Harper..........................


and any other Conservative minded leader that sticks his head up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And however LIE-berals want to spin it - the HARD FACT IS that Iran is the major destabilizing force in the Middle East today!!!!!!!!!!!!!


By comparison - Israel HAS MADE PEACE with Jordan and with Egypt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Relations between those three are running so smoothly that Israeli tourists frequently travel...................................


to Egyptian Red Sea resorts for holidays.........................................


and Jordan and Israel are cooperating on water conservation programs for rivers that flow through both their territories!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


In the past - Israel has demolished Israeli "settler communities" being built on disputed lands ........................................


in order to win HONEST POINTS with their Muslim neighbours - the ones who HONESTLY WANT PEACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


It is Iran and its proxy armies and fellow travellers from Hezbollah and Hamas, Al Qaida and ISIS and others........................


that are stirring up all the trouble!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Iran and Saudia Arabia do NOT share a border .................................


yet Iran is sponsoring rebel groups in Yemen - against BOTH the Yemen govt and against Saudi Arabia........................


and Yemen DOES SHARE a border with Saudi Arabia!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Iran DOES NOT CARE about he hundreds of thousands of Yemenese people in danger of starvation.....................


due to the proxy war Iran is fighting there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



It is Iran and the Russians who are sponsoring terror in Syria and supporting the dictator ASAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



And it was iranian general Suleimani who was the GUIDING HAND in all this Iranian terror and endless WAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Only a LIE-beral "Useful Idiot" would condemn Yankees for killing Suleimani!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


To blame Yankees for Middle East tension is to signal total LIE-beral CONTEMPT for western values!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But then Our idiot Boy Justin HAS ALREADY DONE THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


When he told us "HE ADMIRED THE BASIC CHINESE DEMOCRACY"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And in UGLY RELATED NEWS - Pierre Trudope wrote of "THE GENIUS OF CHINESE CHAIRMAN MAO IN RUSHING 30 MILLION



CHINESE PEASANTS TO THE GALLOWS"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Nothing quite reveals the LIE-beral status as a complete ASSHAT quite like that enthusiasm.......................................


for state sponsored mass murder!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

spilledthebeer

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TRUE DAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


IT IS A SAD FACT that our LIE-beral loving media whores DELIGHT in miss-quoting Stephen Harper..........................


and any other Conservative minded leader that sticks his head up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And however LIE-berals want to spin it - the HARD FACT IS that Iran is the major destabilizing force in the Middle East today!!!!!!!!!!!!!


By comparison - Israel HAS MADE PEACE with Jordan and with Egypt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Relations between those three are running so smoothly that Israeli tourists frequently travel...................................


to Egyptian Red Sea resorts for holidays.........................................


and Jordan and Israel are cooperating on water conservation programs for rivers that flow through both their territories!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


In the past - Israel has demolished Israeli "settler communities" being built on disputed lands ........................................


in order to win HONEST POINTS with their Muslim neighbours - the ones who HONESTLY WANT PEACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


It is Iran and its proxy armies and fellow travellers from Hezbollah and Hamas, Al Qaida and ISIS and others........................


that are stirring up all the trouble!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Iran and Saudia Arabia do NOT share a border .................................


yet Iran is sponsoring rebel groups in Yemen - against BOTH the Yemen govt and against Saudi Arabia........................


and Yemen DOES SHARE a border with Saudi Arabia!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Iran DOES NOT CARE about he hundreds of thousands of Yemenese people in danger of starvation.....................


due to the proxy war Iran is fighting there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



It is Iran and the Russians who are sponsoring terror in Syria and supporting the dictator ASAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



And it was iranian general Suleimani who was the GUIDING HAND in all this Iranian terror and endless WAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Only a LIE-beral "Useful Idiot" would condemn Yankees for killing Suleimani!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


To blame Yankees for Middle East tension is to signal total LIE-beral CONTEMPT for western values!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But then Our idiot Boy Justin HAS ALREADY DONE THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


When he told us "HE ADMIRED THE BASIC CHINESE DEMOCRACY"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And in UGLY RELATED NEWS - Pierre Trudope wrote of "THE GENIUS OF CHINESE CHAIRMAN MAO IN RUSHING 30 MILLION



CHINESE PEASANTS TO THE GALLOWS"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Nothing quite reveals the LIE-beral status as a complete ASSHAT quite like that enthusiasm.......................................


for state sponsored mass murder!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!








In related news about "peace loving" LIE-berals...........................


IS IT NOT IRONIC that it was LIE-beral PM Mackenzie King who led Canada into WW2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



And it was LIE-beral Chretien who set up Cdn soldiers to be Serbian targets in Srebrinitza.................................



and the Medac Pocket!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And it was Chretien who FORBADE CDNS from defending themselves when fired on by Serbian forces!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



And it was Chretien who TRIED AND FAILED to get hopelessly obsolete Cdn fighter jets involved in the Kosovo bombing campaign!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And it was LIE-beral Chretien who sent Cdns off to Afghanistan as well!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals are the MOST STUPID OF WAR MONGERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


THEY HABITUALLY SEND CDNS OFF WITH NO EQUIPMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

spilledthebeer

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TRUE DAT!!!!!!!!


And in other news the racial gender and ethnic mix of the recent Virginia gun march


was MORE DIVERSE than the editorial board of the Huffington Post!!!!!!!!!!!


So the photo below:::::::
 

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