Canada's oil imports from Saudi Arabia on the rise

spilledthebeer

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No, your not.




INGRATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Girth offered what appears to be sincere condolences!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And since so many people get help from Mommy and DADDY these days.......................


his remark about your Mom is not so far off base!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Tecumsehsbones

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That's how your country will look if the Dems. get their way with the popular vote
Pete and Boomer have (1) solution, and like I said earlier (2) an EC type of system can be organized even in our Dominion, a pool of points can exist to equal the vote count of Southern Ont. or Southern Ontario and central Quebec divided up in proportion to the seat count outside the 2 most populated areas of Canada. Or (3) separate the vote like you, for MP or PM, eliminating the avoidance of the vote for the local candidate in favour of the leader of the party.
(3) Maybe the simplest solution IMO
Our Presidential electoral system is also not democratic.

You still haven't answered my question. The democratic ideal is "one person, one vote." You are looking for ways to cook the books so that westerners or some such effectively get more than one vote, whilst Ontarians and Kay-beckers get one. My question is very simple. . . how many votes do you want westerners to get? 1.2? 1.5? 2?

Or is it "whatever is needed to ensure right-wing government?"
 

Twin_Moose

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Our Presidential electoral system is also not democratic.
You still haven't answered my question. The democratic ideal is "one person, one vote." You are looking for ways to cook the books so that westerners or some such effectively get more than one vote, whilst Ontarians and Kay-beckers get one. My question is very simple. . . how many votes do you want westerners to get? 1.2? 1.5? 2?
Or is it "whatever is needed to ensure right-wing government?"

Whatever it would take to balance the power across our country and take away complete power from a couple of regions within our great country.
 

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Our Presidential electoral system is also not democratic.

You still haven't answered my question. The democratic ideal is "one person, one vote." You are looking for ways to cook the books so that westerners or some such effectively get more than one vote, whilst Ontarians and Kay-beckers get one. My question is very simple. . . how many votes do you want westerners to get? 1.2? 1.5? 2?

Or is it "whatever is needed to ensure right-wing government?"
Those are all very complicated questions . In the west our population is generally growing at a faster rate then Quebec east , our economic contribution to Confederation is generally higher . The answers are not black and white , and not a politically popular subject within the current power structure .The fact remains the west has a legitimate bitch and always have since 1867 , as the country was set up for the benifit of Upper and Lower Canada . The western discontent is not only about votes , it goes much deeper , the same for different reasons Quebec sovereignty will always simmer under the surface .
There is also the issue of over 50% of our labour going to various levels of government that always eats on any producers craw . Although that is somewhat similar throughout the country it does make people jaded .
 

spilledthebeer

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Our Presidential electoral system is also not democratic.

You still haven't answered my question. The democratic ideal is "one person, one vote." You are looking for ways to cook the books so that westerners or some such effectively get more than one vote, whilst Ontarians and Kay-beckers get one. My question is very simple. . . how many votes do you want westerners to get? 1.2? 1.5? 2?

Or is it "whatever is needed to ensure right-wing government?"




Oh dear me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


There is the usual T-bonesforbrains EVASION of truth and reality!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Cdn democracy is under attack from bribery and corruption!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Cdn LIE-berals and their civil service union HOG allies are engaged in an economy breaking and grotesque conflict of interest..........


in which HOGS sell their votes to LIE-berals in exchange for gravy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


ALL DEMOCRATIC GOVTS long ago agreed that any business with a Monopoly on some essential service NEEDED CAREFUL and



tight regulation - much more than a biz with multiple competitors!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Yet Cdn HOGS routinely try to get courts - run by LIE-beral judges - to over turn Conservative party wage deals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


HOGS claim it is a violation of THEIR RIGHTS - that elected Conservative govts.................................


should exert some control over HOG GRAVY GRABBING!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Even worse - LIE-berals are deep into third world dictator tricks in which they MAKE WORK for HOGS so they can hire and BRIBE...


and render dependent on LIE-beral gravy - as many citizens as possible in a SHAMELESS LIE-beral vote buying scandal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The LIE-beral / HOG alliance is destroying the country with its greed and hypocrisy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


All RESPONSIBLE people cheer on the Ford govt fight against teacher HOGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And why is it that a FOREIGNER like T-bonesforbraisn feels entitled to lecture Cdns about anything anyway???????????????
 

petros

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why would anyone set up a car factory in the west?
A blatant lie
In the 1920s, GM Canada was less than a decade old when it was outgrowing its manufacturing facilities in Oshawa. It had just opened an engine plant in Walkerville (now part of Windsor).

In deciding to build a second assembly plant, GM spent months looking at various locations in Western Canada, and selected Regina for several reasons.


First, Regina was centrally located for the western Canadian marketplace. Business was good in Saskatchewan. At the time, Saskatchewan was the third-most populous province behind only Ontario and Quebec. Sales of GM products were high in Saskatchewan, as the province had the highest vehicle ownership rate in Canada. As well, there was a source of labour, specifically farmers available during the winter.

GM Canada’s President R.S. (Sam) McLaughlin travelled from Oshawa to Regina when the deal was officially announced on June 1, 1928. It was front-page news in the Morning Leader under the headline “MILLION DOLLAR MOTOR PLANT FOR REGINA.”

With dignitaries on hand, McLaughlin turned the sod for the start of work on the plant.

After construction work throughout the summer and fall, the new GM plant at Winnipeg Street and 8th Avenue officially opened 90 years ago this month — on Tuesday, Dec. 11, 1928.

It was the largest industrial plant in Regina in terms of floor space (330,000 square feet) and number of employees (850).

The Regina plant was expected to produce about 30,000 vehicles each year.

Many of the senior staff were transferred from Oshawa to Regina to run the new plant. “The management and inspection staff numbers an even dozen. Then there are 12 chiefs of factory departments. Practically all of these men have seen experience in Oshawa, automobile centre of the East and headquarters for General Motors of Canada,” the Morning Leader reported.


There were jobs for 850 people at a time when Regina had about 40,000 inhabitants. With a population today of about 200,000 the impact would be like a plant with 4,250 jobs. (By comparison, the recent announcement of the shutdown of GM means the loss of 2,500 jobs in Oshawa, which has a population of 170,000.)

There was a 24-page supplement to the Morning Leader on Dec. 11, 1928, with the title “Welcome! General Motors”

The section opens by calling the GM plant “the most important announcement for Reginans since the war…the announcement meant a giant industry for Regina. It meant the employment of 850 workers. It meant the coming of other industries and other workers.”

The section includes articles about the construction of the plant, how the cars will be manufactured, the state of the auto industry in Canada and congratulatory ads from Regina businesses.

Another article entitled “BIG PLANT AT OSHAWA” says, “Now that Regina has become Western Canada’s motor city, Regina people will be interested to know something about the main General Motors of Canada plant at Oshawa, which five years ago had the same output as Regina will have. Today no less than 2,200,000 square feet of floor space or approximately 48 acres under cover, is required at the Oshawa factories of General Motors of Canada for the production of Cadillac, LaSalle, McLaughlin-Buick, Oakland, Oldsmobile, Pontiac and Chevrolet cars.”

In Oshawa, the office and factory staff totaled 6,800.

More than 1,000 Regina residents turned out for the grand opening, and they saw GM President Sam McLaughlin drive the first car off the assembly line. It was a Chevrolet, and was presented as a gift to the Regina Red Cross. This Chevrolet was powered by the first six-cylinder Chev engine manufactured in Canada, at GM’s new plant in Walkerville, now part of Windsor, Ont. This car was later put on display at Modern Motors, one of two Chevrolet dealerships in Regina.

Later in the day there was a parade through downtown Regina to celebrate the opening of the new plant.

But it was open for less than a year when the stock market crashed in October, 1929. Soon, car sales dropped off dramatically and some workers were laid off in early 1930; by August, 1930 production was halted.

In March 1931 the plant re-opened, only to be shut down again a few months later. That also led to layoffs in related industries.

As economic conditions gradually improved, GM decided to re-open the Regina plant. When production resumed in December 1937, there were jobs for 400 people — less than half the number when it first opened. Priority was given to those who had been working at the plant when it closed in 1931.

Six supervisors who had been with GM in Regina were brought back when the plant re-opened — including some from GM at Oshawa.

The GM plant in Regina was soon again turning out Buicks, Chevrolet cars and trucks, Maple Leaf trucks, Oldsmobiles and Pontiacs.Then came the Second World War.

In 1941, the plant was taken over by the federal government and re-named Regina Industries Limited. It became the largest munitions plant in Saskatchewan, and at peak production in 1943, there were 1,596 men and women working there.

After the war, there was hope the facility would be converted back to vehicle production. But automobile production techniques and distribution methods had changed dramatically from when it opened in 1928. It simply no longer made sense to build vehicles in Regina for the four western provinces.

Over the years, GM also had plants in Windsor, Scarborough (a suburb of Toronto) and Sainte-Thérèse (a suburb of Montreal), but they have all been shut down in recent years.

Today, the building that was once home to General Motors in Regina is still standing, and is home to a variety of businesses and organizations.

Regina’s connections with Oshawa continue; the Regina GM plant is part of a display at the Canadian Automotive Museum in Oshawa, and there is a Regina-made Chevrolet on display there.
 

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It simply no longer made sense to build vehicles in Regina for the four western provinces.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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Isn't that the same arguments as your swing states have with the EC?
So what if it is? The formation of the U.S. was an artifact of the place and time, and many compromises were made that in my opinion either weren't good ideas to begin with (like slavery), or are outdated and no longer relevant.

In case you missed it, my opinion is that democracy is "one person, one vote." I also favor direct national popular election of the president.

And you still haven't answered any of my questions, so I guess we're done here. Y'all have a real nice winter solstice now, hear?
 

spilledthebeer

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Probably because he is a Canadian living out a fantasy of being a lawyer from Washington. I don't trust anyone who did not cry, when Billy found his brother Frank's body on the reservation, after he committed suicide, in the movie "Running Brave."




So you are okay with some lunatic who YOU THINK...................................................


is only pretending to be a foreigner................................


lecturing Cdns and interfering in our affairs?????????????

 

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Don't shut in Canada's oil yet: We just got a wake-up call on how important our oil actually is

Just three days into a new decade Canadians woke up to a new geopolitical reality. The U.S. drone strike in Iraq that killed Iranian General Qassem Soleimani has raised fears that an escalation of the U.S.-Iran conflict could disrupt world oil supply. Policy discussions have suddenly pivoted from weaning the world from fossil fuels to hard questions about global and energy security. Some analysts argue *****Iran will back attacks on oil infrastructure in the Persian Gulf and the rest of the Middle East and maybe even on Saudi Arabia’s oil infrastructure if tensions escalate sufficiently.
The political and even military disruption that could ensue could be considerable. The oil supplies and economies of almost every country could be affected, including Canada’s. We still buy Middle Eastern oil despite our considerable domestic supplies and, of course, if the world price of oil rises, that affects everyone. The airstrike has reminded us — and it seems many of us had forgotten — that oil and gas resources are still geopolitically important.
The current Iranian regime has disrupted many countries with “proxy wars” — supporting opposing sides in conflicts in Syria, Yemen and Iraq, involving itself in disputes in Bahrain, Lebanon, Qatar, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Nigeria and Morocco, and competing more broadly in North and East Africa and parts of south and central Asia. In addition to direct disruption of Gulf infrastructure and shipping, Iran might well step up its foreign adventurism.
Over the past decade a lack of awareness or maybe even just forgetfulness about the depth of Middle East conflicts has allowed us the luxury of contemplating our own deliberate disruption of this country’s massive fossil fuel reserves. We have entertained overstatements about “climate emergencies,” we have examined scientific data only superficially and we have welcomed world-famous activists to lecture us on climate “truths.” To go along with UN climate edicts, we have politely declined to question the high real-world costs of their unrealistically tight timelines. We have indulged ourselves in setting climate targets that would severely tax our industries and workers — mainly, it seems, as a form of global virtue-signalling. And we have diverted money to a federal government that has bold climate goals but only the vaguest and most ill-defined plans for achieving them.
All that may change following the death of Gen. Soleimani. Canada’s wealth of natural resources now suddenly looks a lot more useful and valuable than it did just weeks ago. Especially since we can develop them responsibly while being mindful of carbon efficiencies and with excellent environmental stewardship. One thing that hasn’t yet changed in 2020, is that Canadians — especially Western Canadians — face the reality of vulnerable jobs, capital flight, increasing household debt, increasing government deficits, and big changes in the workplace. Climate-change initiatives that tax the average Canadian and now endanger our energy security have been a lot to ask in this kind of environment.
Perhaps the start of 2020 is an inflection point at which we pivot from climate alarmism to realistic discussions of energy development and security, in addition to environmental stewardship. Energy resources are geopolitical and Canadians are uniquely equipped to manage them responsibly. So, here’s to a new focus and a more balanced discussion of all these matters at the start of this new decade.
 

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As I have said before - there are a lot of people who would prefer to buy Cdn oil..................


because we will use the oil revenue to pay for health care..................................


rather than the Iranian habit of using oil revenue ................................


TO BUY WEAPONS AND THREATEN THE NEIGHBOURS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Unfortunately they still vote liberal for other reasons .
 

spilledthebeer

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Unfortunately they still vote liberal for other reasons .




Oh.................the foreign people who want to buy Cdn oil....................................


ARE NOT THE SAME ONES GRABBING LIE-beral carbon tax gravy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And AINT IT FUNNY.....................................


HOW MANY CIVIL SERVICE UNION HOGS WILL LAMENT GLOBAL WARMING...............................


AND THEN HOP IN THE TRUSTY SUV AND GO RIPPING UP HIGHWAY 400 AT 120 KLICKS TO THEIR COUNTRY HOME...........


AND AFTER A GOOD NIGHTS SLEEP THEY WILL HOP ONTO THEIR 300 HORSEPOWER SUPERCHARGED SEADOO..............


AND GO SCREAMING DOWN THE LAKE ENJOYING THE TRANQUIL NATURAL WORLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



AND WHEN THEY RETURN TO THE CITY - THEY WILL BITCH ABOUT ALL THE SLOBS WHO DRIVE TO WORK.........................


INSTEAD OF USING THE DILAPIDATED AND OVER CROWDED PUBLIC TRANSIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!