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spilledthebeer

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CARBON TAX REBATE...

Sometime this year, we taxpayers will receive a carbon tax rebate.
This is indeed a very exciting program, and I'll explain it by using a Q & A format:

Q. What is a carbon tax rebate?
A. It is money that the federal government will send to some taxpayers.
Q. Where will the government get this money?
A. From taxpayers.
Q. So the government is giving me back my own money?
A. Only a smidgen of it.
Q. What is the purpose of this payment?
A. The plan is for you to use the money to purchase a high-definition TV set, thus stimulating the economy.
Q. But isn't that stimulating the economy of China?
A. Shut up!

Below is some helpful advice on how to best help the economy by spending your compensation cheque wisely:

* If you spend the stimulus money at Walmart, the money will go to China or Sri Lanka.

* If you spend it on gasoline, your money will go to the Arabs.

* If you purchase a computer, it will go to India, Taiwan, or China.

* If you purchase fruit and vegetables, it will go to Mexico, Honduras, and Guatemala.

* If you buy an efficient car, it will go to Japan or Korea.

* If you purchase useless stuff, it will go to Taiwan.

* If you pay your credit cards off, or buy stock, it will go to management bonuses and they will hide it offshore.

Instead, keep the money in Canada by:

1) Spending it at yard sales, or

2) Going to hockey games, or

3) Spending it on a hooker, or

4) Beer, or

5) Tattoos.

(These are the only Canadian businesses still operating in Canada . )

Conclusion:

Go to a hockey game with a tattooed hooker you met at a yard sale and drink beer all day!

No need to thank me. I'm just glad I could help.




OUTSTANDING ADVICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


It might be more funny if it was less TRUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Our great grand children ARE SCREWED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Of course this assumes the World Wide Caliphate and the Black Lives Matter Race relations committee ALLOWS white people to procreate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I am sure hemerHOID will be one of their PROUD and completely confused sponsors!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

spilledthebeer

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With our stagnated economy we are heading for a recession, investment is leaving Canada faster than Trump insults


Actually our economy is not really stagnating................................


Those who have jobs generally continue to work...........................


the problem is what to do with the 300,000 immigrants that LIE-berals bring in each year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And another issue is what to do with all our kids............................


who do persist in reaching adulthood and needing adult resources such as home and job!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The other big issue is that our civil service union HOGS CONTINUALLY DEMAND MORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


While at the same time HOGS always try to DO LESS - in exchange for that "more" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



What it comes down to is our economy is functioning AS EFFECTIVELY........................................


AS TAX MAD LIE-berals ALLOW IT TO FUNCTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


One has only to look at the JUMP in jobs and revenue that Ontari-owe got........................


right after Mike Harris took over!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Or look at the jump in revenue that Ford got right after taking over!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



We cannot expect Ford to get as big a revenue jump as Harris as we are MUCH DEEPER IN DEBT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



And is it not ironic that teacher HOGS WHINE "you cannot do more with less"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But that is exactly what they are trying to force THE REST OF US TO DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

spilledthebeer

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Energy exodus: The incentives in Texas luring Canadian oil and gas companies south

https://globalnews.ca/news/6245656/...erNational&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=2019






LIE-berals TOLD US they wanted to KILL the Cdn oil patch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


So WHY are people surprised that the oil industry is SUFFERING???????????


LIE-berals make ALL KINDS OF STUPID CHOICES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Consider::::



Here is an article illustrating the growing Socialist problem that is ensnaring people like Our Soviet Socialist idiot Boy Justin!!



With some comments of my own in brackets):

Venezuela's decline poses challenges for Liberal minority government

From Mike Blanchfield, The Cdn Press, November 15, 2019

OTTAWA — The ripples from Venezuela's collapse are shifting Canada's Western Hemisphere neighbourhood, creating major long-term costs for the new Liberal minority government.

South America's borders remain the same, but the outflow of more than 4.5 million Venezuelan refugees in other countries is predicted to grow to more than six million by the end of 2020, according to new estimates from the United Nations refugee agency. That's nearly one in five Venezuelans.

That is putting more stress on Venezuela's neighbours, which are absorbing most of the refugees at a time of rising political uncertainty on the continent.

That includes mass protests that have rocked Chile, causing it to cancel two major international summits, a contested election in Bolivia that has sent longtime president Evo Morales into exile in Mexico, the return of a left-leaning government in Argentina and the ascent of a Trump-style populist in Brazil.

(AS history has shown - Socialism IS NOT the solution!! The South American problem of large populations - often with limited education - coupled with powerful CEO`s and assorted HOG unions, plus the massively corrupting influence of organized crime and drug cartels makes most of these countries virtually UN-governable - and it is only natural that many would flee to a safe and generous haven like Canada - but how many illegals can we afford to support?? Especially when there are serious criminals mixed in with the merely desperate!!!)
Earlier this year, Canada played a leading role in the Lima Group of the hemisphere's countries — minus the United States — that called on the Venezuelan military to back the ouster of the government of Nicolas Maduro. They and about four dozen other countries view Venezuelan opposition leader Juan Guaido as the legitimate interim president.

But months after that push, nothing has changed, and Venezuelans are voting with their feet by continuing to flee the country as the economy, health and education systems collapse, a situation widely blamed on Maduro's mismanagement and corruption.

(This is the usual LIE-beral CRAP- they wring their hands but do nothing!! LIE-berals believe that ANY Socialist failing is always the result of a bad leader- it is NEVER seen as the result of a BAD SYSTEM!! The worst of it is that the Russians are supporting Maduro and thus we have a replay of the Cold War style confrontations!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(The mess in Venezuela ought to be a teachable moment for our kids- but Our idiot Boy and his civil service union HOG allies DO NOT want to discuss the similarities between society destroying Socialism and their own Cdn political and social justice aspirations!! We have only to look at the six hundred million dollar slush fund that LIE-berals created to reward Cdn news media “that LIE-berals trust” to see the deliberate HYPOCRISY and shameless PURCHASE of good media coverage - Socialist style - at tax payer expense!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

"It creates a big vacuum in Venezuela. If this situation is prolonged it will be even more difficult to think about the reset of Venezuela," said Renata Dubini, the Americas director for the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees.

"It will for sure change the profile of Latin America, this movement of people. We are speaking about six million people. It will have an impact no doubt on the future of Venezuela proper and in the receiving countries."

(We may ask if LIE-berals do not see some virtue in this large scale movement - as LIE-berals ENJOY seeking out and exploiting minority groups in society!! Are LIE-berals hoping that hordes of illegals will destabilize multiple govts so much that LIE-berals can grab and KEEP power indefinitely?? Certainly we have seen Cdn LIE-berals happily exploiting Cdn natives and other such groups!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(There is even good reason to suspect that the guy who was just arrested in Toronto - for throwing buckets of sh+t on people is an illegal - and that he has committed his disgusting crimes out of frustration because his life in Toronto homeless shelters is not as grand as he hoped !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Venezuela was once an oil-rich state, before a rapid economic decline started in 2014, one year after Maduro succeeded long-time socialist Hugo Chavez. Hyperinflation and shortages of food and medicine eventually fuelled the exodus of a skilled, educated population.

(Socialism IS a great killer of economies!! One has only to look at Argentina and its “Dirty War” to see how the Socialist poison works!! There is an UGLY comparison between Argentina, Venezula and Alberta- that Our idiot Boy is DUCKING!! We should ask “What happens to the $63 billion dollar Alberta debt IF Our idiot Boy succeeds in killing the Cdn oil patch?? HOW HARD will our ENTIRE economy be hit if Alberta is driven into bankruptcy by LIE-beral policy that forbids the selling of the most valuable Alberta commodity - and then the rest of Canada is then FORCED to assume the Alberta debt????????????????)

(Canada could easily suffer the same sort of PRECIPITOUS DECLINE that Venezuela has endured- after all Venezuela has at least as much oil as Canada and theirs is MUCH EASIER and cheaper to ship - being closer to sea ports!! Our idiot Boy is IGNORING ALL the warning signs and lessons of history!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Despite the intervention by Canada, its Lima Group allies and other countries, that decline now looks irreversible.

(Let us PRAY that LIE-beral Socialist debts do not snare us Cdns as well!!!!!!!!!)

"It's the largest human migration in the history of this hemisphere since the arrival of Europeans," said Ben Rowswell, Canada's last ambassador to Venezuela until diplomatic relations were broken off leading to his expulsion in 2017.

During his first two years in Venezuela, starting in 2014, Rowswell said he noticed the influence and presence of another diaspora community — the Colombians, many of whom had decamped their country during a decades-long civil war that ended in 2016.

"For 50 years it was Colombia that was the unstable country with extraordinary levels of violence and organized-crime activity. And Colombians were voting with their feet as well and they established themselves in all kinds of Latin American countries," said Rowswell.

"The Venezuelans of 2019 are starting to occupy the role that Colombians have played for so many years. I suspect that Venezuelan communities are going to become relatively permanent fixtures of so many other Latin American countries over the generations to come."

Dubini said there is growing anecdotal evidence that those now fleeing Venezuela have little expectation of ever returning home.

(How could one ever again trust a govt that was prepared to starve and torture its citizens?? And once one made the major choice to abandon a home and flee away to get established someplace else - who would risk what they had recently built just to GO BACK AGAIN?????????????)

A recent survey by Peru's foreign ministry of new arrivals found that 90 per cent said they didn't want to go back to Venezuela, she said. The 861,000 Venezuelans now in Peru are expected to increase to 978,000 by the end of next year, making the country the second-largest recipient of its refugees after Colombia, which is expected to see its 1.4 million refugees balloon to almost 2.4 million by the end of 2020.

Fleeing Venezuelans are "a very qualified population" from a range of educated professions such as doctors, nurses and engineers, Dubini said, but the host countries will need structural support to cope with the influx.

She said Canada has asked that the World Bank grant Colombia, Peru and Ecuador new and stable financial assistance. That usually means decades-long loans that would come with no-payment grace periods of several years.

(And we should ask if “It would not be cheaper to find a way to DUMP Maduro and let Venezuelans DO THEIR OWN REBUILDING”?? And we should also ask how much of this requested funding is simply the usual whine for foreign aid from corrupt govts since South America has so little practice with responsible govt!! LIE-berals think all ills are cured with BORROWED MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

This would provide long-term support beyond the Band-Aid of humanitarian assistance, which in Canada's case has amounted to $2.2 million for Venezuela.

(So if a million people flee and Our idiot Boy offers $2.2 million dollars in aid -it means TWO BUCKS FOR EACH REFUGEE - and it does not go far and of course BANKRUPT LIE-beral Canada CANNOT OFFER MORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

It would help Colombia and Peru cope with paying for education and health care for their new Venezuelan residents, she said.

"These countries seem to be willing to integrate Venezuelans, but they cannot do it alone," said Dubini.

Meanwhile, the hollowing-out of Venezuela is posing a separate set of challenges.

"When you have four-and-a-half million people leaving a country, you get a brain drain, you get a deterioration in basic services because medical staff, teaching staff, businesspeople leave. It contributes to the degradation of that society," said Dr. Hugo Slim, the Geneva-based head of policy and human diplomacy at the International Committee of the Red Cross.

(In other words the ability of Venezuela to maintain a 20th century life style is being CRIPPLED by losing all the people who know how to repair stuff!!!!!!!!!!!!)

His organization, in tandem with the International Federation of the Red Cross and Red Crescent, is trying to bolster Venezuela's fading health-care system by training doctors and providing equipment.

"We're trying to train doctors and military doctors and civilian doctors in health-care work because medical systems are degrading fast as people leave," said Slim. "We are putting the whole weight of the movement into trying to maintain the health system."

Rowswell said that it is not too big a stretch to begin thinking about Venezuela as a new version of Haiti, which has traditionally been the poorest, most aid-dependent country in the Americas.

"I'm painting a rather bleak notion of Venezuela being the new Haiti," he said. "Over the years and years to come, decades to come, there's going to be a requirement for a very significant economic and humanitarian support. That's going to be the challenge for the Canadian government going forward."

(And Our idiot Boy DOES NOT wish to face this Socialist created crisis honestly - because HE is a socialist HIMSELF and he does not want his poisoned value system FULLY EXPOSED for the rotten mess it is !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
 

Twin_Moose

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Energy exodus: The incentives in Texas luring Canadian oil and gas companies south
https://globalnews.ca/news/6245656/...erNational&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=2019

Yep, exactly what we are trying to say because of the policies being adopted in, and the lack of support from Ottawa we are losing all our innovators and ground breakers to the US. The US unlocked their resources with Canadian technology and innovation it only makes sense that they would want our innovators, and we are doing nothing to help retain them.
 

Twin_Moose

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Because of oil is not worth $100 a bbl

What do you think that has to do with anything? Oil is profitable at the current price Hoid, no room for expanded capacity. Oil companies are sitting on what they got to see how this Gov. is going to restrict them further, and only doing maintenance and well replacement until the infrastructure and the political atmosphere can accommodate higher volumes of Oil.
 

captain morgan

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CARBON TAX REBATE...

Sometime this year, we taxpayers will receive a carbon tax rebate.
This is indeed a very exciting program, and I'll explain it by using a Q & A format:

Q. What is a carbon tax rebate?
A. It is money that the federal government will send to some taxpayers.
Q. Where will the government get this money?
A. From taxpayers.
Q. So the government is giving me back my own money?
A. Only a smidgen of it.
Q. What is the purpose of this payment?
A. The plan is for you to use the money to purchase a high-definition TV set, thus stimulating the economy.
Q. But isn't that stimulating the economy of China?
A. Shut up!

Below is some helpful advice on how to best help the economy by spending your compensation cheque wisely:

* If you spend the stimulus money at Walmart, the money will go to China or Sri Lanka.

* If you spend it on gasoline, your money will go to the Arabs.

* If you purchase a computer, it will go to India, Taiwan, or China.

* If you purchase fruit and vegetables, it will go to Mexico, Honduras, and Guatemala.

* If you buy an efficient car, it will go to Japan or Korea.

* If you purchase useless stuff, it will go to Taiwan.

* If you pay your credit cards off, or buy stock, it will go to management bonuses and they will hide it offshore.

Instead, keep the money in Canada by:

1) Spending it at yard sales, or

2) Going to hockey games, or

3) Spending it on a hooker, or

4) Beer, or

5) Tattoos.

(These are the only Canadian businesses still operating in Canada . )

Conclusion:

Go to a hockey game with a tattooed hooker you met at a yard sale and drink beer all day!

No need to thank me. I'm just glad I could help.

This deserves a bump
 

captain morgan

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Yep, exactly what we are trying to say because of the policies being adopted in, and the lack of support from Ottawa we are losing all our innovators and ground breakers to the US. The US unlocked their resources with Canadian technology and innovation it only makes sense that they would want our innovators, and we are doing nothing to help retain them.


Not just the loss of innovation and the spin-off bennies from it... The tangible loss to the Feds and the Have-Not provinces comes in the form of those tax dollars not being generated.


Fewer dollars to feather the nests of those jurisdictions with aging populations and fewer workers kicking into the kitty


What do you think that has to do with anything? Oil is profitable at the current price Hoid, no room for expanded capacity. Oil companies are sitting on what they got to see how this Gov. is going to restrict them further, and only doing maintenance and well replacement until the infrastructure and the political atmosphere can accommodate higher volumes of Oil.


If you talk to some of the senior oil guys in AB, they will tell you that they operated viable E&P companies back in the 80s when the price of oil was between $10-$15.
 

Twin_Moose

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Not just the loss of innovation and the spin-off bennies from it... The tangible loss to the Feds and the Have-Not provinces comes in the form of those tax dollars not being generated.
Fewer dollars to feather the nests of those jurisdictions with aging populations and fewer workers kicking into the kitty
If you talk to some of the senior oil guys in AB, they will tell you that they operated viable E&P companies back in the 80s when the price of oil was between $10-$15.

With all the intrusions by Ottawa with permits, licensing, Enviro. impact, auditing, new taxes, etc. trying to get a bigger piece of the pie the costs have almost doubled since then. The NEB is not run by a 50/50 split between industry and Gov. anymore it is pretty much run by Gov. and their demands are getting pretty ridiculous and stifling growth.
 

taxslave

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With all the intrusions by Ottawa with permits, licensing, Enviro. impact, auditing, new taxes, etc. trying to get a bigger piece of the pie the costs have almost doubled since then. The NEB is not run by a 50/50 split between industry and Gov. anymore it is pretty much run by Gov. and their demands are getting pretty ridiculous and stifling growth.
The best way to kill an industry is to take over the regulatory process.
 

Hoid

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The best way to kill a planet is to let the oil industry run the regulatory process
 

spilledthebeer

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Not just the loss of innovation and the spin-off bennies from it... The tangible loss to the Feds and the Have-Not provinces comes in the form of those tax dollars not being generated.


Fewer dollars to feather the nests of those jurisdictions with aging populations and fewer workers kicking into the kitty





If you talk to some of the senior oil guys in AB, they will tell you that they operated viable E&P companies back in the 80s when the price of oil was between $10-$15.


IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And what was the price of bread or housing back then???????????????????????????


And HOW MUCH LESS DEBT was the govt carrying?????????????????????


The problem is a little thing called INFLATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


AND INFLATION IS BEING DRIVEN BY LIE-beral LIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And our debt is driven by SHAMELESS LIE-BERAL VOTE BUYING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


If its LIE-beral it is supported by a LIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!