First Brown face, now Red Faced ROFLOL

Hoof Hearted

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"9 stupid things that Harper government spent tax money on"

I never realized Hoid and his wife had 7 kids.
 

pgs

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Of course room service orange juice is brought up . You will post that as a critical waste of money after four years of Trudeau flying around on his private challenger courtesy of the Canadian taxpayer . Yikes you people always bemoan the lack of women in politics , yet are fine with a hard working minority woman getting drummed out of politics for the unmitigated gall of ordering room service prior to meetings in a foreign capital . In one of the most expensive cities in the world at that .
 

Hoid

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Of course room service orange juice is brought up . You will post that as a critical waste of money after four years of Trudeau flying around on his private challenger courtesy of the Canadian taxpayer .



real politicians fly F35s
 

bluebyrd35

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The difference between you and the government of Canada , you got a mortgage and worked to pay it off . You didn’t spend your accumulated equity every year . The government of Canada is enlarging our collective mortgage on a daily basis with no plan to pay it down . As a matter of fact we are adding billions with a B every year onto our mortgage . You can explain to your grandchildren why Canada couldn’t or wouldn’t balance its spending leaving them with an impossible tax burden .
Canada has a good credit rating compared to many nations, What Canada owes is our mortgage!! Practicing austerity for no reason except to pay off a debt which is already being taken care of, will simply put us in a recession We then need to borrow more again probably at a higher rate of interest in order to kick start the economy. It is usually the middle class that is hit the hardest and when they stop buying the tax revenue base disappears


The trickle down effect no longer works because most large corporations do not pay their fair share. Those who should be paying the largeest taxes can transfer money off shore. Many times the whole business goes as well.

That is where balance makes a difference
 

DaSleeper

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Canada has a good credit rating compared to many nations, What Canada owes is our mortgage!! Practicing austerity for no reason except to pay off a debt which is already being taken care of, will simply put us in a recession We then need to borrow more again probably at a higher rate of interest in order to kick start the economy. It is usually the middle class that is hit the hardest and when they stop buying the tax revenue base disappears


The trickle down effect no longer works because most large corporations do not pay their fair share. Those who should be paying the largeest taxes can transfer money off shore. Many times the whole business goes as well.

That is where balance makes a difference




Bullshit!


We wouldn't have National debt if it wasn't for Trudeau senior.




At that time it seems that Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau came under the influence of neoliberalism, promulgated by Frederich Hayek and Milton Friedman. Then, while attending the Basil Committee sessions, he probably came under further influence of fellow Bilderberg attendees and as a result he accepted the partisan flawed logic from the world’s top banks. Apparently on the basis of this, he decided that Canada should dramatically reduce borrowing interest-free money from Canada’s own bank and instead borrow the bulk of its money from chartered banks and pay interest on the loans. It appears that this decision was made without informing Canada’s parliament. This was such a fundamental change of policy that it should not only have been debated in parliament, this should have been put to a national referendum. Strangely, even when this became known, this was apparently never questioned by the opposition parties, especially the NDP, and never revealed in the media. Strange indeed.
Since the Coyne affair in the early 60s, the long-standing debate about the autonomy of the Bank of Canada from so-called government control has been ignored. Central banks around the world are supposed to be autonomous, concerned only with monetary policy while the governments are to be concerned with fiscal policy. What many elected representatives do not realize is that fiscal policy and monetary policy interact with each other and can supplement each other. This is acknowledged in the Bank of Canada Act where the Governor of the Bank of Canada and the Finance Minister must consult regularly with each other.


More
https://canadiandimension.com/artic...-reinstated-to-its-original-mandated-purposes

It's a long read.....but interesting if you dare......
 

pgs

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Canada has a good credit rating compared to many nations, What Canada owes is our mortgage!! Practicing austerity for no reason except to pay off a debt which is already being taken care of, will simply put us in a recession We then need to borrow more again probably at a higher rate of interest in order to kick start the economy. It is usually the middle class that is hit the hardest and when they stop buying the tax revenue base disappears


The trickle down effect no longer works because most large corporations do not pay their fair share. Those who should be paying the largeest taxes can transfer money off shore. Many times the whole business goes as well.

That is where balance makes a difference
Our mortgage is getting larger year over year . It can never be paid if it keeps growing .
 

bluebyrd35

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Bullshit!


We wouldn't have National debt if it wasn't for Trudeau senior.




At that time it seems that Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau came under the influence of neoliberalism, promulgated by Frederich Hayek and Milton Friedman. Then, while attending the Basil Committee sessions, he probably came under further influence of fellow Bilderberg attendees and as a result he accepted the partisan flawed logic from the world’s top banks. Apparently on the basis of this, he decided that Canada should dramatically reduce borrowing interest-free money from Canada’s own bank and instead borrow the bulk of its money from chartered banks and pay interest on the loans. It appears that this decision was made without informing Canada’s parliament. This was such a fundamental change of policy that it should not only have been debated in parliament, this should have been put to a national referendum. Strangely, even when this became known, this was apparently never questioned by the opposition parties, especially the NDP, and never revealed in the media. Strange indeed.
Since the Coyne affair in the early 60s, the long-standing debate about the autonomy of the Bank of Canada from so-called government control has been ignored. Central banks around the world are supposed to be autonomous, concerned only with monetary policy while the governments are to be concerned with fiscal policy. What many elected representatives do not realize is that fiscal policy and monetary policy interact with each other and can supplement each other. This is acknowledged in the Bank of Canada Act where the Governor of the Bank of Canada and the Finance Minister must consult regularly with each other.


More
https://canadiandimension.com/artic...-reinstated-to-its-original-mandated-purposes

It's a long read.....but interesting if you dare......
The stats completely contradicts a lot of the beliefs of most of those posting here.

The national debt: Canada has the lowest debt burden in the Group of Seven. The weight of federal debt is not heavy and increasing; it’s light and shrinking. The debt-to-GDP ratio, a measure of the debt relative to the size of the economy as measured by gross domestic product, was low in 2015, and it’s gone down over the past four years.

At just 1 per cent of GDP, federal debt-service costs in 2018-19 were lower than at any time since at least the mid-1960s. Ottawa is currently spending less on debt servicing than during the Stephen Harper era.

In short, Ottawa does not have a debt crisis, or even a debt problem. The other parties are free to disagree with the Liberal government’s choices on other issues, but (we’re looking at you, Conservatives) don’t even try arguing that it’s dug Canada into a fiscal hole.

The deficit: On Tuesday, when Ottawa closed its books on 2018-19, it recorded a $14-billion deficit. How big is that gap between spending and revenues? Small enough that the debt-to-GDP ratio last year fell from 31.3 per cent to 30.9 per cent. That’s a level last hit in the Harper government’s pre-Great Recession years, and before that last seen when Pierre Trudeau was prime minister.
 

Curious Cdn

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Bullshit!
We wouldn't have National debt if it wasn't for Trudeau senior.
At that time it seems that Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau came under the influence of neoliberalism, promulgated by Frederich Hayek and Milton Friedman. Then, while attending the Basil Committee sessions, he probably came under further influence of fellow Bilderberg attendees and as a result he accepted the partisan flawed logic from the world’s top banks. Apparently on the basis of this, he decided that Canada should dramatically reduce borrowing interest-free money from Canada’s own bank and instead borrow the bulk of its money from chartered banks and pay interest on the loans. It appears that this decision was made without informing Canada’s parliament. This was such a fundamental change of policy that it should not only have been debated in parliament, this should have been put to a national referendum. Strangely, even when this became known, this was apparently never questioned by the opposition parties, especially the NDP, and never revealed in the media. Strange indeed.
Since the Coyne affair in the early 60s, the long-standing debate about the autonomy of the Bank of Canada from so-called government control has been ignored. Central banks around the world are supposed to be autonomous, concerned only with monetary policy while the governments are to be concerned with fiscal policy. What many elected representatives do not realize is that fiscal policy and monetary policy interact with each other and can supplement each other. This is acknowledged in the Bank of Canada Act where the Governor of the Bank of Canada and the Finance Minister must consult regularly with each other.

More
https://canadiandimension.com/artic...-reinstated-to-its-original-mandated-purposes

It's a long read.....but interesting if you dare......
Je me souviens.
 

spilledthebeer

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The stats completely contradicts a lot of the beliefs of most of those posting here.

The national debt: Canada has the lowest debt burden in the Group of Seven. The weight of federal debt is not heavy and increasing; it’s light and shrinking. The debt-to-GDP ratio, a measure of the debt relative to the size of the economy as measured by gross domestic product, was low in 2015, and it’s gone down over the past four years.

At just 1 per cent of GDP, federal debt-service costs in 2018-19 were lower than at any time since at least the mid-1960s. Ottawa is currently spending less on debt servicing than during the Stephen Harper era.

In short, Ottawa does not have a debt crisis, or even a debt problem. The other parties are free to disagree with the Liberal government’s choices on other issues, but (we’re looking at you, Conservatives) don’t even try arguing that it’s dug Canada into a fiscal hole.

The deficit: On Tuesday, when Ottawa closed its books on 2018-19, it recorded a $14-billion deficit. How big is that gap between spending and revenues? Small enough that the debt-to-GDP ratio last year fell from 31.3 per cent to 30.9 per cent. That’s a level last hit in the Harper government’s pre-Great Recession years, and before that last seen when Pierre Trudeau was prime minister.




OH Byrd brained Byrdie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


You have just proven your madness and ignorance and GREED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



How SHAMELESS you are to think you can dump your DEBT SHIT ON OTHERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


How wealthy will your children and grand children be...................................


AFTER LIE-berals get their new WEALTH TAX in place????????????????????????


You are the BLEEDING HEART of the white privilege that LIE-berals DESPISE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


In order to cover their debts and to GRAB THE GRAVY they need to prop up their BANKRUPT GOVT...........................


they are GOING TO LOOT YOUR KIDS INHERITANCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


You are exactly the OVER PRIVILEGED FOOL I have been calling you................................


if you THINK that you and your descendants are IMMUNE to the debt wall Face Plant...................................


LIE-berals are setting us ALL up for!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

harrylee

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Since I have less debt than some, I think I might go piss away all the savings and investments I have made in the last 67 years. Then borrow as much as I can to live high off the HOG.......Yes, I will go bankrupt, but not as bankrupt as some. Apparently that is A OK these days.
 

DaSleeper

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May 27, 2007
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The stats completely contradicts a lot of the beliefs of most of those posting here.

The national debt: Canada has the lowest debt burden in the Group of Seven. The weight of federal debt is not heavy and increasing; it’s light and shrinking. The debt-to-GDP ratio, a measure of the debt relative to the size of the economy as measured by gross domestic product, was low in 2015, and it’s gone down over the past four years.

At just 1 per cent of GDP, federal debt-service costs in 2018-19 were lower than at any time since at least the mid-1960s. Ottawa is currently spending less on debt servicing than during the Stephen Harper era.

In short, Ottawa does not have a debt crisis, or even a debt problem. The other parties are free to disagree with the Liberal government’s choices on other issues, but (we’re looking at you, Conservatives) don’t even try arguing that it’s dug Canada into a fiscal hole.

The deficit: On Tuesday, when Ottawa closed its books on 2018-19, it recorded a $14-billion deficit. How big is that gap between spending and revenues? Small enough that the debt-to-GDP ratio last year fell from 31.3 per cent to 30.9 per cent. That’s a level last hit in the Harper government’s pre-Great Recession years, and before that last seen when Pierre Trudeau was prime minister.


Just more whataboutery.....


I was just pointing out that before Trudeau senior Canada was getting interest free loans from the Bank of Canada


To comprehend the size of the problem here in Canada, consider the fact that our federal government alone spends over $26 billion a year on interest payments. $26 Billion. The Canadian government spends more to simply maintain our current levels of debt each year than on our entire military budget.
https://www.google.ca/search?source...hUKEwidsqyx-7nlAhVSTd8KHXZxCXQQ4dUDCAc&uact=5
 

spilledthebeer

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Just more whataboutery.....


I was just pointing out that before Trudeau senior Canada was getting interest free loans from the Bank of Canada


https://www.google.ca/search?source...hUKEwidsqyx-7nlAhVSTd8KHXZxCXQQ4dUDCAc&uact=5






Our resident bird brained Bluebyrdie is a typical LIE-beral!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


She has FUN with numbers - TO HER PROFIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


She IGNORES things like how the standard of living for ORDINARY CDNS.........................


who dont get a govt pay cheque- IS DROPPING steadily!!!!!!!!!!



While our civil service union HOGS go on to ever greater Gravy Grabbing GREED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Byrdie IGNORES the EVER INCREASING HOURS on the job that ordinary Cdns must put in......................


WITHOUT OVER TIME PAY OR PERKS ........just to KEEP the McJob!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Byrdie IGNORES the NASTY REALITY that civil service union HOGS eaen one third MORE.........................


than people doing the SAME JOB in the private sector!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Byrdie CANNOT give any honest explanation why a school board electrician should earn one third more........................


than an electrician in the private sector!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Bluebyrdie IGNORES the swarms of desperate Cdns...............................


who have given up the search for the Cdn good life and now hang out............................


on the filthy streets around the Harm Reduction Needle Exchange!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Bird brained Byrdie ignores the rising tide of violence across the country.............................


as those who have despaired of living an honest life turn to CRIME to get what they need!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Byrdie IGNORES the old folks living in squalor and deprivation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Bluebyrdie BLAMES the old folks - who lived their lives TAXED to the hilt............................


and now are facing desperate fiscal choices thanks to LIE-beral mandated INFLATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals have ARTIFICIALLY REDUCED interest rates to make it easier to pay for their debts..............................


meaning the money LIE-berals BORROWED to pget gravy for HOGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



But those lower interest rates ALSO CRIPPLE rates of return for investments that the elderly NEED to live on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Byrdie DOES NOT look at the old folks who must make HARSH choices regarding whether to buy FOOD OR HEAT OR



PRESCRIPTION DRUGS - Byrdie simply pretends such people do not exist!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


If you are a kid and cannot find a decent job or an affordable place to live........................


Byrdie BLAMES YOUR STUPID PARENTS......................................


for not supporting LIE-berals in their efforts to build "affordable housing"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Byrdie IGNORES the reality that such housing IS NOT REALLY AFFORDABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


As witness one has only to look at HOW ROTTEN and deteriorated such housing is.............................


to recognize we annot even maintain the existing stock....................................



much less build an whole bunch more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



And she does not care that such housing has TRADITIONALLY been filled up with FAILED Immigrants...............................


who lack the language and education skills to succeed here and that they were selected by LIE-berals.......................


so their votes could be BOUGHT by LIE-berals and those voters are appearing MUCH FASTER................................


and in MUCH LARGER NUMBERS than the not so affordable housing supplies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Byrdie IGNORES how truly desperate LIE-berals are becoming!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals have LIED RELENTLESSLY about all sorts of stuff and have been exposed as FAILURES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The LIE-beral response has been to THROW OPEN the borders and round up illegals who so desperately need LIE-beral aid........


just to survive that they will sell their votes to LIE-berals VERY CHEAPLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals DO NOT CARE what the long term cost to sociaty will be of setting up this PERMANENT underclass.........................


that will generate a new supply of criminals and terrorists and social anarchists!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Studies out of Britain indicate CLEARLY that the path to RADICALIZATION is found in LONG TERM POVERTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



ALL LIE-beral policy IS SHORT SIGHTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The number of Cdns enraged at the cost of homeless shelters and harm reduction drug facilities........................................


and the attendant crime and filth............................



IS LARGER than the number of new LIE-beral votes being bought!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The votes LIE-berals BUY TODAY.............................


generate the LIE-beral PROBLEMS of tomorrow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Byrdie is SO ARROGANT she simply assumes that anybody having problems in Canada is FOOLISH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Byrdie assumes THAT ALL PROBLEMS may be resolved by adopting "LIE-beral values".............................


and BELIEVING IN LIE-beral Fake News and delusions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Byrdie is the epitome of LIE-beral arrogance and ignorance!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!