To IMPEACH ????

Ocean Breeze

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That would be convenient for Biden to have Trump Impeached wouldn't it?
Donalds whole presidency has been filled with rule breaking.......doing it HIS way......regardless of the constitution........and a big mistake from the moment the silly Americans elected him. This takes time and will take away from his doing not much for the country............and is a tragedy.........His election was a tragedy.......but it will take some many years if at all .....to fully comprehend that.

Donald has been relying on article two............" potus can do anything he wants.........." which is just Donald interpretation.......that suits him.

Of course Donald is having a twitter hissy fit now. If that is his "stream of consciousness"..........then the USG is in BIG trouble. The Trump Reich is in REACTIVE mode.
 

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House Speaker Pelosi to announce formal impeachment inquiry of Trump after resisting for months

The announcement planned later Tuesday from Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) comes amid reports that President Trump may have pressured a foreign leader to investigate former vice president and potential 2020 campaign rival Joe Biden and his family.
A growing number of House Democrats are backing an impeachment inquiry as momentum shifts in the Democratic caucus.
Democratic officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to speak frankly, said
source: WAPO
Did anyone see Donald's' lethargic and underwhelming speach at the UN??.........He looked like crap too.


I for one am glad to see this happening, if only because it should bring to light what's really going on in his White House. No more avoiding questions; he HAS to answer them.

If it's all a 'nothing burger' then fine, he's vindicated and he wins 2020, but if it's not, if he did do serious wrong, he's done and the Republicans will have a LOT to answer for in the election.
 

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What a set up by Trump, right in the middle of the hysteria storm he is going to release the transcript un-redacted, there is going to be a lot of egg in the face and todaso's to feed the country.

From all this a special prosecutor will be assigned on the Biden corruption scandal.

Official Impeachment inquiry, glorious, we have seen the glory of the ending of the Dem party, from it's ashes the Southern democrat party will rise again :)
 

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the last domino falls
The transcript they are talking about releasing.........may not be as important .......as having the information from the whistle blower.

Donald has been in the process of self impeachment.......for sometime......He has been pushing and breaking rules, b boundaries, and laws.....just close enough to be able to lie about it..........but the accumulation of his behaviors is starting to weigh heavily......on the constitution. and the democratic system in the US .

This is a good day for Putin. He has sown disorder via Thump in the USG......changing its whole premise from democratic republic to ?? disorder Not only that His interference in Ukraine has been added to by Trump.

Trump has been so obstructive in his conduct ......creating such division........and angst........and therefore a lack of productivity.......... Donald does not work well in a group or take other opinions.......... he goes it solo...... he is NOT A TRUE LEADER...........he doesn't have leadership qualities. Anyone that has been a leader .....regardless of ones field........knows this. Anyone that has worked for an ineffective boss knows this too.
 
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Serryah

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What a set up by Trump, right in the middle of the hysteria storm he is going to release the transcript un-redacted, there is going to be a lot of egg in the face and todaso's to feed the country.

From all this a special prosecutor will be assigned on the Biden corruption scandal.

Official Impeachment inquiry, glorious, we have seen the glory of the ending of the Dem party, from it's ashes the Southern democrat party will rise again :)


At this point, the Demons had no choice.


Not doing anything would be their downfall in 2020.


Doing this may be their downfall in 2020.


But at least now they can tell people that they did try to do something by looking into what exactly was going on. That might help them enough to maintain some power.
 

Ocean Breeze

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At this point, the Demons had no choice.


Not doing anything would be their downfall in 2020.


Doing this may be their downfall in 2020.


But at least now they can tell people that they did try to do something by looking into what exactly was going on. That might help them enough to maintain some power.
indeed. Delicate situation to be in.......but Polosi seemed to have handled that statement well. With a sociopath like Donald........this is gonna get tricky.........as Donald behaves as if he has nothing to lose. Maybe the only thing he has t to lose is the Role of POTUS, and the POWER..........even if he does not know how to handle that kind of power. Diplomacy is not his thing....... and the day to day details of the job bore him.........so he watches tV and frets on twitter.... The only thing that seems to be affected is his pride. sadly he has virtually destroyed the republican party.
 

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Trump confirms he withheld military aid from Ukraine, says he wants other countries to help pay


President Trump was pressed by reporters as to why he blocked aid a week before his call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.

��But very importantly, Germany, France, other countries should put up money, and that��s been my complaint from the beginning,�� Trump said.

The Washington Post reported Monday that Trump told his acting chief of staff, Mick Mulvaney, to hold back almost $400 million in military aid for Ukraine at least a week before a phone call in which Trump is said to have pressured the Ukrainian president to investigate the son of former vice president Joe Biden, according to three senior administration officials.

source: WAPO
 

Danbones

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Ah yes, the WAt POop.
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It's good Trump withheld arms from the NAZI UKRAINE.
;)
Though I can see why that might PISS tape YOU trumphaters OFF.

MASS Neo-Nazi Marches in Ukraine today to honour Stepan Bandera
Jan 1, 2019

The Washington Post wrote that Bandera had entered into a “tactical relationship with Nazi Germany” and that his followers “were accused of committing atrocities against Poles and Jews,”
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2015/09/stepan-bandera-nationalist-euromaidan-right-sector/

Now, there is some WAPO for you.

Why Does No One Care That Neo-Nazis Are Gaining Power In Ukraine?

Ukraine’s far-right is like a hydra, with ugly heads that pop up far too frequently. Just within the last few weeks, an American-born cabinet minister thanked a group of violent neo-Nazi “activists” for their services, a soldier was photographed wearing a Nazi death’s head patch right behind President Petro Poroshenko and almost 1,500 neo-Nazis and friends threw a two-day Hitler-salute-fest.

They’re also trying to turn Kiev into a capital of the global far-right, inviting neo-Nazis and white supremacists from around the world to visit.
https://forward.com/opinion/416751/why-does-no-one-care-that-neo-nazis-are-gaining-power-in-ukraine/

As we always said about you trumpahting globalist commies and nazis.



besides:


Israel is arming neo-Nazis in Ukraine

In a letter “about licenses for Ukraine” obtained by The Electronic Intifada, the Israeli defense ministry’s arms export agency says they are “careful to grant licenses” to arms exporters “in full coordination with the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and other government entities.”

The 26 June letter was sent in reply to Israeli lawyer Eitay Mack who had written a detailed request demanding Israel end all military aid to the country.

They had written that Ukrainian armed forces use rifles made in Israel “and are trained by Israelis,” according to reports in the country.
https://electronicintifada.net/content/israel-arming-neo-nazis-ukraine/24876


...and then there is Bidan.
 
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On Ukraine, Giuliani pursued shadow agenda as key foreign policy officials were pushed aside


The effort to control the American relationship with the government in Kiev included the removal of the U.S. ambassador to Ukraine, the circumvention of senior officials on the National Security Council, and the suspension of millions of dollars of aid administered by the Defense and State departments, according to current and former U.S. officials.
Some senior officials worked behind the scenes to hold off a Trump meeting or call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky out of concern that the president would use the conversation to press Kiev for damaging information on Trump��s potential rival in the 2020 race, former vice president Joe Biden, and Biden��s son, Hunter.

source: WAPO



what a perfect team Julliani makes with Donald. Neither has an y scruples or ethics.
 

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Ukraine call transcript shows Trump sought Biden probe, asked about DNC server – but made no mention of US aid

The White House on Wednesday released a transcript of President Trump’s July phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky showing he sought a review of Biden family dealings in the country — but the document does not show Trump explicitly leveraging military aid as part of a quid pro quo, as Democrats have suggested in pressing forward with impeachment.
The document, declassified by Trump a day earlier, indicates that the call – which Trump made from the White House residence -- took place July 25 from 9:03 a.m. to 9:33 a.m. A notation on the memo says it does not represent a "verbatim transcript" but is based on "notes and recollections" of those listening and memorializing the call. It is still presented in transcript form.

The memo begins with the president congratulating Zelensky on his election victory, before Trump eventually broaches the subject former Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter.
READ THE UKRAINE CALL MEMO
“There’s a lot of talk about Biden’s son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great,” Trump said in the phone call. “Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it…It sounds horrible to me.”
This refers to Joe Biden, while vice president, urging Ukraine to fire its top prosecutor, Viktor Shokin, who was investigating the natural gas firm Burisma Holdings — where Hunter Biden was on the board. Biden has maintained that corruption concerns prompted his intervention.
Trump, in the run-up to the transcript's release, was accused by Democrats of essentially pressuring a foreign power to investigate a political opponent, as Biden is now a top contender for the 2020 Democratic presidential nomination.
On Monday, it was reported that Trump had even ordered his staff to freeze nearly $400 million in aid to Ukraine a few days before the phone call with Zelensky, a detail that fueled impeachment calls and led to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi to announce a formal impeachment inquiry Tuesday. But the call transcript does not show Trump mentioning the aid as a bargaining chip or otherwise — though Zelensky did appear to reference military aid early in the call, when he thanked Trump for "great support in the area of defense."
The transcript shows Zelensky eventually suggesting to Trump the Biden matter would be looked into by a new prosecutor. “He or she will look into the situation specifically to the company that you mentioned in this issue, the issue of the investigation of the case is actually the issue to restore the honesty so we will take care of that and we will work on the investigation of the case.”
Trump told Zelensky he wanted his lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, and Attorney General William Barr to get involved.
“I will have Mr. Giuliani give you call and I’m also going to have Attorney General Barr call and we will get to the bottom of it. I’m sure you will figure it out,” he said.
A Department of Justice spokeswoman, Kerri Kupec, said in a statement that the attorney general was first notified of the president’s conversation with Zelensky several weeks after the call took place, “when the Department of Justice learned of a potential referral.”
“The president has not spoken with the Attorney General about having Ukraine investigate anything relating to former Vice President Biden or his son,” Kupec said. “The president has not asked the Attorney General to contact Ukraine — on this or any other matter. The attorney general has not communicated with Ukraine — on this or any other subject. Nor has the Attorney General discussed this matter, or anything related to Ukraine, with Rudy Giuliani.”
Before the transcript was released, Democrats accused Trump of improperly using his office to pressure another country to investigate one of his chief Democratic rivals. Hogan Gidley, a White House spokesman, said during an appearance on Fox News: "There's no quid pro quo and there's no pressure."
Trump has denied wrongdoing and has repeatedly referred to the impeachment push as a partisan “witch hunt.”
“Will the Democrats apologize after seeing what was said on the call with the Ukrainian President? They should, a perfect call - got them by surprise!” the president tweeted Wednesday.
The Trump-Zelensky conversation led to a whistleblower complaint against the president, provoking the avalanche of impeachment calls from Democrats.
But the Justice Department – in a new letter from the Office of Legal Counsel obtained by Fox News – is pushing back on the claim that the whistleblower brought out something of “urgent concern” that would have to be turned over to Congress.
“For the reasons set forth above, we conclude that the complaint submitted to the [intelligence community inspector general] does not involve an 'urgent concern'…” It adds: “As a result, the statute does not require that the [Director of National Intelligence] transmit the complaint to the intelligence committees.”
The DOJ opinion also said the intelligence community inspector general found “some indicia of an arguable political bias on the part of the complainant in favor of a rival political candidate,” but still said the allegations “appeared credible.” Fox News previously reported that, according to a source, the individual also did not have “firsthand knowledge” of the phone call.
On Tuesday night, Pelosi – who had resisted calls from the liberal base to pursue articles of impeachment – announced a formal impeachment inquiry against the president. Even without a "quid pro quo" illustrated in the transcript, Democrats are likely to move full speed ahead on impeachment. Wednesday’s transcript release is the first time lawmakers have seen exactly what was said in the conversation.
Democrats, though, have said they won’t be satisfied with just seeing the transcript and have said they want access to the full whistleblower report. That complaint may soon be turned over, however, as the administration weighs how to handle the document.
The transcript also shows Trump asking for a “favor” in the form of Ukraine providing information about the hacking of the DNC server in 2016. He referenced CrowdStrike, a cyber firm used by the DNC to investigate the attacks.
“I would like you to do us a favor though because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a lot about it. I would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with Ukraine, they say Crowdstrike… I guess you have one of your wealthy people… The server, they say Ukraine has it,” Trump said.
During the call, Trump also blasted what he referred to as Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s “very poor performance” before Congress in July about the Trump-Russia investigation. Trump added, “a lot of it started with Ukraine” and asked for help in gathering information about the probe's origins. “Whatever you can do, it’s very important that you do it if that’s possible,” Trump said.
Later on Wednesday, Trump is slated to meet with Zelensky, in what will be a high-stakes moment amid the impeachment push, on the sidelines of the United Nations General Assembly in New York. The meeting was previously scheduled, unrelated to the whistleblower allegation, though the two leaders are expected to receive questions from reporters on the matter.
Trump then is expected to hold a press conference in New York in the late afternoon, where the impeachment drive is sure to be front and center.
A senior Trump administration official told Fox News that the White House has been working as quickly as it can to release to Congress the whistleblower complaint involving Trump’s conversations with the Ukrainian president, as long as it’s legally possible.
The White House has maintained that they have nothing to hide and that there has been no wrongdoing. Their general position has been that it will make everything possible available to Congress or the public regarding Trump’s call and the complaint to the intelligence community’s inspector general.
“The president must be held accountable,” Pelosi said Tuesday, citing his alleged “betrayal of his oath of office, betrayal of our national security, and the betrayal of the integrity of our elections.”

Full transaction

Trump's Ukraine call transcript: Read the document

Bahahaha Nothing absolutely nothing
 

Danbones

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It's blowing up in your faces like weiners in kindergarten.
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The republicans just raised a MILLION Dollars in 6 hours.

Impeachment Was A Trap, Republicans Raised ONE MILLION Dollars In SIX HOURS
Sep 25, 2019
Timcast

LOL ...and Tim is a confirmed lefty and even he can't believe the lefties.
 
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