Trans Mountain ‘pipeline is going to get built’: Trudeau dismisses B.C.’s bitumen ban

JLM

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Matt Gurney: Trudeau gets a new pipeline headache — just in time for the federal election

Hear arguments on whether the new consultation process is enough, losing any chance to gain seats in the West


This could be a blessing in disguise (as long as it's only a temporary set back) Anything that exacerbates people's discontent with Justin and eventually leads to the Asshole's exit from Ottawa is fine by me!
 

spilledthebeer

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Regardless of Hoid's piffle, Pipeline contractors have been given 30 days to get equipment and materials in place to resume construction and do all necessary hiring!






Oh DEAR ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Here it is early September......................................


and the LATEST AND GREATEST PIPELINE STALL is just in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



JUST AS I PREDICTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!












Trudeau gets a new pipeline headache — just in time for the federal election.

Here is an article exposing the LIE-beral FAKERY regarding oil pipelines!! With some comments of my own in brackets):

By Matt Gurney National Post

Published: Sept 5, 2019

On Wednesday morning, the worst thing Justin Trudeau had to deal with was getting panned for a less-than-great interview with Hasan Minhaj.

But by day’s end, an aggressive interview by the U.S. comedian was the least of the prime minister’s concerns. Justice David Stratas had seen to that.

Stratas, of the Federal Court of Appeal, has decided to allow six of 12 motions for judicial review of the federal government’s second approval of the bitterly controversial Trans Mountain pipeline expansion. The expansion would triple the pipeline’s capacity, bringing Alberta energy to the B.C. coast for export abroad. This is more than just an economic necessity for Alberta’s economy, a way of getting around the supply constraints that are depressing its oil sector. It is increasingly a national unity issue.

(I say Mr. Gurney is being naive if he thinks this ruling by the judge is a surprise to Our idiot Boy Justin!! I have said all along that Our idiot Boy is simply STALLING on the pipeline till AFTER the election!! If the LIE-berals win - then the pipeline AND the Cdn oil patch will be KILLED OFF - exactly as Our idiot Boy promised- back in 2015!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(Yes - we should recall how Our idiot Boy told us he wanted to make ALL fossil fuels- even natural gas - so costly that we would voluntarily stop using the stuff!!!
But since then the idiot Boy has registered on how many Cdns consider their lives to be DEPENDENT on fossil fuel - for various ESSENTIAL services - so the idiot Boy has chosen to MISS-LEAD US!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(Our idiot Boy does not care if Alberta goers bankrupt as a result of a PURELY POLITICAL CHOICE Not to allow Alberta to sell its most valuable product!!!!!!
And Our idiot Boy is quite prepared to follow the DESTRUCTIVE lead of Wynne-bag Ontari-owe LIE-berals and FORCE Us to stop using natural gas for either heating or cooking- Wynne-bag got caught out making plans to BAN ALL natural gas appliances in the province- so it would be easier to price gouge us on electricity produced by LIE-beral HOG allies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Alberta premier Jason Kenney has warned in blunt terms that his population is fed up with a federation that cannot build essential infrastructure that it has repeatedly signed off on. We should take him at his word.

(LIE-berals bitch that we are reluctant to use public transit “to save the environment” with LIE-berals giving NO THOUGHT to how overloaded and unreliable and SLOW public transit is!! By refusing to build more and better transit - and by their use of the gravy grabbing carbon tax SCAM - LIE-berals have demonstrated an UGLY WILLINGNESS to destroy our lives while ensuring their entitlements keep on flowing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Stratas’s ruling is undeniably a setback to the expansion of Trans Mountain, where construction work had finally been getting underway. But it’s a fascinating ruling — and a close read offers some hope that the setback will be brief. But not brief enough, in all likelihood, to do the Liberals much good.

(LIE-berals recently gave out a call to companies to start gathering employees and equipment- WITHOUT actually having completed “negotiations” - meaning sort out the blackmail by a noisy minority!! The LIE-beral call for preparations was a CYNICAL PLOY deigned to lull observers that some progress might happen!! But with cynics like myself MOCKING the LIE-beral pipeline Fake News !!!!!!!!!!!!)

Appeal court decision brings uncertainty to Trans Mountain pipeline project, experts say
Trans Mountain pipeline faces fresh legal challenges after court allows six appeals to proceed
John Ivison: Trans Mountain approval a high wire act on which Trudeau is staking his future

(LIE-berals bought the Kinder Morgan pipeline to get Yankee owners and investors OUT OF THE WAY - as having angry Yankees robbed of their property while NAFTA was being discussed would have made the NAFTA MESS even worse!!!!!!!!! So LIE -berals SCREWED AROUND looking for ways to quietly kill a project that they also called essential to our economy- and the whole stage managed LIE-beral stall reeks of HYPOCRISY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Stratas has permitted the half-dozen motions only on very narrow grounds and struck down a broad swath of others in their totality. He rejects entirely the notion that the federal government’s purchase of the pipeline puts them in a conflict of interest. “The Governor in Council is not the Government of Canada,” he wrote. “The Governor in Council, the decision-maker here, does not own the project.” Bam. Done.

Stratas also entirely dismisses appeals made on environmental grounds. “The Governor in Council found that compelling public interest considerations clearly outweighed the adverse environmental effects. The decisive and emphatic nature of (that finding) leads inexorably to the conclusion (that) the Governor in Council would still conclude the project is, on balance, in the public interest and would still approve it.” A series of miscellaneous objections, Stratas notes, have already been addressed in the pipeline’s favour and will not be relitigated.

But there are the six motions he allowed, of course. And this is where things start to become awkward for the prime minister.

(Start to become awkward?? That`s a laugh- the idiot Boy has wasted several years just going through the motions - with NO REAL LEGAL progress- and the country is NOW LAUGHING at his pretensions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Stratas allowed the motions on the narrow grounds that it is arguable that mandated requirements for Indigenous consultation still have not been met. Stratas grants that there was additional consultation, notes that Indigenous groups deemed it insufficient, and, critically, notes further that the federal government took no position at all. While Indigenous and First Nations groups filed objections to the new consultation process “consisting of many thousands of detailed pages,” the federal government, “including the Attorney General of Canada representing the Government of Canada, took no position for or against” the motions. “The respondents did state that if leave were granted and applications for judicial review were brought they would support the Governor in Council’s decision and oppose the applicants,” Stratas said. “But on the leave motions they offered no submissions or evidence to assist the Court.”

(The UGLY TRUTH is that there can be NO RESOLUTION with the most radical native groups because they see the pipeline as a handy tool for PERPETUAL BLACKMAIL of the hated white society!! This is not an economic issue- it is a political coup based on racism and designed to cripple “white privilege”!!!!!!!!!!!)

(The LIE-beral crap about First Nations and native sovereignty that were first promoted by Pierre Trudope and his Indian Affairs minister Jean Chretien have finally blown up in LIE-beral faces!! There will be NO Pipeline until LIE-berals and natives can agree on a set of rights and privileges that are agreeable both to the great majority of natives as well as to the white population!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

I’m no lawyer. But it’s hard to read that as anything else than Stratas saying, in an adversarial system, when one side doesn’t show up, the other gets to have their say.

(The sad fact is that letting a small minority of radical natives disrupt NATIONAL policy and blackmail the LIE-beral govt suits the idiot Boy just fine - he sees this mess as a wonderful vote buying exercise!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

So there will be reviews. Stratas has ordered that they be narrowly focused on the specific issue of whether the new consultations were sufficient, and wants the review completed “very quickly,” citing “substantial public interest” in a rapid conclusion. “Very quickly,” of course, is obviously relative — we’re talking about Canadian courts here. But it’s conceivable that the reviews could be wrapped up in a matter of months. Before the end of the year, perhaps.

(I suggest there will be NO RESOLUTION until we have a NEW GOVT!!!!!!!!!!!)

If that’s the case, and the pipeline gets built, Wednesday’s ruling is a bump in an already rocky road. But the matter is not likely to be settled in the next seven weeks. And that means the Liberals are going into the next campaign with this issue once again at top of mind.

What will the Liberal message be for those seven weeks? There has never been a Liberal position on Trans Mountain that’s even remotely coherent. The strongest signal they’ve sent is obviously buying it — but then they don’t bother arguing against its opponents? The Tories are going to spend the next seven weeks raining (hopefully metaphorical) artillery down on the Liberals on this, asking why the government spent billions buying a pipeline they didn’t bother to show up and advocate for in court. And anything the Liberals say will just give the NDP and the Greens an opportunity to remind the left that Trudeau is building an oil pipeline.

(Ah yes- LIE-berals consider that any subject they choose not to discuss will automatically DISAPPEAR and be forgotten!! We are ORDERED NOT to discuss the national consequences of LIE-berals DELIBERATELY bankrupting Alberta in exchange for LIE-beral votes stolen from NDP and Greenies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Pipeline issues were always going to be an issue in this campaign. But now it’s a live issue again. Every party will benefit from this, with the exception of the incumbents. And they seem to have done little to prevent that from happening.

It’s baffling, but it’s what happened. Trans Mountain is front and centre. With the election now just weeks away.

(BAFFLING?? REALLY?? The LIE-beral FIX is in and the stall has been in plain sight for several years now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
 

Hoid

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what are the chances that the same cabinet the OKed the pipeline expansion without having fulfilled the requirements has now fulfilled those requirements?

ZERO

the entire process is corrupt and illogical
 

petros

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At this point I don't give a shit if it gets built or not.

Divert all the contents of the existing line through the Sumas connection to WA and close the batch tank farm in Kamloops.

F-ck 'em.
 

Twin_Moose

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Why did Ottawa fail to defend its Trans Mountain process in court? Blame politics

Evidence 'withheld'
Justice David Stratas wrote that the government and cabinet might have "strong evidence" to support the adequacy of their consultations, and good legal arguments in favour of the court deferring to cabinet's wishes.
"At this time, however, the respondents have withheld their evidence and legal submissions on these points. So the analysis cannot progress further," Stratas wrote.
So the case is heading back to court again — even though the federal cabinet has approved the project. Twice.
At this rate, the money being spent on Trans Mountain lawsuits is flowing more freely than the oil.
Brad Morse, dean of the law faculty at Thompson Rivers University in Kamloops, B.C., said the government's failure to put forward any response in a case like this "is highly unusual."
Politics might be part of the explanation, he said. Prime Minister Trudeau speaks frequently about the importance of the Crown-Indigenous relationship. Making legal arguments against allowing First Nations to pursue appeals — especially on the eve of an election campaign — could be seen as inconsistent with his words.
Indigenous communities not all on the same page......Much much more in the article read it Hoid
 

spilledthebeer

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what are the chances that the same cabinet the OKed the pipeline expansion without having fulfilled the requirements has now fulfilled those requirements?

ZERO

the entire process is corrupt and illogical




Thank you hemerHOID for acknowledging the LIE-beral CORRUPTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But LIE-berals are a LOT OF THINGS......................................


like corrupt................................


ethically challenged........................................



immoral.........................................


fiscally grossly irresponsible..............................................


bigoted against white people.........................................


BUT THEY ARE NOT ILLOGICAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


AS usual hemerHOID you are spewing Fake News!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals KNOW WHAT THEY WANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And THEY HAVE PLANS TO GET IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Being deceitful, deceptive and hypocritical..............................................................


are all NASTY LIE-beral TRAITS..................................................


BUT SUCH QUALITIES ARE NOT ILLOGICAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals HAVE TOLD US THEIR TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals TOLD us they wanted to KILL the entire Cdn oil patch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals TOLD US Kinder Morgan would be built.......................................


AFTER NATIVE PROTESTORS and irrational environmentalists..................................


were satisfied with the construction and operational details!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And LIE-berals told the truth..........................................


UP TO A POINT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


WHAT LIE-berals DID NOT TELL US..........................................


was that the native radicals could never be satisfied..............................................



and that radical environmentalists could never be satisfied.....................................


thus the TRUTH IS....................................


Kinder Morgan IS STALLED...............................................


until we get a new govt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals consider that their Fake News should always have just a little grain of truth in it............................


LIE-berals consider that SELLING A HALF LIE.........................................


is easier than selling a BARE FACED LIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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spilledthebeer

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Crude is up $3 a bbl




Here is a FUN QUESTION for all the LIE-berals out there..........................................


back on August 21- Our idiot Boy Justin warned Kinder Morgan pipeline contractors.............................


to gather equipment and hire people.....................................


because he expected work on the pipeline to resume.............................


in 30 days or less!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


So HOW COME we have not seen.....................................


news media photos of happy oil workers getting back to work????????????????????????


IS IT POSSIBLE..................................................


that Our idiot Boy MISS- LED US????????????????????????????


DELIBERATELY??????????????????????????????????


Is it possible I WAS RIGHT ALL ALONG?????????????????????????


And Our idiot Boy is JUST STALLING?????????????????????????/


Exactly as I predicted!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I dont own a crystal ball and dont have any Gypsy blood......................................


BUT I CAN predict the LIE-beral future..........................................


and it REEKS of HORSESH+T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!