The road map to the global peace

NZDoug

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The democracy that he is shoveling into the sewer will have elections in November 2020 . Can you say the same about Iran ?
Speaking of Iran,
"The fact that the U.S. government (along with some help from the British) overthrew Iran’s democratically elected government in 1953, and backed Saddam Hussein’s attack on Iran in 1980 that resulted in over a million casualties, has vanished down the memory hole.
One of the book’s strong points is its careful unraveling of U.S.-Iranian relations, setting the record straight on things like the development of Iran’s nuclear infrastructure. While the Shah was in power, Washington pushed nuclear power plants on Iran, including nuclear fuel enrichment technology, even though the Americans were aware that it could lead to weapons development. Indeed, that’s exactly how India produced its first nuclear weapon back in 1974.
Erlich also analyzes everything from class structure to Iran’s complex ethnicities and explains how the Islamic Republic functions politically and economically. While he’s a long-time critic of U.S. foreign policy, Erlich is no admirer of Iran’s political institutions. Iran is far more democratic than the absolute monarchies of the Persian Gulf — with which the Washington is closely allied — but it’s hardly a democracy.
“Iran is ruled by a reactionary, dictatorial clique that oppresses its own people,” he writes. “However, that does not make Iran a threat to Americans.” What Tehran does threaten “are the interests of the political, military, and corporate elite who run the United States.” On a number of occasions Iran has made peace overtures to the U.S., all of which have been rejected.
Iran is a country with a very long history, and its people have a strong sense of nationalism, even if much of the population isn’t overly fond of Iran’s top-down political system and clerical interference in everyday life. The idea that the Iranian people will rise up and overthrow their government because of sanctions or in the event of a military attack on the government is, according to Erlich, pure illusion.
The Iran Agenda Today covers a lot of ground without bogging down in an overly detailed accounts of several millennia of history. It certainly provides enough historical context to conclude that an attack on Iran — which would likely also involve Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, and possibly Israel — would unleash regional chaos with international repercussions.
Such a war would be mainly an air war — not even the Trump administration is crazy enough to contemplate a ground invasion of a vast country filled with 80 million people — and would certainly inflict enormous damage.
But to what end?
Iran will never surrender, and its people would rally to the defense of their country. Tehran is also perfectly capable of striking back using unconventional means. Oil prices would spike, and countries that continue to do business with Iran — China, Russia, Turkey, and India for starters — would see their growth rates take a hit. No European country would support such a war.
Of course, creating chaos is what the Trump administration excels at, and in the short run Iran would suffer a grievous wound. But Tehran would weather the blow and Americans would be in yet another forever war, this time with a far more formidable foe than Pashtun tribes in Afghanistan or jihadists in Iraq.
Bolton, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, and Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman may get their war, but war is a deeply uncertain business. As Prussian Field Marshal Helmuth von Moltke, one of the founders of modern warfare, once noted, “No plan survives contact with the enemy.”
Erlich, a Peabody Award winner and the author of five books, has written a timely analysis of U.S. foreign policy vis-à-vis Iran and why, if our country continues on its current path, we — and the world — are headed into a long, dark tunnel.
https://fpif.org/a-vital-primer-on-the-push-for-war-in-iran/
 

spilledthebeer

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Best thing for the world would be to eliminate Muslims. No more Middle East problems.




MURDER IS NEVER A SOLUTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


We can simply refuse to let Muslims immigrate to the west!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And we can arrange that by VOTING LIE-berals OUT OF OFFICE....................


so they cannot mess things up for us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!












Here is a rather harsh but true call to arms for fair minded western citizens-I pulled it off the internet and don’t know who wrote it but it does make an honest point and it has some comments of my own in brackets):

Facing Reality- here & abroad.

Awww... those poor "illegal immigrants"! That's exactly what the Swedes said: C'mon right in, all you filthy, unwashed, and uneducated immigrants... Sweden welcomes you!

Now look what's happened - before these crazies even took a bath, they've turned that once beautiful, prosperous, and peaceful country into a dangerous, chaotic, third-world hell hole and are now demanding that the Swedes bow to their own "Sharia Law" rather than obeying the legitimately enacted laws of their generous & overly gracious hosts!

Remember that the next time someone foolishly tells you how we should be "kind" and allow thousands of these random and unidentified illegal immigrants, many who could easily be dangerous criminals fleeing from justice in the US, to sneak unchallenged into Canada under the cover of darkness in order to flout our immigration laws and leech off our already severely strained health, educational, and social welfare systems.

(But LIE-berals tell us that being generous to these unknown and unidentified refugees is somehow good for Canada? Maybe LIE-berals really mean its GOOD FOR THEM as they get to BUY votes and support. We do know for instance-that Ontari-owe LIE-berals are HATED everywhere outside the Toronto/GTA area. In the last provincial election, LIE-berals would have been destroyed if they only had rural Ontari-owe to call on-it was Toronto that empowered LIE-berals-and it is Toronto that gets TEN TIMES MORE provincial money per citizen than any other Ontari-owe municipality! I call it vote BUYING for a legitimate reason!

Many in power still steadfastly refuse to acknowledge all the problems they're causing for Sweden. That alone says something ominous about the total irresponsibility of our own politicians. It's about time that they pulled their heads out of the sand and started addressing this ever-worsening problem! Despite all the crying of the impotent SJW's, time may yet prove Donald Trump to be one of the greatest and strongest Presidents in the entire history of the USA! After all, you don't even deserve to have a country if you won't stand up to defend your own ideals and borders.

(I point out that in early 2017 there were accusations of wide spread sex assaults and robberies in Sweden and in Germany after the new years celebrations but real numbers are hard to come by as Swedes are like Cdns-they think it is racist to keep crime numbers based on race. It is alleged that LIE-beral minded persons in Swedish govt are keeping a lid on true numbers and real racial problems by discouraging cops from keeping score of who does what and gets charged for it.)

Although mug shots of persons arrested and charged would make a distinction between blond, blue eyed Swedes and the Muslim refugees that are alleged to be behind the crime spree. Swedish leaders have vowed to sort out the truth but there has been only silence as the year progresses and one must wonder if the LIE-beral `fix` is in?)

http://www.friatider.se/riots-and-looting-notorios-stockholm-suburb
 

AnnaEmber

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Really , you look at the poorest states in the union , yet the sitituation in all those states has improved . Then you talk about some arms deal with Iran , give your head a shake , Iran doesn’t deal .
What situation has improved? They're still poor and some are still backwards and regressive.
You shake yours. Obama gave Iran back its money and Iran calmed down and delayed building nukes. Trump comes along and Iran probably goes back to building them. Trump cuddles up to jerks like Kim, Putin, and the Salmans. And if you think the Salmans are good people, you need to get a grip on reality. They'd smile at your face while having a crony stab you in the back, as would Kim. Putin would just shiv you any way he could.
 

AnnaEmber

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The democracy that he is shoveling into the sewer will have elections in November 2020 . Can you say the same about Iran ?
I don't care what Iran does as long as it keeps to itself and leaves its people to do their thing.
And democracy in the USA, isn't. Where was democracy when McConnell et al coerced the EC? They'll do it again, Trump will stay put and USA will slide further into the sewer.
Meanwhile China will have a really good start on its empire and Putin will have a good start on becoming at least as powerful as the USA and will get even closer ties with China.
 

pgs

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MURDER IS NEVER A SOLUTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


We can simply refuse to let Muslims immigrate to the west!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And we can arrange that by VOTING LIE-berals OUT OF OFFICE....................


so they cannot mess things up for us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!












Here is a rather harsh but true call to arms for fair minded western citizens-I pulled it off the internet and don’t know who wrote it but it does make an honest point and it has some comments of my own in brackets):

Facing Reality- here & abroad.

Awww... those poor "illegal immigrants"! That's exactly what the Swedes said: C'mon right in, all you filthy, unwashed, and uneducated immigrants... Sweden welcomes you!

Now look what's happened - before these crazies even took a bath, they've turned that once beautiful, prosperous, and peaceful country into a dangerous, chaotic, third-world hell hole and are now demanding that the Swedes bow to their own "Sharia Law" rather than obeying the legitimately enacted laws of their generous & overly gracious hosts!

Remember that the next time someone foolishly tells you how we should be "kind" and allow thousands of these random and unidentified illegal immigrants, many who could easily be dangerous criminals fleeing from justice in the US, to sneak unchallenged into Canada under the cover of darkness in order to flout our immigration laws and leech off our already severely strained health, educational, and social welfare systems.

(But LIE-berals tell us that being generous to these unknown and unidentified refugees is somehow good for Canada? Maybe LIE-berals really mean its GOOD FOR THEM as they get to BUY votes and support. We do know for instance-that Ontari-owe LIE-berals are HATED everywhere outside the Toronto/GTA area. In the last provincial election, LIE-berals would have been destroyed if they only had rural Ontari-owe to call on-it was Toronto that empowered LIE-berals-and it is Toronto that gets TEN TIMES MORE provincial money per citizen than any other Ontari-owe municipality! I call it vote BUYING for a legitimate reason!

Many in power still steadfastly refuse to acknowledge all the problems they're causing for Sweden. That alone says something ominous about the total irresponsibility of our own politicians. It's about time that they pulled their heads out of the sand and started addressing this ever-worsening problem! Despite all the crying of the impotent SJW's, time may yet prove Donald Trump to be one of the greatest and strongest Presidents in the entire history of the USA! After all, you don't even deserve to have a country if you won't stand up to defend your own ideals and borders.

(I point out that in early 2017 there were accusations of wide spread sex assaults and robberies in Sweden and in Germany after the new years celebrations but real numbers are hard to come by as Swedes are like Cdns-they think it is racist to keep crime numbers based on race. It is alleged that LIE-beral minded persons in Swedish govt are keeping a lid on true numbers and real racial problems by discouraging cops from keeping score of who does what and gets charged for it.)

Although mug shots of persons arrested and charged would make a distinction between blond, blue eyed Swedes and the Muslim refugees that are alleged to be behind the crime spree. Swedish leaders have vowed to sort out the truth but there has been only silence as the year progresses and one must wonder if the LIE-beral `fix` is in?)

http://www.friatider.se/riots-and-looting-notorios-stockholm-suburb
Of course our political leaders won’t admit there is a problem , to do so would admit they made a mistake .
 

pgs

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What situation has improved? They're still poor and some are still backwards and regressive.
You shake yours. Obama gave Iran back its money and Iran calmed down and delayed building nukes. Trump comes along and Iran probably goes back to building them. Trump cuddles up to jerks like Kim, Putin, and the Salmans. And if you think the Salmans are good people, you need to get a grip on reality. They'd smile at your face while having a crony stab you in the back, as would Kim. Putin would just shiv you any way he could.
Let me lend you a pair of rose coloured glasses.
 

spilledthebeer

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lol Trump is on the extreme end of protectionism, nearly isolationism. Some presidents realized that with stable internal affairs it was fairly easy to focus on external affairs, but Trump focuses only on whatever he feels will make him look good when he's done. So he ignores education, health, most of the citizenry, etc. and focuses on tearing apart Obama's crap, taking credit for the economy, his dumbass wall, and benefiting the wealthy who don't really need help.






POOR PATHETIC Ember................................


her dim bulb brain has BURNED OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11


She DOES NOT UNDERSTAND that "protectionism" ........................................................


is about hoarding resources for yourself!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


While the Trump 'trade war"........................................


is about limiting the ability of ENEMIES...................................


to PROFIT off the Yankee economy.............................................


sufficiently that the enemies HAVE THE RESOURCES.....................................


to HARM YANKEES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And HARM YANKEE ALLIES..................................


such as Canada!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Walter

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I don't care what Iran does as long as it keeps to itself and leaves its people to do their thing.
And democracy in the USA, isn't. Where was democracy when McConnell et al coerced the EC? They'll do it again, Trump will stay put and USA will slide further into the sewer.
Meanwhile China will have a really good start on its empire and Putin will have a good start on becoming at least as powerful as the USA and will get even closer ties with China.
Iran Breaches the Nuclear Deal and UN Resolutions for Third Time
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/iran-breached-the-nuclear_b_9977768

Iran never intended to comply with the accord, they just knew BHO and Kerry were suckers and would give them billions.
 
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spilledthebeer

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Iran Breaches the Nuclear Deal and UN Resolutions for Third Time
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/iran-breached-the-nuclear_b_9977768

Iran never intended to comply with the accord, they just knew BHO and Kerry were suckers and would give them billions.








TRUE DAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And Iran has just offended the entire planet.....................................


by attacking the Saudi oil wells!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Consider the amount of pollution being released.............................................


by oil fires SO LARGE they can be easily seen from outer space!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The amount of pollution and particulate matter....................


released by an out of control wild fire...........................


is FAR GREATER.................................


than what would be released by burning the oil in cars!!!!!!!!!!



And consider that Iran is CONTINUING its efforts...............................


to sponsor rebels trying to over throw the Yemen govt..........................


in the usual Sunni / Shia Muslim HATE FEST.............................


with Iran and Saudia Arabia on opposite sides...........................


and with Iran pursuing its attempt to build nuclear weapons..............................


to take out Israel....................................................


and maybe Saudi Arabia as well!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And just maybe Iran will SELL some Nuclear weapons to terrorists.............................


who want to strike at the West!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Trump is RIGHT to oppose these clowns!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

spilledthebeer

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Iran Breaches the Nuclear Deal and UN Resolutions for Third Time
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/iran-breached-the-nuclear_b_9977768

Iran never intended to comply with the accord, they just knew BHO and Kerry were suckers and would give them billions.


TRUE DAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Obama dealt just as forcefully with Iran.........................


as British PM Neville Chamberlain did with Adolf Hitler over that Sudetenland Czech problem in 1938!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


PEACE IN OUR TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


HURRAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Ron in Regina

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Sunni and Shea will not conflict, because the Mahdi will abolish all sects and religions as it is told by some hadiths and traditions, and as it is pointed out in the Quran.

Why hasn't this happened already? What outside force or group will this not happening already be blamed on? Does this make the Shea Infidels?

I asked Abu Abd-Allah about this, he said: 'the erring sects .. the sects of misguidance, error and falsehood'. He meant the Shea may be more in falsehood and error.

So I'm assuming that you are not Shea, and that to attain 'peace & harmony' it's the Shea sects that will have to change being assimilated or eliminated then? They aren't what you believe so they must be the ones that are incorrect and must adopt your beliefs in the road map to peace? Correct?