You Two are confusing Parliament with the senate, MP's will still represent by population, Senators by Provinces and regions to ensure Regional interests across the nation are well represented.
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You Two are confusing Parliament with the senate, MP's will still represent by population, Senators by Provinces and regions to ensure Regional interests across the nation are well represented.
Bwahahaha you were saying?
You almost stumble on to the idea here
Not exactly mirroring but along the same lines
There is an argument to be had....................................
to suggest having a Senate......................................
has some value.....................................
because of course the Senate is SUPPOSED to be a political body offering..............................
sober, serious second thought to legislation......................................
the Cdn Senate has UNFORTUNATELY DEVOLVED............................................
into a COSTLY CLUB...........................................
for aging political HACKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Senate is BADLY IN NEED...........................................
of SERIOUS REVISIONS to its budget and spending allowance!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Having an elected Senate WOULD NOT.............................
STRENGTHEN our democracy.........................
since whichever party was in power would AUTOMATICALLY
control the Senate as well!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The existing setup has worked well enough......................
though the fiscal cost is out of line with reality!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE ONLY PEOPLE who want to make....................
MAJOR CHANGES to our political system....................
ARE LIE-berals looking for ways........................
to GAME THE SYSTEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FOR PERSONAL PROFIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It would automatically be diverse by the election process STB, even if each region votes along their party lines, assures a mix in the senate, along with the region's uniqueness in character.
Some people can't seem to understand that a less populated province get almost no representation...
An equal number of senator in each province levels the playing field.....
The way it is 72% of the population live below the 49th parallel
An equal number of senator in each province levels the playing field.....
The way it is 72% of the population live below the 49th parallel
LIE-berals consider it IMPERATIVE.....................................
that they be allowed to GAME the system.................................
otherwise they WILL NOT BE ABLE.....................................
to implement their social justice warrior/Soviet dictator policies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And some people dont seem to UNDERSTAND the concept.......................................
OF ONE PERSON= ONE VOTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Any electoral system that DEVIATES from that..............................................
is Soviet style DICTATORSHIP............................................
of the sort we see in RED CHINA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And YOU DO RECALL...........................................
that Our idiot Boy TOLD US that "he likes the basic Chinese democracy"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And Our idiot Boy told us "he likes the way the Chinese get things done"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And papa Pierre Trudeau told us of "the genius of Chinese Chairman Mao in rushing 30 million Chinese to the gallows"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Therefore support for LIE-beral sponsored electoral reform IS SUPPORT FOR PEOPLE WHO APPLAUD MASS MURDER BY THE
VICIOUS SOVIET DICTATORSHIP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
None of us are arguing against the idea STB, some of us are supporting the idea of an elected senate as well, along similar lines of the US senate.
But not one like the States has. No-one should be able to stack the Senate, judiciary, or anything in their favour.
Sorry........................that is nonsense!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If the election of Senators was run at the same time as election of MP`s..................................
there is every reason to assume the Senate would reflect the same public support....................................
as House of Commons!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you set it up so that each election of Senate and House of Commons were separated by a couple of years...............................
then you end up with the situation we have now.............................................
with an imbalance of support and party members!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Recall Harper trying to get legislation passed in a Senate dominated by LIE-berals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It was not till Harper gave in and appointed some Conservative Senators...........................
that he made progress!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And recall that it was Harper Conservatives who tried to rein in free spending Senators...............................
while LIE-berals OBSTRUCTED at every turn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now consider that an Andrew Scheer Conservative govt will have the same trouble Harper did with the Senate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE ONLY WAY......................................
to give our Cdn Senate MORE POWER....................................
is to TAKE POWER AWAY.....................................
from the House of Commons!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There is NO GOOD REASON..........................................
that an UN-ELECTED Senator..........................................................
should have power equal or even close to that of an ELECTED MP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
UNLESS you like opening the door to DICTATORSHIP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AS I just posted to AnnaEmber..............................................
THE ONLY WAY TO GIVE OUR SENATE MORE POWER.............................................
IS TO TAKE POWER AWAY FROM OUR MP`s!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It is PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE....................................
FOR EVERYBODY TO WIN ALL THE TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Either we have deficits.....................................OR NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Either we have LIE-beral RULE ..........................OR NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Either the HOuse of Commons is the seat of Cdn power....................OR NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And as I have pointed out on various occasions............................
electoral reform and proportional representation ARE GOVT KILLERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I point to the CHAOS in Italy as PROOF.........................................
and I point to New Zealand which tried proportional representation...................................
an went BACK to our first past the post method!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It aint perfect............................................
BUT IT IS THE BEST AVAILABLE.................................................
and has the virtue of being the system that LIE-berals find it HARDEST TO GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Considering the MESS that is LAVALIN................................
WHAT JUDGEMENT WOULD A couple of Quebec Senators have to say about criminal charges for Lavalin?????????????????
When you DILUTE THE POWER ...........................................
YOU ALSO DILUTE PERSONAL ACCOUNTABILITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AND THAT is what LIE-berals WANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They want all the power and all the gravy....................................
AND NO BLAME when we hit the debt wall........................................
and discover we are BANKRUPT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We do that here in Canada now all appointed, at least there they have to be voted in by the citizens or by the Senate in the case of SCOTUS
No more power needed in the senate just elect in the Senators, not appointees, to give us a little more representation