As long as Britain leaves the EU, I don't give a flying frig.
Once Britain leaves, other countries will follow suit. Italy is next, is my reckoning. Followed then by Greece.
The EU is f&cked.
UK Gov In Turmoil & Bexit Mess.
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As long as Britain leaves the EU, I don't give a flying frig.
Once Britain leaves, other countries will follow suit. Italy is next, is my reckoning. Followed then by Greece.
The EU is f&cked.
"Forgive him, Theodosius, for he is a barbarian, and believes that the customs of his tribe and island are the laws of nature."
-- Shaw, Caesar and Cleopatra
Oh, yeah, definitely.
I should point out to Mr Theodosius, however, that the vast majority of Britain's laws are created, and foisted upon us, by the EU. And many of the said laws I wholeheartedly disagree with (nice try, though, Mr T, but you'll have to come up with something more special to beat ME)
The EU is an anti-American organisation.
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How? Not only is Canning the shortest-serving PM but Parliament has voted against Boris's offer of a snap election.
So not only has Churchill's grandson been sacked by Boris for his treacherous Remainer activities, but now Wellington's descendant, the Duke of Wellington, has resigned from the Tories because of Brexit and Boris.
What will great British war heroes and former PMs Churchill and Wellington think of their weak, pussy, ancestors wanting to surrender Great Britain to foreign rule?
Yes, Nicholas and Arthur. You've done your great ancestors proud...
What will great British war heroes and former PMs Churchill and Wellington think of their weak, pussy, ancestors wanting to surrender Great Britain to foreign rule?
Yes, Nicholas and Arthur. You've done your great ancestors proud...
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U.K. Parliament again rejects Boris Johnson’s call for an early election, narrowing the besieged prime minister’s options
https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...c=al_news__alert-world--alert-national&wpmk=1
Well we know he'll still be PM - Parliament may not like him and not want him to be PM but it still wants him to be PM, remember (sounds weird, but it's true).
Parliament is saying it will bring out a law to make No Deal illegal - even though Parliament made it legal (sounds weird, but it's true).
But there are two spanners in the works for this weird, contradictory, Remainer Parliament: France and Boris.
France has said it will veto an extension to Article 50, meaning a No Deal Brexit on Halloween, and Boris has said he will just ignore that law making No Deal illegal, meaning a No Deal Brexit on Halloween.
So what are the Remainer going to do now?
They have, shockingly, threatened to send Boris to jail if he did such a thing, but they are bluffing: they know the outrage that would be caused around the country if they sent the PM to prison for honouring a democratic vote. There be bloodshed and carnage. He'd be a martyr to the Brexit cause.
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He is behaving in a tRumpian way.........where the law is concerned & recognized only as it suits him.
That can only render cracks in the civility that still exits.
Don't think that BOJO is as mentally disordered as Trump is........but he is very over bearing, aggressive and single minded. He can be off putting. They are NOT "strength ......and not the kind of qualities needed in effective leaders.
Don't watch much of the Brit parliament, do you? They put a lot of governing houses to shame when it comes to interesting and neat ways to tell each other off.
Frankly, I kind'a like it.
All that said, I actually agree with BoJo - stop extending the deadline, get Brexit over with.
Good should we join a union with the Americans , letting them hold all the cards of course ?
Harriet Harman has confirmed she will run to become the next Commons Speaker.
The Labour MP and Mother of the House - the longest continuously-serving female MP - made the announcement after the current Speaker, John Bercow, said he would stand down by 31 October.
Ms Harman told BBC Radio 4's Today programme it was the Speaker's job "to ensure Parliament can have its say".
Other MPs intending to stand include Tory Sir Edward Leigh, Labour's Chris Bryant and the SNP's Pete Wishart.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-politics-49646257
The Labour MP and Mother of the House - the longest continuously-serving female MP - made the announcement after the current Speaker, John Bercow, said he would stand down by 31 October.
Ms Harman told BBC Radio 4's Today programme it was the Speaker's job "to ensure Parliament can have its say".
Other MPs intending to stand include Tory Sir Edward Leigh, Labour's Chris Bryant and the SNP's Pete Wishart.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-politics-49646257
Bollocks to Bercow
Good riddance to the anti-democratic speaker.
NOEL YAXLEY
10th September 2019
Spiked
If there is any potential for celebration during the current constitutional nightmare, it is the news that John Bercow is stepping down as speaker of the House of Commons.
Bercow made the announcement yesterday in his typically bombastic style during the last parliamentary session before the summer conference season begins. Rather than make use of the precious little time to debate or get on with Brexit – the thing we have been tearing our hair out to get done for the past three-and-a-half years – MPs turned the Commons into a Bercow love-in.
For a solid hour-and-a-half, a nauseating and sycophantic gushing emanated from the opposition benches. Jeremy Corbyn led the adoration. ‘Democracy is stronger for your being the speaker’, said the Labour leader, before calling Bercow ‘superb’.
Of course, Bercow’s real role in parliament has not been to strengthen democracy but to weaken it. Time and again, he has stood in the way of Brexit. By deciding when and when not to follow parliamentary precedent, he has done everything in his gift to thwart the will of the 17.4million people who voted to leave the EU.
In March, he cited an archaic 400-year-old rule to block a third reading of Theresa May’s Withdrawal Agreement. He went well beyond his capacity as speaker effectively to force May to return to the EU and push for an extension to the Article 50 process.
He also facilitated last week’s chaos by allowing MPs to seize control of the parliamentary timetable using Standing Order 24. This effectively gave control to Remainer MPs who relished the opportunity to remove No Deal from the negotiating table.
The speaker of the house is supposed to be impartial but Bercow is no such thing. He has admitted to voting Remain in the 2016 EU referendum. His Brussels-based bias is constantly on show – most ostentatiously on his family car, which was photographed emblazoned with a ‘Bollocks to Brexit’ sticker (though he claims it belonged to his wife).
Bercow embodies the anti-democratic establishment class. Because of him and his Remainer allies, the public is extremely frustrated and increasingly angry. His sheer arrogance and contempt for Brexiteers has helped to sharpen the divide between the people and parliament. He has complained that Johnson’s decision to prorogue parliament was ‘an offence against the democratic process’, but he has spent the past three years undermining the largest vote in UK history. One government source put it bluntly: ‘Bercow thinks he’ll walk away as a hero, when most people in the country don’t know who he is and those that do think he’s a nauseating wanker.’
We must hope the next speaker will respect not just parliamentarians but also the people – the source of parliament’s authority. But with the current crop of MPs, we could very well see more of the same.
https://www.spiked-online.com/2019/09/10/bollocks-to-bercow/
Good riddance to the anti-democratic speaker.
NOEL YAXLEY
10th September 2019
Spiked
If there is any potential for celebration during the current constitutional nightmare, it is the news that John Bercow is stepping down as speaker of the House of Commons.
Bercow made the announcement yesterday in his typically bombastic style during the last parliamentary session before the summer conference season begins. Rather than make use of the precious little time to debate or get on with Brexit – the thing we have been tearing our hair out to get done for the past three-and-a-half years – MPs turned the Commons into a Bercow love-in.
For a solid hour-and-a-half, a nauseating and sycophantic gushing emanated from the opposition benches. Jeremy Corbyn led the adoration. ‘Democracy is stronger for your being the speaker’, said the Labour leader, before calling Bercow ‘superb’.
Of course, Bercow’s real role in parliament has not been to strengthen democracy but to weaken it. Time and again, he has stood in the way of Brexit. By deciding when and when not to follow parliamentary precedent, he has done everything in his gift to thwart the will of the 17.4million people who voted to leave the EU.
In March, he cited an archaic 400-year-old rule to block a third reading of Theresa May’s Withdrawal Agreement. He went well beyond his capacity as speaker effectively to force May to return to the EU and push for an extension to the Article 50 process.
He also facilitated last week’s chaos by allowing MPs to seize control of the parliamentary timetable using Standing Order 24. This effectively gave control to Remainer MPs who relished the opportunity to remove No Deal from the negotiating table.
The speaker of the house is supposed to be impartial but Bercow is no such thing. He has admitted to voting Remain in the 2016 EU referendum. His Brussels-based bias is constantly on show – most ostentatiously on his family car, which was photographed emblazoned with a ‘Bollocks to Brexit’ sticker (though he claims it belonged to his wife).
Bercow embodies the anti-democratic establishment class. Because of him and his Remainer allies, the public is extremely frustrated and increasingly angry. His sheer arrogance and contempt for Brexiteers has helped to sharpen the divide between the people and parliament. He has complained that Johnson’s decision to prorogue parliament was ‘an offence against the democratic process’, but he has spent the past three years undermining the largest vote in UK history. One government source put it bluntly: ‘Bercow thinks he’ll walk away as a hero, when most people in the country don’t know who he is and those that do think he’s a nauseating wanker.’
We must hope the next speaker will respect not just parliamentarians but also the people – the source of parliament’s authority. But with the current crop of MPs, we could very well see more of the same.
https://www.spiked-online.com/2019/09/10/bollocks-to-bercow/
Course it's a crisis. The sort of constitutional crisis which carried on and got worse over many years in the early 17th Century - and we know what ended up happening back then.
But who do you think is to blame for this crisis? Who do YOU think the bad guys are?
Seems that it started with that referendum..........and went downhill from there. Everyone from that moment has mishandled it. There were no clear objectives a......let alone a plan of action. There were a lot of assumptions about how simple it was going to be.........with very little examination of how complicated the departure would be....Now it is out of control and BoJo is not the personality type to handle a crisis.;.............as he is prone to crate them.