ABEXIT - is it time for Alberta to think about leaving Canada?

Curious Cdn

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The author hasn't been paying attention. Scheer's home base of SK is Hell bent on Equalization Reform.
Bring it up now and it's a grand baton for Quebec and Hontario.
Hang the Separatist traitors in a long, neat row.
 

spilledthebeer

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So...............................................


you are willing to AGREE.........................................................


that McLean`s IS ON BOARD with that.....................................


six hundred million dollar LIE-beral slush fund....................................


that Our idiot Boy set up using OUR TAX MONEY.........................................


to BUY GOOD PRESS from Cdn news media..............................................


that "LIE-berals trust"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


In other news................................


the LIE-beral pipeline STALL has been FULLY EXPOSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Consider:::::


Trudeau gets a new pipeline headache — just in time for the federal election.

Here is an article exposing the LIE-beral FAKERY regarding oil pipelines!! With some comments of my own in brackets):

By Matt Gurney National Post

Published: Sept 5, 2019

On Wednesday morning, the worst thing Justin Trudeau had to deal with was getting panned for a less-than-great interview with Hasan Minhaj.

But by day’s end, an aggressive interview by the U.S. comedian was the least of the prime minister’s concerns. Justice David Stratas had seen to that.

Stratas, of the Federal Court of Appeal, has decided to allow six of 12 motions for judicial review of the federal government’s second approval of the bitterly controversial Trans Mountain pipeline expansion. The expansion would triple the pipeline’s capacity, bringing Alberta energy to the B.C. coast for export abroad. This is more than just an economic necessity for Alberta’s economy, a way of getting around the supply constraints that are depressing its oil sector. It is increasingly a national unity issue.

(I say Mr. Gurney is being naive if he thinks this ruling by the judge is a surprise to Our idiot Boy Justin!! I have said all along that Our idiot Boy is simply STALLING on the pipeline till AFTER the election!! If the LIE-berals win - then the pipeline AND the Cdn oil patch will be KILLED OFF - exactly as Our idiot Boy promised- back in 2015!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(Yes - we should recall how Our idiot Boy told us he wanted to make ALL fossil fuels- even natural gas - so costly that we would voluntarily stop using the stuff!!!
But since then the idiot Boy has registered on how many Cdns consider their lives to be DEPENDENT on fossil fuel - for various ESSENTIAL services - so the idiot Boy has chosen to MISS-LEAD US!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(Our idiot Boy does not care if Alberta goers bankrupt as a result of a PURELY POLITICAL CHOICE Not to allow Alberta to sell its most valuable product!!!!!!
And Our idiot Boy is quite prepared to follow the DESTRUCTIVE lead of Wynne-bag Ontari-owe LIE-berals and FORCE Us to stop using natural gas for either heating or cooking- Wynne-bag got caught out making plans to BAN ALL natural gas appliances in the province- so it would be easier to price gouge us on electricity produced by LIE-beral HOG allies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Alberta premier Jason Kenney has warned in blunt terms that his population is fed up with a federation that cannot build essential infrastructure that it has repeatedly signed off on. We should take him at his word.

(LIE-berals bitch that we are reluctant to use public transit “to save the environment” with LIE-berals giving NO THOUGHT to how overloaded and unreliable and SLOW public transit is!! By refusing to build more and better transit - and by their use of the gravy grabbing carbon tax SCAM - LIE-berals have demonstrated an UGLY WILLINGNESS to destroy our lives while ensuring their entitlements keep on flowing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Stratas’s ruling is undeniably a setback to the expansion of Trans Mountain, where construction work had finally been getting underway. But it’s a fascinating ruling — and a close read offers some hope that the setback will be brief. But not brief enough, in all likelihood, to do the Liberals much good.

(LIE-berals recently gave out a call to companies to start gathering employees and equipment- WITHOUT actually having completed “negotiations” - meaning sort out the blackmail by a noisy minority!! The LIE-beral call for preparations was a CYNICAL PLOY deigned to lull observers that some progress might happen!! But with cynics like myself MOCKING the LIE-beral pipeline Fake News !!!!!!!!!!!!)

Appeal court decision brings uncertainty to Trans Mountain pipeline project, experts say
Trans Mountain pipeline faces fresh legal challenges after court allows six appeals to proceed
John Ivison: Trans Mountain approval a high wire act on which Trudeau is staking his future

(LIE-berals bought the Kinder Morgan pipeline to get Yankee owners and investors OUT OF THE WAY - as having angry Yankees robbed of their property while NAFTA was being discussed would have made the NAFTA MESS even worse!!!!!!!!! So LIE -berals SCREWED AROUND looking for ways to quietly kill a project that they also called essential to our economy- and the whole stage managed LIE-beral stall reeks of HYPOCRISY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Stratas has permitted the half-dozen motions only on very narrow grounds and struck down a broad swath of others in their totality. He rejects entirely the notion that the federal government’s purchase of the pipeline puts them in a conflict of interest. “The Governor in Council is not the Government of Canada,” he wrote. “The Governor in Council, the decision-maker here, does not own the project.” Bam. Done.

Stratas also entirely dismisses appeals made on environmental grounds. “The Governor in Council found that compelling public interest considerations clearly outweighed the adverse environmental effects. The decisive and emphatic nature of (that finding) leads inexorably to the conclusion (that) the Governor in Council would still conclude the project is, on balance, in the public interest and would still approve it.” A series of miscellaneous objections, Stratas notes, have already been addressed in the pipeline’s favour and will not be relitigated.

But there are the six motions he allowed, of course. And this is where things start to become awkward for the prime minister.

(Start to become awkward?? That`s a laugh- the idiot Boy has wasted several years just going through the motions - with NO REAL LEGAL progress- and the country is NOW LAUGHING at his pretensions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Stratas allowed the motions on the narrow grounds that it is arguable that mandated requirements for Indigenous consultation still have not been met. Stratas grants that there was additional consultation, notes that Indigenous groups deemed it insufficient, and, critically, notes further that the federal government took no position at all. While Indigenous and First Nations groups filed objections to the new consultation process “consisting of many thousands of detailed pages,” the federal government, “including the Attorney General of Canada representing the Government of Canada, took no position for or against” the motions. “The respondents did state that if leave were granted and applications for judicial review were brought they would support the Governor in Council’s decision and oppose the applicants,” Stratas said. “But on the leave motions they offered no submissions or evidence to assist the Court.”

(The UGLY TRUTH is that there can be NO RESOLUTION with the most radical native groups because they see the pipeline as a handy tool for PERPETUAL BLACKMAIL of the hated white society!! This is not an economic issue- it is a political coup based on racism and designed to cripple “white privilege”!!!!!!!!!!!)

(The LIE-beral crap about First Nations and native sovereignty that were first promoted by Pierre Trudope and his Indian Affairs minister Jean Chretien have finally blown up in LIE-beral faces!! There will be NO Pipeline until LIE-berals and natives can agree on a set of rights and privileges that are agreeable both to the great majority of natives as well as to the white population!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

I’m no lawyer. But it’s hard to read that as anything else than Stratas saying, in an adversarial system, when one side doesn’t show up, the other gets to have their say.

(The sad fact is that letting a small minority of radical natives disrupt NATIONAL policy and blackmail the LIE-beral govt suits the idiot Boy just fine - he sees this mess as a wonderful vote buying exercise!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

So there will be reviews. Stratas has ordered that they be narrowly focused on the specific issue of whether the new consultations were sufficient, and wants the review completed “very quickly,” citing “substantial public interest” in a rapid conclusion. “Very quickly,” of course, is obviously relative — we’re talking about Canadian courts here. But it’s conceivable that the reviews could be wrapped up in a matter of months. Before the end of the year, perhaps.

(I suggest there will be NO RESOLUTION until we have a NEW GOVT!!!!!!!!!!!)

If that’s the case, and the pipeline gets built, Wednesday’s ruling is a bump in an already rocky road. But the matter is not likely to be settled in the next seven weeks. And that means the Liberals are going into the next campaign with this issue once again at top of mind.

What will the Liberal message be for those seven weeks? There has never been a Liberal position on Trans Mountain that’s even remotely coherent. The strongest signal they’ve sent is obviously buying it — but then they don’t bother arguing against its opponents? The Tories are going to spend the next seven weeks raining (hopefully metaphorical) artillery down on the Liberals on this, asking why the government spent billions buying a pipeline they didn’t bother to show up and advocate for in court. And anything the Liberals say will just give the NDP and the Greens an opportunity to remind the left that Trudeau is building an oil pipeline.

(Ah yes- LIE-berals consider that any subject they choose not to discuss will automatically DISAPPEAR and be forgotten!! We are ORDERED NOT to discuss the national consequences of LIE-berals DELIBERATELY bankrupting Alberta in exchange for LIE-beral votes stolen from NDP and Greenies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Pipeline issues were always going to be an issue in this campaign. But now it’s a live issue again. Every party will benefit from this, with the exception of the incumbents. And they seem to have done little to prevent that from happening.

It’s baffling, but it’s what happened. Trans Mountain is front and centre. With the election now just weeks away.

(BAFFLING?? REALLY?? The LIE-beral FIX is in and the stall has been in plain sight for several years now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
 

Cliffy

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MHz

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So you are saying "NI" here numbskull!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ruperts Land WAS PART OF THE HBC Charter..................................

SPECIFYING "lands whose waters drain into Hudsons Bay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

As for the Northwest Company..................................

IT WAS NEVER A SUBSIDIARY OF HBC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AS I have mentioned before - writer Peter C. Newman has written an excellent biography of the history of HBC...................................

and Newman makes it VERY CLEAR that there was MURDEROUS COMPETITION BETWEEN HBC and Nor`westers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Newman documents a wide assortment of murders and LYNCHINGS and various violent attacks and sieges!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

After many decades of vicious fighting.....................................................

HBC and North West Company MADE PEACE and joined forces !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Shortly after that Ottawa bought out the HBC charter...........

and "Ruperts Land" became CDN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
When you get 2 competing forces and there is a long battle and there is no clear winner then you have witnesses a 'false flag' event that is mean to collect funds from the peasants at home from a lot of their wealth. The Royals had lots of ways to fleece the sheep and the Bankers have lots of ways to fleece the Royals.
The war on 'Pirates of the Caribbean' saw how much money collected by all the European Royals?
The 'war on drugs' has netted how much from the public and the drug dealers are bigger than ever.
The 'Cold War' netted $5T for the bankers @ interest in a war where not one shot was ever fired.

How long does the list have to be before the option is put on the table for all big expensive things that involve some sort of 'boogie-man'?

The snipers on both sides would have killed a lot of women and kids before they were caught and killed and became a causality in a war between whites in 'hostile territory'. In your world the facts read like they are fiction.
Test question. I can pinpoint a battle between whites in South Africa that set a record that still stands today. I would call it an ambush of black recruits where both sides planed the operation that saw a lot of men killed in a battle that defies logic when it's events are examined, and they are in all the glory detail because the supposed victims were whites from two different parts of Old Europe.

Anyone want to take up finer details of that battle???

Quebec and Ontario are at odds with each other, yet, by accident, more than 90% of Canada's wealth passes between their fingers when they are beholden to Europe more than they are another other part of Canada. In reality it is an act of treason, in their warped world it is 'being smarter than the stupid sheeple that need to be fleeced often, . . . for their own good.

Taxpayers are one small step above an Indian in a remote village. A society is judged on how well the poorest are doing, rather than how few the wealthy can number. (and how high the poor)

SNC was partly owned by the Quebec Government Pension thingy. Shares are there to make money when the profits are divided and in this case it is an investment by the Government rather than by the taxpayers who are the supposed owners of the fund. When SNC was found guilty of bribery that was a death sentence as far as ever being involved in any more big construction contracts anywhere on the globe including Canada as no bank would fund the project.

If they want to 'run Canada' why not remove yourself from the voting process. If you act as the head and the arm you are a 'dictatorship' and the ones under your control suffer rather than they thrive.
 
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MHz

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Alberta Will Leave Canada

Why not take everything east of Ontario and north of James Bay? To just take ourselves would be like being bigger bandits than the east already is. We could have an instant army by offering sanctuary to former thugs that failed in their various coup missions for NATO.
We have food and the winter is all the ammo we need. What we need are goods that don't fall apart days after the warranty is over.
The port is just below the Alaska panhandle and the destination is Ft Churchill. How long should that take you with a c-train and on-the fly refueling. Wheels/tracks on tractors pulling loads that 'hover'. No flats on a tractor with 6-8 modular tracks (100,000 mi per track)
With the swamp being as vast as it is the 'hover trailer' could get an engine or two from a B-52 and once you are 'at speed' you can probably choose your own path to wherever.

Lop off lower BC and the same with the Prairies and the east would see the rest leaving as a blessing.
 

captain morgan

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Define traitor. One mans traitor is another mans freedomfighter. From a western perspective trudOWE and by extention anyone that supports him is a traitor. Remember the Boston tea party?


CC has his panties all in a bunch because he's jealous that Western Canada has the chance to move up and he's stuck in that Eastern quagmire.